Atlanta Hawks: Point guard search includes Devin Harris

Cali OG

February 22nd, 2011
12:10 am

Uno!!

Cali OG

February 22nd, 2011
12:15 am

Get creative Rick Sund and earn your keep…

Jay

February 22nd, 2011
12:15 am

the hawks better get devin harris for teague or jordan crawford not jamal crawford! the east is getting more intense ! they need to make some trades NOW!!! RICK SUND WAKE UP MAN ! TRADES MOVES !!!

RayBud

February 22nd, 2011
12:24 am

Let’s get harris. Rick Sund, don’t tease us like this!!!! I must say that the Hawks will give up Marvin, Josh, or Jamal to get Harris. They may throw in a player like teague, JC2, bibby, or zaza along with a pick. Someone’s going to be stacked up next year and NJ and Denver futures still look bright.

Worldwide Clyde

February 22nd, 2011
12:27 am

*yawn*

All talk no action

kirkinga

February 22nd, 2011
12:29 am

I know it’s cliche, but in the NBA, no superstars=no championship.

We’ve gotten rid of the excuse that coaching was the limiting factor for this team and now it’s time to face up to some realities that have been apparent for some time, but have been resisted by management and part of the fan base as well.

Clearly the Hawks are going to have to cut into the “core”. I’m not confident Sund is the guy to do the cutting. Then again, we can all just be happy making it (presumably) to the 2nd Round for the next few seasons while the trade value of some players decreases.

Air Zaza

February 22nd, 2011
12:36 am

They are just calling just cause, anyway hire Kevin Pritchard. He could do better than anything we’ve ever had.

qlb

February 22nd, 2011
12:37 am

If you look at the salaries that the Hawks have coming off their payroll over the next season they realistically would have enough money to give D12 a contract comparable to JJ. I would love a twin towers situation like the Spurs had. I hate to admit it but Horford,D12, Marvin, JJ, Sessions would be better than what we have now. I love Josh Smith but he is not working out with the Hawks because they not utilizing him properly. At least with D12 and Al Horford they would play inside out and kick it out to JJ to shoot. Only thing with this they would have to build their bench with not a lot of salary JC2 could replace JC1 though if groomed properly.

Tremaine

February 22nd, 2011
12:37 am

The hawks just became the 6th best team in the east. Time for Sund to earn his paycheck. Harris, Felton, Sessions, Miller are all on the block. Nene would be a nice fit in ATL also.

northcyde

February 22nd, 2011
12:38 am

I’ll believe it when I see it.

But that is the type of player that ( if you’re going to move Jamal ) you should be able to get in return. But a team that says that it’s committed to operating under the Luxury Tax, especially when we have no idea how low the salary cap will be set in the next collective bargaining agreement, would NOT make a move like that.

So as of now, I agree with Clyde

“All talk, no action”

Prove us wrong ASG and Sund.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:38 am

If it can be done without giving up Smoove, it’s a no-brainer.

ReddJonn68

February 22nd, 2011
12:42 am

Without a a bonafide PG, we are not a factor in the East!

Luke M

February 22nd, 2011
12:43 am

I’d be for it. What about Ray Felton? Word is Nuggets are trying to move him.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:44 am

How likely is it that the new CBA even has a luxury tax?

From what I see, it’s only budget-conscious teams like the Hawks that care about the luxury tax in the first place. The big-market, big-spending teams the luxury tax is designed to target, like Boston, LA, Dallas, New York, Miami, etc. don’t seem to give two sh-ts about going over the threshold. From what I can see, the tax seems to hurt small market teams more than it helps them. MC, how likely do you think it is that there is no luxury tax in the next CBA?

Seems to me it would be a better idea to have both a soft cap and a hard cap, where teams would be allowed to exceed the soft cap via the current exceptions, but wouldn’t be allowed to exceed the hard cap under any circumstances.

ole hawk's fan

February 22nd, 2011
12:44 am

The Hawks just dropped below Da Knicks…………………..what else is new. This team will never make it to the eastern conference finals with the current roster. I wish Arthur Blank would buy this TEAM.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:46 am

“What about Ray Felton? Word is Nuggets are trying to move him.”

I’d actually prefer Felton over Harris, considering that Felton is a better shooter and defender. I think his strengths fit the Hawks better than Harris’ strengths. And Felton is plenty quick enough himself, even if he doesn’t have Harris’ quickness or ability to get to the line.

Mike

February 22nd, 2011
12:47 am

Hawks have to do something, they know that now. We cant stay put. Sund, please call NJ, Denver, and Phoenix too. Heck, let talk to Utah while we at it.

Mike

February 22nd, 2011
12:49 am

Oh GS too.

88hawksfan

February 22nd, 2011
12:50 am

That settles it then. Teague is not the future and Bibby is about to be the past. I feel bad for those 2 players, Bibby more than Teague because Teague has not proven himself. Teague is not the point guard of the future for the Hawks. Drafting him was a huge mistake for which we have to atone. Sorry Teague, but you’re just not that good and I am not so into you. Now if we could just kick Zaza’s behind out of town. He served us well in the past, but he hinders us now.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:50 am

Here we go. Let’s make it happen.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4heyrra

I still haven’t given up on getting the expiring players from the Pistons. I really, really think they would help this team big time.

Gilk

February 22nd, 2011
12:51 am

Sund, the fan base is watching! Go get Felton or Harris period. I would prefer Felton. Plus maybe he wakes up old UNC teammate Marvin Williams!

Give up Crawford and Teague (and even a #1 pick) to get back Harris and Petro from NJ or Felton and Birdman from Denver.

No PG, no real threat in da East!

K.W.

February 22nd, 2011
12:51 am

I’ll be surprised if the Hawks actually make a trade.

bigdave

February 22nd, 2011
12:53 am

i think Denver would take Crawford’s expiring for Felton straight up and down..

i want the kid from South Cakalacky, go get Felton.

doesnt he just have another year on his deal?

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:54 am

For that matter, even Andre Miller and Joel Przybilla for Jamal would be a good short term trade for the Hawks.

bigdave

February 22nd, 2011
12:57 am

2 years remaining @ 7 mill for Felton..

shiiiiiiid… thats the move..

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
12:57 am

I say Harris is better than Felton,but as stated earlier, “All talk,No action”..Hawks are the 6th best team in the East, with the Sixers threatening.

Jamal & a 2nd for Harris

Zaza and a first for Robin Lopez

northcyde

February 22nd, 2011
12:57 am

I saw that SI article that Lewis posted in the other thread.

Just so you guys know, this is our overall record in March the past 3 years:

30 – 19

This is our March home record:

23 – 5

Some of you can abandon or doubt the team if you want, but those “good teams” have to come to US, not us to them. We got 12 games in March, and maybe 2 of them are so-called “cake walks”. The rest are against good teams. LOL . . then we play the Celtics on April Fool’s day.

If it’s any time to support the Hawks and go see games, it will be in March. That schedule is absolutely outstanding, if you want to see how the Hawks stand up against the good and elite teams.

Bring those mo-fos on.

mario

February 22nd, 2011
12:57 am

Devin Harris is good but where is the big man we need! Rick Sund if you are reading this we need size hellooooo!

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
12:58 am

The Hawks are toast!!!!!
“Spot on..the easiest schedule by far the first 2/3 of the season, and now the toughest…future opponents are at .550….here we go!”

Yes, the real Hawks will be revealed and it will not be pretty down the stretch! Down goes Frazier!

mario

February 22nd, 2011
12:59 am

Robin Lopez and D. Harris

qlb

February 22nd, 2011
1:00 am

Memphis trying to get rid of Thabeet maybe we can get him for cheap or maybe Marc Gasol he is a 7 Footer. Sund need to make something happen I would like Ray Felton and Denver will be tryin to get rid of him cause they have Ty Lawson.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
1:00 am

“Some of you can abandon or doubt the team if you want, but those “good teams” have to come to US, not us to them. We got 12 games in March, and maybe 2 of them are so-called “cake walks”. The rest are against good teams. LOL . . then we play the Celtics on April Fool’s day.”

“Doubting” and “abandoning” are two completely different things.

I hope the fact that these games are at home matters as much this year as it has in past years. The Hawks under Woody dominated at home and were mediocre on the road. The Hawks this year haven’t played any better at home than on the road, and you could even make the argument that they have been worse.

No doubt there are a TON of good games on the slate in March though. I’ll be there for at least a few of them.

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
1:00 am

11-18 in the playoff’s the past 3 yrs….enough said..

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
1:05 am

The trade machine hasn’t processed the Melo trade yet, but I think Jamal and Teague to Detroit, Prince and a Hawks first rounder to the Nuggets, and Felton/T-Mac/Ben Wallace to the Hawks would work.

EmirS.

February 22nd, 2011
1:05 am

I dont think it’s fair to say “All talk, No Action”. Seeing as tho we have all been on Sund for not even considering making any moves, the fact that he has even “inquired” about getting Harris or even Sessions, shows atleast a bit of progress.

Now given the subject, you all still do realize that getting either PG wont improve us to the status of elite, contenders, or even ECF ready at all. We still have no depth. Unless Sund finds a way to pull a rabbit out of his briefs, I don’t see us as making much noise in the playoffs, until we get depth.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
1:06 am

I just flipped from ESPN to USA right now because I got tired of hearing about Melo, and in the beginning of this Law and Order episode the guy who is about to get murked has a Jamal Crawford Knicks jersey framed on the wall. That was unexpected…

Jamaaliver

February 22nd, 2011
1:11 am

Devin Harris for Jamal Crawford is definitely a good deal for us. It seems to easy, I’m sure NJ would requre some additional compensation in addition to Crawford’s expiring salary.

MC, any chance Ray Felton could be a target of the Hawks?

Is it just me or is NJ’s new owner, the russian billionaire, not doing a very good job of selling his vision of a global leaderin New Jersey.

MJ49

February 22nd, 2011
1:12 am

I Hope The Hawks make a move. Nique hopes they make a move, Mookie & Smitty hope they make a move also, every Hawks contending team seemed to be a move away, And its funny our goal is ECF and Bostons, Miamis, Orlandos, Dallas, LAs, etc focus is getting to the Finals

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Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
1:15 am

Devin Harris, Robin Lopez, Tracy Mcgrady, and Ben Wallace gives us a better chance than what we got and can make some noise..Possibly lose Crawford,Zaza,Evans and Teague if we include picks..

Starters:

1-Harris
2-Joe
3-Josh
4-Horford
5-Lopez

Bench:Bibby,T Mac,Marvin,Wallace

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yodaddy

February 22nd, 2011
1:27 am

make the move….

then buyout Rasual Butler with the trade exception….make it happen

Big Ray

February 22nd, 2011
1:34 am

Some of you can abandon or doubt the team if you want, but those “good teams” have to come to US, not us to them. We got 12 games in March, and maybe 2 of them are so-called “cake walks”. The rest are against good teams. LOL . . then we play the Celtics on April Fool’s day.

If it’s any time to support the Hawks and go see games, it will be in March. That schedule is absolutely outstanding, if you want to see how the Hawks stand up against the good and elite teams.

Bring those mo-fos on.

Northcyde , love the attitude. And I wish you could bottle it and sell it to the team, because what I’m hearing right now is two team captains saying there are no excuses…and that’s about it.

Doubt the team? Yeah, sometimes. Abandon them? Never. But that’s just my own personal view. I get doubts from losing at home by 41 points to a team that isn’t better than you, and from giving up 23 point leads to teams that aren’t better than you.

Hopefully, it isn’t just the fans who show up to see what they’re made of. I think we’d all like it if the team did so as well…

Grandad

February 22nd, 2011
1:40 am

My sincere thanks to Michael Cunningham.
Your work is much appreciated.

Big Ray

February 22nd, 2011
1:42 am

I dont think it’s fair to say “All talk, No Action”. Seeing as tho we have all been on Sund for not even considering making any moves, the fact that he has even “inquired” about getting Harris or even Sessions, shows atleast a bit of progress.

Picking up the phone and talking IS just talking, and not acting. If talk is all that happens, then there is no action. And, it’s not at all hard to pick up the phone and talk. I’m sure you’ve done it plenty of times, probably sometimes just for idle chat. Action is when you commit to do something, and find a way to get it done. Even if it’s not right away.

Now given the subject, you all still do realize that getting either PG wont improve us to the status of elite, contenders, or even ECF ready at all. We still have no depth. Unless Sund finds a way to pull a rabbit out of his briefs, I don’t see us as making much noise in the playoffs, until we get depth.

You are absolutely right. But, this is the kind of move that helps you get started in the direction you need to go in. I’ll give you two examples: the Miami Heat, and now the New York Knicks.

The Heat have enough star power to be a major force in the East, but I don’t think they have the literal “guts” to win it all. By guts, I mean depth. But, they built what they wanted/needed to get things going. Now, they have to fill in the pieces in the offseason.

The Knicks pretty much did the same thing. They made moves to acquire talent such as Stoudamire and Carmelo Anthony. The Knicks won’t win anything of particular note this year, but they’ll be as busy (if not busier) than the Heat this offseason, filling in the gaps.

Of course, Atlant has a lot of the talent they need already. We don’t necessarily need a star player, we have two all-stars and one that is an all-star when his head is on straight (which has been a hell of a lot more often these days than in the past). But, we struggle with the two more important positions in the NBA (center and pg), mostly because our C/PF is a bit on the small side and now has taken that very attitude, and our pg is below what we need him to be.

Getting a better pg sets us up much better for the offseason work. Not getting one does NOTHING for us, now or in the offseason, where moves available now will no longer be available.

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Mitun

February 22nd, 2011
1:49 am

I would love to see Devin Harris to come to Atlanta but we need a big man to matchup Dwight Howard.

here are the following how I would trade players

Hawks received Andrew Bynum, Ron Artest, Theo Ratliff
Lakers recieved Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and Zaza Pachulia

Mitun

February 22nd, 2011
1:50 am

for the PG, I would target Chris Paul during the offseason

tjhook

February 22nd, 2011
2:00 am

Devin Harris for Jamal Crawford?! I love watching Crawford but that deal should be done. PGs are too hard to come by and that argument can be put to bed concerning the Hawks. Harris, Johnson, Smith and Horford is a good promotion to fans. We can search for another scorer off the bench- Hell, we could find somebody from overseas or the Developmental League

Jae Evolution

February 22nd, 2011
2:03 am

Oh man, I was excited at the thought of us acquiring Sessions from Cleveland for minimum, but Devin Harris would completely be the best thing to happen to this team in past years. He would instantly take the starting role from Bibby and if we were to give up Jamal Crawford and say Mo Evans, we could acquire the Rook we drafted originally Damion James, who would be nothing but a bright spot for our future and maybe earn a few minutes here and there.

northcyde

February 22nd, 2011
2:03 am

If I’m Jamal, and I’m thinking about one more big contract, I wonder if he’d be against being dealt to Jersey, and having a chance to show off his skills to them?

At this stage in his career, he probably wants to win . . but as we “heard” at the beginning of the season, he wanted that extension bad. Dealing him to Jersey and showing off for the Russian and Jay-Z may be the ideal scenario in which he can get one last sizeable contract.

@ Najeh . . I know “abandon” and “doubt” are two totally different things. Most of the fans doubt the Hawks, while a select few have and will abandon them. The Hawks are going to need the fans in March though. With most of the games being against high quality opponents, it’ll be interesting to see how much support they get.

LOL @ that Law and Order episode. That’s symbolism right there.

Harry Hawk

February 22nd, 2011
2:08 am

The Hawks ain’t going nowhere. Devin Harris would be a nice piece to add, but this team still ain’t going anywhere. We waited through the Dark Ages of post-Mookie/Deke/Smitty for this. We’re relevant in that we’re a middle-of-the-pack playoff team that shows flashes from time to time. No one outside of a Kool-Aid-induced delusion takes this squad seriously.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
2:09 am

If only Sund used a computer, I would spam the hell out of his email with this.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4heyrra

Harris/T-Mac/Ben Wallace here… Prince/Teague to New Jersey… Jamal/Mo/some filler from NJ to make the deal work to Detroit

Alternately, Felton/T-Mac/Ben Wallace here… Prince and a Hawks first rounder to Denver… Jamal/Powell/Teague to Detroit

If nothing else, this rumor does confirm that the Hawks are willing to at least discuss deals that would put them over the luxury tax for next year. That is a big deal.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
2:12 am

“No one outside of a Kool-Aid-induced delusion takes this squad seriously.”

No team without a legit superstar is to be taken seriously as a title contender, and the Hawks don’t look like they will have a legit superstar any time soon. Solidifying the point guard position, though, will give the Hawks a legitimate shot at knocking out any of the teams ahead of them in the standings in the playoffs. Right now, the Hawks maybe have what it takes to beat Orlando in 7 games if they have home court. With Harris or Felton, the Hawks definitely have what it takes to hang with any East team other than Boston in a 7 game series. Does it necessarily mean they will beat one of those teams? Maybe not, but it makes the Hawks a lot more legitimate.

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
2:15 am

Maybe Crawford signs a MLE and comes back to the hawks next year

Harry Hawk

February 22nd, 2011
2:30 am

We can beat the Magic. I believe that. Whether our players do or not, who knows?

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
2:30 am

GOAT TRADE:

Josh Smith, Jamal Crawford, Zaza a 1st rounder in 2012 and a 2nd rounder whenever they want

for:

Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, and Troy Murphy

Still under cap for the next couple of years by making that exchange.

Harris/Bibby/Teague
Joe/Jordan/Mo
Marvin/Damien/Pape
Al/Troy Murphy/Josh Powell
Brook Lopez/Jason Collins/Etan Thomas

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=45cjce2

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
2:32 am

We want Devin! We want Devin!! We want Devin!!! We want Devin!!!! We want Devin!!!!! We want Devin!!!!!!

vava74

February 22nd, 2011
4:59 am

Najeh,

Your infatuation for T-Mac is delusional.

The guy is a guimp who can’t play any D.

He looked good against us because we did not show up on D.

MsDee

February 22nd, 2011
5:15 am

WOW, Devin Harris to the Hawks would look nice but I believe Teague and Jamal would most likely be out..dont know if I truly want Teague to go..hate to see him turn into a mini-Tony Parker!! Teague is no Acie Law, no matter how many times Teague drive and misses a lay-up, HE NEVER GIVES UP DRIVING TO THE LANE, like Acie would. Teague can AND WILL get it ALL together, weither we are patient enough to work with him til he is all there or we give up on him and let another team do what we just cant seem to do and watch the ‘rook’ turn into an ‘ALL-STAR’..u heard it/ read it 1st right here!!

Eric

February 22nd, 2011
6:36 am

Aaron Brooks is also another player the Hawks are looking at, he’s just as good as Harris and a lot cheaper(5.3 assist 19.6 points last season). It would be a miracle if they got Harris without given up too much, Harris for Crawford would be a wash.

no justice

February 22nd, 2011
6:36 am

MsDee

February 22nd, 2011
5:15 am
WOW, Devin Harris to the Hawks would look nice but I believe Teague and Jamal would most likely be out..dont know if I truly want Teague to go..hate to see him turn into a mini-Tony Parker!!

There’s is a guy named Tony Parker that work a the local Macdonald in Durham NC.. Teague will probably turn into in 2 or 3 years!!

Pipe Dreams

February 22nd, 2011
7:02 am

Adrian Wojnarowski: Dallas, Denver and New Jersey have discussed three-way that would land Harris with Mavs and Felton and Mozgov with Nets, source says. No way Atlanta lands Devin Harris so just stop the dreaming.

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O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
7:05 am

From the previous blog;

Steve W,

I’d rather face the Bulls in the first round. We definitely have more experience than Deng, Noah, and Rose in the playoffs..

Keep in mind that Deng, Noah and Rose all made it to the playoffs the last 2 seasons (although they lost in the first round). They also have Boozer and Kyle Korver, who made it to the playoffs numerous times with Utah.

Both LD and the Bulls coach are rookies. However, Thibodeau has been to the NBA finals at least twice, and won a ring as an assistant with the Celtics. And he learned a lot from Doc Rivers, who gave him lots of input.

LD spent the last 6 seasons with Woody, where (allegedly) a lot of his suggestions were not implemented. So who knows what to expect from him in the playoffs?

And even if we have more experience, our players have not bought into LD and his system completely. The Bulls players have bought in to their HC and his systems (especially on defense, where they are top 10), and they have a star PG.

I think it will be tough for us to beat the Bulls if Rose is on his game.

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
7:12 am

If they’re willing to take Crawford for Harris, I would do that right now! I like Jamal a lot, but adding Harris to the Hawks makes the Hawks a serious threat in the East.

If Sund gets this deal done, he’s made a new fan. I will be in his corner from here on out.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
7:12 am

IMO, “Rick Sund making phone calls about Devin Harris” is similar to the “Rick Sund will interview Avery Johnson for the HC job” situation over the offseason.

Did anybody really think Rick and the ASG was serious in possibly hiring Avery Johnson (who in one year, will make what LD makes in 3 years)?

And does anybody really think the Hawks will pick up all that extra salary of Harris next year? I doubt it. If they make a move for a PG, I think it will be Sessions.

With this Devin Harris conversation, I really think Rick is just covering his bases, so if he doesnt make a move before the deadline, he can say to the fans “we made lots of phonecalls, but we couldnt find a deal that gave us bang for our bucks”.

dirtyo11

February 22nd, 2011
7:14 am

I’ve been crying for D. Harris or Mo Williams but we can’t give up Ja Crawford or J. Smith. give up Teague or Bibby & 1st rnd pick(2011). We would still need to make another move after that to be a true contender in the east. M.Williams, Mo Evans & 1st rnd pick (2012) for Nene&J.R. Smith or Gortat and Petritus(they would love to punish Orlando for trading them to the suns)
C-Nene or Gortat
PF- Horford
SF-Smith
SG-Johnson
PG-Harris or Mo. Williams
Bench-Ja. Crawford, J.R. Smith or Petritus, Zaza, Bibby or Teague
Sund hands are tied…the ownership don’t wanna pay the luxury tax to win…..can we trade the ownership to NJ for their new owner or Arthur Blanks buy the Hawks

Pipe Dreams

February 22nd, 2011
7:17 am

Look people you don’t trade that talented of a player within your conference, that would be stupid!!! If the Hawks make a move on a point guard it’s going to be Ramon Sessions or Aaron Brooks. That’s why New Jersey is trying to send Devin back to Dallas.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
7:17 am

When the Hawks drafted Marvin, they passed up CP3, Deron Williams, and Felton. Right now, we would be better off with anyone of those 3 (imo). Thanks BK.

That being said, CP3 and Deron might be available next offseason, so Sund needs to keep an eye on that situation too

desa

February 22nd, 2011
7:25 am

It is time to make the big play. NJ needs Joe and we need cap space. Make the move Sund. The big FA centers are avaliable (Dalenbert – Deandre Jordan). Josh/Al/Big shotblocking – rebounding center make the Hawks strong. Sending Jamal/Zaza to Orlando for Jason Richardson = more cap space. Orlando needs Zaza now.

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
7:47 am

As much as i like jamal who is my second favorite player behind josh, if it mean giving him up for jamal then do it, devin harris make the hawks a contender day one with a chance at the finals.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
7:48 am

The big four DEVIN, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike is back

February 22nd, 2011
7:57 am

MC, that was music to my ears…WOW finally some buzz from ole Sund…he never plays his hand…so he got me like Keith Sweat…I’m kind of twisted. lol

If we could get DHarris…it would be a win win for both teams…and both players. The Hawks would be getting a capable PG with playoff experience, size, and skills…did I mention dude had some skills.

It would also work out good for Jamal…CUZ, he would be going to an organization with deeeeeeeep pockets…I think young skillful PG like DH would relish an opportunity to play with Josh and AL…this is the most intriguing trade scenario for me.

I’m just encourage to hear that SUND is actually trying to shore up the PG position before the playoff…this deal could answer a lot of question about this organization.

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
8:01 am

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4v4uczy

DJ

February 22nd, 2011
8:05 am

Can we just get a center, please. I think we should go for Nene. Give up Marvin, or Jamal and a draft pick?

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
8:08 am

The trade is good for both team with 3 expiring contract for nets, and the hawks get there point guard who is still young 2 grow with JOSH, HORFORD, JOE, this trade with outlaw coming of the bench with marvin make the bench tall and stronger at BIG GUARD AND SMALLFORWARD with a better defensive team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

jfreak13713

February 22nd, 2011
8:09 am

The Hawks seem to have the right kind of players on their roster to complete a trade for Harris such as Jamal Crawford but the question is will Sund pull the string and of the other teams also interested do they have more or better to offer?

I like the Hawks chances but if I know the Hawks they will go for Sessions because he is cheaper and will probably give up too much to get him?

Devin Harris makes this team for real because he can score, pass and defend. We’ll see!

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
8:10 am

STARTER DEVIN, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, COLLINS
BENCH BIBBY, OUTLAW, MARVIN, POWELL, ZAZA
RESERVE DAMIEN, JC2
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

CJ

February 22nd, 2011
8:11 am

Devin Harris will be traded to Dallas, and all the Hawks fans can keep dreaming about a big trade that will never happen. It’s good to dream though.

Ethan

February 22nd, 2011
8:15 am

This feels bad. This is going to turn out badly…

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
8:16 am

LD have 2 stop playing horford at center and keep him at powerforward, collins is the perfect role player for the hawks in the paint, play the guy LD and stop thinking about offense and think defense first.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

MsDee

February 22nd, 2011
8:17 am

Is it me or do anyone else feels that we are STILL betta than NY? I mean, they gave up Galinari, Chandler,AND Felton for Melo?? Melo couldnt even get his own team many wins with Billups, Nene, JR Smith and company…who is the Knicks bench???? I’m still not scared of NY..really not anyone. We could really use Devin Harris’ skills here with us, though.

I may be drinking that koolaid, but the Hawks are a great team if, and ONLY IF, we truly can totally buy into LD’s system. The ONLY game we played GREAT ON BOTH ENDS OF THE FLOOR was against Utah in Utah. If we can play that way against any and all other opponents, we are than ELITE!!

Tremaine

February 22nd, 2011
8:17 am

“GIVE TEAGUE A CHANCE!”

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
8:28 am

“Your infatuation for T-Mac is delusional.

The guy is a guimp who can’t play any D.

He looked good against us because we did not show up on D.”

I am not asking for him because he can play D. I am advocating a trade for him because he makes the veterans’ minimum, expires after this season, has steadily gotten better as the season has gone along, and can come in and provide a significant chunk of the scoring punch Jamal currently provides. If the Hawks were to deal Jamal, they obviously would miss his bench scoring. T-Mac would replace that to a huge extent for a minimum salary.

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
8:31 am

Don’t be fooled by Sund BS. He’s covering and I am sure his people read the AJC blogs where he is getting lit up!!!
This guy is as JeJe put it, is one of the worst GM’s in 31+ years!!! He’s made one significant move in 3 years????? Are you kidding me?? This buster has won nothing in 31 yrs.. Playoff?? PLAYOFFS???.
Sund= kick rocks when your contract terminates this year!!! BUSTER…. Got pictures???? YAWN….

MsDee

February 22nd, 2011
8:35 am

@Tramaine,

Too late to take a chance on Teague at leading the way in the 2nd half of the season. LD should have started Teague from the beginning! The way you develop a rookie PG like Teague (and yes, he is still a rookie since he was totally ignored all last season) is to start him with very limited minutes to get his feet wet with the starters in the beginning of the season. If he causes CRUCIAL TO’s at the wrong time in the game, THEN you pull him, same goes with Josh Smith as well. That way, Teague would be expecting to play, while improving on his game AND gaining confidence at the same time, To test Teague now, would be a big mistake. Too much pressure for him to be successful would take over his mind and cause too many mistakes. I feel sorry the him, though!!

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
8:38 am

next up, the Lakers tonight! Question is will it be competitive? Doubt it….especially after an extended layoff with drinking and partying. Questions is by how much will the Hawks lose by? 10?20?25?30? Oh and its a ” Fan Night” game on NBA TV. Let’s hope they don’t embarrass themselves on national TV..Not like they really care?? Right ISO JOE?? BTW your shot is off to the left Joe. Fix it quick?? Will ya???
Sund=KICK ROCKS!

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
8:46 am

Sund’s contract expires at the end of the season! YEAH…………………………………….

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
8:47 am

Now if only Gearon and his ole boys would kick rocks also….Chumps……………

The Point Forward » Posts Latest Trade Chatter: Tuesday, Feb. 22 «

February 22nd, 2011
8:51 am

[...] Michael Cunningham, Atlanta Journal-Constitution: It seems Hawks GM Rick Sund has cast a wide net in the team’s search for a bona fide point guard. In addition to Cleveland’s Ramon Sessions, the Hawks also have inquired about New Jersey’s Devin Harris. Those discussions could pick up now that Harris won’t be going to Denver as part of a deal for ‘Melo, who was traded to the Knicks tonight. … It’s not clear whom the Hawks would offer for Harris. Jamal Crawford seems to be the obvious candidate because his expiring $10.1 million contract would allow the Nets to carve out even more cap space for next season — they have just $37 million in committed salaries. Also, the Nets are said to be one of the teams interested in signing Crawford if he becomes a free agent this summer. But so far there’s been no indication that Sund is looking to move Crawford. [...]

observer

February 22nd, 2011
9:02 am

Based on the fact that the building is less than half full when the Hawks play I think most people in Atlanta could care less whether the Hawks make a trade or not, or even whether the NBA is in Atlanta.

HoosierHawk

February 22nd, 2011
9:05 am

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4msr7hr

Make this happen sund. They want to give up outlaw anyway because he has underperformed relative to expectations. Marvin and Jamal for Harris and Outlaw. Outlaw woul be a solid backup SF. I am not at all for starting Mo Evans, but since we have been using the big lineup a bit anyway, and Joe is a capable 3, I like this. Plus Bibby can play off ball with Teague or on ball with Jordan.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
9:06 am

“Is it me or do anyone else feels that we are STILL betta than NY?”

Right now, yes. If the Knicks find a way to sign a big time guard in free agency at some point, then no.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:16 am

Trading Jamal for D.Harris is not bad

IF we can include one of our PGs too. Get rid of Bibby. Try get someone else on their team

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:17 am

Sund is one of those people who waits and waits and waits and waits and then acts like there were no good moves out there.

THERE’S A POT OF GOLD OUT THERE WAITING TO BE TAKEN

FIRE SUND

kjb

February 22nd, 2011
9:25 am

Get your PG now, then bring Dwight home in 2012 when he’s free!! PG Devin,CP3 or D Will, SG JJ SF Josh PF AL C Dwight!what a lineup!! What yall think?

Carmelo Anthony goes to New York -- will Hawks respond? | Jeff Schultz

February 22nd, 2011
9:29 am

[...] as general manager Rick Sund has spoken to Cleveland about Ramon Sessions and New Jersey about Devin Harris, according to our Michael Cunningham. But the fact is, Sund was pursuing a deal, anyway. The trade of Anthony to the New York Knicks [...]

SLAM ONLINE | » Hawks, Mavs, Blazers Looking at Devin Harris

February 22nd, 2011
9:31 am

[...] trade deadline; determining his new address, however, is not so easy: Dallas, Portland, and Atlanta are all reportedly interested. From the AJC: “It seems Hawks GM Rick Sund has cast a wide net [...]

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:32 am

FIRE RICK SUND. EVEN IF HE TRADED MO EVANS FOR LEBRON & D.WADE, THAT WOULD NOT MAKE UP FOR HIS FAILURES AS GM

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:34 am

Sund said it’s up to the core to execute, but we are in trade rumors. WHICH IS IT?

D.Harris is a nice player and one of the fastest, but isn’t he pretty frail?

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:34 am

42% from the floor

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:36 am

Even if we get a PG, we still need a center.

TRADE SMOOVE FOR ANY SERVICEABLE CENTER. THAT HEALS ALL WOUND. YOU CAN MOVE HORFORD TO PF AND MARVIN CAN STAY AT 3.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:38 am

I like D.Harris, but how about Kyle Lowry. Is A.Brooks done there?

How about Udrih? Luke Ridnour? These guys cost much less

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:38 am

I’d offer a Jamal package for Ty Lawson and try Chris Andersen and see if he can rejuvenate himself

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:41 am

If we trade for D.Harris though, won’t our payroll be over the LT next year/we’d have no money at all to spend on free agents (which would be just the usual scrubs we sign)? I remember we did save some money last summer so let’s see what BASG and Rick Stunk can do

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:42 am

To get Devin Harris, give up as many picks as needed. Picks are worthless with this horrendous management selecting them.

Get rid of Bibby, package Jamal, and try get another player from NJN and we’re money

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:43 am

I bet Sund is more interested in getting Petro back (he drafted him in Seattle, LOL) than Harris. I’d try get Vujacic or Stephen Graham

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
9:44 am

I #own this blog

Hoops

February 22nd, 2011
9:46 am

JeJe,

You need a job!

hawks_4_life

February 22nd, 2011
10:03 am

lol

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
10:05 am

Najeh,

It’s not like Jamal plays any D either, but we are still paying him $10.8 mil.

Also, T-Mac has more fans than Jamal. Despite being injured last year, he was almost voted into the all-star game (although a lot of those fans were probably Chinese due to the Yao connection). Marketing wise, he would provide a little boost (imo), because a lot of casual fans know T-Mac.

And if he plays well, we could resign him for cheap next year (to share the bench SG role with Jordan).

As for the Knicks, CP3 already said (at Melo’s wedding) that he would like to play there, and he could be available in the next year or 2. There was also a rumor that Deron Williams is interested in the Knicks as well, and he might be available in the next year or 2 as well. And the Knicks dont care about the luxury tax, so they will spend whatever it takes.

I think in 2 years, the Knicks will be competing for a top 4 seed.

Wink

February 22nd, 2011
10:09 am

Enter your comments here

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
10:14 am

“And the Knicks dont care about the luxury tax, so they will spend whatever it takes.”

I really hope for this reason that the next CBA has a hard cap and not a luxury tax. The luxury tax hurts the teams it is trying to help.

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
10:15 am

Does anyone in their right mind actually think that the Hawks will go into luxury tax (next year) for Devin Freakin’ Harris? Seriously?

Get a grip folks. Some of you are so excited at just a hint of something different that you are clouding your reason.

Anything the Hawks do, if they do anything at all, will be predicated on staying under the luxury tax in the future.

Rufus1

February 22nd, 2011
10:15 am

Devin or Sessions

I think the only way the Hawks get Harris is if Troy Murpky comes with him….Jamal, Teague,Mo, Zaza/OR BIBBY and 1st gets the Job done.

I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS, IF WE GET HARRIS AND MURPHY WE ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE EAST AND TITLE CONTENDERS.

Murphy is a 3pt shooting, rebounding 6′11 monster. That would solve our PG and center problem in one move. We would also have the best starting 5 in the East.

Harris, Joe, Josh, AL and Murphy…Wow

My money is on Sessions.

Rufus1

February 22nd, 2011
10:16 am

Harris and Murphy keep the Hawks out of the Lux tax.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
10:38 am

Look at the avaiable point guards and you tell me which one fits with Larry and his principles?

1) Andre Miller – ranked in stats way ahead of any of our on the wish list. Miller getting Top 5 accolades, and this is without a 3 pt shot.

http://3behindthearc.blogspot.com/2011/01/2010-11-mid-season-nba-point-guard.html
2) I say Ray Felton is the best fit for Larry. NOTE: Fire sale in Denver. Get ready….
3) Aaron Brooks – I will slot him ahead of Harris because he is not a current starter. He will be available for less than Harris. Plus, we could use his SF, Battier.
3) Devin Harris – Isn’t his defense questionable? I always thought he was weak in steals?
4) Mo Williams – I wouldn’t come close to bringing him in…he has been much worse in Cleveland than any other stop.

Now, rankings from the above link?
Miller @5
Harris @19
Felton @26 – right beside Ty Lawson..Denver won’t keep both
Bibby @33 – surprise!
Brooks @39 – my wish
TJFord @52, MoWilliams@54 and another wish of mine Dragic @60 (neverminde on this one)

Miller’s weakness? 3 pt shooting…his contract is as favorable as Felton….next year @7.8M

Miller or Felton for me with Brooks as a cheap alterative. Sure wish we could have done this this past offseason?

Sund, its time to break your rule of moves during the season…it sure sounds like you didn’t prepare for this situation. Your excuse? Well, Melo is holding up any of my deals I’m doing…blah blah…

I will say since Billups can’t be gotten, Miller might be a good matchup…an older Deron Williams IMO.

Wally Walker

February 22nd, 2011
10:38 am

Hopefully, there’s some legitimacy to the Hawks interest in Harris. It has been reported for months that NJ was interested going after Jamal in Free Agency. Although, it will probably require a second player to make the trade. Teague or maybe a second round pick, remember NJ already has Farmor( a young pg). Also, maybe add MO and Powell to the deal for Humphries(PF).
With this trade, hopefully, Marvin can becomes the next 6thMOY;he shined in this role in college. Or the Hawks could accept the trade offer from LAC – Gomes(SF – 4mil), C. Smith(PF – 3mil expiring) and 2nd round pick. Smith’s contract gives the Hawks money they would need to cover Harris’ salary increases.
Pryzbilla’s contract(7 mil expiring) is on the block with Portland; he could be a rental for Marvin. Portland needs a small forward and is revamping their team. Marvin is from the area, 24 years old with potential and desparately needs a fresh start. This could be win win for both team; Marvin could find his way and the Hawks get a Center for the playoff run and major cap space next year.

Do Something!

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
10:39 am

“JeJe,

You need a job!

”

I am a student.

I am also a Student of the Game.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
10:40 am

Rufus I agree. Send them all our trash and get those 2 guys. Bibby can come off the bench for them (can Farmar start in this league consistently though?) and get rid of ZaZa (he blows)

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
10:40 am

Notice I have no interest in Sessions? I think its because he is in Cleveland and he really doesn’t help them much.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
10:44 am

“Notice I have no interest in Sessions? I think its because he is in Cleveland and he really doesn’t help them much.”

Or maybe it’s because Cleveland has a good player out for the year and a PG riddled by injuries
Sessions has dropped 24 DIMES in a game before. Go look it up

AND SUND SAID THE ONUS IS ON OUR PLAYERS. SO WHY IS HE SEEKING TRADES? MAKE UP YOUR MIND.

FIRE SUND

Wink

February 22nd, 2011
10:53 am

Let the Sund shell game begin! This guy just woke up to stir the pot. He will not land Devin Harris because we want make a serious attempt to get him. If Devin leaves NJ he will be going to Dallas. Sund will not spend the money on Devin and end up in the Luxury Tax, which could get him fired early…see it’s all about job security with Sund.

Sund will finish this contract with the Hawks and take his story to the next interview for GM job. He will use the Hawks party line…We improve our record every year, we kept our core together, which gave us the continuity to remain in the top of the Eastern Conference playoff race. While Hawks management gives their blessing.

Some have said that we are still better than the Knicks, even with the Melo trade…are you serious! Way too much Kool-Aid.

Chauncey Billups @ PG – who on the Hawks will stop him. Granted he 100 years old, but he’s in shape—played in the high altitude of Denver most of his life. He will blow past Bibby and post Teague up…Has the rep of Mr BIG SHOT!

Landry Fields @ SG – the amazing rookie. He will be ROY or runner up to Blake Griffin. He will occupy JJ’s time on offense and is quite capable of playing D on JJ. Plays with a tremendous amount of CONFIDENCE, while HONESTLY, you can’t say the same thing about JJ.

Amare’ has already got Horford shaken a bit. Horford will go hard in the paint on Amare’, but Amare’ is a little more FLUID in his game than Horford, advantage Knicks. (This falls under the category of any given game, but waited toward Amare’)

Melo, the reason for all the fuss, is a TOP 5 PLAYA (Size, Agility, Inside, Outside, Rebound, Get to th Line, Defend a Little) a 5 Time All Star, while Marvin nor Josh can guard this guy; by the way no All Star appearances between them.

Not sure who their center is (Eddie Curry) if healty, but we do not have a center either so it’s a wash, or maybe it’s our one advantage if Horford is in the middle.

Corey Brewer would most likely take up the challenge of guarding Jamal, he would be their best on ball defender. We could possibly gain an edge here but Jamal would have to work for it. Of course, if we make some kind of trade, then Jamal’s not here. Insert Marvin, then advantage goes to Knicks…Brewer would shut him down.

In my opinion the Knicks have just gotten better; Chicago & Miami have already leap frogged us because they improve their rosters; Boston & Orlando were already ahead of us and they upgraded their rosters.

Anyone, who says the Hawks as currently constructed is better than these teams in the Eastern Conference must surly work for the Spirit Group and gets all their tickets,food & drinks for FREE.

Without changes made to the current roster the Hawks are headed for the 6th seed, which in hindsight for the playoffs, might be their best position to finish; which should give them Chicago or Miami. This should make the games a little more interesting to us fans, but the Hawks still exit in the 1st Round.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
10:54 am

Jeje, hard to determine if a PG like a Sessions or a Harris would be good for this team. They really don’t do much for their current team as far as wins, and I would just prefer someone who does get you wins in any situation. I think Andre Miller is like that…Aaron Brooks has done that, and yes he had McGrady and Ming….I just feel you have to get a PG that continues to be involved with wins.

Sessions and Harris don’t bring that here….and I know JC1 didn’t bring a winning experience with him, hence why he may no longer be here. JC1 didn’t do anything in the playoffs last year for sure.

Matt B.

February 22nd, 2011
10:55 am

Please dont get ramon sessions… he’s a small 2g, and thats the last thing we need over here.

HawkKingBibby

February 22nd, 2011
10:57 am

Smoove and Teague for Harris and Favors. Get it done Gearon.

Rufus1

February 22nd, 2011
10:59 am

I think a trade will happen.

The Clipper rumor is a prelude to a trade I think is already on the table. The preference for ASG is to stay under the Cap. If they Could have traded Marvin to the Clippers, we would already have the PG.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:00 am

Wink, you talk about confidence? I don’t think Joe lacks one iota of confidence. He is the only guy on this team other than JC1 that exudes confidence.

Eddy Curry is Minnesota’s problem now….and yes, the Hawks appear headed for the 6th seed as currently constructed.

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:00 am

Well, we could really remake the Back court couldn’t we? Felton, Miller, Harris, Sessions all available. Give me Felton and Sessions for the whole lot of Bibby, Teague, JC2, Jamal and call it a day. You’ve got 2 PG’s who are 26 and 24. Your set for a long time.

I’ve been sayin’ that Russian guy is going to overpay for Jamal for a long time. Seems like it may be about to happen.

Boy, if we can somehow move Bibby in all of this carnage, so much the better. Please, no posts on the greatness and value of Bibby. I’ve heard it all by now I think.

Wally Walker

February 22nd, 2011
11:00 am

Rufus 1,

You are on the money! Again, this is a deal which is a WIN WIN for both teams. NJ wants a Fresh New look for the NYC(Brooklyn). They have attempted all year to move Murphy and his salary. Jamal, MO, Teague (14.8 mil in expiring), and ZaZa (3.3 is cheaper than Bibbly) but Bibby’s contract will be easier to move next season. The #1 pick means nothing in this year’s draft.
Make this deal happen, today!

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:01 am

SUND GET IT DONE

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:03 am

Unfortunately the only contract that works with Harris is Marvin. Maybe giving up Marvin is worth it. But the salaries, esp. long term, are a near perfect fit.

Marvin and Jamal for Harris and Murphy. We get another big to throw out there.

Maybe the Nets will slip us one of their 5 first picks they’ve got coming over the next 2 years also.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:03 am

GET RID OF THE TRASH (MO, BIBBY, ZAZA) AND TRADE JAMAL (WHO WE ALL LOVE MOSTLY) FOR DEVIN HARRIS AND TROY DOUBLE-CLUTCH MURPHY

PLZZZZZ

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:03 am

Since so many here are dissing Zaza, are you saying that you would move him for Thabeet? Najeh, you can’t answer that! I already know your prespective.
I would bring Thabeet off the bench and take a shot with him….his size does it for me…..and I’m not privy to Gearon’s checkbook. Getting him in there with Al or Smoove might just pull something out of him to be a defender….I sure have more hopes for him than I have ever had for Kwame.

Nets moving Devin Harris (Yahoo! Sports) « Top Sports Hub

February 22nd, 2011
11:03 am

[...] the Atlanta Hawks have “inquired about” Harris as well, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The paper reports that the team has also [...]

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:05 am

Devin Harris, 9.3 / 8.5 the next 2 years…not as favorable as Miller or Brooks.

But any move other than that crappy Clippers rumor is probably a better move.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:06 am

Cowherd just said today that the reason the Russian was shut out was he doesn’t use a computer!

Now where have we heard that before?

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:06 am

Clippers rumor is HorseIsh….Trade Marvin for two 6″7 players. LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
11:07 am

“AND SUND SAID THE ONUS IS ON OUR PLAYERS. SO WHY IS HE SEEKING TRADES? MAKE UP YOUR MIND.”

It’s all about absolving himself of responsibility. By saying the onus is on the players, he lowers expectations for himself, so that even if he makes some small lateral move people won’t blame him.

I can’t stand Rick Sund. Seriously.

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:08 am

Bibby to tutor Ty Lawson, Mo for an expiring, our 2011 1st pick, Suns 2011 2nd pick, Rockets 2012 2nd pick for Dennis Felton.

Then we’ve still got JC2 and a 2nd pick to ship to the Cavs for Sessions.

And we get to keep Jamal, Teague, and Marvin for this season, and Teague and Marvin for beyond.

Man, now if we can just talk the Nuggets into it. They’re just wanting 1 Nets 1st pick for Felton, maybe they would take the above trade. The salaries work. Maybe even throw in a 2014 first pick in order to get Felton.

We would be set next season with Felton, Sessions, Teague, and JJ in the Back Court.

Take the deal Nugs!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
11:09 am

“Najeh, you can’t answer that! I already know your prespective.”

Thabeet is one of the few players in the league who is more useless than Zaza, but at least his contract is one year shorter. Honestly, asking me to pick between those two is like asking me whether I’d rather have AIDS or Ebola.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:11 am

A recent CBA rumor suggests that as part of the upcoming potential lockout is that the league wants a college player to wait 3 years and the players want 0. This is just getting started on the CBA differences.
College basketball becomes much better, but hard for me to see a 3 year rule hold up.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:13 am

SteveW, I am sure you meant Raymond, not Dennis, but around these parts, Dennis isn’t the best name to throw out there.

If we can get a top tier PG, 15 or higher, than I would give up that 1st rounder because we aren’t exactly getting anything done with it if we keep it! See Teague and JC2.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:14 am

Cowherd talking Rubio….making jokes…..it got me thinking…wanna bet Rubio ends up in New York this next offseason if they are still open for business?

When he describes Rubio, he reminds me of the one and only, Pistol Pete.
zits and all hair….haha.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:16 am

Deron or Cp3 will be on the Knicks in 15 months or less. Probably wait til the offseason so the KNicks don’t have to trade more players

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:16 am

“JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:06 am
Clippers rumor is HorseIsh….Trade Marvin for two 6″7 players. LOL”

Jeje, that has BK written all over it…you don’t think he is helping out behind the scenes do you?

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:16 am

“Honestly, asking me to pick between those two is like asking me whether I’d rather have AIDS or Ebola.”

LOL Najeh is on a roll today

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:17 am

KevinM,

I was disappointed we traded Acie and Speedy for Jamal. Wouldn’t BK have wanted Brandon Wright?

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:18 am

Get a job JeJe

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
11:18 am

I’ll be giving an NBA Chat later today on this blog. Have questions ready. I request a $20 PayPal fund transfer for your questions to be answered.

Best,
Rick

Rick Sund (the guy with 31 years of NBA Experience)

February 22nd, 2011
11:19 am

Why are you all so MAD? Can’t you see we are an ELITE team?

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:19 am

You know, with all these home games, perhaps we can keep ahead of the Knicks for the 5th slot, even if we don’t get a deal done? There’s 5.5 games between us and the Knicks have some learning ahead of them.

What’s sad is that you can throw stars together and they can jell faster than any other sport.

Rick Sund (the guy with 31 years of NBA experience)

February 22nd, 2011
11:19 am

Get a Job JeJe

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
11:20 am

Rick doesn’t do technology….

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:20 am

To get Felton – The Nuggets want picks, ATL has picks.

1st pick in 2011
1st pick in 2014
Suns 2nd pick this year from the Childress trade
Rockets 2nd pick next year from the Andersen trade
Bibby to back up and tutor Ty. He would thrive under George Karl, just like Chauncey has.
And Mo’ for an expiring

A lot to give up – But to get Dennis Felton, I’d do it.

Then JC2 and even a couple of 2nd picks for Sessions. Throw in Sy and Gladyr if they want more young “talent”. Our Trade Exception allows the above trade to work with salaries.

ASG would go into Luxury tax for the right player(s). The above is about as “right” as it gets in this League. We add about 5m total to next season – 2m in the difference between Bibby and Felton’s salaries, and 3m in the difference in Sessions and JC2 salary.

But we save by not having a 1st pick, and signing DLeaguers for 473,000.00

Then, next – Go sign Da’Sean Butler!!!

And next season, I say get Kwame for the vet minimum, Solomon Jones if you can for the same, re-sign Collins and you’ve ZaZa, you’ve at least got a respectable C position. The C position is so weak in the NBA right now, even Kwame is serviceable right now.

Let’s win a championship Mr. Sund. You’ve been hiding in the bushes. Now’s the time to strike!

Rick Sund (the guy with 31 years of NBA Experience)

February 22nd, 2011
11:21 am

“The Nuggets are not looking to deal Raymond Felton or Wilson Chandler, who were also acquired in the Anthony trade, a league source told Bucher.”

That’s okay though. Adding Felton to this team and getting rid of Bibby does NOT make us better

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
11:25 am

Who exactly is New York’s starting Power Forward?
FIRE DREW

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:28 am

KevinM – You are exactly correct about Raymond Felton – thanks.

I like Dennis Felton though, tough luck at UGA however

cdog

February 22nd, 2011
11:29 am

if the GM was frank wren or dimitrof i would be excited but this the dope rick sund.don’t get your hopes up with sund.he’s not going to do anything.he’s just sitting there with a cell phone stuck in his ear, doing nothing and drawing a paycheck for nothing

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
11:32 am

Harris could help us show you fans why there is much UPSIDE to this team, but with Mike Bibby who I told you in the hoops world article is in HIS PRIME, we may not need Devin Harris. Teague still has great POTENTIAL. We have to maintain our goal which is to IMPROVE each year.

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:34 am

Jamal and Marvin for Harris and Murphy – salaries work out near perfect. Maybe the Nets sneak us one of their 5 first picks they have over the next 2 seasons.

And maybe we can re-sign Murphy for 2 year vet exception at a couple of Mill per year.

Murphy
Al
Smoove
JJ
Harris

Decent starting 5, with Bibby, Teague, JC2, Mo’, Wilkens, Powell, Etan, Collins, and ZaZa on the bench. Not bad. Maybe Teague finally gets some burn. I doubt it.

Maybe throw Bibby and a 1st pick at the Cavs and see if they take it for Sessions. The salaries would work with the Cavs massive Trade exception.

I’m still trying to figure out a trade where we get Favors. Future All Star right there.

Veteran Fan

February 22nd, 2011
11:34 am

Blockbuster trade! JJ, Josh, Bibby, Zaza, and Marvin for Lopez, Favors, Harris and two # 1 picks! We get center and pg we need and Favors for Josh is close. Have the money to sign Jamaal and Jordan gets more minutes! Front line is solid for years and good draft picks can be used for another scorer or a trade. NJ gets big name players to compete with Knicks and a dunker in Josh to bring them into the new arena in Brooklyn!

JoJo the Godfather

February 22nd, 2011
11:36 am

I like Jamal Crawford, Mike Bibby and picks for Devin Harris & Travis Outlaw.

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
11:37 am

After this road trip, don’t forget to attend the CHICK-FIL-A family night here at the HIGHLIGHT FACTORY.
That will be 4 drinks, 4 popcorn, 4 sandwiches all for ONE GREAT price.

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
11:37 am

Bibby is a FACILITATOR who CREATES OFFENSE for other players. He is VERY ATHLETIC and ASTUTE and VOCAL on the court.

Michael Gearon Jr.

February 22nd, 2011
11:39 am

Rick,

You are a GENIUS.

Melvin

February 22nd, 2011
11:42 am

If the Hawks acquire Felton or Harris, I would rather they get rid of Bibby than Jamal. Matter of fact, I can’t see them committing to pay Bibby and another PG big money with Al due for a raise starting next season. That’s alot of money invested into the PG position.

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:42 am

Objective analysis on the Knicks trade:

Billups is not a up and down the court player. D’Antoni is an up and down the court Coach. Problem #1

Carmelo is the one of the best half court scorers in the game. D’Antoni does not Coach for the half court game. Problem #2

Billups, Carmelo, and Amare are one of the best 3 player combos in the game. Plus 1

Landry Fields is a great role player. He’s what Marvin should be for the Hawks. Plus 2

The Knicks have no bench. Problem #3

Conclusion. The Knicks will be better. Billups will be the catalyst that helps make that happen. How much better? Not better than the Heat, Celtics, or Bulls. Maybe equal with the Magic. Maybe a little better than the Hawks.

Can they catch the Hawks for the 5th seed? Maybe, but it will be close. The Hawks after this road trip have 12 of 15 at home in March. That counts for something.

And the Knicks have been punishing Amare with minutes. How long can he hold out? And if D’Antoni does the same with Carmelo, can he hold out, because he’s a little prone to nagging injuries.

But Billups will be Billups. But can he take the up and down style every night? We’ll see.

SteveW

February 22nd, 2011
11:46 am

And whoever said that Landry Fields would be ROY or at least 2nd, that only happens if Blake, Wall, and DeMarcus all go down with injuries. All would probably finish ahead of him right now.

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
11:54 am

We have had a winning record 12 months in a row. Or whatever I said. I have an ASG Intern looking up these stats for me as I eat this Big Mac at Mickey D’s

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
12:00 pm

SteveW, you keep putting out optimism out there for Sund’s goonies to read, and he will start feeling better about what he has given Larry to work with.
You’re right about the Knicks; their schedule will dictate how much ground they make up, because you know we will have a few clunkers in there. Melo will go max minutes to make up for the loss of those side items Amare was working with. Looks like Billups will need Toney Douglas to step up for 10-15 mpg, but I still like their makeup they have put together in a pinch.
They’re big 3 immediately rivals our big 3 plus…they need Fields to keep playing well, Corey Brewer to help in small spots, Douglas to keep it together while big shot Bob is exhaling….I like their chances to get into the 5th slot….and perhaps the 4th should Orlando not come together any better than they have. They need help still.

The Truth

February 22nd, 2011
12:02 pm

“Atlanta Hawks: Point guard search includes Devin Harris”

Haven’t I heard this “Sund” before? Wasn’t the Hawks management also playing mind games with the fans pretending to pursue Shaq with no real conviction in signing him? It is appeasement 101. So to those bloggers who insist on giving Sund a pass in his inept in managing this team, I say look no further in his acquisition process and his inability to acquire talent. During his tenure as the Hawks GM, Sund has been responsible for delivering more excuses to the team than quality players. Some would suggest he is just carrying out the wishes of ownership in during nothing. I say “that’s bullsh!t because at the very least he is paid to give his insight and recommendations. But maybe he is doing his job providing this and we are experiencing his results, nothing. I give him little credit for the Crawford deal since that was more of a misstep by Nelly who just didn’t like Crawford’s game and was desperate to move him for anything (IMO). The idea that he is doing a masterful job managing the team’s cap is also a stretch. Really; how hard is it to acquire mediocre players for the vet minimum? He is already on record saying “he likes the core” and “Bibby is a premier PG” (or something similar) Would those Sund huggers say he was seduce by his bosses to say that? Every time he opens his mouth and/or does nothing, he validates the negative perception of him. If you’re still not convince reading his lips, well then, just watch his hips because actions (or inactions) speaks louder than words.

Rev in Tampa

February 22nd, 2011
12:06 pm

@Rick Sund,

“Bibby is a FACILITATOR who CREATES OFFENSE for other players”.

Scratch the last word “players” and substitute “team”

Bibby is a FACILITATOR who CREATES OFFENSE for other TEAM

Rick Sund

February 22nd, 2011
12:07 pm

The Truth,

Can’t you see the BIGGER picture?

We have an elite core that has done EXCEPTIONALLY well after the 1st round in the Playoffs the last 2 years. We are sniffing a championship with this elite dedicated bunch.

Horford is an OUTSTANDING VOCAL defender, and ZaZa gives us that Charles Oakley-type player we’ve always needed.

To change your mind, I’ll give you a discount on our Chik-Fil-A FAMILY night.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
12:12 pm

Yes, Rick, a small tweek ought to do it!

Teezo

February 22nd, 2011
12:19 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ks9ulk

..get in the ball game ATL..shake it up bc the Eastern teams gonna pass you by…

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:20 pm

The AJC should give the fake Rick Sund his own blog. Seriously.

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
12:25 pm

Devin Harris and Kris Humphries for Jamal Crawford, Zaza and a 1st round pick. This would be a great trade for Hawks, you get Harris and getting rid of Zaza’s contract would cut the unexpected amount added to next years cap from 9.319 million to 4.569 million. You would then spend time this summer figuring how to cut that 4.569 million from your salaries before you go into luxury. It is so realistic if Sund was competent. People gave him too much credit for getting Jamal, that deal worked perfectly, the hard one’s are those that you need some creativity or foresight to make. Sund fails at those. So, he will fail to get Harris also. Harris is a former all-star people. We would have 3 guys that have made all-star appearances within the last 5 years on our team, how many times can the Hawks say that in there history. It is so stupid to not have this done by now.

welikebaseball2

February 22nd, 2011
12:27 pm

I really like the Harris idea. However…that doesn’t relieve us of having Marvin “non-factor” Williams as our starting SF. I know I’m beating the same old drum we’ve all beaten & I know you’ll complain about Josh being able to shoot more jumpers if moved to SF, but I still think we sorely need a center. True, there are only a few “bonafide” centers in the league, but just give me a NBA starter-caliber center & I’ll take it. Then give me a coach that’ll bench Josh if he starts another game shooting 3 jumpers in a row! Ugh! Anywho, just my 2 cents…

ntrigue

February 22nd, 2011
12:31 pm

Trade Mo Evans and and a 2nd Rd draft pick for Devin Harris and this team which is already good becomes great!

cp

February 22nd, 2011
12:48 pm

Ehhh I cant get excited about this news. Sund also interviewed Avery Johnson 3 times but gave LD the job. It was also the news about Shaq and it turned out the Hawks weren’t too serious about that either. I’ll believe it when I see it. Wouldn’t be shocked if they didn’t acquire Harris but got Sessions then talk about how the price was too high for Harris or the deal made no sense.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
12:56 pm

In other news, former Hawks “standout” Predrag Drobnjak retired today. For those of you who don’t remember him — imagine if Zaza thought he could shoot 3’s.

J.J.M.

February 22nd, 2011
12:56 pm

trade jamal and teague for devin harris and anthony morrow…trade marvin, zaza, and a 2nd round pick for nuggets nene…new line up devin harris at the pg. joe johnson shooting guard…josh smith small forward…horford power forward..and nene at center…morrow and bibby on the becnch

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
1:02 pm

The truth, cp.

Exactly. We heard the same thing that they were interested in Avery Johnson, and that they were interested in Shaq. Until we see one of those high impact moves, I think the only moves made will be band-aid moves.

Steve W,

I think this puts pressure on D’Antoni (if not this year, definitely next year) to come up with a scheme that works.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
1:04 pm

From espn.com;

To fill out the starting lineup, the Knicks can turn to a big man with championship experience in Ronny Turiaf. Or if it’s shooting they need, Mike D’Antoni can dust off Roger Mason, who shot 44 percent, 43 percent and 39 percent from 3-point range the past three seasons. Or if not Mason, then perhaps Kelenna Azubuike, a career 41 percent shooter.

Anybody who says the Knicks traded away too much is nuts; they clearly upgraded at point guard, and if Gallinari, Mozgov, Wilson Chandler and Raymond Felton were that good, the Knicks would have been better than 28-26 at the break..

hawk fan

February 22nd, 2011
1:13 pm

try this. This trade includes the most recent trade earlier today that isn’t currently on the trade machine. Lets check it:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4b5geku

Robert

February 22nd, 2011
1:18 pm

Josh and Al are the backbone of the team and should not be mentioned in any trade talk.Move Bibby and Jc2 for Devin Harris.Then trade Marvin for Tayshaun Prince.Resign Jamal Crawford in the off season.

hawk fan

February 22nd, 2011
1:18 pm

sorry, sub Corey Brewer on the Knicks, but the major players are still the same

PRESTONI

February 22nd, 2011
1:19 pm

Something to be concerned about–In watching the Mirage Game that Ramon Sessions had against the Lakers, it was readily apparent that Sessions has serious trouble holding onto the Ball under extreme Defensive Pressure (this does not bode well for a Point Guard in the Playoffs, when Defensive Pressure is really turned up). If we can’t acquire Devin Harris or Raymond Felton, I really do like Aaron Brooks (he is an Exciting Offensive Dynamo & Hawk Fans will enjoy watching him). As previously suggested by someone on this Blog, sending Jamal Crawford and Marvin Williams for Devin Harris and Troy Murphy works for Both Teams. New Jersey would probably resign Jamal and Marvin will probably flourish on a New Team (he has looked more aggressive of late). Having Murphy (if Healthy) would help our Rebounding (to say the least) and his Expiring Contract removes the major worry of the Luxury Tax. Perhaps we can make Another Deal as well to bolster our Center Position–I’m really not comfortable with Zaza Pachulia coming off the Bench (although Air Zaza might win the next Slam Dunk Competition if they Lower the Basket to 6 Feet and he jumps over a Tire as the Choir sings “I Think I Can Fall”). There are really Serious Trade Opportunities out there and I think this time around Hawk Management realizes it is IMPERATIVE to do Something–afterall their Business depends on it (look at the Excitement and Interest generated by the mere mention of a Trade Possibility).

wolfman

February 22nd, 2011
1:20 pm

What about Drew II?????????????? Oh that’s right – he quits on his team.

terrell

February 22nd, 2011
1:23 pm

Funny how everyone wants Devin Harris, when just last year they wanted to hire Avery Johnson as the Coach. He absolutely hates Harris as a player. Hated him in Dallas. Hates him now. So who you guys want? Avery or Devin? Make up your minds. You people dont know who yall want. lol!

terrell

February 22nd, 2011
1:25 pm

So you want an Avery Johnson type Hawks team, or a Devin Harris lead Hawks team? lol!

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
1:28 pm

If Avery hates Devin, why did he take the NJN job when he could’ve stayed with Dallas and gotten a ton of money?

#owned

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
1:29 pm

*When he could’ve stayed “unemployed” but picked up checks from Dallas?

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
1:34 pm

terrell,

I think one of the reasons some fans wanted Avery is because he would have brought a different voice (good or bad) to the locker room.

LD and the players are buddies (they said he was the go-between between players and Woody), and have been for the last 6 years. So how much change is he really going to be able to bring to the table?

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
1:35 pm

Now we see Denver with 2 quality PGs (Ty Lawson and Felton), while Hawks continue to search for one solid PG…

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
1:37 pm

O’Brien,

Denver said they are not trading Felton.

WTF? Can’t they give us Felton and we package Bib?

terrell

February 22nd, 2011
1:42 pm

JeJe, if a Russian Billionaire offered you a job, and said that he’d do whatever it takes to win(money is no object), you’d take it too. That Dallas $ wont last forever. Not with his lifestyle. Not sayin he’d be hurtin without the job financially, but Coach’s like to Coach. Period. And if he liked Devin, why would he be trying to move him AGAIN? It’s known throughout the league that Avery ’s not a fan of Harris.

vava74

February 22nd, 2011
1:42 pm

Any move to get Harris or Felton would imply to ship Marvin as well.

A trade which would be viable would be (Marvin + Jamal) for (Harris + Murphy).

Murphy WOULD NOT be re-signed since we would not have the cap space but he could help in our run this year coming off the bench to provide rebounding and outside range (but no defense).

Non-crazy thought of the day: Devin Harris (or Ray Felton) in a Hawks’ uni? | Control ATL Delete | Atlanta Sports Blog – News- Discussion – Scores – Recaps

February 22nd, 2011
1:44 pm

[...] is looking to upgrade at the point guard position. Sound like any team you know? Thought so. As Michael Cunningham writes, Hawks GM Rick Sund is actively scouring the trade market for potential guard help, and that search [...]

TNHawk

February 22nd, 2011
1:48 pm

How about Teague, Bibby, Mo and Zaza for Kobe, Gasol, Bynum and Lamar Odom? We could throw in a 2nd round draft choice too.

This would be more realistic than some of the trade proposals on here.

TNHawk

February 22nd, 2011
1:49 pm

This is the last year of Sund’s contract. I think he knows if he doesn’t make a move, he’s gone.

Let’s hope so anyway.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
1:49 pm

“How about Teague, Bibby, Mo and Zaza for Kobe, Gasol, Bynum and Lamar Odom? We could throw in a 2nd round draft choice too.”

I don’t know. That 2nd rounder is a deal breaker.

TNHawk

February 22nd, 2011
1:50 pm

Yes, they are so valuable!

TNHawk

February 22nd, 2011
1:51 pm

It was either that or Etan Thomas.

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
1:55 pm

wink said this: “Amare’ has already got Horford shaken a bit. ”

Horford said “Ain’t nobody afraid of Amare”, we’re all grown men”.

Yep, sounds just like Al is shaking in his boots.

Al didn’t buy into the hype, but apparently wink did, lol.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 22nd, 2011
2:01 pm

“When he could’ve stayed “unemployed” but picked up checks from Dallas?”
_______________________________

Because, Avery had already received that last annual payment or check.
Yeah, it was time for ole’ Avery to replenish them old bare cupboards.

Baby needed new shoes. Anyway, good point in what is it about Devin Harris’ game, that Avery doesn’t like. Why is Avery so willing to let this guy go? Is it poor defense or physical durability?

What would it take to get Felton for Marvin in here?

bigdave

February 22nd, 2011
2:01 pm

if the Celtics get Battier its a wrap.

coach phil

February 22nd, 2011
2:02 pm

i don’t understand why the hawks won’t get any front court help to relieve josh and al. we gave joe all that money, trade him. he hasn’t proved that he can step it up during the playoffs. he disappears.

lukas

February 22nd, 2011
2:03 pm

There’s not going to be any trade made by the Hawks. Sund is blowing smoke in an attemp to cover his hand, but everybody is seeing through it: no cap space, role players with minimal trade value (except Jamal), reluctant to go over the luxury cap, reluctant to break the only thing that bring fans to the game: the core. Hawks management real strategy is to take whatever they can (entrance, revenues, TV) from this season without breaking a sweat, hoping for a long 1st round exit (6-7 game), and wait for the new CBA rules.

Stop wasting your energy proposing trades because Hawk’s deep-run-into-the-playoffs hopes are realistically close to zero. ASG know it, Sund knows it, LD knows it, the players know it, and we (deep down) know it. And the sad thing is, none of the mentioned above can help it.

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:04 pm

Breaking News…..
From what I hear from a person inside the Piston’s organization, look for a trade soon (this evening) between the Hawks, Pistons, and New Jersey involving Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia, and draft picks. Based on what he said, we are getting a pg and a big. I will keep you guys posted if I can get the names of the potential players coming to Atlanta. I almost didn’t believe it when I heard it. Apparently, this is real.

STRETCH

February 22nd, 2011
2:08 pm

I will be floored if this organization makes a move. But i do see them winning in LA just so Sund can believe in his “CORE” and not realize that something still needs to be done.

I wont put anything past this group. They will go out and play well enough for Sund to not bother and then revert to their old ways soon thereafter.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
2:11 pm

vava,

The problem is NJ just signed Bo Outlaw to a 5 year $35 mil deal, so I doubt if they would want Marvin.

drmaryb,

I think the Nuggets might be open to giving the Hawks Felton IF the Hawks will take back Al Harrington (who signed this past offseason to a 5 year $33 mil deal).

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
2:12 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, are you being serious? Make sure this is legit. I really, really, really want the Hawks to make a move. And, the one you are hinting at sounds like a move I would like. It gets rid of Zaza (who has been awful this year) and gets us a big and PG. I would be sad to see Jamal go, though.

Anyways….my emotions cannot be toyed with right now. Please, tell me you are being serious.

bigdave

February 22nd, 2011
2:12 pm

Amar’e on how Melo will fit NYC stage: “That’s what he wants. That’s what I wanted. … We have the same type of swag.”

LOL. this guy is a clown.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
2:12 pm

it was not a bad pick,

You must be steaming with this Melo trade. After all, he just took away Marvin’s future spot in the all-star game.

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
2:13 pm

“From what I hear from a person inside the Piston’s organization, look for a trade soon (this evening) between the Hawks, Pistons, and New Jersey involving Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia, and draft picks. Based on what he said, we are getting a pg and a big. I will keep you guys posted if I can get the names of the potential players coming to Atlanta. I almost didn’t believe it when I heard it. Apparently, this is real.”

stop, just stop. “we like our core”

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:16 pm

Section 303, I am serious as a heart attack. Its bad when you have to go looking for Hawks news in Detroit. I hope this thing comes to fruition. We need help bad. I wouldn’t mind getting Will Bynum at this point. I’ll keep you guys posted!

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
2:17 pm

LOL @ O’Brien

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:18 pm

Be ready to eat crow Lewis. Besides, we do like our core (JJ, AL, and Josh). Marvin, Zaza, and Jamal are not our “core”.

Duke

February 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, Rodney Stuckey?

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
2:20 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4rmdf7c

everybody gets picks

Robin Lopez pretty much has been replaced with Gortat.
Devin Harris is lightening quick, and penetrates like we want our PG to do
T Mac can help replace Jamal along with Bibby
Jerebko is just another big we can use, who can actually defend& rebound(upgrades Zaza)

Save 3 mill

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
2:21 pm

#1 Hawks Fan,

Woodson certainly considered Marvin and Zaza as part of the core. Go back and look what he said when they were on the market.

Duke

February 22nd, 2011
2:22 pm

Sautee, Is Woodson here anymore? Enough said…..

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
2:25 pm

I would love to be wrong. You have no idea how much I would love to eat my words. I’ve just been waiting on a trade since the first round series vs Boston a few years back, just like everyone else on here. And if they do make a move, then that will reaffirm what we do as bloggers and fans, hoping our voices are heard by the organization, or at least people that can make it be heard to the organization.

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
2:25 pm

This trade in my opinion make the KNICKS the 3best team in the east.
CELTICS, HEAT, KNICKS, BULLS, MAGIC, HAWKS, SIXERS, HORNETS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
2:27 pm

Duke,

The point is, that if Woodson considered them as part of the core, then Sund acted on that when he re-signed Zaza and Marvin. Perhaps he was giving Woody enough rope, but whatever the reason, Sund TREATED Zaza and Marvin as if they were part of the core when he re-signed them. And that’s what matters here.

Personally I agree that the core SHOULD only be Al, Josh and Joe, (and I’m not so sure about Joe, but good luck getting someone to take THAT contract).

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

STARTER BILLUPS, FIELDS, MELO, AMAR’E, TIMOFEY
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!

Zing

February 22nd, 2011
2:29 pm

Let’s trade JJ for Devin Harris and… whoever the hell else plays for NJ that might be worth a crap. Then we can start Jamal in the 2.

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

Sautee,

Although I think Al, Josh and JJ should be our core, the problem is except for Jamal and his expiring contract, the other guys (Marvin, Bibby and ZaZa) do not have much trade value.

So Hawks may be forced to give up Josh to really shake things up.

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

If the hawks get devin harris they will be the 3 best team in the east.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
2:30 pm

uh, darrell, maybe you’d better read the accounts of the trade again.

Mozgov was included to Denver.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
2:31 pm

“You must be steaming with this Melo trade. After all, he just took away Marvin’s future spot in the all-star game.”

Haahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha

Lay off Marvin’s grandma. Life ain’t no fun at the old folks home.

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

#1 Hawks Fan,

I better not be kidding around with that info!!!!!

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4trw53w

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
2:32 pm

“This trade in my opinion make the KNICKS the 3best team in the east.”

Not yet. Until they get some depth and some defense they are still firmly #6.

nique

February 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

P-lease trade Jamal for Devin. Devin is a stud and we need a PG real bad. Plus he always torches us so we wouldn’t have to play against him.

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
2:33 pm

THANKS Sautee for the info.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:34 pm

Lewis, hopefully nobody will have to eat crow! This deal needs to get done. I’d throw in Mo Evans too if need be.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
2:34 pm

“From what I hear from a person inside the Piston’s organization, look for a trade soon (this evening) between the Hawks, Pistons, and New Jersey involving Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia, and draft picks. Based on what he said, we are getting a pg and a big. ”

I’ll believe it when I see it.

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
2:35 pm

I mean “u” better not be kidding around with that info!!!!!

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
2:40 pm

#1 Hawks fan,do you thinks it Rodney Stuckey,T Mac, and Ben Wallace?!?!??!?

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
2:41 pm

For those who think the Knicks just passed us, this from espn:

“But will the duo be enough to make the Knicks a contender in the East? One Eastern Conference GM is skeptical. “They have two very good scorers. Billups will help them as well. But after those three, the Knicks are very, very thin, especially up front,” he said. “They won’t match up well with the Celtics, Magic, Bulls or Hawks. The Heat don’t have much of a frontcourt either, but their big three is better than the Knicks’. “I’m not sure this move puts [New York] much higher than a fifth or sixth seed in the East this season or the next. After next season, I don’t think the Knicks have enough cap room or assets to add another major player. I think they’re stuck.”

ESPN.com

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
2:48 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, I’m going to believe you on this. Really, and I mean no offense by this, for no other reason than I want to believe you.

Here’s hoping your doubters are the ones that have to eat crow.

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
2:51 pm

By the way…I really hope that this trade (and I am going to put my faith in #1 Hawks Fan that this trade is true) brings us Devon Harris. I really have little intrest in Ben Wallace. But, if getting a washed up “Big” Ben is what it takes to get Harris, I’m all for the move.

GetItRight

February 22nd, 2011
2:51 pm

You guys have to be krazy to think Dwight Howard would come to Atlanta to play here….Until the Hawks solve whats going on with their front office Atlanta will never be a top destination for any F/A.

Double Zero Eight

February 22nd, 2011
2:52 pm

I would love to have to eat crow.

Duke

February 22nd, 2011
2:52 pm

Darrell Starks, Hornets are in the West.

Sautee, Agree, Josh must be dealt for us to make any major shake up

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:53 pm

I would guess Tayshaun instead of T-Mac and Will Bynum instead of Stuckey. I could see Ben Wallace as the “big” though. Wallace is expendable with Monroe and Maxiell in the front court. Detroit has a lot of good pieces we could use. Thats why I am so inclined to see them as a trade partner.

ryan

February 22nd, 2011
2:54 pm

Finally some buzz i like what i am hearing if its true between Hawks , Nets and Pistons get done Sund .

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
2:55 pm

Josh Smith is not part of the trade equation for those of you inquiring/hoping (smart of Sund).

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
2:57 pm

what you think of Jonas Jerebko.He could really be a good bench guy for us and maybe play Center in a small lineup

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
2:57 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, I don’t think I want the Hawks to trade Josh. He’s a Hawk, bottom line. The guy drives me nuts some times, but he’s our guy. I don’t want to see him in another uniform.

And, while on the subject, I think it would be weird to see Marvin in another uniform, too. But, if Marvin can bring Devon Harris, Marvin gots to go.

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
2:58 pm

I’d say Tayshun starting does more for us than Jamal and Marvin combined

lukas

February 22nd, 2011
2:59 pm

I would gladly eat crow, but not going to happen.

ryan

February 22nd, 2011
2:59 pm

Could Prince be involved in the deal or Hamilton .

MJC

February 22nd, 2011
3:01 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5tf7g3p

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
3:03 pm

Duke,

I said nothing about trading Josh. Wrong poster.

The Truth

February 22nd, 2011
3:06 pm

“From what I hear from a person inside the Piston’s organization, look for a trade soon (this evening) between the Hawks, Pistons, and New Jersey involving Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams, Zaza Pachulia, and draft picks. Based on what he said, we are getting a pg and a big. ”

WARNING: POT SMOKING AND BLOGGING DON’T MIX

Conventional wisdom says the EC teams are more likely to deal with WC teams in big trades as a preference. Of course there are exceptions to the rules but I’ll take that bet.

Melvin

February 22nd, 2011
3:06 pm

#1 Hawks fan, “I would guess Tayshaun instead of T-Mac and Will Bynum instead of Stuckey. I could see Ben Wallace as the “big” though. Wallace is expendable with Monroe and Maxiell in the front court. Detroit has a lot of good pieces we could use. Thats why I am so inclined to see them as a trade partner.”

If its a 3-team trade, then what are the Hawks getting from the Nets?

Jae Evolution

February 22nd, 2011
3:08 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, are you sure Marvin is involved, we should put Mo Evans up instead…

To be honest the last thing I want to see on this team is Mo Evans and Josh Smith playing more 3. Marvin is a certified SF and if Mo was gone it would only free up time for Damien and Marvin.

Hawksfans

February 22nd, 2011
3:09 pm

“WARNING: POT SMOKING AND BLOGGING DON’T MIX”

false.

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
3:09 pm

It appears that the Pistons are looking to get rid of Rip Hamilton and take on some expiring contracts (Jamal Crawford).

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
3:12 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, that must mean RIP goes to the Nets, right? I don’t see him coming here. And, of course, Devon Harris comes to Atlanta.

Any trade that involves the Nets & Hawks has to end with Devon Harris coming to Atlanta, as far as I’m concerned. He would be the crown jewel of the deal.

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
3:14 pm

Jae Evolution, I agree. I can’t stand Mo Evans. I think the guy is worthless (though, he hit some big shots in the 1st half against the Knicks last week). Would love to see Evans get sent somewhere. I would take a bag of balls in return.

JoJo the Godfather

February 22nd, 2011
3:16 pm

Could be Harris & Murphy to Hawks…Jamal, Marvin & Pachulia to Pistons…And, Rip & Prince to Nets. Just guessing, but that would be a good move for the Hawks from a cap management stand point. Not sure why Nets would want Rip, but they did earlier this year when he was going to be coming along with Melo.

Tremaine

February 22nd, 2011
3:17 pm

The hawks should trade Mike Bibby for Jeff Teague’s bench spot.

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
3:18 pm

hawksfans,

It would have been funnier if you had misspelled false.

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
3:18 pm

A trade of Mo or Marvin and Jamal would allow for more playing time for Damien and Jordan Crawford.

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:19 pm

Maybe the Hawks willing to go into the L-tax to get Ben, RIP, and Devin?!?

CDUBL

February 22nd, 2011
3:19 pm

@ Section 303

Seriously, a bag of balls?

Tremaine

February 22nd, 2011
3:20 pm

The hawks fire Rick Sund and hire Tremaine as new GM. “Chances coming soon!”

bigdave

February 22nd, 2011
3:20 pm

do you have a source of any kind?

are we so thirsty for trade speculation that we’d just believe any ole’ thing from Joe Blow?

while we’re @ it.. i just got off the phone w/ Steph Curry’s mom, she was verifying my bank account info and a few other things that i will not disclose at the time, she say’s that Steph wants to play for the Hawks..

now.

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
3:20 pm

troy murphy was really solid…why’s he not playing?

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
3:22 pm

@CDUBL,I would accept hat too.2.5 million dollars worth of balls to be exact

krishatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:25 pm

seriously, why are you all believing “#1 Hawks Fan”??? I would love to buy into the hype, trust me, but i seriously doubt his credibility in knowing someone in the Pistons organization and having a inside track on a major deal. unreal.

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
3:27 pm

we have to believe, and we only have to wait 2 days to disprove him, so….

Rev in Tampa

February 22nd, 2011
3:27 pm

Can anybody remember the name of ‘the cousin from Phoenix’ who had reliable trade information about Nash several months back? It was one of the funnier things I have seen on the blog.

krishatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:28 pm

i’m with u “Bigdave”. my friend’s brother is Devin Harris’ sister in law’s 3rd cousin. he say’s she told him that someone else was certain that it might be devin’s sister in law who said for sure he was going to be traded to Hawks. ugh. see? pass it on!

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:28 pm

bigdave,

It’s a shame that we’ve become so desperate around here that we have actually allowed ouselves to be toyed with knowingly Smh (No Homo)

krishatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:28 pm

sorry for being a cynical prick by the way…

Shannon

February 22nd, 2011
3:31 pm

I heard we are bringing back Stacey Augmon lol

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
3:32 pm

with MC’s devin harris speculation story + random trade rumor, this blog is getting its most traffic in years

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:32 pm

#1 Hawks Fan will become the equivilent of the infamous “TS” in about two days lol.

Taylor

February 22nd, 2011
3:32 pm

I live in Denver and have an inside source saying there will be a trade tonight
Hawks give: Marvin and Jamal
Hawks get: Nene and Felton

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
3:33 pm

lewis,

Yeah and with handles never seen here before, lol.

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
3:34 pm

Taylor do provide more details, sounds like you got a great source..

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
3:34 pm

Freshfromatl,

not unless he posts the same paragraph 500 times.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:35 pm

terrell, for the record, I don’t want Devin Harris….I will gladly take Avery Johnson because the core is too comfortable and not playing hard enough for Larry. Too late I know…

#1HF, how many people will be in a uproar if we end up with Rip? The Pistons are simply in rebuild mode…..I know you said a PG and C, but don’t let rumors fool you….no ASG member thinks we need a PG or C….hasn’t that been proven?

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
3:35 pm

I am not the kind to put out bogus info out on the blog just for kicks. Just keep watching the ticker on ESPN. Just trying to give the fellow fans a heads up on whats going down.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:36 pm

Taylor, you are testing the sanity of the bloggers around here aren’t you?

Chris Gotti

February 22nd, 2011
3:37 pm

man the Hawks need to get rid of Joe Johnson..and get two big free agents for $60 million, 3 yrs a piece.

#1 Hawks Fan

February 22nd, 2011
3:37 pm

Just trying to give fellow Hawks fans the heads up. Just keep watching the ESPN ticker. When you see the trade announced, come back to the blog and apologize. Thats all I ask.

Rev in Tampa

February 22nd, 2011
3:38 pm

lewis,

Did you read Grandad’s post to MC yesterday about there being no harm in posting trade rumors? What if there is not even a lick of reality to the Devin Harris story and MC posted it just to mess with Grandad?

But I don’t care if its false or not. I’ve been checking the blog every hour to see of anything credible is in the wind. I’m not buying what #1 Hawks Fan is selling, but I’m glad he posted it because it makes for an exciting afternoon of speculation.

Taylor

February 22nd, 2011
3:38 pm

Yes, yes I am

darrell starks

February 22nd, 2011
3:38 pm

Devin harris rumor 2 ATL is getting stronger.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

The Source

February 22nd, 2011
3:38 pm

BREAKING NEWS!!!! Dominique Will be put on his 21 Jersey and small Shorts and come play for the Hawks again but then he will realize his uniform doesn’t fit anymore lol

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:40 pm

Ok, I gotta throw this out there….right before the deadline….

What is the single best player we could get for Smoove? What is he worth in the market? Do the Nuggets have an interest?
Would someone look at him as a SF instead of a PF?

That is the kind of deal that needs to be done…..bring in a big piece to the starting lineup and get rid of the inconsistent ones. Because of Smoove’s preference to go to SF, he has had a whopping total of 1 block the last 3 games. We need him on the inside.

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:43 pm

Things are getting interesting:

Blazers Expected To Trade Miller, Camby

The Blazers are expected to trade Andre Miller and Marcus Camby prior to Thursday’s trade deadline, according to a source.

Miller and Camby are both in their mid-30s and the Blazers are motivated to get younger.

Camby has openly contemplated retirement if Portland trades him.

Miller is signed to a non-guaranteed contract for the 11-12 season.

atlanta 10

February 22nd, 2011
3:43 pm

felton and nene ? get outa here id run out the house and dance in the streets for jamal and marvin lol id throw in 2 1st roudners the trade exception and teauge why not zaza for birdaman while we r at it

atlanta 10

February 22nd, 2011
3:45 pm

nene horford smith jj and felton ..contenders instantly , i dlike jr smith to replace jamals output

lukas

February 22nd, 2011
3:46 pm

#1HF,

i will GLADLY apologize if a trade happens. Meanwhile, i have a source inside Houston office that is expecting the following trade: Shane Battier and Aaron Brooks for Marvin, Teague, and a 2nd round pick. It’s inminent!!!

atlanta 10

February 22nd, 2011
3:47 pm

Atlanta Hawks

The Hawks have been relying on outstanding team chemistry in their consistent rise through the Eastern Conference ranks since 2006, but with every other team in the East’s power structure making deals since last summer the Hawks may have to abandon this strategy and get in the mix.

One of the glaring holes on the Hawks roster, besides a legitimate center to help Al Horford’s transition to power forward, is point guard. Last week rumors began circulating Atlanta was one of a few teams who reached out to the Cleveland Cavaliers on the availability of point guard Ramon Sessions.

The Hawks are reportedly offering veteran Maurice Evans’ expiring deal and project second year guard Jeff Teague to the Cavs. Sessions is averaging 12.3 points and 5.3 assists this season, while registering 21 starts. His presence would bolster Atlanta’s backcourt depth.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18856#ixzz1EisLRCYR

Taylor

February 22nd, 2011
3:47 pm

To save the excitement I was kidding about nene and felton

krishatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:53 pm

#1 Hawks Fan, I will be one of the first to get on this blog and apologize for doubting you if what u claim ends up being true. run and tell that!

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:54 pm

Fresh, Cho in Portland is very eager to make a move even after they have been playing very well lately. What’s hard to imagine is that they deal Miller, who is not a great expense.
They are 5th in the West, and have won 6 in a row…..I think they keep him if its him or Roy….Roy is not the same player.

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
3:54 pm

Breaking News: Hawks and Bucks are working on a supposed blockbuster.

P.S. I am hearing that it is Bogut and Jennings for Josh Smith, Jeff Teague, and a 1st round pick.

If this breaks before I get back good, if not I will let you know what I know. Until then, people we are about to turn the corner.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:55 pm

Taylor, good, you came to your senses.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm

Jennings and Bogut? Hmmm, so we get both the #1 and #2 of the same draft that passed over to HOF PGs….

Rev in Tampa

February 22nd, 2011
3:56 pm

This just in. The Hawks are going to trade Jeff Teague to three different teams tonight!

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
3:57 pm

LMAO @ Buck-Hawks Blockbuster

atlanta 10

February 22nd, 2011
3:57 pm

broke my heart taylor lol woulda been a kilelr line up…last thing i want is getting rid of josh for bogut and jennings get otus here if ur gnna move josh then u betetr be getten soemthen better then that…bogut is injury prone and jennnings is a punk

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
3:58 pm

LMFAO,

Now everybody is a mole. Lots of great “inside” information. All about as good as blog opinions, I guess.

Wishful thinking never made a trade.

JM

February 22nd, 2011
3:58 pm

Gotta agree with others about the floating rumors, but it makes for a better read than the over the top fan wishes. Go Hawks!

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
3:59 pm

Man I’m just gonna leave the blog before I smack somebody lmao! Peace!

hawksblog

February 22nd, 2011
4:00 pm

this is crazii there no breaking new everybodys talken out there a$$…yall need to relax..go to google type in atlanta hawks go to yahoo go to realgm.com go to esp or nba theres nothen on the hawks other then ramon sessions who cleavland just pulled off the block bc of mo williams new injury, and harris is in a 3 team deal thats just about to go through withint the next 24 hours with the mavs

ryan

February 22nd, 2011
4:14 pm

Devin Harris seems more likely but Jennings and Bogut would be a shock .

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
4:16 pm

ryan he was just talking..

ATL FAN

February 22nd, 2011
4:16 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4k8jprt

Unlike some other trades, this one is actually beneficial to BOTH teams, not just the Hawks as these Hawks fans only think about. Nets get young PG in Teague to replace Harris

hawksblog

February 22nd, 2011
4:22 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4brftyd

hawksblog

February 22nd, 2011
4:29 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ejsayo

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
4:32 pm

yo where did BOOBOO GO. I WANNA HEAR THAT NASH TO HAWKS RUMOR LOL

hawksblog

February 22nd, 2011
4:34 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4nm8a4t

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
4:35 pm

where is TS anyway? he could single-handedly crushed any bit of morale on this blog with those one liners of truth

Taylor

February 22nd, 2011
4:37 pm

#1 Hawks Fan got everyones attention didnt he? Trade won’t happen..Count on Sund blowing another chance and us going out in the first round.

woodpecker

February 22nd, 2011
4:40 pm

Enter your comments here

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
4:42 pm

only legitimate piece of info i have found thus far was a twitter comment by ianzone

“The Nets are trying to make some moves – notably find a place for Devin Harris – before they return to practice.”
about 6 hours ago via TweetDeck
Retweeted by 2 people

Rev in Tampa

February 22nd, 2011
4:43 pm

JeJe,

Thanks, I was trying to remember is name. Good ole BooBoo!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
4:45 pm

“Can anybody remember the name of ‘the cousin from Phoenix’ who had reliable trade information about Nash several months back? It was one of the funnier things I have seen on the blog.”

I believe this was Tyrone’s cousin BooBoo. In hindsight I wonder if it was this Tyrone.

lukas

February 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm

LMAO at cousin BooBoo!!

woodpecker

February 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm

We do need help a PG position but then we still leave us soft in the middle. We are unable to close out games when we have a big leads. Let go out and get a defensive threat in the middle Dwight Howard or NENE and go after CP3.

Big Man

February 22nd, 2011
4:47 pm

Devin Harris is not better than Ray Felton……..

EmirS.

February 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm

I just read some articles about Devin harris. It’s pretty offical. Nets said that they think his commitment to the team is on a downward spiral after being in trade talks all season. He will more then likely be traded before Thursday.

So as Big Ray explained to me earlier, you gotta start somewhere to acquire depth. So…lets get after this dude.

Big Man

February 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm

And Ty Lawson>>>>>> Harris and Felton

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
4:48 pm

Very funny, Najeh. ROFLMAO

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
4:50 pm

I stopped believing #1HF’s trade rumor when I saw the words “Zaza Pachulia”. I refuse to believe that any NBA GM is willing to trade for him until I actually see it happen. It’s nice to dream though.

And yes, I will offer my deepest apologies if the trade happens to come true.

K-Dogg

February 22nd, 2011
4:51 pm

Its alot of players on the blcok now and if the Hawks dont move Crawford for one of them its over for us guys!!! Also you heard it hear 1st if we dont get a big this deadline i hate to say it but w need to take a chance on Yao!!! (I was the one calling for Shaq this summer and no one listend so this is my 2nd call) We can use these type of guys that we can pay and play into shape and use for the playoffs. Just liek i said this summer if we got Shaq we dont need him all year b/c we could win 50 games with out him we need him for the playoffs and that logic is the same for Yao so i will start this up this summer i need yalls support!! Back to the topic at hand if we dont make a move by thursday i swear im not going to anotehr game this year to see the 5th best team in the east and watch us play the Magic and get swept in the 1st round this year!!!!!!

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
4:53 pm

no sh!t felton is better than harris, and thats exactly why we won’t get him. no team is giving up a young quality starting point guard who plays defense and hits jumpshots for jamal *instant offense* crawford

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
4:56 pm

The potential three-team trade that would land Harris back in Dallas is in a bit of trouble. David Aldridge tweeted that Gallo and Mozgov will remain in Denver, but didn’t say anything about Raymond Felton, who was traded along with Gallo and Mozgov for Carmelo Anthony. Both Felton and Mozgov were rumored to head to New Jersey in the three-team deal that would land Harris back in Dallas.

It’s possible that the Nets would take somebody else besides Mozgov in a trade as long as they acquired Felton, or maybe Mozgov makes or breaks their deal. Either way, it looks like Harris will be on the move somewhere in the next few day

K-Dogg

February 22nd, 2011
4:57 pm

Denver aint trading Felton. They have to have a back up point guard guys eitehr him or lawson aint going anywhere!!!!

drmaryb (*_*)

February 22nd, 2011
4:58 pm

After what NeNe just went through with all the Melo-Drama, I doubt if even he signs a Denver extension. Why not choose his next team too? Everyone else is. At his age, does NeNe really want to re-build in Denver? I seriously doubt that. Then again, money does talk loud.

Just Curious

February 22nd, 2011
5:01 pm

Wondering if those PGs are not available, what about Jonny Flynn. MN wants to move him since Rubio will be their man next season. Haven’t seen him play this year, but he sure looked good at Syracuse.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 22nd, 2011
5:01 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5trn592

Rod from College Park

February 22nd, 2011
5:02 pm

“I stopped believing #1HF’s trade rumor when I saw the words “Zaza Pachulia”. I refuse to believe that any NBA GM is willing to trade for him until I actually see it happen. It’s nice to dream though.”

I agree with that and I’ll add “Marvin Williams” to that point also. Nobody wants his contract with all those years left. There is no need for us to keep speculating, if Marvin or Jamal do not play tonight, we will know something is up.

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
5:03 pm

I’m hearing that the sticking point is that the Bucks are now asking for 2 1st round picks and a 2nd.

I hear it’s still possible but it has lost steam. I am scheduled to talk with my source within the next 3 hours he is getting tired of hearing so much and nothing happening I will let you know more when I do.

Once again: It is 50/50 now that the Bucks and Hawks will be exchanging Josh Smith, Jeff Teague, 2 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick for

Bogut and Jennings

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
5:04 pm

Najeh,

I like it, but I sure would love to get someone to take Zaza.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
5:05 pm

FIRE RICK SUND.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
5:06 pm

Why exactly is Dallas wanting Devin Harris back? Is Kidd on the trading block…?

O'Brien

February 22nd, 2011
5:07 pm

Kevin M,

I think one of the best trade options for Josh Smith is Nene. Nene makes about $11 mil in the last year of his deal, and he plays center, which would allow Al to move to PF full time.

However, the Nuggets are trying to sign Nene to an extension (and he is their only center), and he loves Denver, so I doubt they will trade him.

Another option for Smoove would have been Chris Kaman. DeAndre Jordan has blossomed, so the Clips are open to trading Kaman. However, Kaman has 2 years left at ~$12 mil per year, and most importantly, he can’t stay healthy, so there is no way the Hawks would trade for him.

I think those 2 guys (in a perfect world) would be a decent trade for Smoove, because it gives us a decent starting center.

JeJe

February 22nd, 2011
5:08 pm

Any trade that is made has to involve Bibby. He is done

man man

February 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm

This from SI.com

Atlanta Hawks. A two-way performer like Kirk Hinrich would toughen their backcourt at the defensive end. But offering Marvin Williams or Mike Bibby isn’t likely to get it done for the Hawks, who need to make a move in order to create hope for reaching the conference finals.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm

I read from Rumors on hoopshype that the Cavs have pulled back on trading Sessions due to a re-aggravated hip injury to Maurice Williams.

So if the Sund talks with the Cavs are broken down then it makes sense to
leak the Devin Harris rumor, however Devin is very doable for the Hawks if Dallas backs off. Sund should also be calling Denver to see what thsy will take for Felton and Do It!

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
5:10 pm

Najeh, i’d love to see that one go down

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
5:14 pm

O’Brien,

Didn’t Denver just acquire Mozgov? And would that make Nene potentially available?

And if they want to keep Nene, maybe they would part with Mozgov.

Section 303

February 22nd, 2011
5:14 pm

I have to disagree with those saying Felton is better than Harris. I’d take Harris all day, every day over Felton.

Freshfromatl

February 22nd, 2011
5:25 pm

5:24pm and still no trade SMH. Shame on you Hawks Fan #1, shame!!!!!!

hawkfaninNH

February 22nd, 2011
5:28 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=48mzf7q

I think if we can pull off this trade than it would be the best thing ever!!

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
5:29 pm

maybe 6 o clock starts the buzz of one happening..

Shake Something

February 22nd, 2011
5:33 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4fxqloa

more potential with PHX getting a first and NJ maybe a 2nd

Taylor

February 22nd, 2011
5:34 pm

no buzz will start because nothings happening

Tyrone

February 22nd, 2011
5:36 pm

For the record, My cousin BooBoo had the correct infromation concerning the trade. It was the Hawks who rejected Phoenix’s offer: Jamal, Teague, and 1 million cash for Nash. So much for the 3 mil, they received for the second round pick. I suspect they used it to pay the light bill.

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
5:51 pm

This sure sounds like an all-out attempt for the ASG to save face with the fans. No deal, you will not increase your gate receipts.
OB, I would not want any part of Kaman, who looks like a one year all-star wonder. You can’t give up good goods for damaged goods.
And Bogut might be in the same scenario. The Bucks need a shakeup, but unless you get Jennings, you aren’t talking.

My list of names to bring in here:

Brooks, Battier
Felton, Nene
Miller, Pryzbilla/Camby
Cousins, Evans (wishful thinking here)
Arthur (Memphis in a side deal)…bulk for the paint

Why does Dallas want Harris? They already have 3 PGs….sheesh…at least let us get one?

lewis

February 22nd, 2011
5:54 pm

Gery Woelfel: Clippers still looking for shooter: Hawks still looking for backcourt help. about 47 minutes ago

Interest in Nets’ Devin Harris very high (Yahoo! Sports) « Top Sports Hub

February 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm

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northcyde

February 22nd, 2011
5:58 pm

Meanwhile . . . there’s a game going on tonight. Should be an interesting game, with both teams coming off of a tough week/10 days before the All-Star break.

Hopefully Jamal gets back on track and has a nice game. If this is one of his final games in a Hawks uniform, I’d rather for him to go out with a bang, than to keep struggling. With the Lakers off track a little bit, this is definiely the right time to beat them in LA for the first time since Jason Terry’s great game there in 2002. ( At least I believe it was JT that had the big gme ).

*****

As for all this trade talk, I think I’ve only seen one other person even mention this . . and it’s using the TPE ( that we got from the Josh Childress to Phoenix trade ) to acquire a player.

For all of the talk about “blockbuster trades”, the track record of Sund and the ASG suggest that they’ll use the TPE to acquire a player, and do nothing else.

Capologists, correct me if I’m wrong on this, but I believe a player acquired via the TPE does NOT count against that team’s cap number for one year.

Our TPE is around 3 mill . . so we trade for a player making 3 mill . . and his salary isn’t counted against us as far as going over the luxury tax goes.

So there it is . . . the most likely move the Hawks will make, is to use the TPE on a 3 million dollar player . . then we’ll have to cut someone like Etan or Sy, to make room.

So . . who is a 3 mill per year player that people want here, and another team doesn’t want?

KevinM

February 22nd, 2011
6:18 pm

northcyde, a couple of names:

Aaron Brooks – not really useful for other playoff teams as they have starting PGs.
Luther Head-does he have ANY PG skills…6′3″ and a good shooter.
Jason Thompson
Darrell Arthur
Rodney Stuckey
Ben Wallace

ag

February 22nd, 2011
6:24 pm

If everyone is in uniform Tuesday, there will be no trade.

Sautee

February 22nd, 2011
6:28 pm

new blog up

Melvin Flowers-Macon Georgia

February 22nd, 2011
6:44 pm

Trade Marvin Williams Sorry Ass. Trade That Sorry Center Pachulia And Old School Mike B.
Hawks about To Fall To The Bottom, They Will Not Win With These Players.

ag

February 22nd, 2011
6:45 pm

Okay, I don’t have the NBA package, so a lot of these guys I haven’t seen. I saw Aaron Brook tear the Hawks up, but looking at his stats, he has not played very well. Looking at Sessions, he had a career night against LA, and since he has been a starter, he has given the Cav’s some real good numbers. Prior to starting, he was average at best. My point is play Teague see what we have and trade for a big. Why trade a point guard if he is already on the team?

tidog

February 22nd, 2011
6:52 pm

Amare and Carmelo aint’t gonna work for long if at all.

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm

It’s funny with all these legit PG’s around they keep mentioning a D League guy in Sessions. The guy is a band-aid instead of real upgrade like Harris or Felton. The Hawks are a sad organization Sund is one sorry SundofaGM

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
7:24 pm

The Hawks are DONE!!! Stick a fork in them………………………………Yawn

Sund is outta here at the end of the season anyway….Who cares????

slimjr

February 22nd, 2011
7:51 pm

“No one outside of a Kool-Aid-induced delusion takes this squad seriously.”
I Cosign…

superiorblogman

February 22nd, 2011
7:56 pm

How to F up your cap then blame the Fans and try to put pressure on your players staring Rick “DumbSundofaGM”

Step 1: Pay Zaza I got in KG’s face Pachulia $4 million a year to get dominated by any and every player that is in front of him.

Step 2: Pay a former D League player $4 million a year after trading away your 1st round draft pick at PG who many said could be the best PG of his class in 3 years. You trade him after a year and a half.

Devin Harris makes $9 million next year. Put Zaza and Session’s salaries together and you get about $8.75 mill next year. Now go try and trade Sessions and Zaza for Harris. You will get laughed at, but I guess this guy needs more proof that he is incompetent. There is a reason Sund does not make moves, because no one wants his dumb arse contracts.One stupid MF’er

jason

February 22nd, 2011
7:57 pm

jamal for harris. sounds good to me. JC2 assumes the role as 6th man

Ken Strickland

February 22nd, 2011
8:41 pm

I just read that the Hawks are trying to work out a trade with Cleveland for PG RSession and SG MHarris, and is offering PG JTeague and swingman MEvans.

NORTHCYDE-I was the one that mentioned using the trade exception. I suggested we trade for the Warriors PG SCurry and use our trade exception to cover his salary, which fits within our trade exception. He’s also the only quality player I know of with the ability to solve our PG issues that might be available.

Progeny

February 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm

I just read Chris Broussard’s tweet saying that the Hawks weren’t offering much for Devin Harris. Bummer.

Mike10

February 22nd, 2011
11:20 pm

After the game the Hawks need to get on the damn phone quick, it’s time to get rid of some pieces,starting with Marvin.Put Bibby on the Bench maybe trade Jamal because he’s slipping.Joe still not the leader this teams needs, also he’s struggling and this team seems disinterested and not motivated to play.

Raybud

February 22nd, 2011
11:49 pm

wow….the Hawks only offered bibby for harris….i heard Sund wasn’t that great of a GM, but come on!! Are you F@@#%^# serious? That’s why i hate getting excited about ATL sports everytime we here a rumor. I remember about 3-4 yrs ago, we were trying to get amare…look what happened…let’s face it, no big time player wants to play in the ATL…a commentator, don’t remember who it was, made a comment a few yrs back, “Atlanta is the city everyone wants to go to, but don’t want to play for”. I think that’s the nail in the coffin.

tjhook

February 23rd, 2011
12:06 am

I want Devin Harris to come here but I’d take a Marvin for Andre Miller move because we do have some issues with mental toughness and Miller offers plenty of that. His only weakness is shooting and WALA!! Mike Bibby can come in to do that.

HWJ

February 23rd, 2011
12:31 am

TRADE MARVIN

HWJ

February 23rd, 2011
12:33 am

Id honestly trade Marvin for anyone at this point anyone

Raybud

February 23rd, 2011
12:37 am

i say that if they can’t get past the 2nd round this yr, i’d blow the team up…it’s the same team for the past 4 yrs…minus jamal crawford

Hawks

February 23rd, 2011
1:24 am

as long as we are stuck with joe johnson and marvin williams’ contracts any trade with the exception of one for a superstar is completely useless. we are screwed for the next 6 years because of johnson’s crappy contract

Harpie

February 23rd, 2011
1:33 am

This team stinks, from the coach on down ( except fpr Horford )!!!

Step it up

February 23rd, 2011
8:28 am

Denver is having a fire sale, the Hawks should be after Nene, a true center. Send Marvin and Crawford, that is elementary. The Hawks are not winning it this year but can start building for the future because the Knicks have stepped up, Chicago may well win the East, and we know about Miami. Boston is on their last leg this year and Orlando will never win with Van Gundy, so there are openings in the top 4 next year.

Arthur Blank Accountant

February 23rd, 2011
10:58 am

Please Mr. Blank Show the Spirit Group real ATL Spirit by buying the Hawks and making them a Championship contender like the Falcons, PLEASE!

Hawkeye

February 23rd, 2011
11:00 am

Any trade is good right now to rattle the cage. Bibby,Marvin and Jamal Crawford..Thanks for your contribution to the Hawks,but its time to say goodbye. Welcome,Devin Harris

drmaryb (*_*)

February 23rd, 2011
11:10 am

Beaking News!

Devin Harris and Favors and some picks to Utah for DWill, apparently has some teeth. I think it is a three team deal though. Just heard this on 790 The Zone Buck & kincaid Show.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 23rd, 2011
11:13 am

Bangin’ Them Phones!

The Nets banging the phones with Devin Harris and Favors as their big stick! What is Sund doing to get in on that action?

Jim

February 23rd, 2011
11:22 am

Hilarious Video on Sunday Alcohol Drinking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TOM_UuQzc0

CONservative Johnson

February 23rd, 2011
11:26 am

So much for Devin Harris. And why weren’t we going for Deron Williams? We suck!

Mitch

February 23rd, 2011
11:36 am

What does everyone think about this trade?

PF Josh Smith ($11M), SF Marvin Williams ($7M) and PG Mike Bibby ($5M) to Denver for C Nene Hilario ($11M), PG Raymond Felton ($7M) and PF Al Harrington ($5M). The combined salaries are nearly exact.

We could leave Harrington and Bibby out of it…but Harrington, imo, would be a far better 2nd team scorer than Bibby—yes he has 5 years on his contract, which is a lot—but Bibby has 3.

Hawks’ 1st Team:

1-Felton
2-Ja.Crawford
3-Johnson
4-Horford
5-Nene

Haws’ 2nd Team:

1-Teague/Sy
2-Jo. Crawford/Sy
3-Evans/Wilkins
4-Harrington/Powell
5-Collins/Pachulia/Thomas

day old fries

February 23rd, 2011
11:45 am

gullable silly little hawks fans…you amuse me

Rod Johnson

February 23rd, 2011
1:42 pm

Somebody please wake me up when Atlanta gets a real NBA team. The Hawks organization is probably the worst joke anyone could play on the residents of this great city. I’m sorry to be so harsh, but quite frankly, owners like A. Blank has set the sports standards here and the Hawks/Thrashers are not cutting it. I need the Spirit group to smarten up and stop paying so much money for mid-level players. There’s not 3 players combined on this team that should make $120 million. Let’s be clear. We lack ‘Star-POWER’ and game changers. Everybody wants to know why Jamal Crawford is in a slump…it’s called I want out because you all won’t resign me. $10M for a player coming off the bench. Get REAL! Jeff Teague and (R) Jamal Crawford has not been given a fair shake. You can’t possibly get better playing 6 minutes a night. Let those guys play since the veterans are not hacking it. NBA Championship this year…with all the POWER in Boston, Miami, Orlanda, & New York…child please (in my Ocho Cinco voice)! We goofed on Marvin Williams, Sheldon Williams, A.C. Law, Jeff Teague, and all the other international players that we drafted for nothing. Maybe the issue is not coaching…rather the SCOUTING department.

BigJay

February 23rd, 2011
2:16 pm

For GOD sake, get a BIG MAN! You had a chance to get Tyson Chandler for peanuts, you can get Curry from NY/MIN for the same thing. He can’t possibly be any worse than Jason Collins!

Phillip

February 23rd, 2011
2:47 pm

Why not trade Marvin and Zaza to Golden State for Seth Curry and David Lee ( I know this will not happen), but salaries match up and Atlanta gets a proven, and also young point guard in Curry. Starting 5 would be…
PG Curry
SG Johnson
SF Smith
PF Lee
C Horford

ApDaGr8

February 23rd, 2011
4:01 pm

Rick Sund is probably the one of the worst GM’s ever…..he continues to drag out our team without trying to stay up with the elite 4/5 teams in the east year after year….im sick of going to hawks games only to wonder if we will make it to through the 1 round or get smoked in the 2 round of the playoffs…btw i can see why attendance is down this year RICKY…make some MOVES NOW!!

TruAtlFan

February 23rd, 2011
4:56 pm

this is my first time on here but i read these post about atlanta all the time. And i mean idont care if its the atlanta haW

TruAtlFan

February 23rd, 2011
5:05 pm

I HAVE NEVER POSTED ANYTHING ANY WHERE ON THE INTERNET BUT I LOVE EVERY TEAM FROM ATLANTA. BUT TODAY HAS REALLY MADE ME GIVE UP ON THE HAWKS NOT THE PLAYERS THE MANAGEMENT. THINK ABOUT IT CHAUNCEY DEVIN DWILL RAY FELTON ALL WITH DIFFERENT TEAMS TODAYAND WE R GOIN AFTER HINRICH, KIRK HINRICH NOW WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED WHAT HAS HE DONE WHAT GAME HAVE U SEEN HIM TAKE OVER WE WILL NEVER B ELITE I AM REALLY ON THE EDGE OF WONDERING IF I NEED TO FIND ANOTHER TEAM> AND FOR ALL YALL ON HERE WHO ACT LIKE THEY DONT KNOW FACE IT JOSH SMITH IS THE PROBLEM. REALITY CHECK TIME

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leo

February 23rd, 2011
7:32 pm

We have just trade Mike Bibby, Jordan Crawford and Mo Evans for Captain Kirk and Hollins in DC. I am guessing this is better than nothing. LMAO

Gotta love it. I am going to be a Bobcats fan if their is no lockout next season. I am really hurt. I may actually cry about this. I was born and raised in Milledgeville, Ga. I have been a Hawks fan my entire life. Josh Smith is an not what the Hawks need to hold on to. TRADE HIM NOW. We need help!!! Fire Rick Sund.

TruAtlFan

February 24th, 2011
11:20 am

thank u leo and it seems to me that we always making a trade thats better than nothing. im with u 100%. never making any blockbuster trades

Mks

February 25th, 2011
2:30 pm

I agree with whoever said Arthur Blank should buy the Hawks.

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