Atlanta Hawks: Suns 105, Hawks 97
Phoenix–The news of the trade shouldn’t overshadow the fact that the Hawks are suddenly reeling. That’s three straight Ls and five of six with Golden State (tough matchup), Portland (tough team) and Denver (tough building even without Melo) still to go on this trip.
- Zaza was held out as the Hawks continued trade discussions. I’m thinking any swap would be big for big but no word yet on the details of the teams/players involved.
- But first some more reaction to the trade that did go down. . . .
- L.D. said the Hawks had been calling around on point guards for the last couple weeks.
- “As everybody knows we’ve been searching for a point guard for a while, somebody who can come in and run this club,” he said. “Not saying that Mike didn’t go a good job, but there just comes a point where a change has to take place. We as an organization felt like it was that time.”
- L.D. on Hinrich: “Kirk brings such a wealth of toughness at that position. He’s a heady guy, he’s a smart guy. All the intangibles you are looking for he brings to the table.”
- Jamal: “It’s tough to tell now [how the trade will work]. Mike was the leader at point guard for a while. Jordan has a bright future. Mo is just solid, gives you defense and 3-point shooting. But I played with Kirk Hinrich [in Chicago] and I know what he’s about.”
- Bibby was a popular teammate. He has a goofy personality and saw it as his job to keep the team loose (though I think the Hawks could end up benefiting from Hinrich’s more serious approach).
- It’s a business, of course, but there was a real sense of personal loss in Atlanta’s locker room.
- “Any time you make trades, it’s always tough, especially when you grow close and attached to players,” Drew said. “But that’s just the nature of this business. It just comes with the territory.”
- Bibby, Mo and JC2 were informed they might be part of a trade and stayed behind at the team’s hotel. Word trickled through the rest of the team but players weren’t told of the pending deal until just before game time
- Al: “It’s just tough for us right before the game to get this news. It’s kind of not unexpected since we’d heard but to hear it just actually happened . . .”
- Joe: “We let three good guys go who I had become really good friends with. But at the same time we understand the business aspect and this is the profession we chose knowing that trades happen. You have to deal with it. Getting Kirk and Armstrong is definitely going to contribute to what we are trying to do. Kirk is very defensive-minded and a guy who can really knock down the open shot and penetrate and make plays for others as well. I think he is going to be beneficial for us.”
- Moving Jordan and the first-round pick is the latest indication the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future. I’m sure opinions vary on that approach among my blog people but, as I always say, the Hawks will be judged on what happens this postseason.
- Al: “Jordan, as short as time he was here, we know he has a lot of potential.”
- Drew on Armstrong: “He’s a big body. He’s athletic. He bangs. I like the fact he’s a guy who plays hard. You can’t have enough type of those guys.”
- Josh on Armstrong: “I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit. When we played against them he was a effective in a couple of games.”
- Now on to the game . . .
- The Hawks rallied from 18 down to tie it at 92-92 with five minutes left. The Suns closed them out by winning the kind of possession-by-possession sequences in which the Hawks tends to falter. Not a good idea to get into a shootout with the Suns, who made 10 of 14 shots in the fourth.
- Perhaps it would have been different at the end without the big deficit or a back-to-back but it’s an L all the same.
- “It’s tough to spot a team 18 points and having to fight back, especially a team like Phoenix,” Drew said. “They shoot the ball so well, particularly from the 3-point line (13 for 26). We exerted a lot of energy to get back and I thought our guys wore down at the end.”
- The Hawks started switching on every screen, an approach that they theoretically should be able to scrap with Hinrich on the floor.
- “We couldn’t get [stops],” Josh said. “We ended up switching. Nash is a smart point guard. He knew where the mismatches were. Tip your hat to Channing Frye, he hit some tough shots on Damien. Damien was all over him but when you are 6-10, 6-11 you get that ball in position you want it’s kind of hard to block the shot.”
- Jamal’s scoring and Damien’s defense helped the Hawks get back in it. Jamal made five straight shots but didn’t have an attempt from 6:53 of the fourth until a meaningless layup in the final seconds. “I’m getting back to being me, for sure,” he said.
- Teague got his second career start was noticeably more decisive in driving the ball. Finishing was another matter though he still was 3 for 6 from the field and 3 for 3 from the line.
- “I thought he came out aggressive in attack mode and used his speed and quickness,” Drew said. “We need that. I thought he did a tremendous job breaking the defense down and getting to the basket. That’s the way he has to play. Don’t worry about turning the basketball over, just keep the pressure on the defense.”
- After 10 nights on the road I’m officially on the injured list (shoulder) after a bench press mishap in the gym yesterday. It’s after the All-Star break so I’ve got to push through it. Hurts like hell to lug around bags but I refuse to take the L of getting on one of those old folks carts at the airport tomorrow.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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802 comments Add your comment
lkudh
February 24th, 2011
7:48 am
why does a 6′9″ forward always stop at the 3 point line and watch his team play offense
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
7:48 am
Amen, Carlos.
I like the Hinrich trade, but let’s not be content.
Get rid of Josh and ZaZa and Marvin if you get a chance. Marvin has been solid off the bench. Could we trade Josh for 2 players (including any serviceable center) and swap ZaZa for a big?
O'Brien
February 24th, 2011
7:48 am
Team loss tonight. Josh and Al weren’t rebounding early, and our defense was bad. It’s hard to come back from 18 points down on the road (unless you’re the Charlotte Bobcats and you’re playing the Hawks
).
I think Jeff played ok (all things considered). And in 19 minutes of PT, Teague had 3 FTA. For the whole season, Bibby had 46. Teague definitely deserves another 15-20 minutes of PT tomorrow night.
What’s up with Marvin? 1-7 tonight in 29 minutes. The irony is he had a +8 rating, and was the only Hawks in the positive. We need “it was not a bad pick” to come hype up Marvin again, because that was when Marvin went on his hot streak.
And what’s up with JJ? His points the last 5 games…11, 14, 11, 14, and 12. He still gets his share of rebounds and assists, but we need more scoring from him, especially since the Hawks have lost 5 of their last 6.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
7:49 am
It’s amazing that a team has one of the most athletic players ever (Josh Smith), yet he is content taking jumpshots and throwing wild passes
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
7:51 am
Hinrich brings exactly the intensity we need. The guy gets into scuffles and gets technical fouls. It’s about time we got some damn intensity from the Point Guard position
Section 303
February 24th, 2011
7:52 am
KevinM, Baron Davis has been coasting for years in LA. He decided to suddenly wake up and play a bit this year, mainly because of Blake Griffin. Yahoo Sports did an article about how Donald Sterling (Clip owner) was heckling Baron Davis during games. When the owner starts to heckle you, you might have a problem.
I’m trying to picture Rutherford or Michael Gerron heckling Josh Smith during a Hawks game. That would be funny….
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
7:54 am
This is what we are getting with Kirk Hinrich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2cA9FMiCxA
How many other players on the Hawks besides that fluke Marvin fight would do this?
It’s about time we got some damn toughness on this team. Now get rid of Smoove for a center and this team will compete.
Good move, Sund.
Section 303
February 24th, 2011
7:54 am
I would be glad to see Zaza leave. I think he is a socialite wannabe and has taken this year off. But, what can we get for him? It can’t be anything great.
This team is finished. The upcoming schedule is going to chew them up. They will come back to Philips off a winless west coast trip and get destroyed by the Bulls, Thunder, Knicks, Heat and all the other “elite” teams in the NBA.
Hawks just don’t measure up.
O'Brien
February 24th, 2011
7:55 am
Najeh,
Huge loss for the Hawks, considering that Chicago and Orlando both lost .
And the Knicks won, so they are 4 games behind the Hawks in the loss column.
STRETCH
February 24th, 2011
7:59 am
Carlos,
CO-SIGN your 7:44!!!
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
8:09 am
The 76ers had 3 players off their bench in double figures last night
Section 303
February 24th, 2011
8:10 am
Knicks could be tied or a game out back by the time the Hawks get back to Philips.
Team is getting exposed as a total fraud.
Worldwide Clyde
February 24th, 2011
8:18 am
Free Jordan Crawford
Hate to see us give him away.
MsDee
February 24th, 2011
8:19 am
@Section 303,
You gotta have faith,faith,faith!! We got Kirk H, for Bibby, MO, Jc2(who never could see the floor enough for me) & draft pick…not bad. We got Jamal by giving up Acie & Speedy(brokeback) Claxton..not bad..NOT BAD AT ALL. So there is still hope for Zaza in return of a/some great pieces!!
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:21 am
We just traded a carbon copy of jamal who had a better shooting stroke and who was eight years younger. I guess this means we have to resign jamal in the offseason? Players like that don’t came around very often (JC2) kid was an absolute steal, and jamal isn’t getting any younger.
I mean, the kid shoots effortlessly from Deep-Deep Joe Johnson – type range.
LD makes me sick.
lewis
February 24th, 2011
8:21 am
If Rick Sund can get rid of ZaZa i’ll take back alot of hate
Najeh Davenpoop
February 24th, 2011
8:25 am
“Players like that don’t came around very often (JC2)”
I agree that Jordan was a promising player, but I don’t necessarily agree that players like him don’t come around often. Undersized combo guards are one of the most common type of players you can find in the league. Dominique Jones and Eric Bledsoe both went in the second half of the same first round. The role of a scorer off the bench is not that hard to replace, at least compared with other positions.
Geemack
February 24th, 2011
8:31 am
I like Kirk Hinrich,
He is tough defensively, and can score. Why this isn’t CP3 or D-Will it is an upgrade.
Dunkus Colossus Barkley
February 24th, 2011
8:33 am
The Hawks are very average in the present and just forfeited the future. New ownership is needed to get the top free agents. To be a great point guard away from being a dominant team and management trading for an average point guard tells you all you need to know…
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
8:33 am
Bibby was the goofy guy in the locker room. That’s it.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
8:35 am
Jo-Craw did nothing for this team. He just shoots
Trojan
February 24th, 2011
8:35 am
The problem with the JC2 trade is that he was the cheap replacement for JC1 after this year.
Larry Drew’s substitutions are not understandable. No wonder no one ever know his role on the team.
Why is Josh so far away from the basket? Perhaps he needs a coach to tell him to be closer to the basket?
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:36 am
I’m gonna miss him.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fnp7HDI3Gbs&feature=related
To be fair though, his defens was about as bad as Jamals lol. Then again. I did say he was a carbon copy.
Worldwide Clyde
February 24th, 2011
8:42 am
Dunkus I’m with you. I would rather pay Jordan Crawford his rookie salary to come in off the bench next year than pay to resign Jamal.
The Hawks have forfeited their future again and it will come back to hurt them. Guess some organizations just don’t learn they lesson.
JerryWest
February 24th, 2011
8:48 am
Hawks like to fill their roster with minimum salary vets who don’t need training vs non lottery rookies.
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:51 am
Poop, I agree that you can always find another bench gunner, but I just know that kid is special. There are not going to be many people who will be able to stop him in the future…..probably right now actually. And he was cheap!
We’ve got six more years of JJ but do we really need more Jamal? How many years? How much $$ can we afford to pay him? He’s in those dangerous years yo give contracts to non-superstars (30+) If he leaves, what do we do? I pray that IF Rick does not have the answer to these questions, HE TRADES JAMAL AND MARVIN FOR A BIG TODAY.
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:54 am
Teague kind-of got shafted in this deal as well. He plays great and now he has to go back to the bench and get NO PLAYING TIME. YOu cound see Nash start to step his game up midway throuh the 1st quater when he realized that Teague was forreal….he then proceeded to bait the youngster into a couple fouls lol.
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:55 am
“Hawks like to fill their roster with minimum salary vets who don’t need training vs non lottery rookies.”
Very true…smh
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
8:57 am
I am just going to assume that rick has a couple more deals up his sleeve. He has just to.
Worldwide Clyde
February 24th, 2011
9:00 am
I am not impressed.
Fire Sund
Najeh Davenpoop
February 24th, 2011
9:03 am
Apparently the Grizzlies and Rockets are talking Battier-for-Thabeet, and the Rockets want a first rounder from Memphis to complete the deal. If a turd sandwich and a first rounder is enough to acquire Battier, then I would think Jamal and a first rounder in 2013 should at least approach what it takes to get Battier and Aaron Brooks.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 24th, 2011
9:03 am
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211362/Rockets_Offering_Battier_For_Thabeet
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
9:07 am
As HOOPSWORLD’s Alex Kennedy covered earlier, the Atlanta Hawks have acquired point guard Kirk Hinrich and center Hilton Armstrong from the Washington Wizards in exchange for Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans, Jordan Crawford and their 2011 first round draft pick.
With all of the other Eastern Conference power players strengthening their lineups over the past eight months coupled with Atlanta’s recent struggles on the court it was only a matter of time before the franchise jumped into the fray.
Ever since the Atlanta Hawks passed on the likes of Chris Paul and Deron Williams in the 2005 draft for Marvin Williams the subject of point guard has been a touchy one to loyal followers of the franchise.
Those concerns were magnified during the 2009-10 campaign when Bibby, who’d been solid in his first two seasons with the team, posted career-low numbers across the board. Before the start of the 2010-11 season Bibby told HOOPSWORLD part of the reason for his struggles was reporting to camp out of playing shape due to his contract negotiations that offseason.
During the early stages of this season it appeared Bibby, now in better shape, was accurate in his assessment and he jumped out the gate shooting over 50 percent from three-point range. However, after the torrid start the veteran point guard cooled off considerably which led to the team’s decision to shop him around the league.
Since the Hawks have goals of making it to the Eastern Conference at the very least this season, bringing in Hinrich is an immediate upgrade. The move won’t shake the NBA landscape on a mainstream basis, but there is no denying his addition to the club puts them in a better position than the team occupied heading into the All-Star break.
Trade Advantages
Defensive Presence: Even in Bibby’s prime years he was never known as a defensive stopper. The further Bibby became removed from his prime, the more his defensive deficiencies became obvious to even the most causal of fan.
In a conference which boasts supremely quick point guards such as Derrick Rose, Rajon Rondo and Brandon Jennings (and now Deron Williams!), Bibby’s lateral quickness became a liability for Atlanta’s lineup. Since there isn’t a great deal of shot blocking inside teams who were able to penetrate the lane routinely gave the Hawks fits.
Hinrich, 30, on the other hand brings a hard-nosed approach to the defensive end. The former University of Kansas standout has earned praise throughout his career on the defensive side of the ball and will tighten up the Hawks’ porous perimeter defense.
Offense/Playmaking: Although Hinrich is a 42 percent career shooter from the field, he’s a very solid spot-up shooter with range stretching beyond the three-point arc.
In addition, Hinrich has demonstrated the ability to break down opposing defenses, cause havoc and get into the lane which is something the perimeter oriented Hawks have lacked in their offense with Bibby running the show.
Size, Size, Size and More Size: It’s no secret that All-Star center Al Horford wants to play more power forward moving into the future, so Armstrong provides another young body inside to take the pounding which will free Horford up more to play his natural position. Armstrong is really limited on offense but on a roster with plenty of capable scorers all he’ll need to do is rebound, shot block and provide interior toughness.
While the on court product once Hinrich and Armstrong get acclimated to their new teammates will be much better, everything about the deal isn’t great for the Hawks over the long-term.
Trade Disadvantages
Future Talent Pipeline: By acquiring Hinrich and Armstrong, the Hawks essentially sent two first-round draft picks to Washington. Sure Crawford played sparingly this season, but that was expected being slotted behind veterans Joe Johnson and Jamal Crawford on the depth chart. Crawford, No. 27 overall pick, in last June’s draft can play and will eventually contribute at the pro level.
Throw in the 2011 first-round pick shipped to the Wizards and the Hawks have definitely weakened their talent pipeline of the future for Hinrich’s services alone since Armstrong is a free agent this summer.
Lastly, second-year point guard Jeff Teague’s role will likely not increase with the move which also brings into question how the team views him as part of the future. Entering the season Teague was expected to give Bibby a run for the starting lineup, but now he will remain relegated to spot duty off the bench.
Financial Flexibility: The already cost conscious Hawks added more payroll to the books when factoring in the value of Hinrich’s remaining deal. The veteran will earn $8 million in 2012. Bibby and Crawford were set to earn $7.3 million next season combined.
Team Chemistry: Bibby may not have been part of the “core” but the guys in the locker room truly respected him on and off the court. Plus he was a solid mentor to Teague. Bringing in new pieces always leads to these types of concerns. It remains to be seen how Hinrich and Armstrong adjust to new teammates, coaches, roles and offensive/defensive philosophies.
Small Forward Depth: The Hawks were extremely thin at small forward to begin with, but by trading Evans the club gets weaker at this slot. Damien Wilkins will presumably inherit Evans’ minutes in the rotation and provides more defense. The move puts more pressure on Williams’ ability to stay healthy which hasn’t been a lock by any stretch this season.
Overall, the Hawks made an extremely solid move to strengthen their chances at competing in a rapidly improving conference and probably overpaid a little doing so. Giving up the first-round pick is a big risk in terms of future trade assets and talent development, but the Hawks faithful were getting restless standing idle so you can’t fault the team by upgrading the (very touchy) point guard position.
Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18883#ixzz1EswhL3PU
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
9:16 am
Is anyone else worred about the fact that Kirk turns the ball over a lot? IDK thats just what i’m hearing…
mike
February 24th, 2011
9:17 am
Michael Cunningham is probable for Golden State (shoulder). No decision yet, but LD says Ken Suguira might start in his place.
JerryWest
February 24th, 2011
9:20 am
2011 draft will be one of the worst in history. How many underclassmen will come out with the impending lockout?
Our 2011 late first rounder with Sund/BK is like a 2nd rounder in any other draft for any other team.
hawks_4_life
February 24th, 2011
9:24 am
Rather than remain bystanders in an Eastern Conference that is either top-heavy (Boston, Miami, Chicago) or has been hyper-active in transforming their roster (Orlando, New York), the Hawks jumped into the fray on Wednesday by acquiring Kirk Hinrich and Hilton Armstrong for Mike Bibby, Maurice Evans, Jordan Crawford and a first round pick in 2011.
Bibby remained an excellent floor-spreading shooter at point guard, but didn’t produce anything of value off the dribble and was a complete liability on the defensive end. The Hawks give up 105.9 points per 100 possessions, which ranks them 13th in the NBA and the addition of Hinrich will allow the team to stop the ball better up top and that trickles down to the rest of the team.
Hinrich is several years older than he was when he played excellent defense against Dwyane Wade in the 2007 Playoffs and he hasn’t looked himself on that end of the floor this season. The Hawks need to hope some of that is based on the kinds of players he was teamed with as a member of the Wizards.
Hinrich isn’t quite as good of a pure perimeter shooter as Bibby, but he is shooting a still strong 38.4% from distance and that is a fairly typical output for him historically. He also is skilled on the pick and roll, an area that will benefit Atlanta’s offensive output. The Hawks are slightly below average in offensive efficiency and hopefully the infusion of Hinrich means more Al Horford pick and rolls and less isolations from Josh Smith and Jamal Crawford.
I’d also like to see the Hawks give Jeff Teague a little bit more run since he is essentially their only young player with latent potential left on the roster. Losing a first round pick in the upcoming draft, along with the 2010 first round pick doesn’t make Atlanta’s already bleak long-term outlook appear any better.
Armstrong was the 12th overall pick in 2006 and has legitimate size, but he has failed to develop in a way to warrant anything more than end of rotation minutes. He’s a decent rebounder and shotblocker, but doesn’t produce offensively, though that fits what the Hawks generally need. Armstrong has had a few decent moments this season and he adds six fouls against Dwight Howard that Maurice Evans couldn’t produce. I wouldn’t expect him to finally figure things out, but maybe he overachieves with Atlanta and allows Larry Drew to give Horford a few extra minutes at power forward. As far as throw-ins go, you can do a lot worse than Armstrong.
The Hawks will now have Hinrich, Joe Johnson, Horford, Smith and Crawford to close out most games and that is a better defensive unit than substituting out Hinrich for Bibby. With the offensive end being a virtual wash, the Hawks should have an easier time winning close games, but this trade doesn’t accomplish a ton from a 48 minute perspective.
For Jamal Crawford, he is reunited with his former rival from Chicago and Hinrich’s presence will probably force him to move on this offseason yet again.
One possible negative for the Hawks is that Bibby could end up with an Eastern Conference playoff team that needs a point guard and there are several that fit the profile. Bibby doesn’t make a huge difference, as the Hawks know well, but if he hits a few three-pointers here and there while facilitating for a team that is strong on defense at the other four positions, then he certainly doesn’t hurt.
The Hawks needed to do something, otherwise they were looking at a first round exit, but this is a half-measure and half-measures are not what fringe contenders need. Atlanta is paying a heavy price-tag simply to trade in one over-30 guard for another over-30 guard.
A more ambitious trade involving Marvin Williams, or even Josh Smith if they wanted to really attempt a substantial shake-up would have had a stronger positive impact.
Grade for Hawks: D+
The Wizards pick up a player selected in the late 20s in Crawford and a pick this season that will also be in the 20s. Washington also saves some money in the trade, though it is relatively minor unless Bibby accepts a reduced buyout to get back to a playoff team.
Washington took on Hinrich with the team’s cap space last June/July and used the pick Chicago threw in to draft Kevin Seraphin and now they add Joe Crawford, and two parts that won’t be around very long. Considering first round picks cost about $3 million apiece to buy from teams looking for cash, this is what they have essentially paid on average for Seraphin, Jordan Crawford and the player to be drafted later.
I thought Jordan Crawford was a stretch to be selected in the first round in the first place and has been given very little playing time this season. He can handle the ball a little bit and was a pure scorer on the college level and the Wizards need to hope he develops into a Jodie Meeks.
For me at this point, no trade for the Wizards is a true success unless it involve Andray Blatche, Nick Young or Al Thornton.
Grade for Wizards: B+
Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/blog/211344/Grading_The_Deal_Hawks_Improve_Defense_With_Hinrich#ixzz1Et1DZDUK
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
9:30 am
LOL @ us being scared about Bibby going to a Playoff team. The guy is not giving up the rest of his money to compete. I see MIami going after him. Please DO NOT bring this old washed up overweight guy to this team
terrell
February 24th, 2011
9:42 am
Aww Joe. Your’e losing a few friends(who suck at basketball). Whatever.
JoJo the Godfather
February 24th, 2011
9:50 am
Keep it moving Sund…Jamal, Marvin, Powell, Pachulia & Thomas all need new homes as well…Shake this group up…Keep adding toughness & size…Corey Brewer, Joel Pryzbilla, Marcus Camby, Shane Battier, Raja Bell, etc…
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
9:56 am
Al seems like the only guy who realizes it’s about winning and not farting around in the lockerroom with MiniMe
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
10:09 am
Najeh, you just ruined my morning…how can we not be in the discussions for Battier and/or Brooks or even Thabeet? While Thabeet has been called every tired lazy name in the book, I would like a big man’s coach to have a crack at him. It’s not without risk of course, but where are we headed as a core now? Not past April at this point.
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Battier is the one who turns this team into a contender. Battier on Melo, Battier on LeBron, Battier on Pierce….I know why Boston wanted him….because they dont’ want to go against him if an East team can grab him up.
No risk with Battier, no risk with Brooks…..ton of risk with Thabeet.
On the side, send me Rip and Ben Wallace, and give up Zaza and Marvin….that deal is doable and gives us more bench help especially if Joe is still aching.
No way Sund can pull off another deal in less than 5 hours though.
I would love a Al/Joe/Ben/KirkorTeague/Battier lineup. There’s assets at every slot.
That’s a 39M starting lineup..and a competing one….
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:09 am
I havn’t watched Hinrich this year but i’ve enjoyed his game in the past.
If you think this trade sucks, you have not been watching the Hawks..
3 incredibly ineffective players for leadership, defensive intensity.
we might be able to hold on to the 5 spot now. but when joe johnson says i don’t know what to do, that means move bibby.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:14 am
If these guys want to win at all, they will make do with what they got now and forget about Bibby. I bet Joe sulks even more now that his Bibby is gone. WOuldn’t really matter since Joe has been garbage the last 2 weeks
Booo!
February 24th, 2011
10:14 am
Lewis, Very true. My only complaint is…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XejLyk3kJZg
Thats all i’m sayin’
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:15 am
LOL @ that guy here who wanted to trade Joe for Hinrich .We just got Hinrich for nothing
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:16 am
Exactly, lewis.
We got rid of garbage and upgraded with a feisty PG.
This year’s draft blows and this team sucks at drafting. I just wish Teague had played more last night. There’s nothing he didn’t do last night that Bibby does
KevinM
February 24th, 2011
10:16 am
Will Houston take Jason Collins instead of Thabeet to bring Battier here? Could they use Marvin?
Again, I doubt Rick Sund has it in him to make another deal of any magnitude.
Notice how Wilkens got more minutes because of Bibby being gone? How odd is that?
lewis
February 24th, 2011
10:16 am
I liked Jordan Crawford too, sad to see him go, happy to see the Hawks didn’t ruin him
We drafted him simply as a trade piece anyway
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
10:17 am
Mo Evans? LOL
Damien was beasting last night. It’s LD’s fault that Damien ended up guarding Gortat half the time.
Damien finally is going to get minutes for this team