Atlanta Hawks: Suns 105, Hawks 97
1:17 am February 24, 2011, by Michael Cunningham
Phoenix–The news of the trade shouldn’t overshadow the fact that the Hawks are suddenly reeling. That’s three straight Ls and five of six with Golden State (tough matchup), Portland (tough team) and Denver (tough building even without Melo) still to go on this trip.
- Zaza was held out as the Hawks continued trade discussions. I’m thinking any swap would be big for big but no word yet on the details of the teams/players involved.
- But first some more reaction to the trade that did go down. . . .
- L.D. said the Hawks had been calling around on point guards for the last couple weeks.
- “As everybody knows we’ve been searching for a point guard for a while, somebody who can come in and run this club,” he said. “Not saying that Mike didn’t go a good job, but there just comes a point where a change has to take place. We as an organization felt like it was that time.”
- L.D. on Hinrich: “Kirk brings such a wealth of toughness at that position. He’s a heady guy, he’s a smart guy. All the intangibles you are looking for he brings to the table.”
- Jamal: “It’s tough to tell now [how the trade will work]. Mike was the leader at point guard for a while. Jordan has a bright future. Mo is just solid, gives you defense and 3-point shooting. But I played with Kirk Hinrich [in Chicago] and I know what he’s about.”
- Bibby was a popular teammate. He has a goofy personality and saw it as his job to keep the team loose (though I think the Hawks could end up benefiting from Hinrich’s more serious approach).
- It’s a business, of course, but there was a real sense of personal loss in Atlanta’s locker room.
- “Any time you make trades, it’s always tough, especially when you grow close and attached to players,” Drew said. “But that’s just the nature of this business. It just comes with the territory.”
- Bibby, Mo and JC2 were informed they might be part of a trade and stayed behind at the team’s hotel. Word trickled through the rest of the team but players weren’t told of the pending deal until just before game time
- Al: “It’s just tough for us right before the game to get this news. It’s kind of not unexpected since we’d heard but to hear it just actually happened . . .”
- Joe: “We let three good guys go who I had become really good friends with. But at the same time we understand the business aspect and this is the profession we chose knowing that trades happen. You have to deal with it. Getting Kirk and Armstrong is definitely going to contribute to what we are trying to do. Kirk is very defensive-minded and a guy who can really knock down the open shot and penetrate and make plays for others as well. I think he is going to be beneficial for us.”
- Moving Jordan and the first-round pick is the latest indication the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future. I’m sure opinions vary on that approach among my blog people but, as I always say, the Hawks will be judged on what happens this postseason.
- Al: “Jordan, as short as time he was here, we know he has a lot of potential.”
- Drew on Armstrong: “He’s a big body. He’s athletic. He bangs. I like the fact he’s a guy who plays hard. You can’t have enough type of those guys.”
- Josh on Armstrong: “I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit. When we played against them he was a effective in a couple of games.”
- Now on to the game . . .
- The Hawks rallied from 18 down to tie it at 92-92 with five minutes left. The Suns closed them out by winning the kind of possession-by-possession sequences in which the Hawks tends to falter. Not a good idea to get into a shootout with the Suns, who made 10 of 14 shots in the fourth.
- Perhaps it would have been different at the end without the big deficit or a back-to-back but it’s an L all the same.
- “It’s tough to spot a team 18 points and having to fight back, especially a team like Phoenix,” Drew said. “They shoot the ball so well, particularly from the 3-point line (13 for 26). We exerted a lot of energy to get back and I thought our guys wore down at the end.”
- The Hawks started switching on every screen, an approach that they theoretically should be able to scrap with Hinrich on the floor.
- “We couldn’t get [stops],” Josh said. “We ended up switching. Nash is a smart point guard. He knew where the mismatches were. Tip your hat to Channing Frye, he hit some tough shots on Damien. Damien was all over him but when you are 6-10, 6-11 you get that ball in position you want it’s kind of hard to block the shot.”
- Jamal’s scoring and Damien’s defense helped the Hawks get back in it. Jamal made five straight shots but didn’t have an attempt from 6:53 of the fourth until a meaningless layup in the final seconds. “I’m getting back to being me, for sure,” he said.
- Teague got his second career start was noticeably more decisive in driving the ball. Finishing was another matter though he still was 3 for 6 from the field and 3 for 3 from the line.
- “I thought he came out aggressive in attack mode and used his speed and quickness,” Drew said. “We need that. I thought he did a tremendous job breaking the defense down and getting to the basket. That’s the way he has to play. Don’t worry about turning the basketball over, just keep the pressure on the defense.”
- After 10 nights on the road I’m officially on the injured list (shoulder) after a bench press mishap in the gym yesterday. It’s after the All-Star break so I’ve got to push through it. Hurts like hell to lug around bags but I refuse to take the L of getting on one of those old folks carts at the airport tomorrow.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
802 comments Add your comment
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:18 am
Joe’s hurt, we have to assume this because we know he won’t tell anyone
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:19 am
Keep in mind Al is also hurt, and so is Josh
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:19 am
Really, if Teague can hit an occasional 3 ( as he does), how is he ANY worse than Bibby? He GETS in the lane. Who cares if his shot gets blocked sometimes? He is penetrating the lane
Bamafan
February 24th, 2011
10:19 am
The Hawks continue to make dumb moves, i.e. giving JJ all that money that he didnt earn and now this. My appreciation for this is goign way down. a 1st round draft pick for Hinrich?! Really???
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:22 am
agreed, damien has played well.
you know you’re beast when you defend Gortat and Frye in the paint as an SG
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:22 am
FIRST ROUND PICKS ARE WORTHLESS. THIS YEAR’S DRAFT SUCKS AND THIS TEAM DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO DRAFT
HOW MANY MORE TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:24 am
Hilton Armstrong’s #s are not horrendous if given minutes
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:25 am
There’s no way Joe can be hurt. He said he feels better now than he usually does this time of year.
FIRE DREW
we need another trade
Freshfromatl
February 24th, 2011
10:25 am
Keep preaching JeJe!!
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:26 am
Hilton Armstrong
.
I was watching a wiz game earlier in the year where he did some things that forced me to change the channel. I Don’t expect him to see any pt.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:28 am
Teague and Damien with 20 mpg will do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than what Bib and Mo did
LD just can’t see this
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
10:29 am
PREDICTION: THE HAWKS ARE ONE AND DONE COME PLAYOFFS! BTW,THE KNICKS JUST BECAME A LEGIT CONTENDER.THE HAWKS???NOT…………………………………..YAWN
Ra'mon
February 24th, 2011
10:30 am
http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/24/howard-fed-up/
D12 is pissed!
Huge Trade (dream).
Hawks Get:
D. Howard
J. Redick
H. Turkoglu
Orlando gets
J. Johnson
J. Crawford
M. Williams,
and 2013, 2015 first round draft picks
Ra'mon
February 24th, 2011
10:30 am
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vh5dzc
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:30 am
Did anyone see Jamal call a P&R with Smoove last night and Jamal had this look on his face like “dude come here already”
LOL he looked pissed
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
10:32 am
SUND AND GEARON IF I KNEW 3 WEEKS AGO THAT DWILL WANTED OUT OF UTAH THAT MEANS YOU GUYS KNEW EVEN LONGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU GUYS SHOULD HAVE DONE EVERYTHING IN YOUR POWER TO PULL OFF A TRADE TO BRING THAT DUDE INTO ATLANTA AND MAKE US A CONTENDER….BUT YOU DID NOT…..YOUR NOT INTERESTED IN CONTENDING JUST BY YOUR ACTIONS….
YOU GUYS ARE ONE LOUSY GROUP OF OWNERS/MANAGERS…I COULD SEE YALL GOING BANKRUPT………………………..I DON’T WISH THAT ON ANYBODY BUT YOU GUYS DONT HAVE WHAT IT TAKE TO GET THE JOB DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! KICK ROCKS BUSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GARBAGE…………………..
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
10:36 am
IOS JOE, THE FANS WANT A REFUND..500K A NIGHT FOR 12-14 PTS??? ARE YOU KIDDING ME????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
10:36 am
JeJe, Damien over Marvin any day! Marvin, help us help you with a new home!
Ra'mon
February 24th, 2011
10:40 am
Jeje, that’s because Jamal don’t rarely use the pick and roll, and never passes it back to the guy who set the pick. Al is always open on the pick and rolls with Jamal, yet Jamal ends up forcing a crazy shot in the lane majority of the times. And it was out of the offense.
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
10:45 am
The Heimlich Maneuver=Tyron Lue, decent player but injury prone,out more than in………..BLAH BLAH BLAH…………………………….one and done………………….Knicks will pass the Hawks by in roughly 2-3 weeks….6 seed..1st rd Chicago vs. The Atlanta Hawks…..Ouch!!! Chicago in 5??
up next your guess??
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
10:47 am
BTW the Heimlich Maneuver is injured and will be out for several games…Sund you are incredible dude???????????????????????????? 31 yrs of crap………………….
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:53 am
The picture on the AJC Hawks page of Hinrich guarding Tony Parker is probably better defense than Bibby has ever played (or attempted to play)
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
10:55 am
Great trade for the Hawks. Hinrich is a beast defensively. And who cares about the 1st pick? LD certainly doesn’t. We have a vet Coach, that only likes to play vets. It’s obvious. Congrats to JC2. Now he can play next to Wall, and make a fierce backcourt combo. But LD wasn’t going to play him. Just not LD’s way.
The guy hates Teague, and Teagues a good player, getting better.
Rashod
February 24th, 2011
10:56 am
Joe Johnson is the problem.His a gargage type of player now,that he got his deal.Why so much hate for Josh Smith.He scored more than any other Hawks.Open up your eyes people,its Joke Johnson thats bring this team down.This is his second year in a row that he quit on the team.He one of the highest paid players in the league,too bad he’ll never play like it for the Hawks.Best Blog Of The Year !!!
Shake Something
February 24th, 2011
10:57 am
How can Jordan be missed, when Drew gave him no burn, and never intended on burning him..Yes the guy is going to be a star, but he wasnt going to get an opportunity to do so..I hate we gave up a first though.Prospects are always welcomed in my book and maybe we could have gotten that 7 foot kid from Brazil and stuffed him with whoppers and Big Macs.Overall we lost the future but upgraded for a year or 2.I can accept that bcuz this core is not moving till at least Marvin& Josh contract is up
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:57 am
Is Hinrich really hurt?
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
10:58 am
Hinrich – 2nd Team all NBA def.
Olympic team member
Averages more steals per game than: DRose, Devin Harris, Chauncey Billups, or Jameer Nelson. Averages more steals per minute than DWade.
The dude is good. Deadly midrange jumper, and 3 point shot.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
10:59 am
JeJe – Listed as day to day
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:59 am
You will all be mad when Jordan plays 35 minutes on that awful team and scores points. That’s all he is godo for
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
11:01 am
YEP.THE MANEUVER IS HURT.HE STAYS HURT BECASUE HE PLAYS SO HARD OUT THERE…PLUS HES 30 YEARS OLD NOW…..
slimjr
February 24th, 2011
11:02 am
ONE AND DONE…
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:03 am
Hinrich – 3 point shot at 38.4% is ahead of:DWill, Jennings, Conley, Kidd, Felton, DRose, Lou Williams, Holiday, and Lowry.
I’m telling you guys, the guy can play! But he will clash with Josh right off. There will be a fight. Hinrich takes no guff.
We have improved. But we still have LD, so all may be for naught.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:05 am
Exactly, SteveW.
Hinrich will get in a fight with a teammate (Josh soon). This is no longer a joke locker-room with that fat minime
joey
February 24th, 2011
11:07 am
hawks need to get a real center trade zaza and marvin for al jefferson from utah and get a sm forward role player in exchange
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:09 am
In this Hinrich trade, I wonder if we could’ve thrown in a major core player and stolen McGee or Blatche from them? Marvin + more picks?
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:09 am
Hinrich has shot 50% from 3 in Jan. and Feb. Has Missed his last 2 games with injury (toe?) I think.
In Dec., he had consecutive games of 12, 11, 9, 7 dimes against Miami, Charlotte, Chicago, and San Antonio. Not bad
lewis
February 24th, 2011
11:10 am
Why do you guys think Josh and Hinrich will fight?
If anything, Josh will be happy to have someone who brings a similar defensive intensity.
Now, argument over shot selection, I could see.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:12 am
Hinrich seems like a no-nonsense guy. Watch his fight with Rondo from 2009.
We all know Smoove doesn’t like being told what to do. Smoove is the self-proclaimed best player on this team. We should trade Smoove today for a center.
Shake Something
February 24th, 2011
11:12 am
I think we could have gotten McGee if Sund was smart enough to do it..
Shake Something
February 24th, 2011
11:16 am
anybody notice we have 5 supposedly C and none of them play,unless Collins start.
hawks_4_life
February 24th, 2011
11:18 am
Lets see what ZAZA, Jamal and our trade exemption will bring.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:21 am
Hinrich has a calf strain. Listed as day to day. Probably needs to sit out the back to back, but we’ll see.
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
11:24 am
Can you really ever think that Orlando will move Howard within the same conference?
Orlando is in trouble…they have to go get him a superstar quickly.
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
11:25 am
Well, not like Hindrich has a game plan to learn….this league isn’t about getting in major practice minutes….play him when he’s ready to run full tilt.
I am sure he will heal quicker with a playoff chance than as a Wizard.
Horford is our Savior
February 24th, 2011
11:26 am
Didnt mind Bibby being shipped off but Jordan Crawford AND a 1st Round pick?!? I was really excited for Crawford in the future.
Atlanta…Imagine if we could buy alcohol on Sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOM_UuQzc0
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
11:28 am
lewis, someone needs to tell Josh to quit wasting possessions….that is, if Hindrich does it, it will be the 1st time that anyone on this team showed they care about single possessions.
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
11:30 am
“SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:03 am
Hinrich – 3 point shot at 38.4% is ahead of:DWill, Jennings, Conley, Kidd, Felton, DRose, Lou Williams, Holiday, and Lowry.”
Good find Steve…..I will welcome Hindrich here as a fresh approach…it now depends on whether Larry welcomes him in and gives him quality minutes.
Shake Something
February 24th, 2011
11:31 am
Hinrich day-to-day is good for Teague if he remains with the team,which is likely,since now he can get some starts till Hinrich is 100%.
darrell starks
February 24th, 2011
11:35 am
Im losing confidence in LD, why in the h he continue 2 started that smallish line up with no size in the paint.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
11:37 am
With Zaza being held out last night, did Etan even dress?
If not, another great transaction by Sund. Etan has 7 games and 35 minutes to claim this year….isn’t that like $35,000/minute? That is the job I want! Production not needed. Joe’s only getting $9600/minute so far this year….talk about a good gig!