Atlanta Hawks: Suns 105, Hawks 97

Phoenix–The news of the trade shouldn’t overshadow the fact that the Hawks are suddenly reeling. That’s three straight Ls and five of six with Golden State (tough matchup), Portland (tough team) and Denver (tough building even without Melo) still to go on this trip.

  • Zaza was held out as the Hawks continued trade discussions. I’m thinking any swap would be big for big but no word yet on the details of the teams/players involved.
  • But first some more reaction to the trade that did go down. . . .
  • L.D. said the Hawks had been calling around on point guards for the last couple weeks.
  • “As everybody knows we’ve been searching for a point guard for a while, somebody who can come in and run this club,” he said. “Not saying that Mike didn’t go a good job, but there just comes a point where a change has to take place. We as an organization felt like it was that time.”
  • L.D. on Hinrich: “Kirk brings such a wealth of toughness at that position. He’s a heady guy, he’s a smart guy. All the intangibles you are looking for he brings to the table.”
  • Jamal: “It’s tough to tell now [how the trade will work]. Mike was the leader at point guard for a while. Jordan has a bright future. Mo is just solid, gives you defense and 3-point shooting. But I played with Kirk Hinrich [in Chicago] and I know what he’s about.”
  • Bibby was a popular teammate. He has a goofy personality and saw it as his job to keep the team loose (though I think the Hawks could end up benefiting from Hinrich’s more serious approach).
  • It’s a business, of course, but there was a real sense of personal loss in Atlanta’s locker room.
  • “Any time you make trades, it’s always tough, especially when you grow close and attached to players,” Drew said. “But that’s just the nature of this business. It just comes with the territory.”
  • Bibby, Mo and JC2 were informed they might be part of a trade and stayed behind at the team’s hotel. Word trickled through the rest of the team but players weren’t told of the pending deal until just before game time
  • Al: “It’s just tough for us right before the game to get this news. It’s kind of not unexpected since we’d heard but to hear it just actually happened . . .”
  • Joe: “We let three good guys go who I had become really good friends with. But at the same time we understand the business aspect and this is the profession we chose knowing that trades happen. You have to deal with it. Getting Kirk and Armstrong is definitely going to contribute to what we are trying to do. Kirk is very defensive-minded and a guy who can really knock down the open shot and penetrate and make plays for others as well. I think he is going to be beneficial for us.”
  • Moving Jordan and the first-round pick is the latest indication the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future. I’m sure opinions vary on that approach among my blog people but, as I always say, the Hawks will be judged on what happens this postseason.
  • Al: “Jordan, as short as time he was here, we know he has a lot of potential.”
  • Drew on Armstrong: “He’s a big body. He’s athletic. He bangs. I like the fact he’s a guy who plays hard. You can’t have enough type of those guys.”
  • Josh on Armstrong: “I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit. When we played against them he was a effective in a couple of games.”
  • Now on to the game . . .
  • The Hawks rallied from 18 down to tie it at 92-92 with five minutes left. The Suns closed them out by winning the kind of possession-by-possession sequences in which the Hawks tends to falter. Not a good idea to get into a shootout with the Suns, who made 10 of 14 shots in the fourth.
  • Perhaps it would have been different at the end without the big deficit or a back-to-back but it’s an L all the same.
  • “It’s tough to spot a team 18 points and having to fight back, especially a team like Phoenix,” Drew said. “They shoot the ball so well, particularly from the 3-point line (13 for 26). We exerted a lot of energy to get back and I thought our guys wore down at the end.”
  • The Hawks started switching on every screen, an approach that they theoretically should be able to scrap with Hinrich on the floor.
  • “We couldn’t get [stops],” Josh said. “We ended up switching. Nash is a smart point guard. He knew where the mismatches were. Tip your hat to Channing Frye, he hit some tough shots on Damien. Damien was all over him but when you are 6-10, 6-11 you get that ball in position you want it’s kind of hard to block the shot.”
  • Jamal’s scoring and Damien’s defense helped the Hawks get back in it. Jamal made five straight shots but didn’t have an attempt from 6:53 of the fourth until a meaningless layup in the final seconds. “I’m getting back to being me, for sure,” he said.
  • Teague got his second career start was noticeably more decisive in driving the ball. Finishing was another matter though he still was 3 for 6 from the field and 3 for 3 from the line.
  • “I thought he came out aggressive in attack mode and used his speed and quickness,” Drew said. “We need that. I thought he did a tremendous job breaking the defense down and getting to the basket. That’s the way he has to play. Don’t worry about turning the basketball over, just keep the pressure on the defense.”
  • After 10 nights on the road I’m officially on the injured list (shoulder) after a bench press mishap in the gym yesterday. It’s after the All-Star break so I’ve got to push through it. Hurts like hell to lug around bags but I refuse to take the L of getting on one of those old folks carts at the airport tomorrow.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

802 comments Add your comment

bigdave

February 24th, 2011
2:20 pm

man..
pfft.

teams out east loading up. calicos.. choppers.. desert eagles.

we go get it a 38 snub nose. smh

John

February 24th, 2011
2:20 pm

Why all the hate on Zaza here. I know he is not great, but it is not like we are going to get much by trading a second string center. The way to get a difference maker is to trade Jamal, since I think he is gone after this year anyway.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 24th, 2011
2:21 pm

“I wonder if we’ll be after one of these guys who gets bought out?”

Hawks would have to go into the luxury tax to sign anyone who gets bought out. I doubt it. Not sure that TJ Ford or Troy Murphy really fills the Hawks’ most pressing needs anyway.

terrell

February 24th, 2011
2:22 pm

I’d take Shellhead over Zaza.

SteveW

February 24th, 2011
2:24 pm

Heard TJ Ford is going to the Heat after he is bought out also.

terrell

February 24th, 2011
2:25 pm

Zaza should be INCLUDED in a deal. We all know we want get much for him by himself. Maybe a Big Mac and fries.

Shake Something

February 24th, 2011
2:27 pm

We need an actual Center and only come up with Hilton Armstrong..Whoop Dee D*** Doo..

Carlos

February 24th, 2011
2:28 pm

I dont know what I’d do without Michael Cunningham for my Atlanta Hawks news. All these instant twitter updates all day and the new blog up keeping us informed on what exactly is going on. It’s only 30 minutes before the deadline, and his latest Hawks related tweet was 12-14 hours ago talking about a Zaza trade and expecting new players today.

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:29 pm

Guys,..trade deadline ends at 6pm ET…its 3pm PT….WE STILL HAVE TIME TO TRADE ZAZA!!!!

Ken Strickland

February 24th, 2011
2:29 pm

I wonder if we could interest the Warriors in a modified version of a trade suggestion I offered earlier? We’d send them JSmith($11.7M) and Zaza($4.25M) for SCurry($2.91M), ABiedrins($9M)and DGadzuric($7.24M). We could use our $3.63M trade exception to cover SCurry’s salary, and the combined salaries of the other players involved matches.

With these players, we could really create some matchup problems.

SF-MWilliams, PF-AHorford, C-ABiedrins, SG-JJ and PG-SCurry, or
SF-JJ, PF-AHorford, C-ABiedrins, SG-KHinrich and PG-SCurry
The last lineup would leave a bench of PG-JTeague, SG-JCrawford, SF-MWilliams, PF-JPowell, C’s-DGadzuric/JCollins, and SG/SF-DWilkins.

What do you think?

Najeh Davenpoop

February 24th, 2011
2:30 pm

One team I’m really surprised to see so inactive on the trade market is Orlando. I can’t believe they are seriously considering going the rest of the season with no backup to Dwight. If there is one team that would be desperate enough to take on Zaza and give the Hawks something valuable in return, I’d think it would be them.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 24th, 2011
2:30 pm

ZaZa’s original restaurant ENO? (Is it?) Anyway, it has never closed.
ZaZa opened a second restaurant with The Chef as his partner, I think, and that restaurant was closed in less than 6 Months.

A bleeding – money investment, given the failed economy was not very prudent. Restaurants always lose a lot money in the beginning. Always a risky investment IMHO.
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Oh well, will they make another move by 3 PM?

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:31 pm

Trade deadline ends in exactly 30 mins.

SteveW

February 24th, 2011
2:31 pm

KenS – Gadzuric already got traded to the Nets

Najeh – ESPN? said that Orlando was putting all of their eggs in Troy Murphy’s basket

Najeh Davenpoop

February 24th, 2011
2:33 pm

Something like this for example. A team would have to be really, really desperate to trade for Zaza, but Orlando strikes me as possibly being that team.

Wabe

February 24th, 2011
2:34 pm

is there any noise on the hawks front about *anything* happening…

i haven’t heard or read anything online about any talks with anybody…

i haven’t even heard about the al jefferson rumor that some were talking about earlier.

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:34 pm

Trade deadline ENDS AT 6PM (ET) GUYS!! NOT 3PM (PT)!!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 24th, 2011
2:35 pm

Troy Murphy is not a center though. He’s a stretch forward, basically a better rebounding version of Rashard Lewis. They can’t play him against Perkins or Noah or Andrew Bynum.

Mr.Phil

February 24th, 2011
2:35 pm

Ms Dee:

Trade deadline is 3 p..Est according to nba.com and espn.com

Najeh Davenpoop

February 24th, 2011
2:36 pm

NBA.com says 3 PM eastern. Sorry MsDee. I wish Sund had 3 more hours to dump Zaza too.

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:38 pm

Elle Duncan (Marvin Williams’s Girlfriend) from the Frank & Wanda morning show this morning said 6pm(ET) and 3pm(PT) on her sports write-up this morning. Someone is wrong I guess..I hope it isnt’s Elle since we haven’t gotten rid of Zaza yet!!

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:40 pm

Lakers have’nt made any moves either. Suprise, Suprise?

Ray

February 24th, 2011
2:40 pm

Yeah just about to say the same thing to Mrs. Dee it’s 3 ET not PT.

Wabe

February 24th, 2011
2:41 pm

Well, from the looks of it, nothings happening.

Which means, we’re stuck with what we have, which isn’t going anywhere.

Carlos

February 24th, 2011
2:41 pm

I’m going to take the word of NBA.com and ESPN.com over a woman that gives Marvin Williams some play.

Mr.Phil

February 24th, 2011
2:42 pm

MsDee:

Check the countdown clock on nba.com. Last check it said thirteen minutes.It might not be until later today that we hear about all the trades because of how long it takes to process paper work and etcetera.

bigdave

February 24th, 2011
2:42 pm

as if it already wasnt, our game in Oakland just got a lot tougher if the Jamison deal goes through..

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:43 pm

Oh Well, Elle gave me high hopes this morning..dang!! I guess her and Marvin are made for each other, THEY BOTH TELL LIES!!

Mr.Phil

February 24th, 2011
2:43 pm

excuse seventeen minutes

Shake Something

February 24th, 2011
2:43 pm

first round exit here we come..

Wabe

February 24th, 2011
2:44 pm

After all the speculation, we walk away from all of this with Bibby/Evans/JC2/1st round pick gone and we add Hilton Armstrong and Kirk Hinrich.

So, not all is bad, Bibby and Evans are gone. But, nothing that really shakes things up as much as they needed to be.

Horford/Pachulia/Collins/Etan
J.Smith/Josh Powell
Feathers/Damien Wilkins
JJ/Jamal
Hinrich/Teague

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:44 pm

Mr.Phil

February 24th, 2011
2:44 pm

Ellllllllllllle No…she doesn’t know sports.

Wabe

February 24th, 2011
2:45 pm

Forgot about Armstrong…

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:45 pm

@Mr.Phil

LOL!!!! Now thats funny!!

bigdave

February 24th, 2011
2:47 pm

that depth chart actually looks worse. smh.

Rufus1

February 24th, 2011
2:48 pm

Paul Milsap

I would trade josh for Paul Milsap and CJ miles in a heart beat.

Mr.Phil

February 24th, 2011
2:48 pm

@Wabe You are not the first to forget about Armstrong.

man man

February 24th, 2011
2:48 pm

12 min left.man the hawks are done dealing.it hurts because we weak at the SF position now.Damien can’t score man hes a liability

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:49 pm

Sigh 10 mins left….still a chance, but I wont be holding my breath.

Wabe

February 24th, 2011
2:50 pm

I’d personally start Teague at the point.

I’d go with Teague/JJ/Damien/J.Smith/Horford and then bring Hinrich/Jamal/Marvin off the bench. The bench wouldn’t look too bad. Teague didn’t look too bad in the starting role last night, he could buy us minutes at the begining of games.

This would also keep JC1 out of that PG role.

bigdave

February 24th, 2011
2:50 pm

you can still negotiate a deal after 3 as long as there is some framework in place before 3..

man man

February 24th, 2011
2:52 pm

thang God,nba tv is about to say what they think about this bad trade

MsDee

February 24th, 2011
2:52 pm

@Wabe,

That would be great, but LD doesnt have the mind set to trust Teague for some reason.

man man

February 24th, 2011
2:52 pm

typo “thank”

Carlos

February 24th, 2011
2:53 pm

Loyal fans wait desperately because of tweets and blog postings by supposed sources and writers. We think Sund, Gearon Jr. and Cunningham are hard at work as we wait for news, meanwhile they are on the golf course having a great time.

Section 303

February 24th, 2011
2:53 pm

Michael, isn’t this your time to shine? Give us something? Hello?

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:54 pm

Dallas tried to get Prince from Detriot. But the Pistons did’nt allow it.

man man

February 24th, 2011
2:55 pm

Mike Bibby looking for a buyout.I guarentee you he’s going to the Heat

EmirS.

February 24th, 2011
2:55 pm

Whoa…

Perkins going to OKC!!