Atlanta Hawks: Suns 105, Hawks 97

Hawks are turrible right now

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“It’s a business, of course, but there was a real sense of personal loss in Atlanta’s locker room.”

I hope it’s also coupled with a sense of personal responsibility. Bibby was the fall guy for shaking things up, and he certainly wasn’t giving the Hawks what they needed from the point guard position, but it’s not like everyone else was blameless either.

I thought Teague was solid given that it was his second career start. Good to see LD feels the same way, although we should all know better than to expect LD’s actions to align with his words at this point.

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“the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future. I’m sure opinions vary on that approach among my blog people ”

Ideally, player and asset development is what keeps organizations stable and successful. In this particular organization, the people responsible for drafting and player development do such a p-ss poor job at it that thet might as well trade them for proven talent that doesn’t require development. I’d like to see the day, though, when this organization can acquire people who will bring in good talent and develop it while also winning games, like every successful organization does.

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I don’t know why I keep feeling the urge to post trade ideas — maybe deep down inside I’m hoping someone within the Hawks organization will see it and get an idea or something — but anyway, I leave y’all with this for now.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4m6ravx

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I will admit it if I’m wrong but I have never been enamored with JC2.
Any rookie that is going to be a SS would have played his way onto
the court. Personally I like players like Hinrich [glue guys].
Heck, I liked Bibby and wish him well. When he returns, we owe him
a warm welcome. We need another one or two hard nosed leader types,
and rid ourselves of some of the rot. * Before tomorrow’s deadline *

I must give Sund a little credit for doing something. (anything)
This team had to be shaken up.
More so than Zaza, I wish for Marvin to leave.
One old man’s wish list of my kind of players…just one or two:
Battier [Heads the list] Lowry, Murphy [rebounder] Artest…..
Gerald Wallace, Amir Johnson, Sessions, Grant Hill, Varejao,
or Reggie Evans, et al.
These guys display some or all of these characteristics;
smart, leaders, tough, play hard every night, glue guys,
they will fight you in order to win, they play defense,
they will knock you down and are great teammates.

Don’t quit now Sund ol’ boy, stay after it.

Once again, Mr. Michael Cunningham…..Thanks!

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Detroit would save $2 million off next year’s cap and a little less than $1 million this year. They are being sold and do not want to take on additional salary. I wouldn’t mind throwing in one of the Hawks’ two second round picks this year if it helped get the deal done.

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Apparently Bob Rathbun the eternal optimist has a Twitter. Didn’t know that until just now.

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Is Hilton Armstrong our NEW center??

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#icant with the Hawks right now.

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MsDee,

Horford is not a part of the rebounding problem for the team. He’s really the only guy on the team who consistently boxes out and pursues rebounds. Keep in mind that Horford is a top-10 rebounder in this league, and he is playing against the largest players in the league. The biggest problem for us in terms of rebounding is that our team, collectively, does a poor job of boxing out and gang rebounding. The guards typically start sprinting the other way when a shot is missed, and Josh often relies on his jumping ability to get rebounds rather than boxing out. Josh is still a pretty good rebounder, but he does it unconventionally. Those of you who don’t believe what I am saying should watch some of the game tape.

At any rate, I’d still love to get someone like Big Ben on the team, along with someone like prince. Those types of trades of extremely unlikely to happen though, so don’t get your hopes up.

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Realistically, how many people think that the Hinrich trade is going to be the only move made before the deadline? I’m desperately hoping that another trade is made, hopefully for an impact player either better than Hinrich, or for a quality center to allow Horford to play the position he prefers. I’m really doubting that any other move is going to be made, though. I’m curious, how many of you think another move will take place before the deadline. Time is running short, and we haven’t heard anything concrete yet as far as Zaza goes.

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Yahoo Sports reporting the Clippers & Cavs trade!!

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Mo Williams, Jamario Moon, & draft pick.

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@Andre,

I’m hearing that ZaZa will soon be gone by tomorrow..only reason for him sitting out tonight. Hilton can start while Collins comes off the bench, til we get a betta center for ZaZa hopefully!

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@EmirS,

Not happy with that trade, no one on the Bobcats is worthy of Josh Smith’s ‘bonehead’ plays..like Najeh’s trade idea betta with Detroit.

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@MsDee

Yea I like his alot better as well. Thought I’d have a bit fun with that machine.

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Dumb trade. Give up 2 1st round picks for a serviceable player. “DUMBSUNDOFAGM”. Zaza is not going to get us anything worth speaking of. Maybe we can get Corey Brewer at most. Which is another good wing and would be good to have him back with Horford.

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Najeh,

Popcornmachine.net proves again my view on Jamal:

When league left the court on the first period, we were even.

It’s true that Teague was having difficulties defending the pick ‘n roll, but he trying and fighting.

Jamal then played a bunch of minutes (19 – all the rest of the first half) and during that period the Hawks were outscored by 14 points whilst Jamal had 5 points and shot horribly.

The hawks got back into the game with a modest but significant recovery to open the third when Teague materialised a 3 point play, had a terrific dish to Horford who converted 2 FT and a good drive which Horford rebounded and dunked in.

Then Jamal was obviously hot and had 8 or 10 points almost in no time but then he disappeared and after being tied, the game got away from us with Jamal hurting us on D to close the game.

LD should have taken Jamal out and either go big (with JJ at the point and getting Marvin in – who played well on D) or give Teague the closing minutes as change of pace / good effort on perimeter D move. Like I said, he was struggling a bit on D but who isn’t against Nash? And at least he was giving it a good effort.

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@vava74,

Totally agree, no reason for Teague not to be in the game towards the end. He was not hurting us. Driving and attacking the basket is what he was doing out there. He could draw fouls since he is pretty good at the ft line.

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Arnstrong is a 8-10 guy because of his inability (or lack of) rebounding. Say ZaZa with an ability to block and challenge shots. I like the young man’s athleticism, but I still hope there’s a physical presence in the proposed ZaZa deal…

@ Niremetal…
Do you think that the “infamous” trade exemption finally gets used a deal involving ZaZa? Or is that even a possibility?

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We need another trade.

TRADE JOSH SMITH.

Watch players like Josh rebel against Hinrich’s serious demeanor. Smoove will be mad that he isn’t allowed to do what he wants anymoer

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LOL @ people mad about Jo-Craw and the 1st rounder.
What the hell is this team going to do with the 18th or 20th pick in the draft? Draft another 6″11 stiff or wing that will never play? Jo-Craw made it clear he has no game besides chucking wild shots.

We got rid of garbage (Bibby and Mo) and upgraded at PG. We also have money left that we saved last summer.

I’d like to see one more trade

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Bad rotations by the coach. Teague looked great and seems to be the only one on the team that can get to the basket.

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And why cannot Collins check Gortat? He had a good game the night before and gets 4 min?
Larry’s words don’t match his actions.

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Thing that sucks is that the Knicks will pass us after the deadline passed. MAKE A TRADE NOW

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why does a 6′9″ forward always stop at the 3 point line and watch his team play offense

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Team loss tonight. Josh and Al weren’t rebounding early, and our defense was bad. It’s hard to come back from 18 points down on the road (unless you’re the Charlotte Bobcats and you’re playing the Hawks ).

I think Jeff played ok (all things considered). And in 19 minutes of PT, Teague had 3 FTA. For the whole season, Bibby had 46. Teague definitely deserves another 15-20 minutes of PT tomorrow night.

What’s up with Marvin? 1-7 tonight in 29 minutes. The irony is he had a +8 rating, and was the only Hawks in the positive. We need “it was not a bad pick” to come hype up Marvin again, because that was when Marvin went on his hot streak.

And what’s up with JJ? His points the last 5 games…11, 14, 11, 14, and 12. He still gets his share of rebounds and assists, but we need more scoring from him, especially since the Hawks have lost 5 of their last 6.

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Hinrich brings exactly the intensity we need. The guy gets into scuffles and gets technical fouls. It’s about time we got some damn intensity from the Point Guard position

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This is what we are getting with Kirk Hinrich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cA9FMiCxA

How many other players on the Hawks besides that fluke Marvin fight would do this?

It’s about time we got some damn toughness on this team. Now get rid of Smoove for a center and this team will compete.

Good move, Sund.

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Najeh,

Huge loss for the Hawks, considering that Chicago and Orlando both lost .

And the Knicks won, so they are 4 games behind the Hawks in the loss column.

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The 76ers had 3 players off their bench in double figures last night

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Free Jordan Crawford

Hate to see us give him away.

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We just traded a carbon copy of jamal who had a better shooting stroke and who was eight years younger. I guess this means we have to resign jamal in the offseason? Players like that don’t came around very often (JC2) kid was an absolute steal, and jamal isn’t getting any younger.

I mean, the kid shoots effortlessly from Deep-Deep Joe Johnson – type range.

LD makes me sick.

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“Players like that don’t came around very often (JC2)”

I agree that Jordan was a promising player, but I don’t necessarily agree that players like him don’t come around often. Undersized combo guards are one of the most common type of players you can find in the league. Dominique Jones and Eric Bledsoe both went in the second half of the same first round. The role of a scorer off the bench is not that hard to replace, at least compared with other positions.

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The Hawks are very average in the present and just forfeited the future. New ownership is needed to get the top free agents. To be a great point guard away from being a dominant team and management trading for an average point guard tells you all you need to know…

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Jo-Craw did nothing for this team. He just shoots

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I’m gonna miss him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnp7HDI3Gbs&feature=related

To be fair though, his defens was about as bad as Jamals lol. Then again. I did say he was a carbon copy.

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Hawks like to fill their roster with minimum salary vets who don’t need training vs non lottery rookies.

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Teague kind-of got shafted in this deal as well. He plays great and now he has to go back to the bench and get NO PLAYING TIME. YOu cound see Nash start to step his game up midway throuh the 1st quater when he realized that Teague was forreal….he then proceeded to bait the youngster into a couple fouls lol.

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I am just going to assume that rick has a couple more deals up his sleeve. He has just to.

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Apparently the Grizzlies and Rockets are talking Battier-for-Thabeet, and the Rockets want a first rounder from Memphis to complete the deal. If a turd sandwich and a first rounder is enough to acquire Battier, then I would think Jamal and a first rounder in 2013 should at least approach what it takes to get Battier and Aaron Brooks.

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As HOOPSWORLD’s Alex Kennedy covered earlier, the Atlanta Hawks have acquired point guard Kirk Hinrich and center Hilton Armstrong from the Washington Wizards in exchange for Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans, Jordan Crawford and their 2011 first round draft pick.

With all of the other Eastern Conference power players strengthening their lineups over the past eight months coupled with Atlanta’s recent struggles on the court it was only a matter of time before the franchise jumped into the fray.

Ever since the Atlanta Hawks passed on the likes of Chris Paul and Deron Williams in the 2005 draft for Marvin Williams the subject of point guard has been a touchy one to loyal followers of the franchise.

Those concerns were magnified during the 2009-10 campaign when Bibby, who’d been solid in his first two seasons with the team, posted career-low numbers across the board. Before the start of the 2010-11 season Bibby told HOOPSWORLD part of the reason for his struggles was reporting to camp out of playing shape due to his contract negotiations that offseason.

During the early stages of this season it appeared Bibby, now in better shape, was accurate in his assessment and he jumped out the gate shooting over 50 percent from three-point range. However, after the torrid start the veteran point guard cooled off considerably which led to the team’s decision to shop him around the league.

Since the Hawks have goals of making it to the Eastern Conference at the very least this season, bringing in Hinrich is an immediate upgrade. The move won’t shake the NBA landscape on a mainstream basis, but there is no denying his addition to the club puts them in a better position than the team occupied heading into the All-Star break.

Trade Advantages

Defensive Presence: Even in Bibby’s prime years he was never known as a defensive stopper. The further Bibby became removed from his prime, the more his defensive deficiencies became obvious to even the most causal of fan.

In a conference which boasts supremely quick point guards such as Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo and Brandon Jennings (and now Deron Williams!), Bibby’s lateral quickness became a liability for Atlanta’s lineup. Since there isn’t a great deal of shot blocking inside teams who were able to penetrate the lane routinely gave the Hawks fits.

Hinrich, 30, on the other hand brings a hard-nosed approach to the defensive end. The former University of Kansas standout has earned praise throughout his career on the defensive side of the ball and will tighten up the Hawks’ porous perimeter defense.

Offense/Playmaking: Although Hinrich is a 42 percent career shooter from the field, he’s a very solid spot-up shooter with range stretching beyond the three-point arc.

In addition, Hinrich has demonstrated the ability to break down opposing defenses, cause havoc and get into the lane which is something the perimeter oriented Hawks have lacked in their offense with Bibby running the show.

Size, Size, Size and More Size: It’s no secret that All-Star center Al Horford wants to play more power forward moving into the future, so Armstrong provides another young body inside to take the pounding which will free Horford up more to play his natural position. Armstrong is really limited on offense but on a roster with plenty of capable scorers all he’ll need to do is rebound, shot block and provide interior toughness.

While the on court product once Hinrich and Armstrong get acclimated to their new teammates will be much better, everything about the deal isn’t great for the Hawks over the long-term.

Trade Disadvantages

Future Talent Pipeline: By acquiring Hinrich and Armstrong, the Hawks essentially sent two first-round draft picks to Washington. Sure Crawford played sparingly this season, but that was expected being slotted behind veterans Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford on the depth chart. Crawford, No. 27 overall pick, in last June’s draft can play and will eventually contribute at the pro level.

Throw in the 2011 first-round pick shipped to the Wizards and the Hawks have definitely weakened their talent pipeline of the future for Hinrich’s services alone since Armstrong is a free agent this summer.

Lastly, second-year point guard Jeff Teague’s role will likely not increase with the move which also brings into question how the team views him as part of the future. Entering the season Teague was expected to give Bibby a run for the starting lineup, but now he will remain relegated to spot duty off the bench.

Financial Flexibility: The already cost conscious Hawks added more payroll to the books when factoring in the value of Hinrich’s remaining deal. The veteran will earn $8 million in 2012. Bibby and Crawford were set to earn $7.3 million next season combined.

Team Chemistry: Bibby may not have been part of the “core” but the guys in the locker room truly respected him on and off the court. Plus he was a solid mentor to Teague. Bringing in new pieces always leads to these types of concerns. It remains to be seen how Hinrich and Armstrong adjust to new teammates, coaches, roles and offensive/defensive philosophies.

Small Forward Depth: The Hawks were extremely thin at small forward to begin with, but by trading Evans the club gets weaker at this slot. Damien Wilkins will presumably inherit Evans’ minutes in the rotation and provides more defense. The move puts more pressure on Williams’ ability to stay healthy which hasn’t been a lock by any stretch this season.

Overall, the Hawks made an extremely solid move to strengthen their chances at competing in a rapidly improving conference and probably overpaid a little doing so. Giving up the first-round pick is a big risk in terms of future trade assets and talent development, but the Hawks faithful were getting restless standing idle so you can’t fault the team by upgrading the (very touchy) point guard position.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18883#ixzz1EswhL3PU

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Michael Cunningham is probable for Golden State (shoulder). No decision yet, but LD says Ken Suguira might start in his place.

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Rather than remain bystanders in an Eastern Conference that is either top-heavy (Boston, Miami, Chicago) or has been hyper-active in transforming their roster (Orlando, New York), the Hawks jumped into the fray on Wednesday by acquiring Kirk Hinrich and Hilton Armstrong for Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans, Jordan Crawford and a first round pick in 2011.

Bibby remained an excellent floor-spreading shooter at point guard, but didn’t produce anything of value off the dribble and was a complete liability on the defensive end. The Hawks give up 105.9 points per 100 possessions, which ranks them 13th in the NBA and the addition of Hinrich will allow the team to stop the ball better up top and that trickles down to the rest of the team.

Hinrich is several years older than he was when he played excellent defense against Dwyane Wade in the 2007 Playoffs and he hasn’t looked himself on that end of the floor this season. The Hawks need to hope some of that is based on the kinds of players he was teamed with as a member of the Wizards.

Hinrich isn’t quite as good of a pure perimeter shooter as Bibby, but he is shooting a still strong 38.4% from distance and that is a fairly typical output for him historically. He also is skilled on the pick and roll, an area that will benefit Atlanta’s offensive output. The Hawks are slightly below average in offensive efficiency and hopefully the infusion of Hinrich means more Al Horford pick and rolls and less isolations from Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford.

I’d also like to see the Hawks give Jeff Teague a little bit more run since he is essentially their only young player with latent potential left on the roster. Losing a first round pick in the upcoming draft, along with the 2010 first round pick doesn’t make Atlanta’s already bleak long-term outlook appear any better.

Armstrong was the 12th overall pick in 2006 and has legitimate size, but he has failed to develop in a way to warrant anything more than end of rotation minutes. He’s a decent rebounder and shotblocker, but doesn’t produce offensively, though that fits what the Hawks generally need. Armstrong has had a few decent moments this season and he adds six fouls against Dwight Howard that Maurice Evans couldn’t produce. I wouldn’t expect him to finally figure things out, but maybe he overachieves with Atlanta and allows Larry Drew to give Horford a few extra minutes at power forward. As far as throw-ins go, you can do a lot worse than Armstrong.

The Hawks will now have Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Horford, Smith and Crawford to close out most games and that is a better defensive unit than substituting out Hinrich for Bibby. With the offensive end being a virtual wash, the Hawks should have an easier time winning close games, but this trade doesn’t accomplish a ton from a 48 minute perspective.

For Jamal Crawford, he is reunited with his former rival from Chicago and Hinrich’s presence will probably force him to move on this offseason yet again.

One possible negative for the Hawks is that Bibby could end up with an Eastern Conference playoff team that needs a point guard and there are several that fit the profile. Bibby doesn’t make a huge difference, as the Hawks know well, but if he hits a few three-pointers here and there while facilitating for a team that is strong on defense at the other four positions, then he certainly doesn’t hurt.

The Hawks needed to do something, otherwise they were looking at a first round exit, but this is a half-measure and half-measures are not what fringe contenders need. Atlanta is paying a heavy price-tag simply to trade in one over-30 guard for another over-30 guard.

A more ambitious trade involving Marvin Williams, or even Josh Smith if they wanted to really attempt a substantial shake-up would have had a stronger positive impact.

Grade for Hawks: D+

The Wizards pick up a player selected in the late 20s in Crawford and a pick this season that will also be in the 20s. Washington also saves some money in the trade, though it is relatively minor unless Bibby accepts a reduced buyout to get back to a playoff team.

Washington took on Hinrich with the team’s cap space last June/July and used the pick Chicago threw in to draft Kevin Seraphin and now they add Joe Crawford, and two parts that won’t be around very long. Considering first round picks cost about $3 million apiece to buy from teams looking for cash, this is what they have essentially paid on average for Seraphin, Jordan Crawford and the player to be drafted later.

I thought Jordan Crawford was a stretch to be selected in the first round in the first place and has been given very little playing time this season. He can handle the ball a little bit and was a pure scorer on the college level and the Wizards need to hope he develops into a Jodie Meeks.

For me at this point, no trade for the Wizards is a true success unless it involve Andray Blatche, Nick Young or Al Thornton.

Grade for Wizards: B+

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/blog/211344/Grading_The_Deal_Hawks_Improve_Defense_With_Hinrich#ixzz1Et1DZDUK

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Aww Joe. Your’e losing a few friends(who suck at basketball). Whatever.

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Al seems like the only guy who realizes it’s about winning and not farting around in the lockerroom with MiniMe

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I havn’t watched Hinrich this year but i’ve enjoyed his game in the past.

If you think this trade sucks, you have not been watching the Hawks..

3 incredibly ineffective players for leadership, defensive intensity.

we might be able to hold on to the 5 spot now. but when joe johnson says i don’t know what to do, that means move bibby.

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Lewis, Very true. My only complaint is…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XejLyk3kJZg

Thats all i’m sayin’

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Exactly, lewis.

We got rid of garbage and upgraded with a feisty PG.

This year’s draft blows and this team sucks at drafting. I just wish Teague had played more last night. There’s nothing he didn’t do last night that Bibby does

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I liked Jordan Crawford too, sad to see him go, happy to see the Hawks didn’t ruin him

We drafted him simply as a trade piece anyway

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Joe’s hurt, we have to assume this because we know he won’t tell anyone

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Really, if Teague can hit an occasional 3 ( as he does), how is he ANY worse than Bibby? He GETS in the lane. Who cares if his shot gets blocked sometimes? He is penetrating the lane

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agreed, damien has played well.

you know you’re beast when you defend Gortat and Frye in the paint as an SG

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Hilton Armstrong’s #s are not horrendous if given minutes

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Keep preaching JeJe!!

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Teague and Damien with 20 mpg will do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what Bib and Mo did

LD just can’t see this

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http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/24/howard-fed-up/

D12 is pissed!

Huge Trade (dream).

Hawks Get:
D. Howard
J. Redick
H. Turkoglu

Orlando gets
J. Johnson
J. Crawford
M. Williams,
and 2013, 2015 first round draft picks

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Did anyone see Jamal call a P&R with Smoove last night and Jamal had this look on his face like “dude come here already”

LOL he looked pissed

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IOS JOE, THE FANS WANT A REFUND..500K A NIGHT FOR 12-14 PTS??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

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Jeje, that’s because Jamal don’t rarely use the pick and roll, and never passes it back to the guy who set the pick. Al is always open on the pick and rolls with Jamal, yet Jamal ends up forcing a crazy shot in the lane majority of the times. And it was out of the offense.

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BTW the Heimlich Maneuver is injured and will be out for several games…Sund you are incredible dude???????????????????????????? 31 yrs of crap………………….

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Great trade for the Hawks. Hinrich is a beast defensively. And who cares about the 1st pick? LD certainly doesn’t. We have a vet Coach, that only likes to play vets. It’s obvious. Congrats to JC2. Now he can play next to Wall, and make a fierce backcourt combo. But LD wasn’t going to play him. Just not LD’s way.

The guy hates Teague, and Teagues a good player, getting better.

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How can Jordan be missed, when Drew gave him no burn, and never intended on burning him..Yes the guy is going to be a star, but he wasnt going to get an opportunity to do so..I hate we gave up a first though.Prospects are always welcomed in my book and maybe we could have gotten that 7 foot kid from Brazil and stuffed him with whoppers and Big Macs.Overall we lost the future but upgraded for a year or 2.I can accept that bcuz this core is not moving till at least Marvin& Josh contract is up

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Hinrich – 2nd Team all NBA def.

Olympic team member

Averages more steals per game than: DRose, Devin Harris, Chauncey Billups, or Jameer Nelson. Averages more steals per minute than DWade.

The dude is good. Deadly midrange jumper, and 3 point shot.

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You will all be mad when Jordan plays 35 minutes on that awful team and scores points. That’s all he is godo for

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ONE AND DONE…

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Exactly, SteveW.

Hinrich will get in a fight with a teammate (Josh soon). This is no longer a joke locker-room with that fat minime

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In this Hinrich trade, I wonder if we could’ve thrown in a major core player and stolen McGee or Blatche from them? Marvin + more picks?

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Why do you guys think Josh and Hinrich will fight?

If anything, Josh will be happy to have someone who brings a similar defensive intensity.

Now, argument over shot selection, I could see.

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I think we could have gotten McGee if Sund was smart enough to do it..

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Lets see what ZAZA, Jamal and our trade exemption will bring.

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Can you really ever think that Orlando will move Howard within the same conference?

Orlando is in trouble…they have to go get him a superstar quickly.

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Didnt mind Bibby being shipped off but Jordan Crawford AND a 1st Round pick?!? I was really excited for Crawford in the future.

Atlanta…Imagine if we could buy alcohol on Sunday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOM_UuQzc0

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“SteveW

February 24th, 2011
11:03 am
Hinrich – 3 point shot at 38.4% is ahead of:DWill, Jennings, Conley, Kidd, Felton, DRose, Lou Williams, Holiday, and Lowry.”

Good find Steve…..I will welcome Hindrich here as a fresh approach…it now depends on whether Larry welcomes him in and gives him quality minutes.

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Im losing confidence in LD, why in the h he continue 2 started that smallish line up with no size in the paint.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Marvin is not a starter everytime he begain the game he become lost out there, bring him off the bench where he is comfortable doing, the same story from LD but do the same thing every game with this ridiculas smallish line up.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

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Josh – Stop playing him at SF. Just stop. Marvin is a better defender at the position and he should be the one standing there for the corner 3, not Josh. Josh should be around the rim as much as humanly possible. 2:1 ratio of Post plays vs jump shots, 10 post ups and 5 jumpers is fine.

Al – Toughen up until we get you some help man. You seem soft since the Blake ordeal, hurt? You are our best center versus the entirety of the league save the few true centers, and even against most true centers, with your quickness and ability to score, you are better than Collins. (I like collins too). Demand the ball in the post when things are going wrong. We’re going to have to limit your time at the 4 back to what it was, alongside whoever subs for Josh, because unfortunately, you at the 4 and Josh at the 3 does not work.

JJ – Tell someone if you’re hurt, PLEASE.You like to play hard and you don’t like to lose. What’s gotten into you lately? Please revert back to your old, seflish self, passing up open 3’s to let Josh shoot them instead is ludicrous. Maybe you should cut out the 3’s altogether and focus on the midrange and post game where you excel. Remember this, if you’re disinterested, it affects everyone on the team.

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A Cleveland reporter doesn’t mention Session as being an untouchable for the Cavs on NBATV.Think we should include him some how in a 3 or 4 team trade that lands us him and a nice Big. the guy went for 20 points and 12 assist last night

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From twitter;

Alex Kennedy: As I wrote yesterday, the Hawks have floated Josh Smith in several trade scenarios to gauge interest. ATL asking for a lot in return though..

I wonder if this rumor is true.

I am okay with trading Josh, especially if we can get a legit Center and filler. But after trading for Hinrich, would Rick make another drastic move? Is there such a trade partner out there?

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Can somebody pull up rebounding #’s say over the past 6 games? Hawks have to be at least minus 50-60 in that stretch?….Getting dismantled on the boards………

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LD have started thinking like woody again a 7man rotation how retarted is that.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

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darrell, that size thing is my biggest crutch with Larry now that Bibster has flown.
Collins played fine the night before in 15 min….me, I wear that guy down til he begs to come out. Last night, 4 min, with Gortat controlling Smoove/Marvin/Al.

Our lineup rotations still have a lot of questions in them….what did Marvin do for 27 min out there? That +8 he registered is a whacked stat? Does that take into account how many offensive rebounds he gave up?

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we need Bob Johnson to buy the Hawks.

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per hoopsworld.com the hawks are trying a 2nd deal with marvin jamal possibly zaza with possibly utah for al jefferson or portland

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watch bibby goto the knicks

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joey dont lie to me, I LOVEEEEE BIG AL JEFFERSON!

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D12
Boss
JSmoove
JJ
DWill

bam, Hawks problems solved perhaps

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“Josh is a better PF than Horford. And Horford is a better C than a PF”

PREACH!

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Rumors are flying on hoopshype that Josh Smith and Zaza is being shopped.

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I’m all for Marvin Williams trade here, for a NEEDED BIG MAN,All we have is BullS*** depth at center,and if we just so happen to luck up the 4 or 5 seed then we will see Howard and the Magic..

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This is the type of toughness this team needs
http://ww.youtube.com/watch?v=dRxZ-6DYJgU

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With the Hawks taking on Hinrich’s $9M contract, it’s highly unlikely we will trade Jamal’s $10.8M expiring contract. His contract is far more valuable to us coming off the books and keeping us under the luxury tax cap, than as a trade chip. With Zaza being held out, it’s almost a certainty he’ll be traded.

With MEvans, Bibby, JoCrawford, and our 1st rd pick already gone, what else can we combine with Zaza to trade? The Hawks willingness to take on Hinrich’s $9M contract, and trade away our 1st rd pick, tells me Sund and the ASG are committed to giving Teague another yr to develop, and that LDrew had better get it done or he’ll join Woody.

We really tightened up our DEF in the 2nd half last night. The trade prevented LDrew from making his favorite stupid move, and that’s putting his 2 biggest DEF liabilities(Bibby/Jamal)on the floor at one time.

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Kenny Smith: “You cannot be scoring 12 points if you’re Joe Johnson”.

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Joe was in beast mode for awhile….bad time to slump

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“Etan has 7 games and 35 minutes to claim this year….isn’t that like $35,000/minute?”

Fun fact: Etan Thomas and Tracy McGrady get paid the same.

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lol@2013

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“I wonder if this rumor is true.

I am okay with trading Josh, especially if we can get a legit Center and filler. But after trading for Hinrich, would Rick make another drastic move? Is there such a trade partner out there?”

I’m sure that tweet will get a ton of attention, especially because it’s Smoove and people go crazy on here any time his name is mentioned, but it sounds to me like they were doing due diligence. My guess is the Hawks’ asking price is too high for anyone and they won’t end up finding a trade involving him that they think will improve the Hawks.

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Not to get too far ahead…but if that happens….that would slide Smoove down to the 3 permanently. Will that work???

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someone point me in the direction of this rumor, i’m quite good at finding these things and cannot locate it

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time to free up cap space for D12

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So Al Jefferson is a championship move? Nope.

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Smoove for Caron Butler would be the worst trade in the history of…wait…no there have been worse.

But it would be enough for me to start exploring the possibility of a class action lawsuit against ASG for fraudulently pretending to try and get better.

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Al Jefferson is another PF playing out of position at center. He’s a good player, but the Hawks have bigger needs. I also don’t see anything about this rumor anywhere.

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get a job jeje

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GO BAMA

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ASG probably paid MC a couple bucks to claim that Zaza was “held out” of the game. He was probably late getting to the arena because of an emergency Fashion Shoe.

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Apparently Reggie Evans is available. Considering the Hawks’ problems rebounding, he would probably be a pretty useful addition, not to mention he could teach Smoove about the finer points of nut-grabbing.

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we need a big goon like Reggie.. im all for him.

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I see some folks just love to hate.

I love how people talk about our need for better interior defense, but then point to Josh Smith as the guy with the problem.

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lol

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laughable aint it Wabe.

Al might be the worse defensive big outside of ZaZa.

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The Hawks are obviously shopping ZaZa and Marvin with Crawford as bait for something decent.

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ZaZa’s DNP was because he could not find the right socks to go with his warmups, so he refused to play.

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that would be a beastly front court though.

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ZaZa DNP because his backne hemorrhaged and he couldn’t stop the bleeding

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Attention Everyone: Mr. Phil likes to make himself feel better by discouraging others. Hey, Mr. Phil a little tip here, people that are on the blog just enjoy speculating. Sorry, you didn’t notice that before.

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@Najeh…the LOL was for your 1:16pm post

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Najeh- you really want Reggie Evans? How is that an upgrade from Twin?

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Excuse me,

1 hour and 40 minutes to go!

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“you really want Reggie Evans? How is that an upgrade from Twin?”

Evans is a fantastic rebounder. Twin is a mediocre rebounder. They wouldn’t necessarily play the same role as each other.

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Clocks ticking…

Don’t think anything’s gonna happen.

It’s also sad because regardless of what they do today, they’re 2-3 steps behind, not one. So, even if they pulled off a trade to get a big, we’re still short a wingman and a bench.

The way Sund’s trying to make moves, without including members of this “core”, makes it difficult to really make anything meaningful happen. The only way to improve across the board is to dangle Al/Josh around. There’s no other way around it.

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Rockets and T-Wolves are trying to trade Jonny Flynn + spare parts for Aaron Brooks + spare parts.

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Can we do ZaZa for Turiaf? Would NYK be that dumb? haha

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Daniel:

Doesn’t my mistrust of ASG count as speculation? I don’t work for them so I would think so.

My comments are meant to enlighten the people on this blog that are in the same position I was in. Coming to these blogs and exchanging recommendation after recommendation only to see the Hawks get worse and worse.

When the whole world spends years telling pointing out the obvious and you go in the opposite direction, I gotta believe you are doing it on purpose.

So abandon hope everyone and join me in the movement to get new ownership in this town. Because ASG is clearly and deliberately clueless.

(The above statements are null and void if and when the Hawks make the Eastern Conference championships)

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“Najeh if you are giving up Powell and Thomas for Evans ok, but I don’t know if I would swap Crawford for Barbosa.”

The idea behind the Jamal trades I keep posting is that Jamal is one good bench player, but his salary is large enough that he can be traded for two good bench players. Barbosa can provide a major chunk of the scoring Jamal provides, and Evans can provide useful minutes on the boards unlike Powell and Etan who provide nothing. The Hawks need depth, and trading one contributor for two contributors helps in that regard.

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Ra’mon

February 24th, 2011
11:49 am

“Jeje, you say Josh doesn’t like to be told what to do, but he’s always looking to experienced players and trainers to coach him up with his OWN money. You say trade Josh for a C. But do you realize there are only 5 centers in the league who average more rebounds per game than Josh, and three of them are Al, Dwight, and Duncan, and the other two are Jefferson and Tyson (neither are available). After Josh, the next closest center in rebounds is Hibbert, who only averages 7 rebounds a game. The Lakers are the only other team besides the Hawks who have two players in the top 13 players in the league in rebounding. So what ever it is that you think you’re getting in a center by trading Josh, you’re truly misleading yourself.

Now if you would’ve said trade Josh for D. Williams or Chris Paul, no one would be able to argue with something like that. Yet the fact still remains, that Josh is a better PF than Horford. And Horford is a better C than a PF. Horford is in the top 4-5 centers in the league. Yet, Horford wouldn’t be in the top 8 PF’s in the league because of his inability to create his own shot. What the Hawks need is someone like Dalembert or Wallace who can come off the bench and still grab 6-8 rebounds in 22 minutes per game. The starting front court has never been the problem, other than Horford crying about playing C. Do you remember just last season, when Horford and Josh DOMINATED Gasol and the Lakers’ front court? Do you remember how Josh is the only Hawk who has success against Garnett on the defensive end?

Also, the biggest problem with Horford playing the PF position, is he still rarely posts up even at the 4. On Tuesday, how many times did Horford try to post up Gasol? He still does the same thing, and that’s stay at the top of the key and wait for some one to draw his man off of him, giving him an open look. The problem with that formula is, sure it helps Horford scores, but that doesn’t help anyone else on the team. When Josh or Joe posts up, they’re both doing so, while trying to force a double team. When Josh or Joe faces up someone and attempts to drive by their opponent, the defense reacts and rotates. That creates open shots for their teammates. Horford is an excellent mid range shooter, who makes you think his offense is really better than what it is. In all of these games that Horford has had only two games two games where he had 10 free throw attempts (Minnesota and Philadelphia- as a C, no games as a PF). In the games that Horford has played PF more, he’s only averaging 1.9 free throw attempts a game (compared to Josh’s 4 per game – which is low also, but still twice as many as Al). There’s no purpose of moving Horford to PF instead of C, if he’s still not going to be physical on offense.”

This is the best post I have read in a while. We are much more effective right now with Al at the 5 and Josh at the 4. Collins brings nothing other than saying he is seven feet tall. Al needs to realize that he is an above average PF and a great C. I don’t care that he is undersized. Moving Josh from the 4 really hurts us too.

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im sure the above is contingent upon Josh Smith, his best friend, remaining in a Hawk uni..

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Emir I doubt Prince comes back,Pistons like Jerebko alot more than,so marvin might be a backup where he belongs,and Daye would not see the floor anyway..Similiar to our Jordan Crawford situation I think..T Mac isn’t coming back after his performance and age,so he wants a ring and feels like he can go to Miami and contribute possibly.Memphis could slide a 2nd to Detroit..

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for those that think Dwight wont come here.. think again.

natives from my generation are very loyal to the city. presented w/ the opportunity to come and play here, im sure Dwight would jump on it. especially if he fills he’d be the missing link. Dwight here will give him an equal shot @ a championship as any other city.

somewhere i know Cam is wishing he could get in that Dome on Sunday’s.

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I thought Evans was hurt? If he is healthy then I’m all for it if it means no more Zaza

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WHY DOES HALF OUR ROSTER CONSIST OF BIGS WHO DON’T/CAN’T PLAY?

WHERE WAS JOSH POWELL LAST NIGHT?

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So…with less than 90-minutes remaining until the trade deadline, Zaza is still a Hawk? No one seems to be posting anything close to legit.

Have serious doubts that the Hawks will win again this season.

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“natives from my generation are very loyal to the city. presented w/ the opportunity to come and play here, im sure Dwight would jump on it. especially if he fills he’d be the missing link. Dwight here will give him an equal shot @ a championship as any other city. ”

No doubt. If the Hawks can show Dwight a reasonable chance at winning a title here in the summer of 2012, I think he’d give the Hawks serious consideration.

No way that happens without Joe’s contract being unloaded at some point before then though. If the Hawks want a serious shot at Dwight, they have to get rid of Joe and Marvin somehow and go into that summer with Smoove, Horford, and expiring contracts on the payroll.

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“Gonna miss Mo and Bibby in a Hawks uniform?” Just like a dog misses fleas. lol!

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maybe we should try to trade marvin for gwallace — not that they’d ever go for it

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Wade did’nt go to Chicago.

LeBron did’nt stay in Cleveland.

Bosh did’nt go to Dallas.

Melo went to New York

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We can’t get Kaman for Marvin?

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one hour left everyone seems to be stopping all talks of trades..

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“Wade did’nt go to Chicago.

LeBron did’nt stay in Cleveland.

Bosh did’nt go to Dallas.”

those guys arent from my city.

again. the operative terms here were, “(natives)from my generation”. sure.. they are from my generation, however, not from here. Atlanta will crown you.. you will be the King of the city.. if worthy. Michael Vick, was well on his way to that and still holds that truth in most circles. this is an urban culture that caters to celebrity. if you born and bred.. and bring home the hardware… you can have it all. not to mention growing up, traveling, telling people you from Atlanta.. and they have something slick or stupid to say b/c they dont know anything about it. D12.. Josh… Joe puts Atlanta basketball on the map.

not only did those guys not feel that connection w/ their respective cities, the situation wasnt right. there is a BIG GLARING HOLE for one Dwight Howard. he fits right in here. dont be surprised that in the years to come, that Shaq effect is in play. whatever conference is home to the big man.. is the conference that will prove dominant.

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but if we were able to package Al, at that point a 3 time allstar, for Dwight. so Orl isnt left w/ nothing.

im sure that fan base will rally around their beloved Gator coming home.

they lost the greatest big of all time (having not seen Bill, Wilt, Kareem), they can do it again.

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That GM that said he would make a deal for Zaza yeasterday must’ve sobered up. lol! And LD held him out. LMFAO!

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“yesterday”

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lol@terrell

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Wade did’nt go to Chicago.. i wouldnt either w/ all those problems he has there..

Melo went to New York.. same type feeling of entitlement. though he came of age in Bmore

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i think it closed down..

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Najeh – That Flynn/Brooks trade said that one of those pieces may be moving also after the trade. I wonder if we may be in on that action?

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I never noticed how bad the Jazz roster looks without Deron Williams. There isn’t anybody on that team I would want. Jefferson included.

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LMAO!! I would help Zaza pack his bags,drive him to the airport, and kiss him good bye

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Cavs are about to trade Anthony Parker to the Celtics for Marquis Daniels, who is out for the season.

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Could we at least give Zaza away so it eliminates Drew from playing him?

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man..
pfft.

teams out east loading up. calicos.. choppers.. desert eagles.

we go get it a 38 snub nose. smh

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“I wonder if we’ll be after one of these guys who gets bought out?”

Hawks would have to go into the luxury tax to sign anyone who gets bought out. I doubt it. Not sure that TJ Ford or Troy Murphy really fills the Hawks’ most pressing needs anyway.

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Heard TJ Ford is going to the Heat after he is bought out also.

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We need an actual Center and only come up with Hilton Armstrong..Whoop Dee D*** Doo..

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Guys,..trade deadline ends at 6pm ET…its 3pm PT….WE STILL HAVE TIME TO TRADE ZAZA!!!!

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One team I’m really surprised to see so inactive on the trade market is Orlando. I can’t believe they are seriously considering going the rest of the season with no backup to Dwight. If there is one team that would be desperate enough to take on Zaza and give the Hawks something valuable in return, I’d think it would be them.

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Trade deadline ends in exactly 30 mins.

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Something like this for example. A team would have to be really, really desperate to trade for Zaza, but Orlando strikes me as possibly being that team.

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Trade deadline ENDS AT 6PM (ET) GUYS!! NOT 3PM (PT)!!

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Ms Dee:

Trade deadline is 3 p..Est according to nba.com and espn.com

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Elle Duncan (Marvin Williams’s Girlfriend) from the Frank & Wanda morning show this morning said 6pm(ET) and 3pm(PT) on her sports write-up this morning. Someone is wrong I guess..I hope it isnt’s Elle since we haven’t gotten rid of Zaza yet!!

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Yeah just about to say the same thing to Mrs. Dee it’s 3 ET not PT.

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I’m going to take the word of NBA.com and ESPN.com over a woman that gives Marvin Williams some play.

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as if it already wasnt, our game in Oakland just got a lot tougher if the Jamison deal goes through..

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excuse seventeen minutes

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After all the speculation, we walk away from all of this with Bibby/Evans/JC2/1st round pick gone and we add Hilton Armstrong and Kirk Hinrich.

So, not all is bad, Bibby and Evans are gone. But, nothing that really shakes things up as much as they needed to be.

Horford/Pachulia/Collins/Etan
J.Smith/Josh Powell
Feathers/Damien Wilkins
JJ/Jamal
Hinrich/Teague

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Ellllllllllllle No…she doesn’t know sports.

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@Mr.Phil

LOL!!!! Now thats funny!!

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Paul Milsap

I would trade josh for Paul Milsap and CJ miles in a heart beat.

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12 min left.man the hawks are done dealing.it hurts because we weak at the SF position now.Damien can’t score man hes a liability

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I’d personally start Teague at the point.

I’d go with Teague/JJ/Damien/J.Smith/Horford and then bring Hinrich/Jamal/Marvin off the bench. The bench wouldn’t look too bad. Teague didn’t look too bad in the starting role last night, he could buy us minutes at the begining of games.

This would also keep JC1 out of that PG role.

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thang God,nba tv is about to say what they think about this bad trade

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typo “thank”

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Michael, isn’t this your time to shine? Give us something? Hello?

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Mike Bibby looking for a buyout.I guarentee you he’s going to the Heat

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Big Perk to the Thunder for Jeff Green!?

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The last 3 min, I guess, will tell ALL OR NOTHING!!

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Rockets chomping for a deal, but my guess is Sund overvalues our core.

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WojYahooNBA: Houston has traded Shane Battier to Memphis for Thabeet and a first-round pick, source tells Y!

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I would have loved Perkins. Shows you how bad Marvin’s contract is. Nobody wants him.

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If I were the hawks I’d get in on the Dwight Howard Sweeps they would have the best way to get him since

A. Atlanta grew up here

B. Best friend and also pro b-ball player Josh Smith is here

Plus we might be able to also get CP3 here you never know might have to give up Joe Johnson, but hey D12 plus CP3 dump off Joe I’ll go for it lol.

Still being realistic knowing the ASKGB yeah they wouldn’t try to do this plus I doubt it would happen still.

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Its over..WOW!! Celtics coming out the East

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Times up and Hawks fail to do more damage

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Well, that’s it!!

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Can’t believe that’s all it took to get Battier and he isn’t here in Atlanta. Sund is a f’ing bad joke.

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Nothing yet about the hawks guys…..

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Still a chance if we were talking about a deal and the league kne about it

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knew*

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I bet thats’ how the ASG are seeing it. They got a PG (defensive-minded) and a Center that’s 1% betta than Zaza and Collins put together…wow??

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I dont see how that trade helps Boston. I have’nt seen Jeff Green play much, but I have seen Perkins. OKC just got so much better…..

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Rod from College Park

February 24th, 2011
3:04 pm

Perkins was available, and we got Hilton Armstrong? LOL

……

lmao

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LMAO…Perking musta slapped Doc Rivers or something. I just don’t see the benefit of that trade for Boston with the O’Neal’s are on the bench sharing stories with each other while nursing injuries.

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Need to get up to a game just to wave around a big ‘Screw Sund and the Atlanta Spirit Group’ poster around.

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it helps boston because they got kristic to help out shaq and j.oneal down low

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8 mins after 3, and still no more news for us!!! Dang!!

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Cunningham fed us lies.

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hawk gm what ajoke 11111

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Evan Dunlap: OKC stocking up on Cs! @Adrian Wojnarowski says they’ve acquired Nazr Mohammed from Charlotte for Mo Pete’s expiring and D.J. White

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuQgaFAa

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Really, we wouldn’t get much for Zaza….my interest was to see if Sund would actually move the mistake of 2005 or Josh.

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Section 303

February 24th, 2011
3:08 pm
Hawks are the worst team in the league to be a fan of.

Co-sign that right there. It is extremely frustrating following this team.

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Oklahoma City has acquired center Nazr Mohammed from Charlotte for D.J. White and Mo Peterson, source tells Y! Sports.

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I’d hate to face OKC with our small frontcourt….

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Well, at least we DID make a trade!!

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Charlotte’s Gerald Wallace has been traded to Portland, a league source tells Y!

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Man, the Celtics are going to have to depend big time on the O’Neals to get to the Finals. Green is a backup in Boston now. Kristic isn’t going to replace Perkins.
Bad move for them, and I bet Miami likes to see Perkins gone now. OKC might make some noise now.

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Not over yet Ms. Dee. All you have to do is inform the League before 3′ oclock. Hopefully Sund is working out the details as we speak. lol!

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When Jason Kapono gets bought out,the hawks better make a run at him

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Wabe
February 24th, 2011
3:13 pm

Co-sign that right there. It is extremely frustrating following this team.

As frustrating as it is to be a Hawks fan, I don’t know that we’re any worse off than fans of the Wolves, the Clippers or the Raptors. And possibly the Nets, if the Russian can’t convince anyone to come play for him.

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Sorry..Gerald Wallace not Ben!

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No, Perkins Agent and himelf just flatly turned down a contract extension that Boston offered him recently. So, without any player commitment? You just might get traded now-a-days.

There is NO loyalty in Basketball! LOL!
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So, did Sund slide an envelope under the door right @ 3PM?
Anything trickling in here?

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So the C’s end up with Jeff Green after all. He was traded for Ray Allen on draft day. lol!

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I would have loved Brooks

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Nazr and Perkins down low, with Durant and Westbrook outside, have to make OKC a very formidable challenger to the Lakers.

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DrMaryb- Good Point. And on the Heat blogs, they are salivating going after Perkins as a FA

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I have nothing to contribute to the blog right now but my frustration. Why can’t we at least get a tweet or a 10-word post letting us know what’s going on – if anything?!?

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DET and CLE negotiated down to wire on a Rip Hamilton trade, but fell apart when Rip wouldn’t accept buyout terms with Cavs, sources say.

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Sund really don’t seem too bright. He is in over his head.

Being a Hawks fan SUCKS.

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Ra’mon – That’s true. But I think their chances of winning a 7 game series just got alot better. For alot of years really with Perkins, he’s still young. But his knee is giving him problems right now.

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“Rod – Dragic and a 1st pick. And the Suns 1st pick figures to be alot better than ours. We are currently slotted to draft #22″

Ok, that makes me feel better.

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Memphis got Battier for Thabeet and a draft pick? Wow!

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Mayo going to Indiana for McRobets and a 1st Rounder.

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Steve, you’re right, they just got better. I just don’t see them sneaking up on the Lakers like they did last year. But I do think they can beat the Spurs, but not Dallas or LAL

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I’m *under my desk* laughing at the comments on this blog for the last few hours….

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@SekouSmithNBA Lol, Did Danny Ainge and Otis Smith, set Sund’s alarm clock to 3 Pacific Time?

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Adrian Wojnarowski: Boston has traded Semih Erdan and Luke Harangody to Cleveland for a second-round pick, source tells Y! now

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuUxwSjn

Guys theres still hope for us!! Lets get it!

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Boston has traded Semih Erdan and Luke Harangody to Cleveland for a second-round pick, source tells Y!

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Wtf is boston doing….they’re giving away all their Centers………

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Ra’mon, I think you have to say Silas. LD is about to go on a major, major losing streak. This season is going to get very ugly. Hawks are done.

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From Chad Ford

“Flood of deals happening at the wire … Gerald Wallace to POR, Battier to MEM, Thabeet to HOU, Brooks to PHX … & we’re hearing more …”

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Ra’mon – They’ve got to beat the Heat to it. The Heat want him bad

And the Magic want Murphy bad

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@Trojan I have seen no evidence that LD can coach.Period.

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Holly MacKenzie: In the past 20 minutes, Boston has confused the damn hell out of me.

Amen.

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Wabe – I wouldn’t have minded grabbing Kurt Thomas to play inside for us in the playoffs. He really held the Bulls together while Noah and Boozer were out.

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Hawks should’ve traded Marvin and JC for Roy and Oden. Throw in the towel this season and come back next season with backcourt of Roy, JJ. And front court of Josh, Al, and Oden coming off the bench.

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Mayo traded to the Pacers

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Section 303

February 24th, 2011
3:34 pm

“Mr. Phil, I think if you would have read Chad Ford’s tweet a little further you would have found this:

We’re still hearing more…if you’re a Hawks fan, go f##k yourself. Your team is done. And, their season might as well be, too.”

LMAO

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Collison.. Mayo.. Granger.. Tyler.. Hoya..

pretty nice.

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east getting solid.

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Bibby may get bought out. He already has an issue in Wash. From ESPN

Also, Mike Bibby can’t wear number ten, which has been really important to him. Issue.)

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Alex Kennedy: Mike Bibby will seek a buyout from the Washington Wizards, according to a source close to the point guard. Twitter

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Ra’mon, that’s a fair point.

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bibby goin to the heat.stamp on that

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Cav’s done dealing. No Sessions or Harris for us.

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Damn, Im late. lol!

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Michael has to be the worst beat writer in the league. Literally nothing from him.

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Bucks are out…..Hawks are running out of teams to trade with …LOL

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Let’s just hope Zaza feels hurt and embarrass that no one wanted him, knowing that he was purposely set out the other night due to trade rumors. He should have the attitude Josh Smith had when he didnt get the All-Star vote by the coaches. Lets just hope this lights a fire under his butt!! I know it would me, if I was him!!

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Mayo might not be traded.. deal might have missed deadline.

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@WallaceHeatNBA Got better: Houston, OKC, ATL, Indy. POR. Got worse: Mem, BOS, CHA. Treaded water: UTA, NY, NJ

Sike

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Wabe
February 24th, 2011
3:45 pm

Probably aren’t any updates to report on.

Even if that’s the case, an update like “Hawks are done dealing” or “Hawks were working on several deals but weren’t able to pull anything together before the deadline” would be nice.

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There ya go.

Done deal.

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Wabe, it doesn’t matter if there are no deals to report on.

This is one of the biggest days of the year for NBA fans and it’d be nice if your beat-writer acted like he cared about informing us about what management was doing.

MC has already told us he has no emotional connection to the team and just reports the news. Well if that’s the case then go work for the Associated Press

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i cant beleive the hawks couldnt get any other deal done!!!!!!

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i cant beleive the hawks couldnt get any other deal done!!!!!!

With the way this team is run, it’s a shock they did anything.

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Portland Trade

Priz(expiring contract), 2 1st for Gerald Wallace….Wow. He is the SF version of KirkH.

The Blazers gave-up a 7ft with and expiring contract….We gave up and Old, slow, Super slow, out of shap PG, with 6mil due next year, for about the same.

The cost is high, when winning is important.

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WE COULD’VE GOTTEN BRAD MILLER FOR ZAZA? WTF

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WHY IS THE TRADE DEADLINE SO DAMN EARLY. THAT MEANS IT’S NOON ON THE WEST COAST. PUSH IT BACK TO MIDNIGHT

JESUS

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From the one and only MC himself, calm down people we aren’t done yet.

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IS IT POSSIBLE THIS LATE THERE’S STILL A TRADE FLOATING AROUND PENDING NBA APPROVAL? I KNOW WE DIDNT MAKE A TRADE BUT ITD BE COOL

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Rumor, Brad Miller for Zaza….don’t count on it though….Rockets don’t gain with that one.

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“Lmao @ Hawks fan now directing their anger towards MC.”

lol..

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OJ Mayo going to the Pacers seems like the Hawks did not want to do lot to create a buzz for Atlanta i bet the Jazz would have taken JC2 and Jeff Teague for Derron Williams .

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what’s clear is…these players are not desired by other teams!!! their contracts are not desired by other teams. but we all knew that anyway!!!

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Brad F-in Miller..

ppffffffffffffft. gimmie a break.

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Scummingham doesnt care about teh fans!!!! Man!!!!

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NCBravesFan -

He said in the blog he was carrying his own bags. Unless he aggravated it worse since then, I don’t see how a shoulder injury would allow him to carry suitcases but not type on a computer.

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hawks mannnnn their gm anooys me

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“Kirk Hinrich” LOL I’m sure Phillips will be filled to capacity now.

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Who the fluck is Hilton Armstrong??? A Porn Star?

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KevinM- LMAO!

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