Atlanta Hawks at Warriors: The new guys, plus Rick Sund

San Francisco–Caught up with the Hawks here this morning (tip: never, ever drive in this city) before heading to Oaktown. Here are some quick notes, followed by a Rick Sund Q and A,. . .

  • L.D. said Teague will start again tonight along with J.J., Marvin, Josh and Al. Hinrich will play, too. Hinrich and Armstrong met the team here last night. Drew said they put some tape down in the ballroom at the hotel and gave the players a crash course on the team’s concepts.
  • Drew expects Hinrich and Teague to push the Hawks to play faster: “We definitely have got to get the ball in to both guys’ hands. I thought Jeff did a good job in Phoenix of keeping the pressure on the defense and pushing it. Kirk has the same ability. He’s not as fast as Jeff but he still pushes the ball at a pace that forces other guys to keep up.”
  • Based on his initial impressions of Atlanta’s offense, Hinrich likes what he sees: “We have good players. Just put them in the right positions and play together, and we will be all right. I think the stuff we are going to do fits me and fits our team. The ball moves a lot. We’ve got good players who command double teams. It’s a team system and I’m excited to be a part of it.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “I want a physicality when he’s on the floor. I want defensive rebounding. I want him to be athletic when he’s on the floor.”
  • Armstrong: “I just have to be aggressive. I can definitely help the team out with that. Play solid defense, talk, get up and be aggressive and hit the boards. Try to play my game and don’t do anything out of character.”
  • Both players said they are happy to leave a loser and join a playoff squad.

Now on to the interview with Sund:

Q. Before the deadline, you said you would only make trades that improve the team and wouldn’t make any lateral moves. In your view, how did this trade make the team better?

“Larry wanted to upgrade the point guard position, particularly defensively, and still try to be able to maintain the shooting that we had with Bibby’s presence out there. We looked at this deal and thought it made some sense. It was tough to let Jordan go in particular. I don’t mind so much the draft pick but we really like Jordan. He’s got a huge upside. It was difficult to get him minutes this year. He’s going to have a fine career. But at the end of the day, like with most teams in transition, you have got to give up a draft pick and/or young player to whet their appetite. So that’s what we did.”

Q. By trading Jordan and your first-round pick in 2011, does it signal a win-now approach as opposed to developing players for the future?

“We also have a pretty young team. We’ve got three starters that started opening night at 24. You still have Jeff in a backup capacity, where he should be a senior in college. He’s young. Then you’ve got a couple of players that are in their prime. Joe is in his prime, and so is Jamal and certainly Hinrich is in his prime. You look at the two teams in the championship last year in final game, of the 10 starters nine where in their 30s.”

Q. How much did uncertainty of labor situation affect your approach to making deals?

“Not a lot because nobody knows what the rules are going to be. To be very honest with you I was really surprised there were as many trades as there were. Somebody mentioned that since the season started there have been 24 trades of various sorts that you would consider semi-significant. You have the big trades like Carmelo; Deron was a huge trade. And there there were other semi-significant trades. That seems like a lot compared to other years. And I thought there wasn’t going to be a lot of trades.”

Q. Now that the smoke has cleared, how do you think your team stacks up in the East?

“We have to see it out. All year we have been basically playing for the fifth, fourth and third hole. And of those three teams, everybody goes through their highs and lows. We have had some highs–January in particular was a good month–and now we are in a slump. Miami had some slumps and then they went on a huge streak, and then they went back to a slump. Chicago seems to be like us last year. They are great at home and they are .500 on the road and so they are sort of where we were at this point last year going forward. You’ve got Boston who have an NBA championship and has three players who are headed to the Hall of Fame. Miami has got two players that have been battling for MVP of the league and three players who have made the All-Pro. Orlando has an MVP candidate this year in Dwight. And you have Chicago who has an MVP this year in Derrick Rose. And then you have Atlanta that has two players that made the All-Star team. I thought it was ironic in LA they interviewed Kobe and he said, ‘Well, I feel like I am playing Boston, Miami and Atlanta [because nine East All-Stars are from those teams]. Also the Knicks are going to be no picnic if you have to play them and Philly can surprise you. It’s up to the players now, I think, on all of the teams. March and April are the home stretch and it’s up to the players and how they are going to respond to it and how they are going to respond in the playoffs. It’s a challenge for us, certainly. It’s as challenge and an opportunity at the same time.”

Deep thoughts

At last check, the (completely unscientific) blog poll asking whether this trade was good or bad for the Hawks was running about 50-50. I haven’t looked at all of your 1,600 or so comments from the last couple of days (thanks much for reading, blog people) but I think I can take a decent stab at the reasoning of the differing perspectives.

I’m guessing most in the “good” camp like the trade because they think the team is better now. Hinrich is a better player than Bibby. He’s a better defender, comparable shooter and should be able to diversify the offense by running pick-and-rolls. JC2 could become a good player but he’s not part of the plans now so off he goes.

I’m guessing most of those in the “bad” camp don’t like the trade because, even if it makes the team better now, it doesn’t improve the Hawks enough to give them a good chance at beating the elite teams in the playoffs. So why make a deal like this while sending away a young player and a pick, sacrificing the future while doubling down on this “core” group that may not take the Hawks where they want to go?

I think the views in both camps are reasonable. I also know that we can’t see the future. The Hawks should be better with Hinrich instead of Bibby, both from tangible and intangible standpoints. I understand if you don’t believe they will be good enough, but let’s see what happens.

Sund said declined to comment on trade scenarios that didn’t happen, including whether he tried to get in on any of the major deals by dangling any players from Atlanta’s “core” group. From what I’m hearing the Hawks did try to get in on some of those discussions but didn’t get very far.

If you are upset the Hawks couldn’t make a splashier deal then realize it takes assets like expiring contracts, productive players with reasonable contracts, young players with potential and draft picks. The Hawks don’t have much of any of those because of decisions made in the past, so those should be the focus of your ire if you don’t like this trade. I can’t speak accurately on what deals they may or may not have offered (or turned down) for their “core” players so it’s hard to evaluate those hypothetical scenarios.

In any event, the Hawks have 25 games against a tough schedule to figure out what they are about. From my perspective, at least, it should be interesting.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

796 comments Add your comment

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

marvin fingers are made out of straw. booty fingers.

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

Marvin Williams =Garbage

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

lol Marvin II!!! Thank you, goodbye Marvin!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 25th, 2011
11:32 pm

What up Acie

cliff levingston

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

going to bed SPSO sucks

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

Imagine what this team could be with a solid option at the 3.

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

I really believe (and hope) that this is Marvin last year in a Hawks uniform…

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

Great defense Teague!

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

all of a sudden we forcing turns..

O'Brien

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

Ellis is what, 6′3″? Josh is 6′9″.

And the hawks defense has picked up since Jamal went out, and Teague came back in

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

yea nique…the hawks can play defense when you got folks on the floor that are committed to playing def.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:33 pm

thats why nobody wanted Marvin yesterday. Even the D-League turned down trade offers.

Rev in Tampa

February 25th, 2011
11:34 pm

THe Hawks defense looks completely different tonight.

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:34 pm

beer gut acie, what a bust.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 25th, 2011
11:35 pm

We actually acquired 2 pt guards at the deadline….Teague and Hinrich

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:35 pm

Teague pushing temp was able to take advantage of GS defense not being set.. getting a Acie Josh matchup..

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:36 pm

Please feathers…

fly away

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:36 pm

nice job Teague, ignored Josh when he was calling for the ball, keep it up

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:36 pm

jjjoe joe my ninja.

Tremaine

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Dominique swear Damien is the next star in the family. NOT!

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Great steal and score by Joe to end the half…

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

lmao warriors suck good half hawks

N.D.T.K.A

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Teague makes the whole team better especially defensively, just needs playing time to build his confidence.

Ra'mon

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Must admit that was a GREAT play by Joe!

Rev in Tampa

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Wow, Stephen Curry’s first shot of the game. Can anyone say defense?

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

feel good 1st half here folks..

i blame Mo Evans trying to grow that shid for our bad luck of late..

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

Love it…

Good half.

Rejuvinated.

Hope to have more of a look at Hinrich in that 2nd half.

Nique's Revenge

February 25th, 2011
11:37 pm

this is the hawks play I remember

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:38 pm

We would be being torn apart right now by Curry and Monta if not for Hinrich and Teague

Rufus1

February 25th, 2011
11:38 pm

?????? Who is this team? That that defense is spectacular.

Ra'mon

February 25th, 2011
11:38 pm

If he’s playing like this, don’t you have to let Teague remain the starter, and bring Hinrich off of the bench?

yoursporthouse.com

February 25th, 2011
11:39 pm

Now, if we can just get rid of this Marvin “I can’t believe I’m in the NBA” Williams!!

AG

February 25th, 2011
11:39 pm

Yes, WE TRADED FOR TWO POINT GUARDS….LD I know this is GS, but this is the recipe. Don’t let Jamal play point. Also, start Teague, finisher Hinrich. Do like Andy Reid did, suck up pride and play the hot man. Wow, a point guard going to the paint and drawing a foul.

Christian

February 25th, 2011
11:39 pm

Teague doing good so far, and as for Kirk Hinrich, he might have not played a lot so far because of the fouls but his presence and defense is good as well!

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

hell Damien needs to smart… he seems to be the smarter player too..

prison mike

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

teague is playing well but against top tier pgs is where he won’t excel.

Rev in Tampa

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

Teague leading the Hawks in +/- at the half with a +19

yoursporthouse.com

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

Teague needs to work on making better decisions and his jump shot because his defense is pretty good.

Ra'mon

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

ATL, can’t really say that, because the last time GS were in Atlanta, Curry and Ellis both had horrible games. They both were 4-13.

Melvin

February 25th, 2011
11:40 pm

Hawks would have been up by 30 had Jamal not guard Monte during that stretch in the 2nd qtr…

Rufus1

February 25th, 2011
11:41 pm

“We actually acquired 2 pt guards at the deadline….Teague and Hinrich”

I co-sign on that MAC

Booo!

February 25th, 2011
11:41 pm

“teague is no acie lawless.”

+1

ATL FAN

February 25th, 2011
11:41 pm

Golden State is a small team… our only problem now is playing against those bigger teams such as the Lakers and Magic… maybe Armstrong can help out there

hawksfancents95

February 25th, 2011
11:41 pm

If we can get a legit 7footer Center and keep our core joe2 josh3 al4 we would be in the finals at least once in the next 3 years

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:41 pm

13pt/6reb/4ast

impact player.

O'Brien

February 25th, 2011
11:42 pm

Ra’mon,

I agree. because Hinrich is a better fit with Jamal than teague. And if there is a switch, Hinrich can defend some SGs. And playing with the starters allows teague be more active on offense (pushing the ball, etc), and he has guys who can finish his assists.

I woud start teague, and keep a close eye on him. if he is struggling, or the same is getting away early, then I would bring Hinrich in ASAP.

Wabe

February 25th, 2011
11:42 pm

Ra’mon

February 25th, 2011
11:38 pm
If he’s playing like this, don’t you have to let Teague remain the starter, and bring Hinrich off of the bench?

I say that’s a better play for Drew anyways. At the least, Teague buys you minutes at the start of games. He’s not too bad quarterbacking the offense, so he wouldn’t be expected to put on an offensive display. He could simply run the offense, and let the scorers (JJ, Horford, Josh) do their thing.

With Hinrich and Jamal both coming off the bench, you have two solid threats to score, and you’re not completely lost defensively with Hinrich capable of applying pretty good defensive pressure.

I think the Hinrich deal just brings a lot more versatility to this team. Drew can do a lot more than he could before, but he has to play his cards right, and he can’t resort to what we saw before. Logging heavy minutes for JJ, Jamal, Hinrich and letting Teague rot. Teague’s capable of logging meaningful minutes.

bigdave

February 25th, 2011
11:42 pm

joe3/josh4/Dwight5

gets you to the finals.

cp

February 25th, 2011
11:42 pm

So nice to have perimeter defense and guys getting steals. Im with Melvin and hope this is Marvin’s last year. LD has to do a better job of yanking Jamal though. Ellis was having a field day out there.

Ra'mon

February 25th, 2011
11:43 pm

Bigdave, you’re not talking about the player every one wanted to trade 48 hours ago are you?