Atlanta Hawks: Bibby for Hinrich in five-player deal
Loading ...Phoenix–After striking out in their efforts to acquire point guards Devin Harris and Raymond Felton, the Hawks agreed to terms with the Wizards on a trade for veteran Kirk Hinrich and athletic big man Hilton Armstrong, the team announced tonight.
As part of the deal, the Hawks sent Mike Bibby, rookie Jordan Crawford, swingman Mo Evans and their 2011 first-round draft pick to the Wizards.
Bibby, Crawford and Evans were informed of the trade prior to the team’s game against Phoenix tonight. Jeff Teague replaced Bibby in the starting lineup.
Hawks coach Larry Drew declined to comment on the trade before the game because it wasn’t yet official.
The Bulls selected Hinrich, 30, with the seventh overall pick out of Kansas in the 2003 draft. The Bulls traded him to Washington last summer along with Kevin Seraphin.
The Hawks expect Hinrich to shore up their weak perimeter defense, which has put stress on the team defense as players constantly scramble to help against dribble penetration. Like Bibby, Hinrich is a good spot-up shooter but is a better playmaker off the dribble and should help Atlanta’s fast break.
The Hawks also hope Hinrich (6-4, 190), who’s earned a reputation as a hard-nosed player, will provide toughness and leadership. He and Marvin Williams went at it during a game in Chicago last season, with both earning technical fouls.
“I’ve always been a super fan of Kirk,” Williams said. “Watching him at Kansas, he just competes, man. In college, coach [Roy] Williams would always make reference to Kirk Hinrich and say he has that toughness and that attitude.”
Armstrong (6-11, 235 pounds) is limited offensively and doesn’t rebound well for his size. But he’s an athletic leaper who could find a role helping the Hawks protect the rim, which also is a weakness (especially when Josh Smith is not in the game).
“I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit,” Smith said.
The trade is another move for the Hawks that could help them now at the expense of future flexibility and development of young players.
Both Armstrong and Evans’ contracts expire after the season. Hinrich is scheduled to make $8 million next season compared to salaries of $6.2 million for Bibby and $1.1 million for Crawford . That would add roughly $700,000 to Atlanta’s estimated $65 million in committed salaries for 2011-12.
The Hawks also had to part with the draft pick and Crawford, whom they acquired in a draft night trade in 2010 after the Nets selected him No. 27 overall. The shooting guard had played sparingly this season, appearing in just 16 of 56 games.
Finally, the trade is the latest indication that the Hawks don’t intend to give Teague a larger role. Teague, the No. 19 overall pick in the 2009 draft, had played in 46 of 56 games for an average of 11.6 minutes entering the game tonight.
The Hawks acquired Hinrich after a wide search for a trading partner in an urgent attempt to acquire a point guard.
A league source with knowledge of Atlanta’s inquiries said the team tried to swing a trade for Harris before the Nets sent him to Utah in a deal that got them All-Star Deron Williams. The source said the Hawks also were rebuffed when they inquired about point guard Raymond Felton after New York traded him to the Nuggets as part of the Carmelo Anthony trade.
The Hawks also had interest in Cleveland point guard Ramon Sessions, according to the source.
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951 comments Add your comment
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2011
8:56 pm
“Are you serious? Prince WOULD START, not provide depth.”
You’re right. I stand corrected. In a logical world, he would start. LD’s world is not necessarily always a logical one, though.
Tremaine
February 23rd, 2011
8:57 pm
Bibby didn’t even score a point last night. BYE!
Halsey
February 23rd, 2011
8:57 pm
Why are people acting like the Hawks gave up something. Nothing they gave up was of any value. If Heinrich is just a little better than Bibby, good trade.
JeJe
February 23rd, 2011
8:57 pm
GET EM TEAGUE
atlchris
February 23rd, 2011
8:58 pm
Jordan Crawford and Wall can possibly be something special. That is why we need to make the trade for Paul.
vava74
February 23rd, 2011
8:58 pm
OB,
We will need to off load contracts since Hinrich earns 3 million more than Bibby and with Al’s contract kicking in, we will be over or on the new caps limit.
Basically after the trade we have roughly 2 million more in total salaries next year.
kral
February 23rd, 2011
8:59 pm
hope this works for the better
darrell starks
February 23rd, 2011
8:59 pm
EVERY ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO THERE OPINION BUT DAM, HOW CAN ANYONE SAY THIS IS NOT AND UPGRAED, bibby avg 3 asst a game plus no defense,
COM ON MAN!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!
pinoy hawk
February 23rd, 2011
8:59 pm
I just hope the wizards trade bibby to sacramento next season so that mike would retire as a Kings…
cowbulls
February 23rd, 2011
8:59 pm
The trade doesn’t address the big problem. The best two players on the team by far are both PF and neither should be playing anywhere near big minutes at another position. Playing Horford out of position at C isn’t fair to him. Smith shooting 3’s is a nightmare.
JJ is a candidate for most over paid player in the league. JJ just isn’t a superstar and is at best a third option on a top 4 or 5 team. We all know he disappears when teams decide to play defense in the playoffs. Marvin Williams was a terrible pick then and an even worse pick today.
It’s time to blow up the team and rebuild. I don’t understand how with such a vibrant black community that signing free agents for the Hawks is such a problem.
Mantis
February 23rd, 2011
9:00 pm
I personally think that ASG is intentionally running the Atlanta Hawks franchise into the ground, so that they can have an excuse to sell it to another city.
Fundamentals
February 23rd, 2011
9:00 pm
Armstrong is a vet min player who is in a 1 year deal. That means we took on 1.7 million for Hinrich next year and saved a few $$ this year?
How about picking up TJ Ford when he’s bought out to shore up the PG slot on the cheap like ASG likes it? Seriously, we’d have to PG’s who could penetrate and play better D than we had? Not all bad?
Question is can Armstrong show any of the promise he showed as a defensive player of the year in college? Long shot, but he’s gone if we don’t like him most likely in May when our season ends early.
beone
February 23rd, 2011
9:00 pm
A very nice move. Thank goodness for the posters who understand the NBA, K Strickland, N Davenpoop and a few others. Most of the posters tonight simply have no clue.
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
February 23rd, 2011
9:00 pm
I’ll take Hinrich over Bibby.
Two Questions:
1. Is Hilton better than Zaza??? Will he replace him in the rotation??
2. Do you good folks think we’re finished dealing?
Smeeze
February 23rd, 2011
9:01 pm
I would think we could get much better for 2 of those players and a 1st. Maybe if Mcgee would have been in the trade rather than Armstrong but still that would be a quality streak. At least the hawks are trying
richbrave
February 23rd, 2011
9:01 pm
I’ll give you folks my take on this trade if you want to hear it. Otherwise, GO BRAVES!
Big Al
February 23rd, 2011
9:01 pm
Hey guys, Who knows what Hinrich’s contract is like? Does it expire at end of year?
Thanks.
KevinM
February 23rd, 2011
9:02 pm
Simply put, the JC2 draft pick/trade was a waste. Joe resigned and JC1 is in front with no hope for JC2 to get minutes.
The Hawks lost nothing; draft picks at that level don’t mean much. It doesn’t mean we can’t go get another one.
I like the deal..anything to get us out of the JC1/Bibby combo.
And I agree, time to wipe the Marvin Williams draft pick away too! It can’t happen soon enough.
Glad to finally see Bibby go….and Teague may get a few minutes tonight. Larry sure didn’t look happy when discussing losing Bibby.
Fundamentals
February 23rd, 2011
9:02 pm
Hilton seemed to show promise in NO, but he had no chance behind Wiz bigs.
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February 23rd, 2011
9:02 pm
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FalconValueMeal
February 23rd, 2011
9:02 pm
Another 1st round draft pick out the window! ATLANTA SPIRIT PLEASE SELL THE HAWKS TOO!!!
GO FALCONS!!!!
Whatever
February 23rd, 2011
9:03 pm
Could’ve gotten excited about Harris or Felton, not this. What are we getting out of this, 52 wins and the 5th seed instead of 51 wins and the 5th seed?
The Game Has Changed
February 23rd, 2011
9:03 pm
If yall think Jeff Teague will get more playing time yall have lost yall mind. He will start tonight and maybe the next game. But if this trade was intended to help us Kirk is going to need a lot of playing time to get nsync with the team. Also Crawford time will increase
Rashod
February 23rd, 2011
9:04 pm
I have always been a hawks fan,but with this trade.I can’t be anymore.All with got was bench warmers.Not Deron Williams,Devin Harris or even sessions but Kirk.C’Mon Man.What is Rick Sund doing.Good bye Hawks fans !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATL
February 23rd, 2011
9:04 pm
so…many…*ehem* misguided opinions.
ben marko
February 23rd, 2011
9:04 pm
BOTTOM LINE: This trade marginally improves this hawks team…Not a good move unless these are simply more pieces that we are using to trade…HIGHLY doubtful though because there two good pg’s have already been traded. Not only did we trade a first round pick for an average player but we also traded a rookie who had promise and wasn’t played much. Basically, we traded 2 1st round picks for Hinrich= Not good!
atlchris
February 23rd, 2011
9:05 pm
How can cow bulls actually suggest this team should be blown up? This team is right there at the top of the East! With the right commitment from ownership we can make the neccesary trade.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2011
9:05 pm
Here’s another Jamal trade possibility that would help the Hawks:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=46cd34q
Grant Hill is at least as effective as Marvin, and Pietrus is a solid wing defender who can knock down the 3 and has shown an ability to get to the free throw line in the past. As with the previous two trades I posted, both players are expiring. Siler has to be thrown in to make the numbers work, though, and he’s signed through next season.
John Vallely to Marvin
February 23rd, 2011
9:05 pm
The Hawks just made themselves a better team Anyone would be better than MB at point. Now, finish the deal and trade Marvin.
Rufus1
February 23rd, 2011
9:06 pm
The Hole is Closed….
The hole in our defense has been Slammed SHUT!!!… Defense wins Championships!!!! Hilton Armstrong, is a more athletic version of Zaza, except Hiltons BLOCKS SHOTS!!!!!
Hilton might be the starting center in 2 weeks….I LOVE THIS TRADE!!!!
Kirk may be the BEST ON BALL DEFENSIVE PG IN THE GAME. He is a leader, a good 3pt shooter and tough as nails.
GREAT JOB SUND….Thanks for saving LD from himself, buy trading Bibby.
Isaiah Rider
February 23rd, 2011
9:07 pm
I need a job !
Sautee
February 23rd, 2011
9:07 pm
richbrave,
Love to hear your take. Thanks.
EmirS.
February 23rd, 2011
9:07 pm
“I have always been a hawks fan,but with this trade.I can’t be anymore.”
Lol…..
Just wow lmao….
Keno
February 23rd, 2011
9:07 pm
Hinrich is an upgrade but giving up a first round pick is a HUGE mistake!
ben marko
February 23rd, 2011
9:07 pm
What has Rick Sund done since he’s been here? Draft Jeff Teague…Oh thats right our ownership group sucks! Imagine Arthur Blank as owner of the hawks…woooowww…
Nique's Revenge
February 23rd, 2011
9:08 pm
agreed Rufus
good trade
now get rid of josh, zaza, others
Peter
February 23rd, 2011
9:08 pm
Well I just realized we gave up our #1 pick next year……Duhhhhhh not that the Hawks know how to draft……
Wow Sund is ridicules.
pinoy hawk
February 23rd, 2011
9:08 pm
any link for live streaming of hawks-suns game?
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
9:09 pm
Rich Brave..
u in DC right… speak to us..
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
and go Braves
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
I’m with what dude said earlier. When did Bibby get this many fans lol?
Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
I’m with what dude said earlier. When did Bibby get this many fans lol?
Nique's Revenge
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
gooooo teague!!!!!!!!
HWJ
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
I’m done way to sell out for your fifth option on the trade market awful
The Truth
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
The Wizards just Raped the Hawks
Mo Evens, Bibby, J.Crawford and a 1st round pick for Hinrich and Armstrong.
What a JOKE
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
The only thing that makes me nervous about this trade is JC2.
I really think this kid could end up being pretty good. And just when he blossoms, I bet Hinrich will have fallen off.
Hinrich’s just Mike Bibby Jr., meaning he’s another stop-gap. He’s not even a true point. So, what this trade does is swap out Mike Bibby for a younger Mike Bibby with better defensive skills.
This move’s good if they can make something else happen, possibly ship Jamal.
Otherwise, you still have no true PG and two combo gaurds with JJ in the backcourt.
I’m hoping Teague makes Mike Bibby an after thought tonight though.
ben marko
February 23rd, 2011
9:10 pm
@ Rufus….your not too smart
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
9:11 pm
liking the demeanor of Kirk .. if he can bring grit and seriousness.. and keep the ball in the hands of the guys that need the rock.. im pleased.
run the team Kirk.. you’re a Hawk again..
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
9:11 pm
‘Stupid trade. 2 weeks ago if someone said we trade our 2010 and 2011 1st round picks for Kirk Hinrich you would say GetthePhuckOutofMyface, but not that “DumbSundofaGM”
LOL!!! Sund=Fail………………………………
atlchris
February 23rd, 2011
9:12 pm
I have to agree with a little thought, the 1st rd pick was a little much!