Atlanta Hawks: Knicks 102, Hawks 90
Felton isn't the only one who does this to the Hawks. (Christopher Pasatieri / Newsday)
New York–After all the hype surrounding this game, it came down to some basic, boring (and familiar) truths about the Hawks.
- A team like New York, which has penetrating point guards, threats to roll to the rim and 3-point shooters, can slice up the Hawks because the first thing leads to the other two. And the Hawks can easily be induced to take long jump shots, either because opponents force them to do so or, like tonight, the Hawks abandon the game plan after a few misses in close.
- Both things happened against the Knicks, and so the Hawks were subpar both on offense (aside from making 11 of 22 3-point attempts) and defense (48 percent shooting allowed, 18 fastbreak points).
- Defense was the real problem for the Hawks, who never could put together any kind of sustained run because New York would easily get an open shot and make it.
- “Every time we tried to [rally], they made a big three or a big basket,” Al said. “It was a little demoralizing. We stayed with it, but we just didn’t have enough tonight.”
- The issues, like most times, started on the ball.
- “They run a ton of pick-and-rolls and we were trying to figure out the best coverages for it,” L.D. said. “They do a great job in the pick-and-roll with Felton and then they have a guy who is a forceful roller with Stoudemire. You have to defend the guard, you have to defend the big guy on the roll and then they spread out with shooters. It makes it tough for us. “
- Sounds like he pretty much just described the Celtics. Or the Bulls. Or the Magic. Shoot, take away the roll man but add two of the best screen-roll ball-handlers in the league and it’s the Heat.
- “We just had more individual breakdowns on a lot of simple things [like] transition defense, closeouts,” Drew said.
- “It’s kind of hard to really help, especially when they are knocking down the jump shot like tonight,” Smoove said. “We gave up too much dribble penetration and then we helped and were scrambling from that point on.”
- I’m thinking I can save time by putting the above three quotes in a macro file.
- At one point, a New York hack sitting next to me asked: “So, basically, whomever Bibby is guarding scores?” Me: “Not always. Sometimes his man passes to open shooters when everything breaks down, and they score.”
- Later from the hack: “If this team had a different point guard they could be so good.” I told him it was supposed to be Teague, and he asked: “Is he hurt or something?”
- I couldn’t decide if my blog people would have laughed or cried if you had heard that conversation.
- Al never really could get on track, though he dismissed his beef with Stoudemire as a factor: “I thought it was something small to begin with that he tried to blow it up and run with it. I think it was just a lot of talk. He didn’t say anything out there on the court. I went out there and played my game and he played his.”
- For the first time I can remember, Al complained about his touches. That’s odd since there have been plenty of other games when the Hawks did forget about him for long stretches but tonight he was involved.
- “I started to get touches a little later in the game as opposed to early or the start of the second half,” he said. “I didn’t get touches in the post like that so I could really get established.”
- I thought the Hawks might have been able to keep up if they had stuck with the post-ups. Joe and Marvin got into good position by backing down their men. Smoove got some drives at the basket and Bibby some good spot-up looks when passes came out of the post.
- The Hawks had trouble finishing at the basket, though, and instead of keeping at it, they went to their favored jump shots. That approach also quickened the pace.
- “We want to think inside out,” L.D. said. “Once you show you can attack inside they have got to collapse, they have got to double team. We missed some easy ones and then we started settling for outside shots, jump shots. On the road, it can be your demise. When they pressured us and sped us up some, we didn’t handle it well.”
- “We was rushing and they were giving us the jump shot,”Smoove said. “We weren’t able to knock them down tonight.”
- Especially not Josh (6 of 16) or Jamal (3 of 11). The latter forced things at times, as he tends to do when back in New York (usually with better results). He jacked a jumper on the baseline while double-teamed after the Hawks got within 74-65. They never recovered.
- The Hawks enter the All-Star break in fifth place in the East, a full game behind Orlando
- “I think we will come back re-focused and ready to go,” Al said. “I don’t think we are playing our best basketball yet. We are starting to be a little more consistent, we just have lapses like we did tonight. I hope we can get there.”
- I’m off to L.A. tomorrow, blog people. I’ll get back to blogging when I get out there.
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374 comments Add your comment
K-Dogg
February 17th, 2011
9:53 pm
Yeah i was on the Shaq thing all summer!!!!!! I knew that would bite us in the a**!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
brigadierjerry
February 17th, 2011
10:00 pm
A good acquisition although probably wont happen but he is expiring contract for the Hawks would be to go after Nene. Good center
superiorblogman
February 17th, 2011
10:10 pm
Teague is not a PG, go look at his stats in college, he averaged the same amount of assist as turnovers. He was selected as a strictly upside guy. Thus, I would not give up on him yet, now if your draft scouts are that bad that they thought he would be ready to be an NBA starter already they are the ones that should be fired. Teague needs to be sent to the D-League if he is not going to get playing time. I would trade Jordan Crawford though, because I would have never picked him. He is small for a NBA shooting guard but so is DWayne Wade, the difference is Wade is truly gifted to know how to play basketball. Also, Wade played some PG for the Heat early in his career. Crawford needs to get a chance at the PG or be traded, because he is not going to be able to see the floor as a SG all the time because of his size. I hate this team.
Bibby= I actually like him because he is the only player that can get you into sets all the time.
Joe= I have been his biggest supporter but he is starting to piss me off. Too inconsistent.
Marvin=I like him coming off the bench until that is his permanent place he is being overly valued.
Josh Smith= Needs to be traded because he does not care to change for the betterment of the team.
Al= Really like Al, but he needs to be a PF and needs to work on some moves going toward the baseline.
Jamal= Can’t wait to see him go. Would rather it be a trade to get something for him but the front office sucks.
Mo= Despise this guy as a basketball player. He had the nerves to say he is underpaid, LMAO.
Damien= He is a keeper at the minimum pay scale.
Jordan= Don’t like him as a SG, built in mismatch with his lack of size. Hated it draft night and still do.
Teague= Doubt he will ever be a PG with a 2 to 1 Assist to turnover ratio, but we should not trade him until he is given atleast 24 minutes a night for atleast 40 games.
Pape= WTF sense did that make?
Josh Powell= Does not rebound so I am cool with him not being in consistent rotation.
Zaza= Worthless needs to be traded.
Etan= Just a few more months before he can hit the door.
Collins= He is a keeper at the minimum pay scale.
SteveW
February 17th, 2011
10:20 pm
Superiorblogman – This from the Sporting News, among several sources:
“Warriors point guard Stephen Curry is guarded by Bulls point guard Derrick Rose. Golden State has said it would listen to offers for Curry and the rest of its players. (AP Photo)”
This has been reported for weeks.
And I have no idea what the rest of your post was about. Maybe offer them Teague, JC2, and 2 first picks and see what happens. The salaries work.
JJ and Bibby wouldn’t be nearly as good as JJ and Curry.
Teague wouldn’t diminish GSW’s backcourt size by much, if at all in place of Curry.
But GSW has been shopping Curry for weeks, and said they want a superstar in return. But in effect 4 first picks may entice them. I doubt it, but it might. Sure would help the Hawks.
Maybe you were referring to another post or something.
rusty
February 17th, 2011
10:21 pm
Any one would be an improvement over mb. It’s not only his poor defense but also lack of taking over the offense. Thisnteam will never cut it with the ball in jj’s hands,the team has to run thru a pg.how anyone on this team can knock jt forth few min a game that he gets. In order to see whatnhe can do we need to play him at least 20 min a game with the first unit for the rest of the season. How could we be any worst off than we are now, he will force this team to play uptempo ball,get us easier baskets, not all jump shots & make the rest of the players to be held more accountable for their own man. Give him a chance & this team should get better,got to be an improvement. 8 min every 2 games proves nothing & any one in their right mind would play jc2 over mo
drmaryb (*_*)
February 17th, 2011
10:26 pm
Poor Man’s Wade!
I see jordan’s game and flashes of a rookie DWade. Let that dude play the PG. Why not? What have we got to lose?
Teague is NOT a PG never was. Has small hands and no court vision, does not know his position, nor where the team’s position is, nor does he know this motion offense. At least Josh is smart enough to see the plays before it happens, because he took the time to know where everybody is supposed to be. That was the GIFT Rodman had on the floor and his ability to know the physics of rebounding. Dennis could see where the ball was coming off the rim, five shots ahead of the game. And, was smart enough not to ever shoot the ball.
SteveW
February 17th, 2011
10:34 pm
BTW, for the folks that say JT was not the PG for Wake in ‘08-’09, but that Ishmael Smith was, Smith only played 22 mpg that season. JT sure looked like he was running that team that season when I saw them.
But Teague was drafted as an upside guy. He’s not a true PG yet, and may never be. Lou Williams and Jason Terry come to mind.
SteveW
February 17th, 2011
10:35 pm
And no other PG played significant minutes other than Smith or Teague for Wake that season either…
SteveW
February 17th, 2011
10:46 pm
Drmaryb – With the way LD plays young G’s all you see for a long time is flashes of a poor mans Wade. No JC2 sighting other than that blowout by Philly for a long time. 9 DNP’s in the last 10 games for JC2.
But that’s an improvement. JC2 played zero minutes in the month of December. Zero. None. Zilch.
Rookie development at it’s best by your Atlanta Hawks!
What do you think Popovich would have done?
And for those guys that wish we would have drafted DeJuan Blair, so what? He would have sat on the bench like the rest of the ‘Rooks’ in the Larry Brown, Woody, LD school of hard knocks.
I sure wanted DeJuan on draft day as well. But draft Landry? On the end of the bench with the Hawks. It’s not the players, but the Head coaching guys…
superiorblogman
February 17th, 2011
10:48 pm
Teague nor Acie Law could average atleast a 2 to 1 assist to turnover ratio in college. They were both bad picks if you are looking for someone to run your team. The Hawks do not know how to draft PG’s simple and easy.
SteveW
February 17th, 2011
10:51 pm
Oops!! I missed that Boston game in Dec. JC2 did play 1 game out of 17 in December. For 8 minutes. When we had nobody against Boston because of injury.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
10:55 pm
String 1- Teague, JJ, J-smoove, Horford, Collins
String 2 – JC2, JC1, Marvin, Powell, Zaza
String 3 – Bibby, Mo, Wilkins, Pape, Etan
If we don’t make these changes we will not stand a chance in the playoffs.
P.S. Teague is a beast. Get over it. Stop hating.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
10:58 pm
For the record, Josh Powell is the best backup Power Forward we have had in Atlanta probably over the last decade. He sure beats the heck out of Solomon Jones and Joe smith. He deserves playing time.
drmaryb (*_*)
February 17th, 2011
11:00 pm
From RotoWorld (a fantasy blog). So, take it for what it is:
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Ramon Sessions draws interest from Knicks, Hawks, Blazers

1 Comment
Feb 17, 2011, 4:26 PM EST
Kurt Helin
We’re members of the Ramon Sessions fan club. He’s not going to make you forget about Chris Paul, but he’s a quality point guard who plays within himself. He’s quick (clearly a lot quicker than Derek Fisher and Steve Blake after dropping 32 on the Lakers Wednesday), he’s good in transition and impressive on the pick-and-roll. Can’t really knock down the three so he doesn’t take them. Wish more guys would do that.
And the Cavs are finding a lot of trade interest from teams interested in acquiring Sessions, according to a tweet from ESPN’s Chris Broussard.
Sources say ATL, Portland, NYK among the teams interested in Cavs’ Ramon Sessions.
Atlanta makes a lot of sense. They start Mike Bibby at the point. He came into the NBA when Grover Cleveland was president. They wanted Jeff Teague to take that job away from him, but Teague has proven unable. They need a better option and Sessions game would fit well on offense with what the Hawks do (we mean he can watch Josh Smith take an ill-advised jumper as well as anyone). Not sure that Sessions pushes them past anyone in the East — especially in the playoffs — but he’s an affordable ($4 million this season, $4.2 million next) option.
The question is on defense — is he a better defender than Bibby? The numbers on Synergy this season say no, and Byron Scott has been frustrated with Sessions’ defense in Cleveland. But Bibby has such better big men behind him covering up his mistakes than Sessions we find it hard to compare. Basically, we’re not sure Sessions can be worse than Bibby.
As for the Knicks, Sessions makes a good fit as a backup to Raymond Felton or Chauncey Billups or whomever they have as the starting point by the end of next week.
Portland is looking at moving Andre Miller and if so Sessions would be a good fit, he could pick up a lot of assists lobbing the ball into LaMarcus Aldridge.
Where Sessions ends up depends on who can offer the best combo of picks and young players (or expiring deals) — the Cavs need to rebuild and you can bet they plan to deal Sessions to help that process.
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zblott – Feb 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM
Here’s why so many teams want Sessions:
http://www.behindthebasket.com/btb/2010/7/28/hey-nba-develop-this-young-pg.html
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:01 pm
Teague/Collins = Rondo/Perkins
Ray/Paul/KG = Big 3
Joe/J-Smoove/Horford = Big 3
It’s all about balance…
KevinM
February 17th, 2011
11:08 pm
Collins can’t stay on the court beyond 20 minutes. 6 fouls is the limit in the NBA.
DMB – how bout remembering Marvin Webster and David Thompson of the ‘75 draft…yes, it has been worse around here than what Marvin Williams came with.
Sessions? no thx….are you telling me there’s a NBA guard who can’t shoot a 3? Really? Andre Miller? Really? Talk about one less weapon in the arsenal.
northcyde
February 17th, 2011
11:10 pm
vava74
February 17th, 2011
1:55 pm
http://popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20110216&game=ATLNYK
Our lead (small) in the first quarter went down the drain when Bibby left the floor and entered…
The UNDERTAKER (Jamal).
With Bibby on the floor JJ was assigned to Felton and probably that changed when Jamal got in (nire, please confirm).
Then, Jamal, who was having a monster game, AGAIN played a 17 minute straight shift to close the game.
Is anyone looking at stats in the Hawks organization?
Apart from a few (very very few) scattered games Jamal has been EXTREMELY ineffective in virtually all late 3rd + 4th quarter shifts that LD stubbornly gets him to play.
This has happened even on games in which he scores 16-24 points since he gets 80-90% of his points in the early part of the game.
Last night it was the double wammy: Jamal’s first shift (last 5 minutes 10 second of the 1st quarter and first 3 min 22 second of the second) produced a brilliant ± of -17!!!!!
*******
Tell it like it is vava. Popcornmachine.net is one of my favorite basketball sites, because you can see beyond a shadow of a doubt who was on the floor when things started to collapse.
People blaming Bibby. Blaming JJ. Blaming Smith. Blaming Drew.
When the common denominator has been the absolutely poor play of Jamal Crawford. I wonder if he’s watching the blog right now.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:10 pm
Pulling the picture together for you:
String 1- Teague, JJ, J-Smoove, Horford, Collins
String 2 – JC2, JC1, Marvin, Powell, Zaza
String 3 – Bibby, Mo, Wilkins, Pape, Etan
If we don’t make these changes we will not stand a chance in the playoffs.
P.S. Teague is a beast. Get over it. Stop hating.
Teague/Collins = Rondo/Perkins
Ray/Paul/KG = Big 3
Joe/J-Smoove/Horford = Big 3
It’s all about balance…
For the record, Josh Powell is the best backup Power Forward we have had in Atlanta probably over the last decade. He sure beats the heck out of Solomon Jones and Joe smith. He deserves playing time.
KevinM
February 17th, 2011
11:10 pm
Okay, Melo details are going forward tonight…
“The proposed deal would be for Derrick Favors, Devin Harris, Troy Murphy, Ben Uzoh and four future first rounders in exchange for Anthony, Chauncey Billups, Renaldo Balkman and Melvin Ely.”
Sad that we can’t get a shot at Chauncey…an 8 for 4 swap.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:13 pm
I don’t know how accurate defensive rating and defensive win shares are (they are team-dependent so they can’t be compared in a vacuum), but they paint a picture of Sessions as an average defender compared to his teammates. Average still beats Bibby, and the more important thing is that Sessions would presumably contribute enough on offense to offset any defensive problems he causes.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4ukp8yw
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:16 pm
Jamal is just a bandaid (his scoring when he is hot) that covers up deeper issues. The main one is player/personell balance on the floor.
By implementing my proposed player rotation a lot of these flaws will subside…..or at least the blowouts will…
northcyde
February 17th, 2011
11:17 pm
In the last 4 games, Jamal is 8 – 30 FG from the field ( 27% shooting )
Blame Drew all you want, but when people can’t make shots, can’t defend, and won’t play tough, it’s tough to blame the coach for all of those things happening at the same time.
Blame the players folks. But you won’t, because some of you still believe Teague solves all of this. But because LD refuses to play him, you still blame Drew, instead of just seeing that the team consists of 5.5 players.
And if one or two of those players are really off their games, we’re dead in the water.
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As for JJ . . which JJ do some of you want? He was deferring to others all last game, playing “team ball”. If you want him to score more, he can’t defer to others. If you want him to play team ball, other guys will get touches and his shots will be down.
So which JJ do you want?
northcyde
February 17th, 2011
11:18 pm
Actually . . blame the ASG and Sund. They were the ones who hired the coach that you now hate, and did very little to upgrade the roster this summer.
Carlos
February 17th, 2011
11:19 pm
The Hawks have several problems, but one of the biggest is Josh Smith. People need to stop talking about how good Josh Smith is. He’s garbo.
Josh Smith’s ppg numbers are inflated because he gets more chances to do ill advised things than just about any other non-super star player.
Look at the amount of ill advised jump shot attempts he takes. Look at the amount of wild shots he puts up. Most guys on most other teams would have been yanked off the court. If you give most of the guys riding the pine on any random NBA team’s bench the chance just to get the ball and fire up 6 or 7 jump shots and a few wild attempts off post moves every game, their ppg would go up too, because hey some would have to fall.
Josh Smith on ball defense is not that great, and the help defense he’s noted for wouldnt even be a need if we had guards that could stay in front of their man or bigs that could handle other teams’ bigs.
Josh Smith’s highlight reel dunks have some of you blinded. This guy is not an All Star.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:22 pm
Yo, my bad about the zaza comment earlier lol. I’m willing to bet if he got consistant minutes he would perform better though.
LD pretty much played only the starters + Jamal in the second half of that knicks game. They were clearly gassed. LD has lost fatih in his bench and I cannot understand why…..well yes I can. If he had, Bibby, JC1, JC2, and Marvin coming off of his bench he would surely sub more often right?
Basically, LD needs to take my advice and start my lineup of JT, JJ, Smoove, Horford, and Collins. Promote JC2 to the second string and demote Mike Bibby to the third string (or trade him along with Mo and Zaza smh…).
drmaryb (*_*)
February 17th, 2011
11:26 pm
Najeh! What’s up fella?
Did you see that link I posted on sessions. It was the first insight I’ve gotten on what his talents really are. But, he sounds a lot like a very young Steve Nash w/o a 3 pt shot. But we don’t need another 3pt shooter, we need a facilitating PG like a Nash.
Sessions would flourish with our athletic wings and guards.
I can’t see any Trade Machine stuff on this B-Berry, but Ramon looks like he can be had for what we have to offer:
All they want are expiring contracts and we got like 5 of those.
Hey, Dan Gilbert is “Throwing in The Towel”.
Let’s hope Sund has his “Catcher’s Mit” oiled up and ready to receive?
This Sessions guy sounds like a Poor Man’s Nash – And everybody knows we Broke:
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Send Danny Boy, Marvin & Expiring Filler. (Not Jordan and Not Teague).
They can have Evans, Powell, Etan, Jamal and whoever else is expired!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:26 pm
Here is a trade involving Smoove that I think would actually improve the Hawks…
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6xqj3mc
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:27 pm
LD needs to have Josh Smith on a 5:1 ratio. 5 post-ups/drives to the basket for every jumpshot you take. It’s that simple. If smoove breaches the ratio, the he automatically comes out of the game.
In conclusion, LD is whipped.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:30 pm
…for those of you who are insistent upon trading Smoove.
The majority of trades I see proposed about him on here are garbage for one reason or another, but that one (not my idea, saw it on a message board) would keep the Hawks good defensively while easily making up for the loss of Smoove talent-wise.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:31 pm
I like that trade but we’re taking on too many guards. Ship Bibby and Mo to NY since thay are loosing two point guards. They wont mind lol.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:33 pm
“Did you see that link I posted on sessions. It was the first insight I’ve gotten on what his talents really are. But, he sounds a lot like a very young Steve Nash w/o a 3 pt shot. But we don’t need another 3pt shooter, we need a facilitating PG like a Nash. ”
I honestly have seen very little of Sessions in the NBA — I mainly know about him from his statistical explosion at the end of the season a few years ago that won me a fantasy basketball league — but in the link you posted, Andre Miller is listed as a comparison. From what I know about his stats and his game, that seems pretty accurate.
superiorblogman
February 17th, 2011
11:33 pm
Please stop discussing Sessions he is even more of a band-aid than Jamal was. Denver was once said to not really want Devin Harris. If that deal gets done, jump in and snag Devin Harris while giving them another 1st round pick. Jamal, Zaza, and a 2012 1st rounder for Harris. Try to keep Teague because Bibby will soon be off books and hopefully you can keep him for the veteran minimum after that.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4zpd5pu
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:34 pm
That Smoove trade would also allow the Hawks to trade Jamal for more help in the front court, since they would have a surplus of guards (as Booo points out).
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:35 pm
On second thought, it’s a tolerable trade. But I was never one for getting rid of smoove (as evidenced by my excellent lineup shifts
. I will never give Ty Lawson credit either. He just gets more PT. Teague will be better if given the oppourtunity.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:36 pm
“Jamal, Zaza, and a 2012 1st rounder for Harris. ”
You’re going to have to explain why anyone would want to trade for the 3 years and $13 million left on Zaza’s contract, considering he has looked like a bottom 5 player in this league this year. Besides that, I wouldn’t mind.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:40 pm
I’m a big fan of Nene’s Game, but the guy gets injured A LOT….makes me a little nervous.
superiorblogman
February 17th, 2011
11:43 pm
Nene averages fewer rebounds than Josh Smith, fewer blocks than Josh Smith, fewer points than Josh Smith. He is very overrated by some people on these boards. I don’t like Josh as a basketball player but neither do I like Nene. I would rather hope that Kendrick Perkins, Tyson Chandler, Deandre Jordan or Marc Gasol some type of way get away from there current teams this summer. We can actually get a PG, I don’t think a good C is really out there to get, unless you think Kaman is good which I don’t.
superiorblogman
February 17th, 2011
11:47 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
February 17th, 2011
11:36 pm
“Jamal, Zaza, and a 2012 1st rounder for Harris. ”
You’re going to have to explain why anyone would want to trade for the 3 years and $13 million left on Zaza’s contract, considering he has looked like a bottom 5 player in this league this year. Besides that, I wouldn’t mind.
What do you ever explain? I will explain though, they save money over the life of the contracts. Would you rather have 3 years $4 million or 3 years $27 million if you didn’t want either? That’s a easy answer, now you throw in a 1st round pick and possible Jamal to replace JR Smith because they don’t like JR Smith’s attitude. I think it’s a very possible trade if the Hawks would reach out, and the best part they are not over the luxury.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:55 pm
superiorblogman, Thats a nice trade. Too bad NJ has closed the door on Denver. I Really wanted Devin Harris.
Booo!
February 17th, 2011
11:57 pm
Ooops, just saw the hoopshype news. Love it! I hope sund has a brain! Get us Devin!
Big Ray
February 17th, 2011
11:59 pm
Some pretty good posts by Najeh, Northcyde, and Superiorblogman.
Slimjr
February 18th, 2011
12:07 am
“I don’t really care if Marvin goes somewhere else and blow up!
We just don’t need him here – we never did. He is holding up our PG needs and always has, (regardless of who’s to blame)”
drmaryb is right on pt!! Marvin cost us two hall of fame pg’s (CP3&DWILL) and future Allstar R. Felton!! He will always be associated with that #2 pick in 2005 that could have set up the Hawks for Championship type runs over the next decade maybe?
David Stern= The fix is in..There will be no Championships in Atlanta…never..I get it now Mr. Stern……
Marvin was “a terrible pick” for the reason stated above..Go git a real pg and ship Marvin outta here asap, yesterday……………………
Gearon
February 18th, 2011
12:13 am
Read my lips: There will be no trades! I love my core…We are elite at 33-21…..Bibby is in his prime at this time…We love JJ..That’s why I paid max dollars for him..Josh and Al are holding their own. Jamal will get back on track..He’s got 27 games to get ready for the Big Dance…Calm down Hawks fans, everythang is gonna be alright…
darrell starks
February 18th, 2011
12:32 am
Superiorblogman BAD TRADE NO WAY YOU TRADE ZAZA, this team already is horrible with no size you trade 6′11 ZAZA then your the smallest team in the nba, and with the hawks rank almost dead last in rebounding i say no 2 giving up ZAZA.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
darrell starks
February 18th, 2011
12:38 am
Every time coach LD go 2 that smallish line up the hawks look bad against good team, LD rotation was the worst all year last night 7man rotation was the woody of old bad, coaching with no game plan GET A BIG FAT F.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 18th, 2011
12:44 am
In other news, we now know what Joe is doing with all that max contract money.
darrell starks
February 18th, 2011
12:44 am
RANK 27 OFF REBOUND I BLAME THIS ON LD, every body want to jumpshots, COLLINS AND ZAZA are the only banger in side the paint and COACH LD NEVER PLAY THEM.
AGAIN OUT REBOUNDED NY 44 REBOUND ATL 38 THIS IS EVERY GAME.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
superiorblogman
February 18th, 2011
12:53 am
Josh Smith is the total downfall of the Hawks
You know Josh Smith is the downfall of this organization even more so than Bibby being the PG or the Marvin Williams pick. Let me explain. When Josh was drafted by the Hawks he was drafted as a SF. Rather or not the front office could foresee Josh gaining a lot of weight or his body filling out or him being a inconsistent perimeter shooter is debatable, but what is not debatable is Josh was moved to PF after they figured he could not handle the SF position. Then they select Marvin as the SF. Then Sheldon as the Center or whatever the hell that was. Then trade for Joe as the SG and Speedy as PG. That was suppose to be the team. The team was built around one guy not being able to pull his weight and that is Josh. It was done all wrong. You don’t build around a guy with faults as glaring as Josh. He must be traded he is the total downfall of this franchise.
Booo!
February 18th, 2011
12:56 am
WOW, Joe is an IDIOT.
In other news:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVfZCz0xd4o
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slimjr
February 18th, 2011
1:03 am
” Wed 02 vs Chicago
Fri 04 vs Oklahoma City
Sun 06 vs New York
Tue 08 vs LA Lakers
Fri 11 @ Chicago
Sat 12 vs Portland
Tue 15 vs Milwaukee
Wed 16 vs Denver
Fri 18 vs Miami
Sun 20 vs Detroit
Tue 22 vs Chicago
Wed 23 @ Philadelphia
Sat 26 vs New Jersey
Sun 27 @ Cleveland
Wed 30 vs Orlando
Well Mr. Gearon, looks like you won’t have to wait for the playoffs to see the wheels start to fall off the wagon..Your March schedule is going to be MADNESS!!!!!…Couldn’t happen to nicer guy…..
My remote will be busy…………LOL
You gotta love NBA TV! FYI, Chicago is rolling now. It does not bode well for the the Hawks..Can you spell steamroll????