San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .
Now on to the interview with Sund:
Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?
“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”
Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?
“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”
Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?
“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”
Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?
“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”
Deep thoughts
At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.
I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.
I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?
I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.
Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.
If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.
In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
796 comments Add your comment
W.R.Terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:43 pm
I am watching the game and thoroughly surprised. It is halftime and that “smoove” person has not done one “DUMB ASS”, play up to this point. He actually is playing with some sense and ISO is not pounding as of yet. The defense has been superb and it has been a pleasure to watch so far. Marvin has actually played a lil bit, one block, a few rebounds and a few points but still not the forceful entity he should be. I hope the next 2 quarters produce a win, I am so tired of bitching.
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
11:43 pm
GS averages 103 a game and this is outstanding d so far.
Sautee
February 25th, 2011
11:43 pm
Joe Al and Josh all played major minutes. It would be nice if the bench could hold it’s on for some of the second half.
terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:44 pm
LMAO @ Marvin getting blocked my Monte Ellis on a 1 on 1 fast break.
Hinrich is my hero
February 25th, 2011
11:45 pm
At the half….
worst half of Hawks that have played …of course Marvin at +1(why is he not glued to the bench)???
best half of Hawks that have played….Teague at +19
bye bye Bibby
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:46 pm
Ramon..
what do ya know.. smh.
terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:47 pm
Bibby was too Lorenzen like. These guys look like they came to play tonight. It is the Warriors though. But still. And Teague outplaying Curry, just like I predicted. And yall wanted to trade Josh for Stephen. Gotta be out of yall damn minds.
AG
February 25th, 2011
11:47 pm
Typically teams make a run against the Hawks. Can they keep it up, or is this going to be a repeat of Bobcats?
hawksfancents95
February 25th, 2011
11:48 pm
hawks v bulls is going to decide a lot for hawks
Ra'mon
February 25th, 2011
11:48 pm
Terrell, they said Curry can guard KG, Lebron, and Bosh like Josh can.
terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:49 pm
I dare you guys jump on the Teague bandwagon. Haters!
Big Ray
February 25th, 2011
11:50 pm
Well, well, well. Not so much wailing about the Hinrich acquisition now, huh?
What a difference it makes when you actually HAVE the option of putting in a defensively capable combo guard who can also shoot.
Now all LD has to do is keep giving Teague minutes and keep using Jamal exclusively the way he was meant: as a hired gun to come in and fire off some rounds (shots).
No more having to use Jamal as a sixth starter in an attempt to win the game offensively, with only a little used 2nd year man as your only defensive counter measure (which by the way, Teague’s defense hasn’t quite evolved to the point of where he was able to turn a game around with just his defense…but he’s getting there).
Maybe now the “Fire Larry” chants will calm down just a hair. Long as he doesn’t keep Teague under the bench and Jamal in the game for 35 minutes every night.
terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:50 pm
Last time I checked everyone had “given up on Teague”. lol! Just kidding people.
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
11:50 pm
portland looks good so far. shame they getting healthy with roy and got a hawk killer crash joining them.
Sautee
February 25th, 2011
11:51 pm
bigdave,
With Howard playing like he did tonight, all he needs is 4 D-leaguers, LOL.
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
11:52 pm
After this season, Marvin still has 3 years, $22 mil left on his contract. Who would want him?
Sautee
February 25th, 2011
11:52 pm
Big Ray,
I’d LOVE to see Jamal’s minutes cut and have him playing the 2 exclusively.
AG
February 25th, 2011
11:53 pm
no jumpers guys
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
11:53 pm
the greek team chill played for wouldn’t even take him.
Tremaine
February 25th, 2011
11:54 pm
Josh please don’t mess this up.
yoursporthouse.com
February 25th, 2011
11:54 pm
I DON’T WANT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT TRADING JOSH…THE MINUTE HE’S TRADED, THAT’S WHEN THE LANE PARTS LIKE THE RED SEA!!! TEAMS WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY DRIVING THE LANE…
Tremaine
February 25th, 2011
11:54 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
February 25th, 2011
11:55 pm
that just reminded me of how much im gonna miss all those mike bibby steals followed by a jam
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:55 pm
defensive rebounding is starting to pis$ me off..
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 25th, 2011
11:55 pm
JT0!!!! Why wasn’t he starting again??
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:55 pm
good defenders will continue to crowd Horford @ the elbow. he cant put it on the floor.
and yall want him playing pf.
AG
February 25th, 2011
11:56 pm
STOP SHOOTING JUMPERS!!!!!
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:56 pm
he’s only an effective PF if he’s on the block where he can use strength and, thats not playing to his best asset, the jumper.
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
11:57 pm
Teague with the steal and slam!
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
11:57 pm
Sautee,
When the Lakers swing a SNT of Bynum and fillers for Howard next offseason (or at the trade deadline), they will be tough with Kobe, Howard, and Gasol
Najeh Davenpoop
February 25th, 2011
11:57 pm
That trade looks a lot better when you say “Hinrich, Armstrong, and TEAGUE for Bibby/Mo/Jordan/1st”.
yoursporthouse.com
February 25th, 2011
11:57 pm
Funny how ALL these people on here that were vouching for Marvin have changed their tune. Wow, how the tables have turned. We’ve been on here saying how garbage that guy has been for the longest. Now everybody has finally figured out what I’ve been saying for long. Sam from the Swats, Rod from College Park as well, NOBODY WANTS MARVIN WILLIAMS. WE WERE THE ONLY TEAM THAT GAVE HIM A CONTRACT EXTENSION FOR $7.5 MILLION A YEAR LIKE SOME IDIOTS!!
prison mike
February 25th, 2011
11:57 pm
I agree bd, horford can’t handle the thoroughbred power forwards one on one either.
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:58 pm
Sautee..
hell, me and you in the back court..
terrell
February 25th, 2011
11:58 pm
Poor Marvin.
ATL FAN
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
JT is winning us this game
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
keep forcing the action Jeff hit or miss..
Jae Evolution
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
KEEP ATTACKING TEAGUE!!!
bigdave
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
Jeff was fouled.
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
Maybe we should fly Marvin to Seattle before every game. He only plays good in his hometown…
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
11:59 pm
Teague with 2 steals this quarter. And although he missed a couple shots, Hawks were there for the rebound.
Meanwhile…Marvin is 2-6 in 14 minutes, and 3 turnovers.
If falling down was an NBA skill, Marvin would be an all-star
Jae Evolution
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
DAMN THEY NEVER GIVE HIM A CALL SWIPED THE HELL OUT HIS ARM.
yoursporthouse.com
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
Yeah Teague…a penetrating point guard, wow where has this been. See how a penetrating PG breaks the defense down and you can get easy put backs.
northcyde
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
I’ve been one of Teague’s biggest critics all year. But I do agree that if he’s giving us production while playing with the starters, then he should at least be the new Royal Ivey, and start each half. And if he plays well enough, give him spot minutes in the 2nd and 4th quarters.
I still don’t think he’s a leader, but he’s far more comfortable with those starters. I guess because his mistakes aren’t magnified when he’s on the court with them. And they can make him look like a better player. Kind of how Zaza was a far better player as a starter, than as a reserve.
The key is going to be if Drew falls in love with a Hinrich – Crawford backcourt, especially at the end of games. Jamal is still Jamal, and he does not need to be in the game if we need better defense on the floor ( even if we’re losing ).
I want Hinrich – JJ – Marvin – Smith – Horford to close out games.
ATL FAN
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
LMFAO MARVIN
Melvin
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
Marvin shot got block into a Al Horford assist….LOL
yoursporthouse.com
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
Marvin, get that ISH outta here….SO WEAK!!
ATL FAN
February 26th, 2011
12:00 am
NICE SPIN MOVE LOL
prison mike
February 26th, 2011
12:01 am
cmon horf now.
O'Brien
February 26th, 2011
12:01 am
Nique said Teague is playing pretty decent. Huh? Can we please get a real analyst though…