Atlanta Hawks: Suns 105, Hawks 97
Phoenix–The news of the trade shouldn’t overshadow the fact that the Hawks are suddenly reeling. That’s three straight Ls and five of six with Golden State (tough matchup), Portland (tough team) and Denver (tough building even without Melo) still to go on this trip.
- Zaza was held out as the Hawks continued trade discussions. I’m thinking any swap would be big for big but no word yet on the details of the teams/players involved.
- But first some more reaction to the trade that did go down. . . .
- L.D. said the Hawks had been calling around on point guards for the last couple weeks.
- “As everybody knows we’ve been searching for a point guard for a while, somebody who can come in and run this club,” he said. “Not saying that Mike didn’t go a good job, but there just comes a point where a change has to take place. We as an organization felt like it was that time.”
- L.D. on Hinrich: “Kirk brings such a wealth of toughness at that position. He’s a heady guy, he’s a smart guy. All the intangibles you are looking for he brings to the table.”
- Jamal: “It’s tough to tell now [how the trade will work]. Mike was the leader at point guard for a while. Jordan has a bright future. Mo is just solid, gives you defense and 3-point shooting. But I played with Kirk Hinrich [in Chicago] and I know what he’s about.”
- Bibby was a popular teammate. He has a goofy personality and saw it as his job to keep the team loose (though I think the Hawks could end up benefiting from Hinrich’s more serious approach).
- It’s a business, of course, but there was a real sense of personal loss in Atlanta’s locker room.
- “Any time you make trades, it’s always tough, especially when you grow close and attached to players,” Drew said. “But that’s just the nature of this business. It just comes with the territory.”
- Bibby, Mo and JC2 were informed they might be part of a trade and stayed behind at the team’s hotel. Word trickled through the rest of the team but players weren’t told of the pending deal until just before game time
- Al: “It’s just tough for us right before the game to get this news. It’s kind of not unexpected since we’d heard but to hear it just actually happened . . .”
- Joe: “We let three good guys go who I had become really good friends with. But at the same time we understand the business aspect and this is the profession we chose knowing that trades happen. You have to deal with it. Getting Kirk and Armstrong is definitely going to contribute to what we are trying to do. Kirk is very defensive-minded and a guy who can really knock down the open shot and penetrate and make plays for others as well. I think he is going to be beneficial for us.”
- Moving Jordan and the first-round pick is the latest indication the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future. I’m sure opinions vary on that approach among my blog people but, as I always say, the Hawks will be judged on what happens this postseason.
- Al: “Jordan, as short as time he was here, we know he has a lot of potential.”
- Drew on Armstrong: “He’s a big body. He’s athletic. He bangs. I like the fact he’s a guy who plays hard. You can’t have enough type of those guys.”
- Josh on Armstrong: “I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit. When we played against them he was a effective in a couple of games.”
- Now on to the game . . .
- The Hawks rallied from 18 down to tie it at 92-92 with five minutes left. The Suns closed them out by winning the kind of possession-by-possession sequences in which the Hawks tends to falter. Not a good idea to get into a shootout with the Suns, who made 10 of 14 shots in the fourth.
- Perhaps it would have been different at the end without the big deficit or a back-to-back but it’s an L all the same.
- “It’s tough to spot a team 18 points and having to fight back, especially a team like Phoenix,” Drew said. “They shoot the ball so well, particularly from the 3-point line (13 for 26). We exerted a lot of energy to get back and I thought our guys wore down at the end.”
- The Hawks started switching on every screen, an approach that they theoretically should be able to scrap with Hinrich on the floor.
- “We couldn’t get [stops],” Josh said. “We ended up switching. Nash is a smart point guard. He knew where the mismatches were. Tip your hat to Channing Frye, he hit some tough shots on Damien. Damien was all over him but when you are 6-10, 6-11 you get that ball in position you want it’s kind of hard to block the shot.”
- Jamal’s scoring and Damien’s defense helped the Hawks get back in it. Jamal made five straight shots but didn’t have an attempt from 6:53 of the fourth until a meaningless layup in the final seconds. “I’m getting back to being me, for sure,” he said.
- Teague got his second career start was noticeably more decisive in driving the ball. Finishing was another matter though he still was 3 for 6 from the field and 3 for 3 from the line.
- “I thought he came out aggressive in attack mode and used his speed and quickness,” Drew said. “We need that. I thought he did a tremendous job breaking the defense down and getting to the basket. That’s the way he has to play. Don’t worry about turning the basketball over, just keep the pressure on the defense.”
- After 10 nights on the road I’m officially on the injured list (shoulder) after a bench press mishap in the gym yesterday. It’s after the All-Star break so I’ve got to push through it. Hurts like hell to lug around bags but I refuse to take the L of getting on one of those old folks carts at the airport tomorrow.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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The Truth
February 24th, 2011
11:57 pm
One glaring problem with the Hawks management is they don’t see real value in players until they become a retail commodity. But by then, because of their excessive frugal spending, acquiring such a player in the open market becomes impossible. This organization has completely lost all confidence in its ability to draft quality players to the point they would rather give a pick away then to be face with selecting another bust. Unless a team is in a big market, their only chance of winning a championship is building through the draft. With overly agressive agents consulting these rising superstar players, they will always steer their clients away from small markets. The prime rib will always follow the big money. JJ is a special case, he’s a wannabe who impersonated a superstar and got the gig in in small market hot-lanta. Now that our draft legs have been cut from under us, our chances of landing a quailty player through FA is slim to none. With our current budget and constraint, just like last yr, our MLE will not be used. So our “heavy-hitting” this off-season will be vet min shopping during the FA shopping spree season.
lewis
February 25th, 2011
12:16 am
Bibby’s on the court issues were one thing, but the lax attitude, being able to do whatever he wanted and say whatever he wanted. It’s cool that people liked partying with him, but, lets get serious he did not care about winning.
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
February 25th, 2011
12:18 am
Why are we always in a defense that causes other teams shooters to be wide open?
Why are we alway settling for jump shots?
These seems like things that should be able to be corrected.
Little Fawkers
February 25th, 2011
12:39 am
Hawks suck so bad that ESPN won’t even mention us in all the trade talks. Everyone knows we are a joke. I wish Horford would get traded so he has a chance to win somewhere that cares about winning.
L.D. is a Clown
February 25th, 2011
12:40 am
LD must have known long ago like we the Fans knew long ago that Bibby was not the answer at PG, he was not just arriving in Atlanta, he was on Mike Woodson staff and saw what Bibby did from very close range for two years. Despite that knowledge he failed to develop Teague who is far superior defensively and instead slow his development, and we can only hope his confidence has not been shaken too badly.
Did Jordan Crawford ever get a chance to show his talent? Or was he not worthy of the ist round draft pick?
The Hawks have been in need of a PG since Mookie left town, and yet they passed on Tinsley and others, but was most unbelieveable when they passed on Deron Williams and Chris Paul in 2006. Teague at Wake was comparable to Lawson at NC who is now playing in Denver. The difference in their games must be wider now, as he has been getting playing time and is developing in Denver, whereas Teague hardly gets into any Hawks game. Heinrich will be an improvement, but should not further delay the devlopment of Teague. Heirich was replaced in Chicago for the quicker Rose and in Dc for the quicker Wall. Teague if developed properly has the quickness to defend those guys.
With Jordan Crawford exit, and if Teague was not to make it, Rick Sund would be 0-2. What would that tell the fans about his ability to improve this Franchise?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 25th, 2011
12:59 am
This new look Nuggets team looks pretty damn good. That’s going to be a tough game for the Hawks.
rusty
February 25th, 2011
1:18 am
You have heard that old saying ld is as dumb as a skunk
Worldwide Clyde
February 25th, 2011
1:32 am
Why did we have to get rid of Jordan Crawford?
This deal should have got done just offering Bibby, Mo and a first round pick. Sund they pimped you.
Fire Sund
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
1:44 am
“Why did we have to get rid of Jordan Crawford?
This deal should have got done just offering Bibby, Mo and a first round pick. Sund they pimped you.
Fire Sund”
Hawks have lost 5 of 6! Sund is looking at the rest of the schedule and saw an azz kicking coming to Phillips for his squad so he got screwed out of desperation….
It Truly Sucks being a Hawks fan……………………………………………………..
Worldwide Clyde
February 25th, 2011
1:54 am
These three changes are needed to save the Hawks
1. New Owners
2. New GM
3. New Coach
Fire Sund
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
1:56 am
“Save us the hot air rhetoric HAWKS HOMERS this team with the addition of journeyman Hinrich and Armstrong will be 6th or 7th seed in the playoffs and bounced out the 1st rd in 5″
philly is coming on strong! They had Washington down by 30!!!!
It will not take more than 2 weeks to find out Sund blew it again…………….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 25th, 2011
1:59 am
twitter.com/fakericksund
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
1:59 am
Let’s hope the Heimlich maneuver does not choke himself……
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
2:03 am
I like Denver without Carmelo…They are defending better! To compete for a Championship you must defend well and rebound well. These two the Hawks have never been good at……..especially in the present…………………
EmirS.
February 25th, 2011
2:27 am
So about those petitions……
Grandad
February 25th, 2011
2:40 am
Mr Superiorblogman:
I read your earlier comments and am most disturbed,
You see, I am a white man married to an african american lady
with three children; one Asian, one Mexican, and one a Jew.
And the darndest thing…I have a dawg named “Arab”.
My family was old time Southern money:
My parents were in iron and steel;
My ma’ma had to iron and my daddy had to steal.
My Grandaddy ran the KKK = Krispy Kreme krullers
He was later bought out by what is now Krispy Kreme Doughnuts.
Sir, I am proud of my Southern heritage.
You need to take your bigotry over to FoxNews.
You & Limbough have more in common than you would like to think.
sam;l
February 25th, 2011
3:27 am
wow superior blogman don’t like white people who can think………
I mean there are stupid white basketball but Hinrich isn’t one of them. .
I suspect you would just drop dead is someone like Thibadeau came along and started coaching the Hawks which is why I originally thought the move was to keep Woody.
Now I ain’t so sure. But you do agree the best basketball players and coaches should come here right, white black brown or yellow……right? . Gonna give the white guy a chance or do all the players have to be your color?
Jamillion
February 25th, 2011
4:42 am
I personally think boston got worse, mia stood pat,so did chi and orl.The only teams that got better were us,ny,okc,nj,&den.We got our perimeter d solved.That was our biggest issue
hawks_4_life
February 25th, 2011
5:30 am
Ok alot of folks dont like us giving up 2 draft picks (last years and this years) for kirk. Well from my understanding he has 2 years on his deal now with us!! Bibby also had two. Jamals is out after this year. He wont come back to us for scraps plus some other teams want him like the nets. Marvin will be in his last year of his contract at the start of 2012 so thats like 8 mil of a bad contract someone will take to help them make moves!!! Those two draft picks is 4 years of salaries each that we dont have to pay now!! They both would have been around 3 mil a year unless we really suck next year!!
So looking at it at the start of 2012 there will be atleast 15mil a year off the books with a chance to get marvins 8 off as well.
Why would howard come hear? One he is pissed at the magic. We now have a deeper big man bench than they do and thats sad!!! He wants to play at home like melo and ofcourse he and josh are good friends!!. The catch to all of this is, as its been since mookie left, we need a pg. D. will has said he will not sign anything untill 2012 which means he will see who has the best options for him!! CP3 and parker will be out there as well but chris will go to the knicks and Id rather dwill over parker anyday!!!
So is this far fetched, I dont think so and I do think thats what Sund is doing!!!
Gator
February 25th, 2011
5:49 am
hawk_4_life
u give Sund too much credit
hawks_4_life
February 25th, 2011
5:55 am
Gator not really I forgot to mention that was a blurp I found on the hawks board on espn.com
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
7:14 am
Samuel,
I agree that this is a safe move for Rick Sund. Unfortunately for us fans, he likes the safe moves. However, I disagree with the rest of your post.
“I think it was a move to appease the bloggers.They can now say they listened to the fans”.
With Bibby gone, do you think that translates to more people going to the games? I dont think so. They need to win more home games for that to happen, and since when do teams make trades because of what the fans want?
I dont think the ASG is all that concerned about what the fans want. If they were concerned about the fans, then they would do a better job marketing and PR wise, and would make better moves over the offseason to get fans interested.
Kind of like the LD move was anti Woody, this one was anti-Bibby..
If by anti-Bibby you mean upgrading one of the most important positions on the court, and trading a guy who was horrible at defending dribble penetration, a guy who forced one HC to switch all the time, the guy who his teamates would get frustrated at becuase they have to cover for him consistently, a guy who was in a shooting slump the last few games, a guy who his coach said is wearing down, a guy who wont be able to guard Rondo, Jameer, Rose, Chauncey and the other PGs we might see in the playoffs…is that your definition of anti Bibby?
Sure Bibby was slow but he also kept us in a lot of games when the rest of the “so-called” superstars were laying eggs. .
Which “so-called” superstars are you referring to? And who calls these guys superstars?
Bibby helped us win a lot of games, but he also cost us alot of games. And sometimes when he scored 10, he gave up 15.
I think the trade for Bibby was very important to helping the Hawks get to the playoffs the last 3 seasons. But it was time for an upgrade. I wish they would have made a better trade, or made some other trades, but I think the Bibby trade was just to give the team a chance to play better (and they had lost 5 of their last 6 too).
JeJe
February 25th, 2011
7:34 am
Al Horford is the only player on this team who wants to win. Everyone else on the team is a loser. Why did Horford sign an extension with us?
28th in rebounding
lewis
February 25th, 2011
7:55 am
rofl @ grandad’s 2:48
robdawg
February 25th, 2011
8:39 am
The most important parts on any team are the Defense up the middle, Center and PG. We addressed one of these (although we could have gotten D Wiliams if we had sweeetened the pot).How often do you get a chance to get the best PG in the league and we passed on him for a second time. When will we ever learn? KH is probably a good 2nd alternative. He plays defense and is an excellnt passer which Bibby did neither. As for the center position, you have Boston willing to part with Perkins. He would have been a perfect fit. He’s tough as hell and does not back down from anyone. Would have allwed Horford to play PF. Most importantly, we are still stuck with Marvin. Just a reminder of our past mistakes. We should have shipped him off to anyone just to get the idea of our past off of this team. Until we get tough in the middle, we will remain stuck in the middle of the east pack. This team is improved but will remain mediocre until the center position is addressed. Also, Boston is toast. They just rid themselves of what made them different from the pack. If they think Shack and JO are going to save them, they are in for a short post season.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 25th, 2011
8:57 am
““I think it was a move to appease the bloggers.They can now say they listened to the fans”.”
Sund doesn’t even use a computer. WTF does he know about blogs.
vava74
February 25th, 2011
9:19 am
robdawg,
Boston’s moves were bizarre to say the least.
However, independently of how bizarre they seem, they would never trade Perkins within the Eastern Conference.
The only explanation I have for this move was to make the Lakers’ life more difficult for the future.
Samuel
February 25th, 2011
9:20 am
OB,
The only thing that will translate into more fans is winning. Obviously, many fans thought Bibby was our main problem. That remains to be seen.
So you think Hinrich and Teague will be able to guard Rose,Rondo, Billips or a healthy Jameer. I don’t think so. These guys are unguardable.
Don’t get me wrong, I know that Bibby was getting old and should have had his minutes reduced by whose fault is that. I just don’t see where getting an aging Hinrich will put us any closer to competing on the next level and we gave up a #1 pick and a promising young scorer to boot. I see that as a step back.
STRETCH
February 25th, 2011
9:23 am
Well atleast Boston has lost some size which allows the rest of the East to play with them.
The Hawks got a G, so there is some progress made there. Would like to see them pick up one of the rumored players that will be available come next week;
Kapono
Powe
TJ Ford
Troy Murphy
They could help this team out.
slimjr
February 25th, 2011
9:24 am
“we could have gotten D Wiliams if we had sweeetened the pot).How often do you get a chance to get the best PG in the league and we passed on him for a second time. When will we ever learn?”
come on man this is the Atlanta Hawks. one of the most dysfunctional organizations in pro sports. have never been to a championship going on 50 years very soon…Just garbage………….
Afraid to be the Champs!!!!!!!
A bunch of Chumps from the top down………………..!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
robdawg
February 25th, 2011
9:41 am
vava74 , you are correct about Boston not trading Perkins to an eastern team. But do you remember what great GMs do? I’m talking Jerry West, Red Aurbach, J Schurholz. They find a way. Swing a deal with a Western team after the Perkins trade. When you want to win, anything is possible. We had Marvin, Crawford as bait. What did we do? Nada
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
9:52 am
Samuel,
Teague wont be able to guard them either, but I dont even know if JJ can guard them, and as long as Bibby was here, JJ would be the guy on those PGs, and that takes away his offensive game, becuase he spends so much energy on defense sometimes.
At least with Hinrich, we can let him guard them (even if he doesnt stop them,he just needs to make them work harder). And that will at least keep JJ a little fresher because he wont have to guard them, and our bigs should be in a better position because they wont have to switch and rotate as much.
Depending on the playoff matchups, Hinrich might only be a minor improvement. But before we get to the playoffs, we need to finish the regular season, and the way things were going (we’ve lost 5 out of 6), we could easily end up in 6th (right now, we are 4 games in front of the Knicks).
By making this trade, maybe we get enough regular season victories to clinch the 4th seed and homecourt advantage in the first round. And if we play Orlando…who knows what can happen. They still dont have a backup Center, and we’ve played them close so far.
As for what we gave up, I dont mind the first round pick in next year’s draft, because from what I’ve read, it might be a weak draft. However, I agree that it would have been nice to keep Jordan Crawford. He had the potential to develop into a poor man’s Jamal.
But keep in mind a cheap vet could also be a poor man’s Jamal (look at what we got from Flip when he was here). TMac coming off the bench could be a poor man’s Jamal, so I think the Hawks can find cheap vets to fill that role.
The problem is ASG and Rick need to be smart at what they do, have good scouting etc. And so far, they have not been very good at that (imo).
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
9:55 am
robdawg,
We had Marvin, Crawford as bait. What did we do? Nada.
It doesn’t matter how great your bait is…if the fish isnt biting, there is nothing you can do. Which GM in their right mind would give up good pieces for Marvin (who has 3 years, $22 mil left after this season) and ZaZa (who has looked horrible this year, and still has 2 years $10 mil left after this season).
I havent been impressed by Rick either, but its hard to blame him for not finding somebody to take Marvin and ZaZa. Blame him for giving Marvin and ZaZa the contracts they have.
O'Brien
February 25th, 2011
9:57 am
robdawg,
I just realized you said Marvin and Crawford. My bad. Now that, I agree with. Crawford should have been traded over the offseason. We resigned JJ, and drafted Jordan, and had Mo Evans, so why pay $10.8 mil for another expiring SG, when the rest of the bench is weak?
Rick does deserve alot of heat for that.
drmaryb (*_*)
February 25th, 2011
10:02 am
“Would like to see them pick up one of the rumored players that will be available come next week;”
_________________
Do we now have any roster spots avble to us?
Or, can we offer someone a buy-out?
Sautee
February 25th, 2011
10:08 am
Samuel,
About this: “I just don’t see where getting an aging Hinrich will put us any closer to competing on the next level and we gave up a #1 pick and a promising young scorer to boot. I see that as a step back.”
An aging Hinrich? He’s 30. And you wanted a 38 year old Shaq?
LMFAO. Even if I agree that Shaq could have helped. But Hinrich is “aging”?
News flash Sam: EVERYONE is aging!!!!!!! And most 30 year olds still have plenty left in the tank. How’s that 33 y.o. Kobe Bryant doing? How about that 35 y.o. Ray Allen?
lewis
February 25th, 2011
10:13 am
Hey, Larry Drew and you’re stupid jumpshooting offense,
Did you see what Noah, Booz and Chicago did to Chris “jump shooting power forward” Bosh? 1-18.
richbrave
February 25th, 2011
10:14 am
drmaryb (*_*)
I got me a third ball player now. Guess I’ll be going to ball games ’till I’m a dead man. Oy, another twenty of this? I’ll be 88. Ain’t gonna’ happen. Guess I’ll enjoy what I got, and let tomorrow take care of itself.
lewis
February 25th, 2011
10:39 am
New ownership in the works?
10:16 am February 25, 2011, by Chris Vivlamore
At this point, here is what I can report on the ongoing Thrashers ownership issue. I caution that there is still a lot of reporting to do but according to people familiar with the situation there is an investment group that is progressing in an effort to buy the Hawks, Thrashers and Philips Arena and will keep the Thrashers in Atlanta.
There is one main investors with others in the group, some of whom are from Atlanta. The group is not only interested in purchasing the three properties but there is a “development element” to the deal, possibly involving the area around the arena.
The group met with with officials from both the NBA and the NHL this week.
The Hawks, Thrashers and Philips Arena have been for sale and groups have expressed interest in buying the Thrashers and moving them to another city. Canadian cities Winnipeg, Quebec and Hamilton have long been rumored to be a possible destination.
As far as a timetable on such a deal, according to sources it would take at least a month to complete their due diligence on the proposal and another month to complete negotiations.
This is not the group involved with Atlanta native Stephen Rollins. That group is said to still be interested but a formal bid has not been made at this point.
I am continuing to work on this story in my best effort to make sure it is 100 percent accurate. Understand that I am only reporting that a new group has expressed interest in purchasing the teams and arena from the Atlanta Spirit and is progressing in its effort. There is a long way to go but it appears that the situation has progressed beyond the point of someone “kicking the tires.”
Stay tuned.
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
10:43 am
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18897
Hoopsworld calls us trade deadline winners, but Wiz fans think the’ve completed a coup. Who is right? Only time will tell.
* Does Kirk has plenty left in the tank. Wiz were happy to part with kirk not because he wasn’t good, but because he was never in their “youth movement” plans from the beginning. Just a peice to get more young pieces.
* Will LD Give Teague the minutes he deseves and has earned? This really should be his team now btw.
* Will Jamal Resign? For How much? Well he leave us with no bench? Thanks Rick?
* Will Jordan Crawford become what some of us beleive he has the potential to be?
* Will Washingtion Get a stud with that #1 pick?
* We got an extra big….for Our matchup with Orlando I guess?
* Is Hilton Armsrong Trash?
* Will Rick get rid of Marvin and Zaza this offseason and get us a Legit Center (Kaman or DeAndre Jordan) as well as a Legit SF (I really like Aminu, Tayshun Prince, or Igoudala)?
Only time will tell.
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
10:46 am
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/02/23/mike-bibby-kirk-hinrich-swap-places-in-hawks-wizard-trade/
Fan House covers the trade:
I asked Horford if it might be time for him to maybe recruit some guys in the offseason, and start telling them how great Atlanta is.
“Maybe,” Horford said with a laugh. “Definitely you want to compete with the Bostons and the Miamis, so you have to do something.”
The Truth
February 25th, 2011
10:56 am
Early in the season when Zaza was struggling (which lately has been every game) LD should have given Etan more opportunities to earn minutes. By not grooming Etan, LD is now faced with the prospect of playing Zaza even though officially LD wants no part of him. Unless Hilton Armsrong is really a stud, this will happen, how sad. But that’s LD fault
However, there is still time to turn this ship around and salvage the reminding season into something respectable. If Captain Kirk can translate on paper and gel with his new teammates then maybe something good can emerge. This will be predicated on LD willingness to change the tempo of the game to suit Hinrich’s style which is much different than Bibby slow turtle style. When making a major lineup change as the Hawks just did, anything is likely to happen during the transitional period as the team rebuilds itself. The new addition will certainly put LD coaching on display. We shall see
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
11:00 am
Well Hilton seems very athletic. Don’t know what has held him up. I guess we’ve got to do some digging.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEtKjACpQEg
Melvin
February 25th, 2011
11:07 am
*My arms are wide open* to welcome a new ownership group….
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
11:08 am
Wow, this dude has his own theme songs LOL!
vava74
February 25th, 2011
11:14 am
This is the perfect example of how unreliable highlight reels are… this guy looks like a baller…
… and then you look at his career stats (including when he was a starter for half a season at NO…
… you the result is: SCRUB…
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
11:17 am
Hey, Jeff Green becomes a restricted free agent this offseason! We could do a Sign and Trade With Marvin to make sure the Celtics dont match!
Booo!
February 25th, 2011
11:19 am
Yeah, Fans in the know (hornets fans) have accused him of being soft in the paint.
Samuel
February 25th, 2011
11:23 am
Compared to the guys he’s be playing against, yea he’s old, with the exception of Billips. Plus, he’s been a journeyman type his whole career so I don’t see how coming here putting him in any elite class with the Kobes and Ray Allens of the world. Again, I like Hinrich, I just don’t see him making us that much better. I could be wrong.
mountain_jim
February 25th, 2011
11:27 am
Thanks for all these links to various reviews and opinions of the trade. Since our bloger-in-chief on the road is not finding the time to update this space in any meaningful way so far…