Atlanta Hawks: Bibby for Hinrich in five-player deal
Loading ...Phoenix–After striking out in their efforts to acquire point guards Devin Harris and Raymond Felton, the Hawks agreed to terms with the Wizards on a trade for veteran Kirk Hinrich and athletic big man Hilton Armstrong, the team announced tonight.
As part of the deal, the Hawks sent Mike Bibby, rookie Jordan Crawford, swingman Mo Evans and their 2011 first-round draft pick to the Wizards.
Bibby, Crawford and Evans were informed of the trade prior to the team’s game against Phoenix tonight. Jeff Teague replaced Bibby in the starting lineup.
Hawks coach Larry Drew declined to comment on the trade before the game because it wasn’t yet official.
The Bulls selected Hinrich, 30, with the seventh overall pick out of Kansas in the 2003 draft. The Bulls traded him to Washington last summer along with Kevin Seraphin.
The Hawks expect Hinrich to shore up their weak perimeter defense, which has put stress on the team defense as players constantly scramble to help against dribble penetration. Like Bibby, Hinrich is a good spot-up shooter but is a better playmaker off the dribble and should help Atlanta’s fast break.
The Hawks also hope Hinrich (6-4, 190), who’s earned a reputation as a hard-nosed player, will provide toughness and leadership. He and Marvin Williams went at it during a game in Chicago last season, with both earning technical fouls.
“I’ve always been a super fan of Kirk,” Williams said. “Watching him at Kansas, he just competes, man. In college, coach [Roy] Williams would always make reference to Kirk Hinrich and say he has that toughness and that attitude.”
Armstrong (6-11, 235 pounds) is limited offensively and doesn’t rebound well for his size. But he’s an athletic leaper who could find a role helping the Hawks protect the rim, which also is a weakness (especially when Josh Smith is not in the game).
“I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit,” Smith said.
The trade is another move for the Hawks that could help them now at the expense of future flexibility and development of young players.
Both Armstrong and Evans’ contracts expire after the season. Hinrich is scheduled to make $8 million next season compared to salaries of $6.2 million for Bibby and $1.1 million for Crawford . That would add roughly $700,000 to Atlanta’s estimated $65 million in committed salaries for 2011-12.
The Hawks also had to part with the draft pick and Crawford, whom they acquired in a draft night trade in 2010 after the Nets selected him No. 27 overall. The shooting guard had played sparingly this season, appearing in just 16 of 56 games.
Finally, the trade is the latest indication that the Hawks don’t intend to give Teague a larger role. Teague, the No. 19 overall pick in the 2009 draft, had played in 46 of 56 games for an average of 11.6 minutes entering the game tonight.
The Hawks acquired Hinrich after a wide search for a trading partner in an urgent attempt to acquire a point guard.
A league source with knowledge of Atlanta’s inquiries said the team tried to swing a trade for Harris before the Nets sent him to Utah in a deal that got them All-Star Deron Williams. The source said the Hawks also were rebuffed when they inquired about point guard Raymond Felton after New York traded him to the Nuggets as part of the Carmelo Anthony trade.
The Hawks also had interest in Cleveland point guard Ramon Sessions, according to the source.
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SteveW
February 24th, 2011
10:36 am
We do have 2 second round picks this year and next to sweeten any deal. And both the Suns pick and Houston’s ought to be pretty good, low to mid forties.
ICECOLD
February 24th, 2011
10:37 am
you still got Al Jefferson, Tyson Chandler, Andrew Bynum, Deandre Jordan, Chris Kamen, and so on and so forth… DO something!!! make a big trade.. that other trade didnt even get any reconition on espn… they talkin about the Baron Davis trade, but not the Hawks trade.. they obviously know its a pointless trade unless we get a starting center!!!
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
10:39 am
Hinrich – Voted Captain of the Bulls 4 straight years.
Major’s in Leadership and hustle
Inarguably one of the top 10 defenders amongst PG’s
2nd team All Def. Team 2007
Made the Olympic Team
We will fall in love with his hustle
Smiling Jack
February 24th, 2011
10:46 am
In this case, any trade is better than no trade! Look, last night the Hawks were no worse off with Jeff Teague as the point guard than they have been with Mike Bibby. Jordon Crawford and Jeff Teague really have not been developed as guards by Hawks coaching. There have been other young guards on the Hawks roster in years past that have failed here, but moved on to have success with other teams. Jason Terry is one name that comes to mind, but there have been others.
Steve
February 24th, 2011
10:53 am
The deal wasn’t bad, we gave up Bibby who can’t play defense at all and JC2 who is a scorer but obviously they don’t see much coming out of him and Mo Evans which I am not even sure what he does for the team. They got Hinrich who is a serviceable 1 or 2 guard and got a big which is what they desperately needed, plus Hinrich can play defense.
North over south
February 24th, 2011
10:54 am
Atlanta sport teams are king of bottom of barrel
brandon
February 24th, 2011
11:05 am
Basically all this trade does is the same thing it did in ‘08 when we got Bibby. Hinrich is the same age pretty much Bibby was when we first got him and three years later Hinrich will be the same age as Bibby is now. Also, we had Acie Law at the time and he’s comparable to where Jeff Teague is now. So I guess in 3 years we’ll be essentially look to do the same trade again and have another Law/Teague type at the PG??? I sure hope not. The front office needs to get a young *promising* PG NOW!
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:07 am
Brandon, the difference is Hinrich actually plays defense
S(n)oaring Hawk
February 24th, 2011
11:10 am
Is the atl spirit huffing gas? Why cant we get some good trades? Hinrich is not bad, but the other guy. It reminds me of years past of trading baseball cards. There we people you new were good at trading cards cards and if you were bad at trading cards, do not trade cards!
David
February 24th, 2011
11:11 am
All of you who believe this trade is good should be slapped across the face just like our GM. Granted Bibby blows on defense and hinrich is a plus for the defensive side. But in all honesty lets break the trade down more than that. We just gave up a young talent in jordan crawford who is a pure scorer. We never even gave him a chance to show what he can do. He will be a force in this game at one point in his career. He knows how to score and we gave that up for hinrich and armstrong are you kidding me. Not only that but we gave them cash and a first round draft pick. How in the hell is that a beneficial or an even trade. Im pretty positive hinrich wont be bringing us a championship anytime soon. All in all the hawks front office should be embarrassed. If you want to see how not to run a franchise just look at the hawks.
joey
February 24th, 2011
11:12 am
hawks need to get a real center trade zaza and marvin for al jefferson from utah and get a sm forward role player in exchange
brandon
February 24th, 2011
11:12 am
JeJe, that is true, but we need a PG that’s actually going to stick around for a while. I do like Hinrich, but it feels like it’s the same trade that was done for Bibby 3 years ago in a few areas. His defense will definitely help though.
Gator
February 24th, 2011
11:13 am
Is Hinrich going to coach????
S(n)oaring Hawk
February 24th, 2011
11:14 am
David
February 24th, 2011
11:11 am
Dave, the problem is the Hawks think the have their grown up panties on to play with the grown ups……
Will
February 24th, 2011
11:21 am
This team and ownership, is so terrible and out of touch, with the fans here in Atlanta
Magic Johnson, please buy the hawks, Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!
joey
February 24th, 2011
11:21 am
anyboday hear about the hawks trying to trade zaza with someone else?
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:25 am
Joey – Yes. ZaZa and Sessions salaries match perfectly. I think they may be trying to work out some other details, like including Teague for Manny Harris and Leon Powe or Ryan Hollins.
S(n)oaring Hawk
February 24th, 2011
11:25 am
@joey, some one else? Do not give them any ideas!
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:26 am
Joey – and maybe some of the Hawks 4 second round picks they have the next 2 years….
dmcgourty
February 24th, 2011
11:26 am
Bibby will be missed. It just seems we could of done so much better, shoot even could of gone after Mo Williams. Don’t we still have that trade exception from chilldress too. Childress didn’t even play last night whats up w/ that. You’d think he would wanna put it to us too. Even w/ Bibby gone Teague still didn’t get much playing time. Should of gave them Teague and kept JC2
Horford is our Savior
February 24th, 2011
11:27 am
Atlanta…Imagine if we could buy alcohol on Sunday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOM_UuQzc0
fan of the game
February 24th, 2011
11:27 am
Trade the Head Coach. How do you respect a guy that allows his son to quit? Even he called the coach because his son undoubtedly didn’t have the guts. If he was unhappy he could have finished the year and then transferred. I wouldn’t pay a dime to watch him coach.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:27 am
I liked JC2 also. But LD is obviously a “vet” coach, and doesn’t use the young guys much. He goes with what he knows ala, Bibby and Mo’ over Teague and Wilkens
Time
February 24th, 2011
11:28 am
I have to laugh when I read people on here poopoo’ing the trade just because ESPN is not talking about it.
Probably gave up too much with the first rounder being in there. But recent history says the Hawks would just waste that pick anyways so no matter. Hinrich is probably about as best as you could hope for given what the teams needs are. Nash would have been ideal, and I don’t understand why Pheonix isn’t dealing him. But barring Nash, you needed a hard noses pass first PG who can shoot when needed and not get destroyed on defense every time down the court. I think that’s Hinrich. If Armstrong can contribute at all as a big off the bench I feel like it’s a good trade.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:29 am
Hinrich and Josh may clash. Hinrich will not give the ball to Josh on the perimeter on a regular basis I don’t think.
But Josh and Hinrich will up our D a ton.
Athenzdawg
February 24th, 2011
11:29 am
Sooo we needed help and we got another non pure point who scores less but plays defense more and a five who sees about 1 minute per game because he is a stick with a head on it. WOOOO who is pumped? Really no one? Oh and we gave up another first round pick for both. How bad do you have to be when you can’t even crack the Wizards line up for more than a minute a game….I’m done with this team. Ship them off to Florida or Kentucky and let’s wait until football season again.
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:30 am
Exactly, Time.
Draft picks are worthless with this franchise
JeJe
February 24th, 2011
11:32 am
Got a friend in New Orleans who says Hilton Armstrong has awful hands and sucks
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:32 am
I think Horford may be able to tutor Armstrong and get him on a weight program or something. He probably won’t help us much this year however.
And Teague’s day may be coming. Jamal is gone after this year, so he’ll probably be 1st G off the bench next season. And then Hinrich’s gone after next season. Maybe LD will trust Teague by then.
DHD
February 24th, 2011
11:35 am
Athenzdawg…you MUST be done with the Dawgs as well then…because they suck.
DBall
February 24th, 2011
11:39 am
Fans, please take a look at what’s going on here with the Hawks. From a management standpoint it’s another one & done playoff team. No invest for a championship team to make a run in the playoffs (if they make the playoffs). Enjoy the rest of this short season!!!
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:41 am
Athenzdawg – I think you may change your mind when you see Hinrich play. The guys a competitor.
Trojan
February 24th, 2011
11:42 am
The management of the Hawks are reacting. There is no plan. There is no long term thoughts of having a real center.
To their credit, we now have atleast solid people at 4 positions.
TruAtlFan
February 24th, 2011
11:42 am
as i can see u people on here r blind if yall really think moving bibby is gone help our defense. now tru enough bibby cant gaurd anyone but did you take a look at josh last night. frye cant even put the ball on the floor and josh is playing 4 feet offf he is not a good dfender yall get caught up in all the blocks that he get. ge can have 3 blocks but what about his man getting 20 and 10 every night. we just gave up the best shooter on the floor for us yes he was slumping but u dont get rid of your best three point shooter now who is gone stretch the floor.AND ANOTHER PROBLEM WITH OUR STARTING LINEUP LAST NIGHT THE GAURDS COULDNT EVEN OPERATE BECAUSE THERE R 4 PEOPLE STANDING AROUND THE PERIMETER AND ONE OF THEM IS OUR PF. HORFORD WAS GETTING DOUBLED BY JOSH MAN WHILE HE STAND ON THE WING AND SHOOT JUMPERS DONT GET ME WRONG HE HIT A COUPLE BUT HOW DOES HE MAKE HIS TEAM BETTER.BLAKE GRIFFIN 1ST YEAR AVERAGING 22 AND 10 JOSH BEEN IN THE LEAUGUE 6YRS IS IT HAS YET TO AVERAGE 20 AND 10.TRU STAEMENT JUST CAUSE U DO FANCY DUNKS DONT MAKE U GOOD. LONG AS HE IS IN ATLANTA WHERE HE IS BORN AND RAISED PROBABALY HANGIN OUT WIT THE BOYS DRINKING SMOKING. HE WILL NEVER GROW UP AND REACH HIS POTENTIAL. TRADE JOSH SMITH WHILE HE STILL HAS VALUE THEN WE CAN B A REAL TEAM
ATFail
February 24th, 2011
11:42 am
Trade Marvin for a couple of ham sandwiches and a day pass to Zoo Atlanta
foodfight
February 24th, 2011
11:45 am
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.Sorry,I must have drifted off.
dukester
February 24th, 2011
11:49 am
Sund resigned 3 players a year ago. Bibby, Marvin, and Zaza. I said at that time he set this organization back “5 years” with those signings. The whole “core” thing has come back to bite him. Why are we now talking about trading those same 3 players. Sund should be fired for this reason alone, but he can survive becomes we have ownership that doesnt know any better.
I remember New Orleans traded Tysoon Chandler to Charlotte for a bag of basketballs and they then traded him to Dallas for some old sweat pants Tree Rollins used to wear. Marcus Camby was traded from Denver to Portland for large sprite and some pretzels.
Baron Davis and Deron Williams was traded yesterday at the PG position and we got Kirk Hinrich. I am through with them until this ownership and GM group is gone I will not support this team.
DHD
February 24th, 2011
11:51 am
TruAtlFan: Somebody switched several of your letters on your keyboard.
Where do these people come from? Government schools???
Brandon
February 24th, 2011
11:54 am
At first I was upset that the Hawks through in the draft pick but when you look at how poorly the hawks usually draft it’s not really a big deal. Mike Bibby was given too large of a contract, glad it’s able to be off the books. Now get rid of Marvin.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:56 am
MC, backing up my assessment of the Hawks (and I say LD)
‘Michael Cunningham:
Moving Jordan and the first-round pick is the latest indication the Hawks, when push comes to shove, are more focused on making moves they think will help now vs. player and asset development in the future.”
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
11:58 am
John Hollinger’s reaction to the trade:
“John Hollinger gave the Hawks a B:
As far as need goes, it’s tough to do better than this. Atlanta Hawks fans who have spent half a decade watching their point guards get torched night after night will now have to cope with the shocking sight of Hinrich competently defending opponents at either guard spot.”
sam'
February 24th, 2011
11:59 am
Now I’ll have to learn to spell Hinrich. The question is asked…..how does this make a better team? Well, for months, the point guard issue has been….Bibby is too old (or physically hobbled) to defend other point guards and that kills Atlanta’s defense with other people trying to make up his weakness. Hinrich will solve that problem. He plays defense. The other rap was Bibby doesn’t set up and run the offense in the manner of a physically fit point guard. Hinrich isn’t afraid to hustle and drive and is smart. So, in the short haul, there’s your answer. You now have a point guard and someone who isn’t a defensive liability.
I like Bibby…..but signing a new contract with the Hawks and suddenly “going lame” really screwed this team. I don’t think Sund is to blame for Bibby’s physical problems except maybe lacking the intuition to ferret it out or an escape clause in the contract to deal with something like this.
Frickin’ Evans. He showed he could play a few years ago, then funked out when he was bypassed. Good point……He actually spoke out at one time about the “unspoken problem” with the Hawks. Bad point…..I think he could have been a really good player had he worked harder and stayed focused. just an impression..
JC….probably a better project than Teague….and the first round draft pick…….other bloggers saying the Hawks would probably have screwed that up anyway, so it’s okay…….WRONG……Good teams use their draft picks and develop players or trade up to better picks and then put together a package deal for great players…..though I appreciate the frustration, and why am I on a day old blog anyway?
Just to let you know I don’t think a skinny white guy with guts is such a bad trade even though you lost a draft pick you shouldn’t have…
….
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
12:00 pm
Larry Drew commenting on Jeff Teague last night at Phoenix:
Larry Drew on Jeff Teague:
“I thought he came out aggressive in attack mode and used his speed and quickness. We need that. I thought he did a tremendous job breaking the defense down and getting to the basket. That’s the way he has to play. Don’t worry about turning the basketball over, just keep the pressure on the defense.”
So that’s why you only played him 19 minutes, and not at all in the 4th. Got it.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
12:02 pm
Teague and Sy are now the only 2 players we are developing. And with no 1st pick this year, not much there. We are in win now mode.
Josh
February 24th, 2011
12:06 pm
I hear the Hawks are interested in drafting Romeo Miller out of USC this off-season
DHD
February 24th, 2011
12:06 pm
We could see Sy soon. (did I just say that?)
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
12:07 pm
Love what Hoopinion said about the Hawks and young players:
“When Jordan Crawford saw his playing time decrease upon Joe Johnson’s injury, it appeared he was on the typical young Hawk career path. Who knows what kind of player he’ll become but it’s hard to envision him becoming a useful player here. Same goes for whoever the Hawks would have picked late in this summer’s draft.”
The Hawks just don’t develop young players. They just don’t for whatever reason.
Roundfield
February 24th, 2011
12:11 pm
Trade was good for the WIZ and who really cares anymore anyway?
Hawks are going nowhere! Franchise is doomed to NBA mediocrity.
SteveW
February 24th, 2011
12:11 pm
Here is a Wizard writer explaining why he thinks the Wizards made a lukewarm trade at best:
“Part of my issue here is that I don’t think Jordan Crawford is all that good. Crawford strikes me as one of those NCAA Tournament stars that gets overrated because people see him then. He hasn’t played very much this year, but when he has, it hasn’t been pretty (7.5 PER, 42.1% TS%, an astronomical 27.9% usage rate). Granted, it’s 160 minutes, he’s been hurt and he’s still just 22, but the only real flashes that we’ve seen is him going crazy in a preseason game against the Wizards. I’m also confused about his long-term projected role. Is he a Nick Young replacement? Is he a point guard? Is he instant offense off the bench at a cheaper price than Young? I just don’t see a built-in role for him in the future.”
HawkKingBibby
February 24th, 2011
12:11 pm
I have to change my handl now. Bad trade we gave up way too much for a guy who is washed up.