Atlanta Hawks: Bibby for Hinrich in five-player deal
Loading ...Phoenix–After striking out in their efforts to acquire point guards Devin Harris and Raymond Felton, the Hawks agreed to terms with the Wizards on a trade for veteran Kirk Hinrich and athletic big man Hilton Armstrong, the team announced tonight.
As part of the deal, the Hawks sent Mike Bibby, rookie Jordan Crawford, swingman Mo Evans and their 2011 first-round draft pick to the Wizards.
Bibby, Crawford and Evans were informed of the trade prior to the team’s game against Phoenix tonight. Jeff Teague replaced Bibby in the starting lineup.
Hawks coach Larry Drew declined to comment on the trade before the game because it wasn’t yet official.
The Bulls selected Hinrich, 30, with the seventh overall pick out of Kansas in the 2003 draft. The Bulls traded him to Washington last summer along with Kevin Seraphin.
The Hawks expect Hinrich to shore up their weak perimeter defense, which has put stress on the team defense as players constantly scramble to help against dribble penetration. Like Bibby, Hinrich is a good spot-up shooter but is a better playmaker off the dribble and should help Atlanta’s fast break.
The Hawks also hope Hinrich (6-4, 190), who’s earned a reputation as a hard-nosed player, will provide toughness and leadership. He and Marvin Williams went at it during a game in Chicago last season, with both earning technical fouls.
“I’ve always been a super fan of Kirk,” Williams said. “Watching him at Kansas, he just competes, man. In college, coach [Roy] Williams would always make reference to Kirk Hinrich and say he has that toughness and that attitude.”
Armstrong (6-11, 235 pounds) is limited offensively and doesn’t rebound well for his size. But he’s an athletic leaper who could find a role helping the Hawks protect the rim, which also is a weakness (especially when Josh Smith is not in the game).
“I think in the paint he can block some shots and be able to add that inside presence and help us out down there a little bit,” Smith said.
The trade is another move for the Hawks that could help them now at the expense of future flexibility and development of young players.
Both Armstrong and Evans’ contracts expire after the season. Hinrich is scheduled to make $8 million next season compared to salaries of $6.2 million for Bibby and $1.1 million for Crawford . That would add roughly $700,000 to Atlanta’s estimated $65 million in committed salaries for 2011-12.
The Hawks also had to part with the draft pick and Crawford, whom they acquired in a draft night trade in 2010 after the Nets selected him No. 27 overall. The shooting guard had played sparingly this season, appearing in just 16 of 56 games.
Finally, the trade is the latest indication that the Hawks don’t intend to give Teague a larger role. Teague, the No. 19 overall pick in the 2009 draft, had played in 46 of 56 games for an average of 11.6 minutes entering the game tonight.
The Hawks acquired Hinrich after a wide search for a trading partner in an urgent attempt to acquire a point guard.
A league source with knowledge of Atlanta’s inquiries said the team tried to swing a trade for Harris before the Nets sent him to Utah in a deal that got them All-Star Deron Williams. The source said the Hawks also were rebuffed when they inquired about point guard Raymond Felton after New York traded him to the Nuggets as part of the Carmelo Anthony trade.
The Hawks also had interest in Cleveland point guard Ramon Sessions, according to the source.
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JeJe
February 23rd, 2011
11:15 pm
MARVIN IS GARBAGE AS A STARTER.
BRING HIM OFF THE BENCH WITH JA CRAW AND TRADE SMOOVE FOR A CENTER
Nique's Revenge
February 23rd, 2011
11:15 pm
more trades!!
Section 303
February 23rd, 2011
11:15 pm
Get used to these defeats. Hawks are dead in the water. They’re going to be getting their heads kicked in from now until the end of March.
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
11:16 pm
I don’t mind this trade at all…
I’m glad to see Bibby and Mo Evans go…
But, this trades only good if it’s a stepping stone to another deal.
If this is as good as it gets, we haven’t really gotten anywhere.
But then again, Mo Evans is gone, so that makes my season.
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:16 pm
Sund Gearon LD go kick rocks!!!
Freaking josh just does not get it……..He’s amazing out there. A bipolar baller…
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:17 pm
Let’s see @GSW, @Port, @Den – We could easily go 0-3. 1 and 2 is about the best I see. 2-1 and I’m estactic
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:18 pm
it was a terrible pick proves us right again…………………………….Yawn…………….Thanks Duck………………..You could not throw it in the ocean…Booze and Bball shall never mix………
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:18 pm
how is Josh Smith the center of all the hate? lol. unbelievable.
Harry Hawk
February 23rd, 2011
11:19 pm
I’m sure Kirk Hinrich will make the difference.
He may be a decent perimeter defender, but he’s still not going to break down the opposition. The Hawks really need a guy like that. Maybe they’ll get one…someday.
JeJe
February 23rd, 2011
11:19 pm
WE JUST GOT THOROUGHLY OUTPLAYED BY THE SUNS (WE GOT SEASON SWEPT BY THEM).
THE HAWK KILLER VINCE CARTER HARDLY EVEN PLAYED LOL.
PATHETIC
WE NEED ANOTHER TRADE. WE NEED INTERIOR DEFENSE. GET RID OF JOSH SMITH NOW
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:19 pm
Then it’s the Bulls
Thunder
Knicks
Lakers
@Bulls
Blazers
Section 303 – I think your right
And I think overall, Woody is a better coach that LD
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:20 pm
2-5, 1-6 even with the Hymick maneuver on this disastrous road trip!…….Free fall………………….Stick a fork in this bird…………….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2011
11:20 pm
“how is Josh Smith the center of all the hate? lol. unbelievable.”
Mirror image of the Falcons blog and Vick five years ago. The D would give up 8 yards a carry, the receivers would drop passes that hit them in stride, and the discussion would all center on Vick’s supposed shortcomings. Smoove is nowhere near the talent Vick is, but it’s the same sh-t. Doesn’t matter what the dude does.
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:20 pm
lateral move in picking up another combo guard. who more than likely wont qb the offense. when has Kirk ever done that?
Dept. of Unintended Irony
February 23rd, 2011
11:21 pm
“1-5 in the last 6! Hymick maneuver won’t make a difference!”
Maybe the Heimlich would, lol.
Wasn’t Hymich Heimlich’s next door neighbor?
JeJe
February 23rd, 2011
11:21 pm
WHY THE HELL WAS DAMIEN GUARDING GORTAT EVERY DAMN TIME?
Tremaine
February 23rd, 2011
11:21 pm
LD still has another year left on his contract.
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:22 pm
Aw man, we’re toast. We may end up a 7th seed with a 45-37 record or something. I predicted 46-36 before the season, but then I got my hopes up.
I hope Sund makes some more deals. This one helped, but we need more.
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:22 pm
its still baffling.. clearly the best player next to Nash on the floor.. on “your” team.. but hated on.. pfft. stupid.
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
11:22 pm
Not sure that interior defense has much to do with it…
Not like the Suns torch teams in the post.
We couldn’t contain Nash early. Our rotations beyond the arc were terrible.
Lionhearted
February 23rd, 2011
11:23 pm
bigdave are u related to Osh????
Joe Johnson is The Matt Ryan of The Hawks
February 23rd, 2011
11:24 pm
Joe Johnson is The Matt Ryan of The Hawks ”
Like I said the other day… at least Joe has won a playoff game.
true!
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:24 pm
Lionhearted..
i dont think so.
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
11:24 pm
Damien’s gaurding Gortat because the Hawks were forced to switch.
Earlier in the game, the Hawks were getting torched on those pick and rolls. When they rotated to help out on the pick and roll, Nash would find an open guy beyond the arc, and the Suns weren’t missing many looks tonight.
That pretty much leaves us to switching…
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
11:25 pm
What scares you more? Gortat in the post, or Frye, Dudley, and company lighting us up from beyond the arc?
Lionhearted
February 23rd, 2011
11:25 pm
OMG ya’ll are trying to compare Osh Smith to Vick?
Get the Fugg outta here. Vick is a MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH better football player than Osh is a BBall player.
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:25 pm
Hello Irony.Good to see your still out there? LOL I have a correction to make…..LOL
EmirS.
February 23rd, 2011
11:26 pm
Showcased Josh tonight.
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:26 pm
Hinrich is ok, especially defensively. He’s a step up from Bibby. But he never drives to the basket either.
And Bibby will thrive playing behind Wall
Rev in Tampa
February 23rd, 2011
11:26 pm
I missed the game. Really wanted to see Teague play. It sounds like he had a solid game from the comments, but I am curious – Did he facilitate the offense or defer to the other guys:? Also, how was his defense on Nash?
Roger
February 23rd, 2011
11:26 pm
I’m saying it now: Time to give up the 50-win crown. Most of the team looks like they’ve given up on coach Drew (can’t blame them) and the team. Joe is playing like garbage and showing why his free agent signing this off-season was one of the worst of all time, meanwhile Marvin continues to remind us what a bad move it was to select him #2 overall, and without Bibby to kick around after every loss, most likely Marvin will be taking an even bigger beating from the fans now. Not to mention, Josh will probably get a large amount of criticism. Don’t expect Hinrich to just come in and fix all of this either.
Right now, I’m just trying to decide what the biggest mistake the team made this offseason was. Was it signing Joe to a max contract or was it signing Larry Drew? Both guys have been huge disappointments, but at least Drew’s contract is miniscule and easy to absorb. A real organization would have fired him already. Joe, on the other hand, is virtually untradeable with that awful contract, so I guess Joe’s contract was the worst move.
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm
doesnt seem like players are too enthused about adding a Kirk Hinrich.
looked like the move would’ve been starting Teague and limiting Bibby’s mins.
Tremaine
February 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm
Now we are suppose to believe Kirk Hinrich is our savior, lmao.
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:29 pm
“Joe Johnson is The Matt Ryan of The Hawks”
One slight difference…Matt does not make 500k per night!!! But I see your point!!! Two over hyped over paid athletes that can’t carry their teams to the promise land…….
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:30 pm
Kirk Hinrich Scouting report on SB Nation
Assets * Tough, gritty, and an intense competitor. Has a nice shooting stroke from mid-range and the free-throw line. An excellent passer. Plays above-average man-to-man defense.
Flaws
* Streaky, and commits a few too many turnovers. Not much of a rebounder. Occasionally lets his intensity boil over and takes bad fouls. Too often he falls in love with his three-point shot.
Career Potential
* All-round near-star combo guard & leader.
* Awards2006NBA – Second All-Defensive Team2003NBA – First All-Rookie Team
He also never drives to the basket to draw the foul
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:30 pm
2nd Team All Defensive team – Way to go!
Wabe
February 23rd, 2011
11:30 pm
Tremaine
February 23rd, 2011
11:27 pm
Now we are suppose to believe Kirk Hinrich is our savior
lmao, exactly. If they really are serious about making noise, they’ll make another move. If they don’t, we know how this thing ends. Same ish.
man man
February 23rd, 2011
11:31 pm
we need better play at center and small foward if they think we going somewhere.Hinrich is not the answer so im hoping the hawks are not finished trading.remember hinrich has got replaced by two rookie point guards before.He just couldn’t get the job done.keep that in mine
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2011
11:31 pm
“Vick is a MUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCH better football player than Osh is a BBall player.”
Of course. I was comparing the fan reaction to each of them, not their talents. Vick is an MVP candidate. Smoove is a complementary player.
bigdave
February 23rd, 2011
11:31 pm
Rev..
ive been critical of his lack of aggressiveness etc. but in my opinion he played well. honestly it would have been nice to see him play 35 tonight . however, Damien was a pit bull out there.. and Jamal was knocking down shots. he looked to take his guard off the dribble and did it w/ success. drew a foul or 2.. got good looks @ the basket.. found open man.
was abused by Nash in single coverage.. but who isnt.. looked like a guy who doesnt get much time.. but shows that w/ time he could be good. ya know.. kinda like last year. smh.
oh well..
W.R.Terrell
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
Well the good news is that we didn’t lose by 20 and the bad news is that we lost. The “smoove” played a good game and a stupid game at the same time, go figure. Can Marvin Williams play at all, he rarely scores well, rebounds appear to be a distant thought and his defense is bigtime suspect. We did make a trade, lets see how it goes because it can’t be as bad as we already are. The SOFT’S are one ugly playing team and if management don’t get rid of more of these so-called players they will ruin the one good thing we have and that’s Al. Dump Josh and Joe and Marvin for draft choices and let’s be done with them. Time for some new heroes because we have way too many ZEROES
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
Roger – I say LD was the worst move. A good coach can motivate and unlock JJ’s potential.
Rev in Tampa
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
In the +/- category, the only Hawks player with a positive was Marvin (+8). Yet he went 1-7 with 2 points, 5 rebounds, and 2 assits in 29 minutes. LOL!!!
Roger
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
By the way, forget about homecourt advantage. Unless we got at least the 3rd seed this season, it wouldn’t matter anyway. But, forget about getting the 4th seed. Hell, we might have to fight to even get the sixth seed with the way things are going right now. NY is lacking a lot of things, but they have enough firepower to win a lot of game and they have a great veteran leader with Chauncey now. We have Al and Josh, that’s about it. Joe is playing like he should be in the d-league right now, and no one else on the team is even worth mentioning, unless you want to give Damien credit for his effort. Hinrich is a solid upgrade over Bibby at the point, but he’s going to have a hell of a time trying to compete against elite guards in the playoffs if we make it there. We need something big to go down before the deadline, and we need to get rid of Drew ASAP.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
Andruw Jones is probably a better cross-sport comparison for Smoove than Vick.
Joe Johnson is The Matt Ryan of The Hawks
February 23rd, 2011
11:32 pm
@ Najeh Davenpoop –
The reason this team is so hard on JS and not JJ is because Josh is more emotional and too “R&B/Rap (street player) than Joe.
At least Josh plays with emotions and want to win. Joe Johnson will be the nail in many coffins within the ASG org as a result of his contract, starting with LD/Sund (not sure who will go first)
slimjr
February 23rd, 2011
11:33 pm
” Now we are suppose to believe Kirk Hinrich is our savior, lmao.”
Naw the “Heimlich Maneuver” is probably better than a Ham sandwich..But the meltdown must continue!!!!!!! Yawn……………………
Nique's Revenge
February 23rd, 2011
11:33 pm
ty for your great play tonight josh – boost your trade value
Joe Johnson is The Matt Ryan of The Hawks
February 23rd, 2011
11:33 pm
correction-
@ Najeh Davenpoop –
The reason the fans are so hard on JS and not JJ is because Josh is more emotional and too “R&B/Rap (street player) than Joe.
At least Josh plays with emotions and want to win. Joe Johnson will be the nail in many coffins within the ASG org as a result of his contract, starting with LD/Sund (not sure who will go first)
SteveW
February 23rd, 2011
11:34 pm
Rev – Teague struggled a little early, but picked it up as the game went on. Of course, LD didn’t trust him to play after the 3rd Quarter. But he really kept the Hawks in it in the 3rd. He was the only one trying for a little while actually..