Hawks-Bobcats game thread

Greetings, all

Ken here for the last time in awhile as MC braces for the mother of all road trips.

1) You may find this interesting. On my way in to the arena, I was thinking to myself, If I were ever to feel good about wagering on a game (not that I wager), this would be it. Hawks have spent three days stewing over an embarrassing loss, playing at home where they’ve beaten Charlotte seven in a row, Al Horford back, Charlotte coming off a back to back, etc.

However, I confess I was not aware of what happened in Charlotte last night. The Bobcats lost at home to New Jersey, which had come into the game having lost 12 in a row on the road. Not only that, but Charlotte never led the whole game.

Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace excoriated their teammates for their lack of effort. Read these gems, excerpted from the Charlotte Observer game story (written by the very capable Rick Bonnell, who is sitting behind me in the media room):

“To not even show up at all is embarrassing,” said Jackson (21 points). “It’s sad that a coach has to ask guys to play hard…to care.”

“We acted like the other team was just going to fall down. There are only two or three teams in the league (good enough) that they can be like that. We’re not one of them.”

Or as Wallace (20 points and nine rebounds) added, “We just gave away a game in Indiana (Wednesday). We can’t keep doing that.

“We haven’t lost two (straight) games; we gave them away with our (lack of) effort. A coach should never have to ask for that.”

So, rather than being a gut-check game for one team, it’s a gut-check game for both. I still give the edge to the Hawks by basis of rest, being at home and the fact that they’re better, but this could be a bit more of a fight than you normally see in February.

2) This sort of feeds into 1), and is kind of amusing. I was in the locker room prior to the game, and it came to light that Wallace, from tiny Childersburg, Ala., bought 80 tickets for the game. Apparently even the mayor is coming. So Marvin Williams kiddingly wished Josh Smith good luck in defending a presumably extra-motivated Wallace. (Childersburg’s website claims it’s the “oldest city in America.” Not sure how that’s possible, but, hey, who am I to argue?

3) Nothing else new to report, really. Horford’s still going.

Enjoy the game.

442 comments Add your comment

Sautee

February 12th, 2011
6:53 pm

#1 with Waffle Fries and a Coke.

Sautee

February 12th, 2011
6:54 pm

And yes, I stole that idea from Astro Joe.

Sautee

February 12th, 2011
6:57 pm

Too bad the ‘cats come in here hungry. I’d much rather that they had won big last night.

I usually don’t watch all of Hawks Live, but I’m curious about the lineup, so tonight I will.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
6:59 pm

I would never bet on the Hawks with two or more days of rest this year. They are 5-8 this year with two or more days of rest, in contrast with their 11-4 record on the back end of back to backs.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:01 pm

From the previous blog…

“I just hope that some of these same people don’t act like they were down for the Hawks from Day 1, if we do the improbable, and get to the ECF.”

The majority of fans of any team do exactly that. They jump on the bandwagon when the team is doing well and looks like they can win titles, and they jump off when the team doesn’t look like it has a shot to contend. The difference between the Hawks and other teams is that other teams have contended for so long that they have built up a bigger base of die hard fans than the Hawks have. You and I are die hard fans, but we are also distinctly in the minority.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:02 pm

And obviously by “other teams” I mean “other teams that draw well”.

Ken Sugiura

February 12th, 2011
7:06 pm

well done sautee. chick-fil-a waffle fries sound pretty good.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:08 pm

Sautee,

I dont expect the lineup change tonight. And I also said if there was no lineup change, then I expect to see a change in how minutes are distributed.

So I dont think he has to make a lineup change (and you’re right…he didnt promise a lineup change). He has the option of just changing minutes distribution.

Maybe he just reduces Bibby and Jamal’s minutes, maybe he increases Teague’s minutes, maybe Mo Evans and ZaZa get less minutes…lots of options.

lewis

February 12th, 2011
7:12 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:13 pm

The way Al is moving, he clearly does not look 100%.

Hawks defense looks sluggish early.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:14 pm

Its nice to see Josh working inside early, especially since he is playing SF

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:14 pm

Smoove playing well in the post early on offense.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:15 pm

Najeh,

We need Al healthy for our 7 game road trip too…

ATL FAN

February 12th, 2011
7:19 pm

poor crowd in attendance

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:19 pm

Credit to Bibby, he has actually played OK on defense so far. Augustin shredded the Hawks in their first two meetings this year, but he hasn’t done much so far.

northcyde

February 12th, 2011
7:21 pm

4 points for Collins. That’s like 12 points from Marvin.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:22 pm

No apparent difference in LD’s rotation so far. Jamal and Mo are the first two off the bench. A little surprising, I guess, to see Mo come in ahead of Marvin.

Tremaine

February 12th, 2011
7:23 pm

Good thing the bobcats are playing like crap.

TrainWreck

February 12th, 2011
7:23 pm

yo, LD said he wont make any Lineup changes until Al comes back… dont you follow the Hawks??

lewis

February 12th, 2011
7:24 pm

that is stupid that mo gets in over marin you’ve gotta be kidding me

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:24 pm

How many times this year have the Hawks gotten into the penalty this early in a quarter? The way they refuse to draw fouls, this has to be some sort of record.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:24 pm

Najeh,

I dont expect much of a change from LD although this is the game to experiment.

northcyde

February 12th, 2011
7:24 pm

Maybe Marvin is in the “doghouse”.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:27 pm

Another good post move from Smoove, this time against Najera.

bigdave

February 12th, 2011
7:27 pm

sick move from Josh

ATL FAN

February 12th, 2011
7:27 pm

lol @ TrainWreck he is back

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:27 pm

And Mo is in first because he replaced JJ at SG. Marvin will replace Josh at SF when he comes in, but right now Josh is still in the game…

Tremaine

February 12th, 2011
7:27 pm

Joe Johnson should be in the doghouse for scoring 6 points last game. FOLLOW YOUR SHOT JOE!

northcyde

February 12th, 2011
7:28 pm

Josh has the jumper going. Monster quarter from him so far both scoring and rebounding.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:28 pm

Ok. Disregard that post. JJ is still in the game…

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:29 pm

Hawks are getting anything they want inside. Even Zaza is scoring down low.

ATL FAN

February 12th, 2011
7:29 pm

Mo replaced Al OBrien

bigdave

February 12th, 2011
7:29 pm

keyboardist with the GUY throwback joint..

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:30 pm

Nique points out that the Hawks should be up by more considering how bad the Bobcats have been shooting. Hasn’t that pretty much been the case all year? Seems like this is the story every time the Hawks play against a struggling opponent.

northcyde

February 12th, 2011
7:31 pm

Yeah bench. Let the back in the game.

And I hate when Smith ducks and run under the shooter. Stop doing that.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:31 pm

If I’m remembering right, the Bobcats went over the foul limit with 6 minutes left, and from that point on the Hawks have not been to the line even once.

ATL FAN

February 12th, 2011
7:32 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:32 pm

I love that commercial with the voice over talking about the Hawks being “in the NBA’s elite”. I can just imagine Rick Sund coming up with the script for that commercial.

Ken Sugiura

February 12th, 2011
7:34 pm

i would agree with dominique. now up 3, and 2.

Flea

February 12th, 2011
7:34 pm

I was watching the Orlando Magic series last year and although Dwigiht killed us it was the perimeter players killing us. I.E. Redick, Lewis, Pietrus, and especially Carter. Wing players kill us and our overall TEAM defense is suspect. How about in the first round with Brandon Jennings and company shooting threes lighting it up. We need better personnel. Here is looking at you Marvin, Mo, Jamal.

northcyde

February 12th, 2011
7:36 pm

Maybe the lineup change is to not play Teague AT ALL.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:36 pm

The second unit is just clueless defensively.

Flea

February 12th, 2011
7:37 pm

Teague is a another Acie Law/Dion Glover/Salim Stoudemire. At least Salim could shoot

The Mighty Mo

February 12th, 2011
7:38 pm

Al hasn’t even taken a single shot in this game yet. Wow.

O'Brien

February 12th, 2011
7:38 pm

All our starters have a + rating. All our bench playes have a – rating…

Meanwhile, Jamal is 0-2 in 6 minutes, so LD better keep an eye on him…

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:39 pm

“Al hasn’t even taken a single shot in this game yet. Wow.”

Al has passed up at least two or three opportunities where he could have taken the mid range shot or driven the ball. The Hawks should run more plays for him, but he should also be more aggressive.

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:40 pm

Nice airball Jamal.

ATL FAN

February 12th, 2011
7:40 pm

Al wasn’t even sure if he was going to play today, he’s obviously still recovering, chill out people

Najeh Davenpoop

February 12th, 2011
7:41 pm

There we go Al. Stay aggressive.

Dude looked like he was wincing a little on his way back down the court though.

Ken Sugiura

February 12th, 2011
7:41 pm

hawks apparently don’t have a ton of respect for najera’s defensive ability. (perhaps with reason)