Atlanta Hawks at Warriors: The new guys, plus Rick Sund

San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .

  • L.D. said Teague will start again tonight along with J.J., Marvin, Josh and Al. Hinrich will play, too. Hinrich and Armstrong met the team here last night. Drew said they put some tape down in the ballroom at the hotel and gave the players a crash course on the team’s concepts.
  • Drew expects Hinrich and Teague to push the Hawks to play faster: “We definitely have got to get the ball in to both guys’ hands. I thought Jeff did a good job in Phoenix of keeping the pressure on the defense and pushing it. Kirk has the same ability. He’s not as fast as Jeff but he still pushes the ball at a pace that forces other guys to keep up.”
  • Based on his initial impressions of Atlanta’s offense, Hinrich likes what he sees: “We have good players. Just put them in the right positions and play together, and we will be all right. I think the stuff we are going to do fits me and fits our team. The ball moves a lot. We’ve got good players who command double teams. It’s a team system and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “I want a physicality when he’s on the floor. I want defensive rebounding. I want him to be athletic when he’s on the floor.”
  • Armstrong: “I just have to be aggressive. I can definitely help the team out with that. Play solid defense, talk, get up and be aggressive and hit the boards. Try to play my game and don’t do anything out of character.”
  • Both players said they are happy to leave a loser and join a playoff squad.

Now on to the interview with Sund:

Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?

“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”

Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?

“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”

Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?

“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”

Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?

“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”

Deep thoughts

At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.

I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.

I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?

I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.

Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.

If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.

In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

796 comments Add your comment

Hinrich is my hero

February 26th, 2011
12:01 am

GS crowd is giving it to them…boooooooooooooooo

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

we finally look athletic.

Nique's Revenge

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

ATL FAN

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

W.T.F. its been soooooooooooo long since we’ve had a nice blowout like this…

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

somebody do the dougie on these fools.

mykhalc

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

Marvin has gotta be the worst startin’ SF in the entire universe…known universes and those even yet to be discovered!!! sorry a$$!!!

Jae Evolution

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

We do the BLOWOUTS NOW!

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:02 am

The hawks have won only 1 game this season by 20 or more. This might be number 2.

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

and we’re holding the lead b/c we are making an effort get to the rim and not settle..

Chi got back in the game last night, attacking.. hit or miss. pounding.. hit or miss..

dont bail out the Defense.

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

So maybe I’ve been right since last season on Teague? Just sayin’

Booo!

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

AG

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

Again, athletic team needs quick PG. Even if Teague does not finsh, PLENTY OF OFFENSIVE rebounds because the bigs are rolling on Teague. He needs to learn to drive and dish!

Big Ray

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

Al is just killing the Warriors…

Booo!

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

Teague for Most improved Player!

terrell

February 26th, 2011
12:03 am

If we coulda got something for Marvin, .we’d be sittin pretty right about now. Oh well. Guess he’ll be here for a few more years. Unfortunately.

AG

February 26th, 2011
12:04 am

Nique does not like Teague, I have picked that up on several broadcast. Teague’s impact will not be seen in the box score

yoursporthouse.com

February 26th, 2011
12:04 am

MYKHALC…..LMFAO!!!! SORRY IN EVERY UNIVERSE!! Can you believe that there were guys on here vouching for this clown? “He’s improving, HE’S BACK, HE’S THIS” now everybody wants to all of a sudden get rid of him. Been saying this for 3 years, get rid of this guy!!!

terrell

February 26th, 2011
12:04 am

Marin got blocked, and acted like it was a pass to Al. lol!

Rev in Tampa

February 26th, 2011
12:04 am

I would like to see Hilton Armstrong get a few minutes if the Hawks keep building this lead

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:04 am

O’Brien- the only player Dominique wants to give credit to is Damien. “Get him out the game so he won’t pick up that third foul.” Who cares?

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

you can cause offense with defense not the other way around, see crawford.

Melvin

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

Here come Monte…. Oh I see, Jamal is in the game..

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

or create offense with defense.

ATL FAN

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

lol Al playing PG

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

Just remember that SAC game earlier in the year. Up 20 with 6 minutes to go, and still almost lost

Abe

February 26th, 2011
12:05 am

Marvin just aint tuff enuff!

Tremaine

February 26th, 2011
12:06 am

Noooooooooooyessssssssssss Josh!

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:06 am

so wet. hatttererrrrsss

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:06 am

TRADE JOSH SMITH..

HE S A CANCER

blah blah blah

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

so so so so wet

Nique's Revenge

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

LOLOLOL smoove

yoursporthouse.com

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

JOSH IS ON FIRE!!!!

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

wet!

feed him and fan him.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

ay that boy smoove goin off

Jae Evolution

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

Wow, allow me to shut my damn mouth J smoove.

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

though Al should have taken the initial jumper. passive.

ATL FAN

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

So far, this has been one of the best games the Hawks have played in years. All year it has been a slow offense with some hints of Iso. For the past 5 years, it’s just been ISO. Tonight, the Hawks are doing it all. Rebounding, playing great defense, great movement on offense, dribble penetration by PG, fast break points, you name it they’ve done it. GREAT GAME!!

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

I like Teague. But why couldn’t LD have done this a long time ago?

AG

February 26th, 2011
12:07 am

Josh in zone. We lose NOTHING with HINDRICH coming off bench

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:08 am

Josh should look at LD and ask “Is that a good shot, coach”?

he is hot..

Rev in Tampa

February 26th, 2011
12:08 am

LOL at Josh Smith. Dead-eye

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:08 am

GSW is no slouch either – won 7 of 10 before tonight

prison mike

February 26th, 2011
12:08 am

love for rich

bigdave

February 26th, 2011
12:08 am

that was good d from Slim Shady.. he stayed in front of Monta..

ATL FAN

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

We not only got a good PG in that trade, but we got someone that can make the free throws!!

O'Brien

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

Steve W,

At the Sactown game, we didnt have any defense from the PG position…

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

When you got Curry and Ellis in the BC and David Lee up front – your not a bad team

yoursporthouse.com

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

His Dad can shoot lights out from deep, I don’t know why he’s just now showing signs of a jump shot. Josh just needs to take shots a better spots in the game.

Nique's Revenge

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

lol tryin to steal on jj

SteveW

February 26th, 2011
12:09 am

O’Brien – Your right – thinkin’ about that