Atlanta Hawks: Video: The Knicks, the East and the point guard (of course)

I talked Hawks with CineSport’s Noah Coslov. Note that I was operating on four hour’s sleep. Also, my head only looks that big because my NYC hotel room is so small.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

77 comments Add your comment

niremetal

February 15th, 2011
6:56 pm

Hopefully someone in the front office is watching/listening.

RA

February 15th, 2011
6:56 pm

Good point was made here. If Bibby could play at the level that he played at last night, the point guard problems would be solved, but he can’t. At this point in his career, Mike Bibby is not a starting point guard. He’s a guy that needs to come off the bench and be able to play all out for five to eight minutes at a time against the other teams second string PG. What we saw last night was a temporary thaw in the eternal frost. The Hawks need to address that problem.

superiorblogman

February 15th, 2011
7:03 pm

Amare is a fake tough guy, you can tell he is soft the way he plays D. The Knicks are getting too much credit and attention by the league. The Hawks need a C and PG.

EW

February 15th, 2011
7:09 pm

Dude, I had no idea you were so young. Your thumbnail photo makes you look like an old man! Switch it out! Commentary was spot on by the way. How are the Hawk management, coaches, and players responding to your assessment?

O'Brien

February 15th, 2011
7:27 pm

The problem for the Hawks is they are unbalanced. They have 2 very good SGs, and 2 very good PFs.

But the players at the other positions are not good enough, and the bench is lacking.

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tim

February 15th, 2011
8:02 pm

Cunningham….you mis spoke…you’re actually a very smnall man in a big hotel rooom.

day old fries

February 15th, 2011
8:11 pm

hawks and a rival? hahahaha

NCBravesFan

February 15th, 2011
8:37 pm

Nice job, MC. Sound was muffled a bit but it was a great interview and very insightful as always. Most of us wish we could do our jobs as well as you on 4 hours of sleep!

slimjr

February 15th, 2011
8:44 pm

MC
I think you have a fan(starts with T)……

slimjr

February 15th, 2011
8:51 pm

Hawks will beat the Knickerbockers!!!

james kirkland

February 15th, 2011
9:20 pm

LISTEN PLEASE HAWKS BRASS, GO GET STEFFON CURRY!!!

darrell starks

February 15th, 2011
9:22 pm

IT looks like there will a lot of beef this weekend in the allstar game from the east side, HORFORD VS AMARE WADE VS GARNETT LEBRON VS PIERCE
WOW!!!!!!!!!! MIGHT BE A BIG FIGHT BEFORE ALLSTAR GAME IN LOCKER ROOM.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

February 15th, 2011
9:30 pm

Horford will punish old soft Amare tommorrow night in the paint.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wonder Who

February 15th, 2011
10:00 pm

tim…. are you Asian, by chance?

darrell starks

February 15th, 2011
10:08 pm

If the hawks can get devin harris they will be and elite team.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Section 303

February 15th, 2011
10:11 pm

God….I hope Al just lights that place up tomorrow night. I f’ing hate the Knicks. I f’ing hate every team from that city, actually. Always way, way, way overrated. And, always way, way, way over covered by the media.

You would think the Knicks were coming off back-to-back titles with all the attention they get.

Dirty Puppet

February 15th, 2011
10:15 pm

‘The Video you are trying to watch cannot be viewed from your country or location.’

From Australia (the last video posted had the same restriction’.

Little help?

SteveW

February 15th, 2011
10:25 pm

Trade:
Jeff Teague
Jordan Crawford
Pape Sy
1st Picks in ‘011 and ‘013

For Stephen Curry. Warriors get in rebuilding mode with lots of young talent and hopefuls, with a couple of 1st picks thrown in.

The Hawks of course get Stephen Curry. GSW might take it, who knows.

SteveW

February 15th, 2011
10:27 pm

The above trade works on Trade Machine BTW.

If necessary, throw in Jamal for Biedrins, so GSW has a bigger expiring contract for next season.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 15th, 2011
11:16 pm

“Najeh, I’m with you on getting T-Mac. I think he would help a lot. Wallace? Not so much. The guy was so underrated at one point that he’s become overrated. He has not made an impact on a team since the ‘05 Pistons. He is a little too washed up for my taste. ”

Ben Wallace has a higher rebound rate than anyone on the Hawks (except Etan Thomas who doesn’t really count). Considering the pathetic state of the Hawks’ big men, Ben would help a lot.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 15th, 2011
11:16 pm

^^Hawks’ backup big men, that is. Obviously I’m a big fan of Horford and Smoove.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 15th, 2011
11:19 pm

And more importantly, the three players the Hawks would get in that deal (T-Mac, Ben Wallace, Prince) wouldn’t increase the Hawks’ budget going forward.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 15th, 2011
11:29 pm

AL HORFORD WILL OWN AMARE tomorrow because we call him BOSS!

(don’t click the link if you are easily offended)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Fig_LoBy4

now that’s how Horford and the boys need to roll through NYC – send the Knicks on their all-star break right

Najeh Davenpoop

February 15th, 2011
11:40 pm

Amare needs to calm the f-ck down. Him talking about toughness would be like Bibby telling the Hawks to step up on defense. Al is more than capable of handling Amare in the paint. The Hawks need this game as much to establish their standing in the league as they do for their own confidence. A mentally tough team that stands together would look at some .500 team taking shots at them as a challenge and put them in their place. Time for the Hawks to show if they qualify.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 15th, 2011
11:43 pm

Also, Orlando could very easily win their next five games. They are facing a pretty easy portion of their schedule for the rest of the month. The Hawks need this game to keep pace.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

February 16th, 2011
1:01 am

Najeh. I totally agree with your 11:40 post.

RA

February 16th, 2011
5:47 am

@Steve W: I’ve got one big problem with your idea, it gives away Jordan Crawford and two first round picks. I believe that the team needs to be improved, but I don’t think that Atlanta should mortgage it’s whole future just to try to win big now. Also, I haven’t seen a lot of Jordan Crawford, but what I have seen reminds me a lot of Vinnie Johnson. I feel like he could be a really good streak shooter. Must Atlanta sure up the point in order to contend, absolutely, but I don’t think that we should sacrifice the future for the present.

Booo!

February 16th, 2011
6:18 am

Section 303

February 16th, 2011
7:52 am

If you’ve ever read Jack Macalum’s book 7-Seconds or Less, you know it follows the Suns during the ‘05-’06 season. D’Antoni is their coach and Amare is on the team. There are two different instances in the book where D’Antoni calls Amare a p#ssy. Both times to the other coaches.

So….Amare is a tough guy now? I highly doubt it.

terrell

February 16th, 2011
8:05 am

Bibby prolly still tired.

Trojan

February 16th, 2011
8:22 am

Bibby playing well the other night just before the trading deadline is about as useful as Bob Sura helping the Hawks win just enough games to miss out on drafting Dwight Howard.

Obrien said it best, we are extremely unbalanced as a team. We have 2 good shooting guards and 2 good power forwards and below average everything else. It is as if we were constructed with no plan at all. Go figure.

vava74

February 16th, 2011
8:45 am

dang, can’t see the video either.

MC, can’t you post this on youtube?

drmaryb (*_*)

February 16th, 2011
8:50 am

Vava74

I can never see his stuff either on this B-berry.

SteveW

February 16th, 2011
9:12 am

RA – To get your PG for the next 10 years, and a legit top 10-12 PG in the League at that, I would take it. I still think LD is one of those Coaches that has no interest at all in developing young G talent. So we need to get a proven guy. And our 1st picks would probably be in the 20’s. And with a Coach who may not like to develop young guys, we can always pick up your Wilkens, Carney, Shelden Williams, Acie Law type fillers for the vet minimum.

And yes, I’m still frustrated because I think LD is a Coach that doesn’t develop raw talent. Popovich does. Even Dr. Phil in LA does. Doc does. LD seems to be in a different mold. I’ve seen Coaches like that all the time.

SteveW

February 16th, 2011
9:17 am

I do hope we punk the Knicks tonight BTW. And if Bibby plays like a mad man again, we’ll know something is up. He looked like Jon Koncak playing for a contract Monday.

SteveW

February 16th, 2011
9:47 am

Great article from Hoopinion on how badly Al outplayed Amare in the Jan. 28th game: “Jonathan Abrams quoting Amar’e Stoudemire at Knicks practice on Tuesday talking about Al Horford and the January 28th meeting between the Hawks and the Knicks:

“He felt good. His team was winning. He had a couple baskets. He hit a couple jump shots. But he felt good. He felt like he was doing something. But welcome to New York.”

Stoudemire’s right. Horford was doing something in that game. He was grabbing 14 rebounds. He was earning six assists.

Stoudemire wasn’t doing those things (He grabbed three rebounds and earned one assist.) but he was turning the ball over three times (Horford committed one turnover.), sitting out the last five minutes of the first half with three fouls, and needing nine more shots from the field and four more attempts from the line to score eight more points than Horford.

Al Horford utterly dominated Amar’e Stoudemire in that game and it’s hard to believe that anyone took Stoudemire’s post-game quote about Horford at face value:

“He needs to calm down. He’s not that type of player. He don’t want to see me any night, so he might as well relax and calm down.”

Stoudemire wasn’t talking about decorum after the game. Nor is he now. He was and is expressing frustration over getting beat, both individually and as a Knick.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

February 16th, 2011
10:24 am

Stoudemire talkin that big boy talk…..We need to shut him up. Tough talk for a guy on a team struggling to stay above .500

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

February 16th, 2011
10:24 am

Stoudemire talkin that big boy talk…..We need to shut him up. Tough talk for a guy on a team struggling to stay above .500

Rufus1

February 16th, 2011
11:20 am

SteveW Co-sign 9:12am post

Some people refuse to acknowledge the idea that Woodson or LD had no intention of developing a youg PG and that might be the main reason we don’t have one.

The PG is the most difficult position in the league to learn, so you can’t give a player 8-10 every 3 games and expect him to be an allstar. You have to allow the young player to work thru their mistakes, so they can get confident.

Does anyone think Rondo’s none shooting a$$ would be the starting PG in ATL if the Hawks drafted him?….I DON”T
That is the real indictment on their committment to developing a young PG.

Sautee

February 16th, 2011
12:08 pm

Rufus,

about this: “Some people refuse to acknowledge the idea that Woodson or LD had no intention of developing a youg PG and that might be the main reason we don’t have one.”

Rufus, IMO this is misstatement. How would YOU know what the INTENTIONS of Woodson and LD were? You don’t, you ONLY know the outcome.

Could they not have had great intentions to play Teague more, but he kept proving them wrong?

And this is from someone who would LOVE to see Teague as our starting PG, but ONLY when he’s not the liability he has shown to be lately.

I get that you are frustrated that he isn’t playing more, but doesn’t Teague have some responsibility in the decision by the way he plays when he has a chance?

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 16th, 2011
12:17 pm

Cant wait to see if Bibby and Marvin produce today..

ICECOLD

February 16th, 2011
12:27 pm

trade marvin, zaza, and a first round pick for my grandma

lol.. but seriously… trade marvin, zaza, bibby, and a first round pick for steph curry..
why would they want that trade, I dont think they would, but maybe if we throw in…. jamal crawford, abd etan thomas. for hasheem thabeet too…

Share your trade

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=6g24qr7

Mike is back

February 16th, 2011
12:33 pm

MC, Great Stuff, interesting comment on Bibby, unfortunately for Bibby his performance against Detroit…was the exception…instead of the norm.

Like I previously stated…I like LD’s overall stewardship of the Hawks, and I want to see him do well…again unfortunately his approach at time is eerily similar to his predecessor.

Woody use to ride JJ like a borax mule, and the dude would be out of gas come playoff time…and LD is doing the exact same thing with Bibby.

The only different is one guy had a fresher mule…than the other…less hope some kind of trade is in the works…Cuz dude is going to wear down…it’s only a matter of time.

Absent a trade…LD needs to map out a five to ten game stretch in schedule where he can get Bibby some rest and get Teague some burn.

To my follow bloggers on the AL versus Amare thing…pleaaase already on Al dominating Amare…Al can hold his own…however a finesse Big with power like Amare…gives Al fits…what’s all the talk anyway…we all know Josh will be the primary defender on Amare.

But heck, I would love to see Al dominate Amare too…so I’m witcha…just kind of keeping it real on this one…cuz I know the Hawks have a huge challenge ahead of them.

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

February 16th, 2011
12:33 pm

darrell starks

February 16th, 2011
12:34 pm

AL HORFORD THE BOSS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Rufus1

February 16th, 2011
12:37 pm

No, I am not a Mind Reader, but…

I can only go on what I have seen over the last 7 years. Based on the evidence over the last 7 years, I have come to this conclusion.
The unexplained playing time. The double standard for the vets over the youngsters. The double standard would be acceptable if we weren’t dealing with 1st rd draft picks and an ENORMOUS need for a young active PG. We had and have one of the worst PG situation in the NBA and I don’t see the desire to change it. Also after watching the Patience shown to players like Rondo, Jennings and Jrue Holliday, it is evident to me our coaches have no desire to go thru the growing pains. There are probably 20 PG’s over the past seven years that have been developed that are better than any PG we have had. Finally, as bad as Bibby has been recently, how do you justify his playing time.

Do you think this is just bad luck in drafting? This pattern of behavior and the excuses given about LAW, are now being said about Teague…. Just coincidence, I don’t think so.

Reggie

February 16th, 2011
12:51 pm

From CBSSportsline.com

The Hawks are looking for guard help, and sources say they may be interested in the Cavs’ Ramon Sessions. The feeling among rival execs is that the Hawks may be willing to spend up to or perhaps even a bit beyond the luxury-tax threshold if there’s a deal that would significantly improve their chances in a playoff series with Boston, Orlando or Miami.

darrell starks

February 16th, 2011
1:10 pm

Ramon Session will not improve the hawks, the hawks have the piece 2 go get a devin harris which make them a contender day one against BOSTON, ORLANDO, MIAMI.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!

darrell starks

February 16th, 2011
1:13 pm

darrell starks

February 16th, 2011
1:16 pm

STARTER DEVIN, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, COLLINS
BENCH BIBBY, DAMIEN, OUTLAW, POWELL, ZAZA
RESERVE MO, TEAGUE
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!

Najeh Davenpoop

February 16th, 2011
1:17 pm

Sessions is not bad, but it seems a little far fetched that the Hawks would be willing to take on the extra two years and $9 million on his deal after this year. Also seems a little far fetched for the Hawks to be interested in a guard who can’t shoot considering LD’s preference for playing “shotmakers”.

vava74

February 16th, 2011
1:20 pm

darrell,

Harris plays almost as little D as Bibby.

STRETCH

February 16th, 2011
1:24 pm

Well something needs to happen, but they wont until Melo-Drama is over! Teams are waiting and trying to feel out what happens next.

vava74

February 16th, 2011
1:28 pm

Najeh,

Sessions is intriguing. I like the fact that he fills up the boxscore with FTs, assists AND rebounds. Kind of a diet/work in progress version of Fat Lever (his rebounding would definitively help us since our guards are many times very passive snatching loose balls).

I would take it and for that I would trade Jamal since CLE is probably interested in shedding payroll.

Although he can’t start consistently on a bad team, his numbers on http://www.82games.com seem promising since CLE scores more (by a lot) and suffers less points with him on the floor.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 16th, 2011
1:39 pm

“darrell starks

Ramon Session will not improve the hawks, the hawks have the piece 2 go get a devin harris ”
_________________

Uggh …. Devin was available to the Nuggets for Melo & Billups level talent. The Hawks don’t have a Melo-Billups on their roster!
We are NOT sending Joe, Josh nor Al for devin. Move on people, be realistic with this trade fantasies! Teague and Jamal with
“pork-belly filler” ain’t gonna’ get you Stephan Curry either!

KevinM

February 16th, 2011
1:42 pm

What I see from Sessions, I would welcome him here as well.
We have to do something period. There is no chance to survive the playoffs w/o a big influx. Is it enough? It probably isn’t but it is worth the attempt. 2 more years at 4.2M and 4.5M…a starter deserves those type numbers. Sessions is not a 3 pt shooter, FYI…

Give me Billups first if you can get involved with that Denver Melo mess, as the time to go forward is now. Hard for me to see a PG coming out of the draft that would be a big impact. That doesn’t help us this year, which is the key.
What is Portland asking for Andre Miller?

Rufus1

February 16th, 2011
1:46 pm

Ramon Sesssions

Wow.. That sounds like the most plausible deal I have heard the Hawks being apart of. He only make 4mil this year and Mo and Teague would be enoungh/or this could be the marvin trade many have been hoping for. The cavs are under the salary cap and could take back more money…Plus the Hawks stay under the cap next year also. I like the deal alot if Mo is the Main trade chip.

KevinM

February 16th, 2011
1:48 pm

Haha, I just saw Millers 3FG% this year: 3/28: 10! Oh boy! Career: 20!

Sessions, 0% this year, 16% career!

That is amazing that there are PGs that just cannot shoot the 3 these days.

sam'l

February 16th, 2011
1:50 pm

I agree with both Rufus and Sautee. Hawks do definitely not provide an atmosphere to develop players like San Antonio which is one reason they have the best record in the league. And I haven’t seen any real individual smarks from Teague as to how to fit in and develop.

The story here isn’t fighting Amare….it’s about how the Hawks come back from being humiliated at home and then losing a 22 point lead to a very beatable team while the trade deadline winds down and the Hawks players wonder how they’re going to spend all their money and where the next big party is going to be.

Just because they do exactly the opposite ot common sense, they will beat New York tonight. .

I think rather than be ticked at Amare who has been fun to watch over the years and is now my female roommate’s favorite player, rather than be ticked off at a guy who has come back from two devastating injuries…..knee and eye……I would be pissed at Blake Griffin who in an apparent fit of pique, put Horford out of action for several games…..

sam'l

February 16th, 2011
1:50 pm

typo substitute smarts for smarks

KevinM

February 16th, 2011
1:52 pm

Has Sund and Gearon FINALLY acknowledged that a point guard is needed to move forward? Amazing how quick they catch on…

I like what Boston did a few years ago when the Garnett trade was accomplished: they brought in Rondo and Sebastian Telfair and let the better young PG win! Rivers clashed with Rondo, but also improved him.
I liked seeing that because they knew they needed a PG to lead them back to an elite status. If you recall, the year before Garnett, they were a mess!

lewis

February 16th, 2011
1:52 pm

Saw Sessions play in person against the clippers the other day…he was the only positive for the Cavs

Ramon

February 16th, 2011
2:29 pm

Anyone who doesn’t believe Ramon Sessions would be a great addition to this team, is clearly misinformed. Sessions may not be an all star, but he is a quality NBA player. In only 25 minutes a game, he’s averaging 11 and 5. In five less minutes, he’s averaging more points and assists than Bibby. I actually believe he could be a great compliment to Bibby, if he can provide good defense as well. With the exception of Bibby, he will clearly be the best point guard we’ve had since before A. Johnson. He’s a career 45% shooter from the field. That means he knows his strengths and weaknesses. The fact that he’s not a great 3 point shooter is a good thing, because that’s one less person who will be taking too many jump shots. And the great part is he’s still young, at 24 years old, so he still can improve, and hasn’t reached his peak years yet as an NBA player. If it costs Mo and someone else, I say go for it. While you’re at it, see if they’ll throw in Holmes also.

Mac-Town, Georgia (urban-macon.blogspot.com)

February 16th, 2011
2:31 pm

Anything would improve the bench at this point.

Ramon

February 16th, 2011
2:36 pm

@Mac, EXACTLY! People saying that won’t improve the Hawks, forget what we have.

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February 16th, 2011
2:40 pm

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Sautee

February 16th, 2011
2:43 pm

Rufus,

about this: “Also after watching the Patience shown to players like Rondo, Jennings and Jrue Holliday, it is evident to me our coaches have no desire to go thru the growing pains.”

This is NOT apples and apples, it’s apples and oranges.

Why? Because all three of those players you mentioned were on teams that were themselves rebuilding, in the lower half (or even lower – sixers last year) of the East, and NOT competing for a home court advantage.

Also, you have to take the makeup of the roster into account. If we didn’t have Jamal playing MANY PG minutes, then Teague would likely get more of a shot. Do you want to cut Jamal’s minutes in favor of Teague? (I might, but it WOULD hurt the offense).

If the Bucks or Sixers had Jamal, and he were playing those kind of PG minutes for them, then the playing time of Holliday and Jennings may have been lessened.

If Doc had Jamal playing major PG minutes in 06-07, how much burn would Rondo have gotten? Certainly not as much as when he was the only viable PG on the roster. (Unless you consider a 19 year old Sebastian Telfair as viable, lol)

The patience you mention is MUCH easier to come by when you have less to lose. So maybe a truer statement would be to say that the coaches have less desire UNDER THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES to develop Teague than they would if we were not contending for a home playoff berth.

Rufus, I’ve gone on record as saying trade Jamal for a starting PG. I don’t mind keeping Teague and seeing how he grows, but I don’t think he’s ready THIS YEAR to be a starter in the league.

Katie

February 16th, 2011
2:46 pm

I want to see Al smash Amare’s goggles.

Rufus1

February 16th, 2011
3:19 pm

Sautee

I agree with the statement, “The Bucks and Sixers had less to lose”, but that wasn’t Boston. I think Rondo was a 2nd year PG when Doc gave him the PG job and that was the 1st year KG and Allen arrived.(Please correct me if I am wrong)

I watched a lot of celtic games that year and Rondo was as bad a Teague, but Doc stuck with him. Doc new the could still win regular season games with Rondo learning the PG position, because they would need confident Rondo in the playoffs.

The simple fact is that I think Woody or LD would be happy to trade for another teams GOOD/SOLID PG(Ramon sessions) instead of taking the time or risk to develop a great one.

Teague is GREAT athlete…He needs GOOD coaching to become a GOOD PG.

PG is the hardest position in the NBA to learn…

Example…

Jamal has been running the PG for the Hawks late in games since Bibby’s slump. Have you seen the shooting slump Jamal has been in since taking on the job. Playing SG in the NBA is low level fractions, but the PG position is like calculus. It is a difficult job for a vet SG, How hard must it be for a 2nd year player getting inconsistant minutes.

James Tracy

February 16th, 2011
3:26 pm

I thought that they was Looking at that Pg Carrlos Lyles from Reinhardt University from what i heard..

KevinM

February 16th, 2011
4:02 pm

Rufus, you are correct; Year 2 of Doc and Rondo and that was the when the Big 3 came together. It was the 1st time that 3 guys received that kind of hype. When its said and done, all 3 and probably Rondo will get into the HOF.
Now that’s rebuilding at its finest! They gave up 5 players, including Al Jefferson and they were not satisfied with slow progress. They were playing to win it now, because after 6 years of building, what more do you have to see?
Yes, Sautee, we saw how Telfair ended up after he competed with Rondo, but you weren’t saying that that preseason. The job was up in the air, and that team is not the team today without a legit PG.
Now, you talk Sessions and how we don’t need him to shoot the 3. I disagree; he has to be a semi-threat minimum. Rondo has never been a 16% 3FG shooter.

terrell

February 16th, 2011
4:28 pm

To the people saying we’re an unbalanced team. Are you saying that since we already had Josh at PF,that we shoulda passed on Horford for Conley? lol! BK really had no choice in that one as I’m sure we all can agree on. Al was the obvious pick. Or maybe your’re still reminiscing about Marvin over CP3 and Deron? That was the killer. That’s really where the unbalancing began. There was really no pg’s available when we took Shellhead. That draft class was pretty bad. Didnt need Roy, we had Joe. Dint need Gay, we had just taken Marvin(killer). Randy Foye was available though. Rondo wasnt 5th pick worthy at the time, but neither was Shellhead. lol! This is what makes the Marvin Williams pick so bad. 3 of the top 7 or 8 players in the draft were pg’s, and we still took Marvin even though we were in need of a pg after taking wings in the previous draft. Puzzling. Had they given up on Chills so quickly? The Sheldon pick was bad, but that draft class was bad overall. But the Marvin pick was Franchise changing in the worst way. That is where the unbalancing begin.

terrell

February 16th, 2011
4:29 pm

terrell

February 16th, 2011
4:40 pm

Reinhardt? Damn. Went to school there for a year back in 89. lol!

KevinM

February 16th, 2011
5:42 pm

What’s just as crazy terrell is if Sund decided to keep Chills to go along with the core; we would be even heavier at the 2 than we are now.
Chills is not big enough to be a 3 IMO, and as we now know, his value is of a reserve role. Taking the college POY at #6 would have made more sense, even though he wasn’t rated that high.
You simply have to go for need as much as ability.

That college POY: Jameer Nelson, who I wanted to take instead of Smoove at 17.

jason

February 16th, 2011
7:17 pm

The Hawks are looking for guard help, and sources say they may be interested in the Cavs’ Ramon Sessions. The feeling among rival execs is that the Hawks may be willing to spend up to or perhaps even a bit beyond the luxury-tax threshold if there’s a deal that would significantly improve their chances in a playoff series with Boston, Orlando or Miami. CBSSports.com