Atlanta Hawks at Warriors: The new guys, plus Rick Sund

San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .

  • L.D. said Teague will start again tonight along with J.J., Marvin, Josh and Al. Hinrich will play, too. Hinrich and Armstrong met the team here last night. Drew said they put some tape down in the ballroom at the hotel and gave the players a crash course on the team’s concepts.
  • Drew expects Hinrich and Teague to push the Hawks to play faster: “We definitely have got to get the ball in to both guys’ hands. I thought Jeff did a good job in Phoenix of keeping the pressure on the defense and pushing it. Kirk has the same ability. He’s not as fast as Jeff but he still pushes the ball at a pace that forces other guys to keep up.”
  • Based on his initial impressions of Atlanta’s offense, Hinrich likes what he sees: “We have good players. Just put them in the right positions and play together, and we will be all right. I think the stuff we are going to do fits me and fits our team. The ball moves a lot. We’ve got good players who command double teams. It’s a team system and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “I want a physicality when he’s on the floor. I want defensive rebounding. I want him to be athletic when he’s on the floor.”
  • Armstrong: “I just have to be aggressive. I can definitely help the team out with that. Play solid defense, talk, get up and be aggressive and hit the boards. Try to play my game and don’t do anything out of character.”
  • Both players said they are happy to leave a loser and join a playoff squad.

Now on to the interview with Sund:

Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?

“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”

Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?

“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”

Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?

“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”

Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?

“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”

Deep thoughts

At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.

I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.

I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?

I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.

Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.

If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.

In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

796 comments Add your comment

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

Good move LD

Wabe

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

Over/under 2 reverse lay-ins for J.Smith…

That last one was sick.

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

can’t deny jsmoove his top ten sc highlight.

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

Thank you basketball gods, we deserve this after watching this team for the last couple of weeks.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

Smoove with the nastily spectacular reverse lay up.

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

I meant Marvin has more turnovers (5) than points (4)

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:35 am

Wabe ,

Co-sign that. The nail in the coffin will be LD’s own comments. I guarantee you he will say the same thing after this game about Teague that he said last game. He’ll say that Teague was aggressive and defended well, and that he needs that from him.

If LD reverts back to what he was doing with Bibby/Jamal, and buries Teague on the bench, then he’s a damn fool. I like what I saw out of this tonight. 20 solid minutes for Teague when the game counted , so he could show what he’s made of. He got his burn with the starters. Clearly he does better with them than he does with Jamal and a bunch of butter-fingered scrubs (Zaza alone is responsible for about 100 missed assists for Teague).

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:36 am

Please get Marvin and Powell off the floor and get Hilton and Etan some burn

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
12:36 am

““Still cant believe Bibby and Mo were taking Teague and Damiens minutes.””

This team is so exponentially better without the “shotmakers” isn’t it? I’ll take attackers and layup makers over shot makers any day of the week.

Jae Evolution

February 26th, 2011
12:37 am

Marvin looks TERRIBLE tonight…

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:37 am

Way to go Marvin – if your a Warriors fan.

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:37 am

Ok, now I’m starting to feel sorry for Marvin.

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:37 am

Marvin with another turnover. Why is he still in the game? he can’t even play well against the Warriors second team…

Melvin

February 26th, 2011
12:38 am

Josh, you are killing your shooting percentage…

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:38 am

seriously, Marvin doesnt look interested

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 26th, 2011
12:38 am

Marvin Gay Williams at it again.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:38 am

I think Marvin and ZaZa had their egos wounded with the trade stuff. T Prince or Battier would have been nice for Marvin

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 26th, 2011
12:38 am

6 turnovers for Marvin – so soft

Booo!

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

Hinrich PG rust showing. He was been playing mainly at th SG spot for the last two seasons with Rose & Wall on their respective teams.

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

Geez Marv…SIX TOs? WTF is wrong with you? Maybe we need to start Damien and let Marv come off the bench so he’ll feel right again…

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

Marvin looks TERRIBLE every night got damit

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

But now this is on LD and his rotations again. He should have gotten Marvin out of the game ages ago. And Powell also

lewis

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

marvin has been horrific

Sautee

February 26th, 2011
12:39 am

O’Brien,

I don’t think Joe’s gonna get his 4.5 FTA. 0-0 so far.

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:40 am

Al looking like the all-star he is. Joe struggling again.

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:40 am

Josh should have got player of the game.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:40 am

Amundson is over powering us with his hustle right now. Wanted him in Etan or Powells spot

Sautee

February 26th, 2011
12:41 am

“This team is so exponentially better without the “shotmakers” isn’t it? I’ll take attackers and layup makers over shot makers any day of the week.”

Co-sign, any day of the week.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:42 am

Holton sighting – And we’re losing control of this game. That’s on LD

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:42 am

I can see Hilton Armstrong taking Powell’s minutes, such that they are. If the guy shows out well enough effort-wise, he’ll take Zaza’s as well. Stay tuned…you just never know.

Teague:

Still struggling to score against starters, that should be his offseason target of training.

5 assists to 2 turnvoers. That’s good. 3 steals. That’s also good.

Rev in Tampa

February 26th, 2011
12:42 am

NAJEH,

Looks like the Pistons were eager to be traded.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6159298

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:43 am

Got a few seconds of Hilton

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:43 am

shut up Nique.

doesnt take him long.

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:43 am

man this bench is the death of us.

terrell

February 26th, 2011
12:44 am

Damn Acie. lol!

Wabe

February 26th, 2011
12:44 am

If Drew plays it smart, he essentially has 4 gaurds in Teague, Hinrich, Jamal, and JJ.

3 of those 4 can defend.

I personally like Teague to start, because Teague + Jamal = the Jamal show.

With Teague running with the 1st unit, he actually looks to quarterback the offense. He also showed a lot today defensively vs. one of the better backcourts in the league with Monte and Curry. I think that alone should be enough to tempt Drew to let the kid loose. If we see the same routine, then we’ve got problems.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:44 am

Starters come back and take control

Don’t understand LD’s player combos sometimes. The other Coach is still coaching and he just watches

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:44 am

That was close Steve W. i thought it would have been an easy win, but LD had to put the starters back in. That Sucks.

terrell

February 26th, 2011
12:45 am

Did Joe play? Damn he was quiet.

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:45 am

they might wanna think about resting that calf..

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:45 am

Overall – Josh has been beasting it. And Teague belongs. Hope LD sees the same thing

AG

February 26th, 2011
12:46 am

Big Ray, if Teague plays with the starters, we are not asking him to score. He had a really good game. I think he deserves another start.

ICECOLD

February 26th, 2011
12:46 am

Im starting to think Rick Sunds is a decent GM
lets look at what he has done since he been here….

-drafted Jeff Teague…. ( its a decent draft pick to be so high.)
traded dead weight Acie Law, and Speedy Claxton for Jamal Crawford

-got rid of dead weight mo evans, mike bibby, and a rookie we dont use…
to get kirk Hinrich… which looks good so far….

all this and got a team that makes the playoffs over and over without going over the Luxary tax…

Now if the Hawks get Dwight Howard Next year, I dont care what yall say.. I will crown him top GM!!

all these other GM’s givin up a arm in a leg to get superstars and still not going to win a championship… and the hawks are right their with them

so if you look at RIck Sunds optimisticly, he is actually doing good!!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 26th, 2011
12:47 am

“Looks like the Pistons were eager to be traded.”

Yeah, I thought the same thing when I heard about that. Still think that Pistons trade would have really helped this team.

Oh well. At least now we can safely say everyone but Jamal in the regular rotation can play D. That is such a huge boost for this team. I’m looking forward to seeing if they can D up this well against better teams.

lewis

February 26th, 2011
12:47 am

joes gotta be hurt

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:48 am

Josh and Al lead the way, defense is the word of the day, I like this win.

mykhalc

February 26th, 2011
12:48 am

NOOOOOOOOOOOO way Teague should start!!! aint NOWHERE close to bein’ ready!!!

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:48 am

PG’s besides Jamal – 14 pts. 9 assists 3 steals. Yes Teague shot 2-9, but he’ll improve. He’s actually a very good scorer. 6 assists for Teague in 26 minutes

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:48 am

Jamal was 3-10, teague was 2-9, and marvin was 2-7. Horrible…

last 2 games Marvin is 3-14 from the field. Maybe Jamal’s slump is contagious…

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:49 am

Curry and Ellis 23 points total on 9-28 shooting. I like it