Sixers at Atlanta Hawks: No Horford, no gimme vs. ‘dangerous team’
Before the Hawks played the Knicks a couple weekends back, L.D. put 7-2 out there as the record to shoot for before the All-Star break. So I told him the Hawks had to win three of their next four to get it.
“We want 8-1,” he said, smiling.
This game might have looked like a gimme at one point but not anymore. For one thing, Al is sitting out another game with the bruised back. Zaza is starting in his place.
L.D. said Al ended up deciding his back was better off not taking a pounding. Plus, the Hawks don’t play again until Saturday.
“I actually gave it some thought this morning even before he made his decision,” L.D. said. “Certainly I want him out there but if there is any kind of inkling about him having any kind of discomfort or concern about [if] his back can take the pounding it just makes more sense to keep him out. He gets another four days for treatment and rest.”
So playing without their All-Star center complicates things for the Hawks. Also, don’t forget the Hawks were down 18 to Philly before rallying for a W on Dec. 3.
“I still don’t know how we won that game,” Jamal said.
In the first meeting, Philly jumped out to an 11-2 lead and the Hawks had to hold off a late rally. Al had 20 and 12 in that one.
“It seems like we are always behind when we play them,” J.J. said. “We have to come out with the mindset to get off to a good start, especially against their bigs.”
The Sixers lost to New York Sunday after bearing the Knicks on Friday. They are 6-4 in their last 10 with Ws against Denver and Utah.
“They are a very, very dangerous team because they never feel or play like they are out of the game even if they are down,” L.D. said. “They have had some very quality wins. They play hard; they keep coming. They play with a blue-collar mentality of outworking you and grinding it out. . . . You can’t look at their record, where they stand in the standings. You have got to look at who that team is, and the kind of personality they have.”
The other side
Sixers coach Doug Collins on the Hawks without Al: “He’s an All-Star center. When you come in with Pachulia off the bench he gives you such energy and toughness. I have known they have been starting Jason, so I don’t know if they will start him or come in with Paculia. It changes it a little bit; they play big a lot. They will play Hoford as a power forward, they can go with Pachulia, they can go with Josh Smith as a three. They have a lot of flexibility. With [Horford] not out there they will definitely miss him but they have a lot of big guys.”
Collins on J.J. vs. Jodie Meeks: “I don’t know that Jodie can play him. We might have to have a little cross-matching. This might be a game where I have to sub early, just because their wings are so big. This ream reminds me of Charlotte with how big the wings are and they post them up. [The Hawks] are a better shooting team, and with their 3-point shooters it makes it harder to guard the post.”
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hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:03 pm
1
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:09 pm
glad al’s not playing
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:10 pm
Josh Smith to replace Al Horford in the all star
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:11 pm
At least it sounds like they are taking the Sixers seriously. They should. That team is playing a lot better. Hopefully their words translate into actions, and hopefully Zaza will defy the odds and play another decent game.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:12 pm
The Sixers are already working hard and denying the Hawks their passing lanes and post position.
And Bibby already bricks a 3.
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:13 pm
bibby still starting?
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:14 pm
lmaoooo@zaza just horrible
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:14 pm
6′11″ Zaza gets his shot blocked by 6′3″ Jrue Holiday.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:14 pm
Wow, bibby looks REALLLY BAD tonight
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:14 pm
how do you get blocked by a pg
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:15 pm
This game doesnt bode well for us at alal
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:15 pm
hes like strugging to run, he honestly looks like me out there and i’m 5′11 230
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:16 pm
I can understand why the Hawks went with Zaza over Collins in this one, though. Hawes is a good outside shooter, and Collins probably wouldn’t feel comfortable stepping out on him.
Down the stretch, I’d rather see the Hawks go small with Marvin and Smoove at PF and C.
One foul on Smoove already. The Sixers are working hard.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:16 pm
we’re garbage without Josh defensively, but we’re garbage without Al offensively
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:17 pm
Jamal/JJ/Damien/Marvin/Josh – make it happen right now LD or it’ll get ugly quick.
Rev in Tampa
February 8th, 2011
7:18 pm
I wish Al were playing. Hawks are only 1.5 games back of the Bulls and 1.5 in front of the Magic. At least keep Al on the bench if needed. He can skip the All-Star game to get the needed rest.
coolio
February 8th, 2011
7:19 pm
zaza suckssssssssssssss
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:19 pm
Bibby takes so long to go around the screen that he can’t even put a hand up against Jrue Holiday, who makes the open shot.
man man
February 8th, 2011
7:20 pm
thank you bibby
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:20 pm
Joe needs to settle down. He has had two good looks in the post and missed both of them. Those are shots he has to make in this game.
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:21 pm
man please bench zaza
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:21 pm
“we’re garbage without Josh defensively, but we’re garbage without Al offensively”
Co-sign.
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:22 pm
long night
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:22 pm
Haahahahaahahahahahahahahaha
man man
February 8th, 2011
7:22 pm
embarrasing
coolio
February 8th, 2011
7:23 pm
sport center not top ten
cp
February 8th, 2011
7:24 pm
smh Bibby. Its just frustrating watching him attempt to play defense
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:24 pm
TYPICAL MARVIN
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:24 pm
Sixers already going zone, and Hawks already confused.
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:25 pm
brand lucky
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:25 pm
Hawks look awful in this 1st qtr…
J.J.M
February 8th, 2011
7:26 pm
man im turning from this crap
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:26 pm
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dakid
February 8th, 2011
7:27 pm
we got two 7 footers on the bench and josh playing center.smh
cp
February 8th, 2011
7:27 pm
Hawks with absolutely no energy at all smdh
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:27 pm
I think it’s safe to say that Teague cannot possibly make this situation worse.
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:28 pm
CRAP
Grim
February 8th, 2011
7:28 pm
but joe is worth 120 million.wow.GoSH he act like he can’t score.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
7:29 pm
Nice first quarter, and at home, yet.
Ugh.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:29 pm
hopefully jamal can score those points he just gave up
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
7:29 pm
“It seems like we are always behind when we play them,” J.J. said. “We have to come out with the mindset to get off to a good start, especially against their bigs.”
Way to do the exact OPPOSITE of what you guys game planned for…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:30 pm
To be honest, it doesn’t seem like the Hawks’ half court defense has been that bad. The Sixers have had a ton of fast break opportunities thanks to the 5 turnovers and many bricked jumpers in this quarter for the Hawks.
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
7:31 pm
Wtf I turn it on and I see the score?? Whats happened???
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:31 pm
“Nice first quarter, and at home, yet.”
Do you get the feeling that this team is actually a better road team this year? Somehow I do. It seems like they have had a lot of games at home, especially recently, when they have played sluggish like this and either squeaked out a win they may not have deserved or lost a game they could have won with more energy.
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
7:32 pm
way to go teague… our future PG right there….
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:33 pm
I thought the motion offense was supposed to cure these low quarters? We will be luck to score 15. And to think, we have been off for a couple days.
Meanwhile, bad play by teague. 6 turnovers for the Hawks already.
Hawks were down 18 to the Sixers last game before rallying to win. Do they have another rally in them without Horford?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:33 pm
Only three Hawks have scored. The Hawks’ role players are doing diddly poo offensively.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
7:33 pm
*yawn*
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:33 pm
did the game start yet?
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
7:35 pm
Why didn’t Teague call for the damn ball??? Josh almost cost us a turnover because Teague is playing like a baby boy out there DAMN!
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:36 pm
this is really bad man i’ve seen every game this year and i don’t know if i’ll be able to make it through this one
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:36 pm
Jodie Meeks was picked 41st in the second round of the 2009 draft. Our 49th pick? Sergiy Gladyr.
I hope Sergiy pays off for us down the road.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:36 pm
7 turnovers in that quarter. That is just insane.
If the Sixers continue to play this small lineup, the Hawks have to get Joe the ball down low and let him go to work. More importantly, Joe has to actually convert those opportunities.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
7:36 pm
And they wonder why they dont get respect.
Grim
February 8th, 2011
7:37 pm
What about the hawks leaders because josh has been solid on both sides of the floor,joe johnson ain’t doin ish brah
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
7:37 pm
Hawks against a decent team without Al equals blowout every time. NO all over again
terrell
February 8th, 2011
7:37 pm
At least we got our 4th quarter over with in the 1st.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:37 pm
“We gotta pick our energy up” -Bob Bender
Y’all gotta pick your everything up, dude.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:38 pm
Good box out by Teague…
Tedo
February 8th, 2011
7:38 pm
Sc ore 50 jamal
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:38 pm
Good defense by Teague…
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:39 pm
Oh Oh. Our assistant coach mentioned the “E” words. Energy, and effort.
And he mentioned attacking the rim. This team hardly attacks the rim…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:39 pm
Smoove has done a pretty good job on D in the half court. Too bad what seems like half of the Sixers’ points have come in transition.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:39 pm
Jamal! What kind of shot is that?
And there goes Jodie Meeks again. How come our second round picks havent worked out yet?
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
7:39 pm
good hustle to start it off
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:40 pm
Jamal will not pass on those pick and rolls…
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:40 pm
Teague has to take that shot. That’s a shot that Bibby takes…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:40 pm
Defensively, Teague has done a decent job. Offensively, he has given the Hawks absolutely nothing.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:41 pm
No Fight in these Hawks tonight.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:41 pm
Seriously, what is Josh complaining about on that call?
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
7:42 pm
Ya’ll don’t want to play with any energy at home? This is what you get.
With your sorry asses…
hawks_4_life
February 8th, 2011
7:42 pm
ITS 142 AM HERE…I THINK IM GOING TO PACK IT IN SOON
lewis
February 8th, 2011
7:42 pm
The hawks are quite feminine without Al
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:42 pm
Najeh,
Right on cue, Teague with the And One…
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:42 pm
Why is Bibby heading to the scorers table? Leave Teague in.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
7:43 pm
Better cut it to 10 before halftime.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:43 pm
I yelled “Drive the ball!” at my TV when Teague got the ball. Finally he heard me.
With Smoove off the floor, the Hawks basically have no big presence in the game. If they are going to rally, they have to do it with perimeter D and transition opportunities of their own, and posting up Joe in the half court. I don’t get why they haven’t gone to Joe in the post more. None of these Sixers guards can guard him.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:44 pm
Do the Hawks not realize that they are 2 games behind the Bulls (in the loss column) for the #3 seed? It is there for the taking.
But these kind of games will not cut it.
Rufus1,
This is why I dont know what to expect from the Hawks in the playoffs…
Tim
February 8th, 2011
7:44 pm
Where you at hawks4life?
Ron
February 8th, 2011
7:44 pm
Strange lineup on the floor right now. Marvin is playing center. I don’t feel very comfortable with that. I’m surprised that Collins hasn’t entered the game yet.
man man
February 8th, 2011
7:44 pm
put a big body on the court please man damn Larry Drew act stupid.They killling us in rebounding as it is.they don’t have a big body out there so that means we could get some rebounds.Wheres Kurt Thomas when you need him?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:46 pm
EVERY rebound is a transition opportunity for the Sixers. They are completely neutralizing the advantage the Hawks would have had defending in the half court.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:46 pm
Jamal has 5 shots in 10 minutes. he will get his money’s worth.
Teague is out there with the starters, so he needs to make it count.
Good move by Marvin
ag
February 8th, 2011
7:46 pm
At work so cannot watch game, but this is why we don’t get respect. Then Teague takes it to the hole and one… Bibby at scorer’s table?????? This is why this kid cannot be consistant. They are getting blown out the building. Let him play!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:47 pm
Turnover #3 on Joe.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:47 pm
Who is Bibby going to guard?
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:48 pm
I like the insertion of JC2 in the game.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
7:48 pm
Najeh,
That’s certainly worthy of discussion.
Damn, a JC2 sighting.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:49 pm
Joe is giving the Hawks nothing. Can’t win without one of your best players if another one of your best players is having an awful game.
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
7:49 pm
pathetic
cp
February 8th, 2011
7:50 pm
Should have just left Teague in the game at this point
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:50 pm
Iggy is giving Joe fits on both sides of the ball…
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
7:50 pm
hawks wont get past the 1st round this year
man man
February 8th, 2011
7:50 pm
thank u for saying that Najeh Davenpoop
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:50 pm
CP,
Exactly. As soon as Teague goes out, Lou attack Bibby of the dribble..
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
7:51 pm
No pride, no heart having soft jump shooting team. D Wade misses zero games with a bad fall and Al misses a whole week. What a wack ass team
ag
February 8th, 2011
7:51 pm
down 25 at home to the Sixers. Josh -27. He has one rebound. He is not in the game. Put Powell in. Teague -5, Bibby -12…. but Teague on pine.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:52 pm
Lou Williams was taken with the 45th pick in 2005. At 31st, we took Salim.
I thought Salim would be the player Lou Williams is. Boy, was (the Hawks) and I wrong.
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
7:52 pm
man Pathetic effort
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:53 pm
The inability to dribble penetrate for the Hawks as a team is really incredible. After Teague and the two Crawfords, I’d go as far as to say Horford is the 4th best Hawk when it comes to dribble penetration, and he’s the f-cking center.
ag
February 8th, 2011
7:53 pm
superblogman, you must not have seen Al fall….He should sit at least a week. Marvin sat out a month.
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
@superiorblogman
Wade gets hurt every 5 seconds and has missed more games than Al Horford.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
I liket that Jordan is attacking the basket and not settling for the jumpshot…
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
STOP GOING UNDER THE DAMN SCREENS COME ONNNNNNNNN
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
man we are NOTHING without Al Horford
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
“I thought Salim would be the player Lou Williams is. Boy, was (the Hawks) and I wrong.”
I never really thought Salim had the range of skills necessary to make it in the NBA. But I’d be willing to bet that Lou Williams has played more minutes in his career than the last 15 Hawks second round picks combined.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:54 pm
Hawks cant buy a basket…
Lionhearted
February 8th, 2011
7:55 pm
U can’t be serious
Announcer
February 8th, 2011
7:55 pm
Saliiiiiiiiiim Stoudamiiiiiiiiireeeeee foooooooorrrr THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!
ag
February 8th, 2011
7:55 pm
no heart to being blown out. They are a team that gets plastered and just do not care. It is embarrasing!
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:55 pm
Meanwhile, after Bibby came back in the game, the Sixers extend the lead from 19 to 27.
cp
February 8th, 2011
7:55 pm
Bibby is getting abused defensively yet LD is sticking with him smdh. Take him out LD
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:56 pm
I sure Joe is glad to see Iggy on the bench..
terrell
February 8th, 2011
7:56 pm
The Hawks need more road games.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:56 pm
To clarify, when I say “make it in the NBA” I mean “make it at Lou Williams’ level”. I thought he could be an Eddie House-type player, but Lou Williams is a lot more than just that.
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
7:57 pm
and back to backs
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
7:57 pm
ZaZa was/is useless….
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
7:58 pm
Going to need a big second half if we want any chance at this one…
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
7:58 pm
Hawks lost by 41 to N.O., at home.
And now we are down 27 to the sixers. At home.
What will be the excuse this time? Can Rick really wait until th eplayoffs to see what the Hawks can do?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
7:59 pm
Probably the best defensive sequence for Powell all year.
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
7:59 pm
How can anyone say with a strait face that Josh Smith is a all-star? How can anyone say with a strait face that this team is better than last year? We did not have two 30 pt losses all last year during the regular season and we will already have two after tonight. How can anyone say that Al is not our most important player? We did not get beat like this when Joe was out.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:00 pm
Get Pape Sy on a chartered jet here from Utah and see if he can make it in time to suit up for the second half. Might as well.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:00 pm
I love watching 120 million dollars just strut up and down the court like the game just started. NO urgency a bunch of turnovers and horrible plays.
He doesnt anything to motivate anyone else, just lets this team fend for itself.
This is what Atlanta fans accept for 120 million dollars.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:01 pm
O’B,
He likes our core. As long as Mikey likes it, that is.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:02 pm
Joe and Jamal have given the Hawks NOTHING in this game.
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
8:02 pm
@ superior we got beat like this against New Orleans and Al was in, this HUGE deficit has little to do with Al
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:03 pm
All we can hope for now is that Orlando and Miami both drop their games as well…
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 8th, 2011
8:03 pm
WHAT THE HECK!?! I just turned on leaguepass to find this lopsided score. I know the Sixers are hot but not that hot. dag
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:03 pm
Did Nique just say “Ooguodala”?
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:03 pm
@superblogman – can you really say that Joke Johnson is worth 120 million dollars?
How many times has Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Carmelo Dwight allowed their teams to be losing by 27 points at home to a team with a losing record.
How you people defend this dude. He isnt working harder than any other person on the court. And thats a major problem
Dept. of Unintended Irony
February 8th, 2011
8:04 pm
“How can anyone say with a strait face that Josh Smith is a all-star?”
How can anyone with a their face in a strait even talk?
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:05 pm
Marvin is probably the player of the game for the hawks so far.
JJ has 4 turnovers to go with 6 points, and he even missed a couple shots he usually makes.
Section 303,
Are you wearing your JJ jersey tonight? maybe you junxed him
cp
February 8th, 2011
8:05 pm
Its absolutely disgusting watching a Bibby and Jamal backcourt trying to play defense. The Hawks are getting smoked on the perimeter and LD’s answer to that problem is to play arguably our worst two perimeter defenders. SMDH
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 8th, 2011
8:05 pm
why do we always have the stinkers at Phillips – way to kill the vibe
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:05 pm
“we got beat like this against New Orleans and Al was in, this HUGE deficit has little to do with Al”
Al was out against New Orleans, too. But I agree on the other point. No one player accounts for this big of a deficit. This is a total team effort. Of the Hawks’ four best players, Smoove is the only one who showed up today, and even he has only played well in spurts, not consistently.
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
8:06 pm
These are the 76ers FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:06 pm
“Are you wearing your JJ jersey tonight? maybe you junxed him”
The real jinx is Jeff Schultz live blogging this game.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:06 pm
“@superblogman – can you really say that Joke Johnson is worth 120 million dollars?
How many times has Kobe, Lebron, Durant, Carmelo Dwight allowed their teams to be losing by 27 points at home to a team with a losing record.
How you people defend this dude. He isnt working harder than any other person on the court. And thats a major problem”
When things get low the doubters emerge.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:06 pm
65 points in a half. Out rebounded 28-11.
Ouch.
drmaryb (*_*)
February 8th, 2011
8:07 pm
Respect is Suspect!
Down by 32? I’m on the radio, just pulled the the Porsche 944 into the garage to go and watch a Camry roll by? OMG!
What happened? Aye Sund! Fix YOUR Team, The Knicks are mulling to get Aaron Brooks, but Houston isn’t interested in what they got! What you got Sund?
Nobody on this team should be untouchable, except:
Al
Josh
Joe
Make a trade – Now! Fool!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:07 pm
Considering the opponent and the first half quality of play, I’d say this game is worse than the New Orleans game so far.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:08 pm
“Nobody on this team should be untouchable, except:
Al
Josh
Joe”
They shouldn’t be untouchable either, although each of them should only be traded if the Hawks receive someone better. Let’s not get it twisted; there is no LeBron or Kobe on this team that can’t be upgraded.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:09 pm
Come on LD if Tom Thibodeau can get Kyle Korver and Carlos Boozer to play D, then you tell Jamal and Bibby to get their act together!
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:09 pm
Sautee,
Of those 11 rebounds, marvin has 5.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:10 pm
Bibby; 13 mins, 5 points, 1 assist, 1 reb, +/1 of -17
Teague: 6 mins, 4 points, 1 steal, 1 rebound, +/- of -5.
Since we are down 32, why not give Teague extended minutes with the starters, and see if he shows anything positive?
2 FOR JOHN DREW
February 8th, 2011
8:10 pm
I love you HAWKS ……. but y’all are totally sucking right now !!!!!!!!!
No energy ….No offense …. No defense …… No nothing !!!!!!!
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:10 pm
At least we get to hear some cliches after the game.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:11 pm
@Jae Evolution – im a regular here trying to help you folks keep how good this team really is in perspective.
When you beat a bad team im here and when you lose to a good team im here too.
ive never seen you here.
Gerald
February 8th, 2011
8:11 pm
I don’t care what anyone says, this team is a lot different without Al, and against good teams they really struggle without him. Washington is not a great team on either end of the floor, so we were able to get away with playing perimeter-oriented and doing whatever we wanted to win that one, but against teams that are actually playing well, this team looks awful without Al. Maybe we would still be down in this one even if Al plays, but he makes a huge difference on both ends of the floor. I have a tough time believing we’d be down by this much or outrebounded by this much if Al was on the court. I hope he gets back soon because he’s the heart and soul of this team. He’s the team’s real leader and MVP.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:12 pm
At least it’s just 1 UGLY game.
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
8:13 pm
I bet the guys on SportsCenter will have fun with this one tonight. They are gonna make a reference to Larry Drew’s son and relate it to the Hawks tonight. I sad it when he was hired that it was all about the cash and he should have never been hired. The offense looks like shi everytime they are not making shots because the offense really does not create anything other than jumpshots
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
8:13 pm
Sund…..make some calls…
Biby should be cut after the season….that boy went from doing his thing to flat out terrible in like 2 weeks.
I don’t understand why this team doesn’t want to play defense. Baffling….and the turnovers are just amateur…..we might as well trot the D-League team out there
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:13 pm
Can we beat Philly in a 7 game series is the ? After watching this, I’m not so sure.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:14 pm
Although this game is not officially over but how many serious title contending teams have these type of losses during a season? I think this will be the 4th or 5th lost (Celtics, Hornets, and Pistons) of this magnitude by the Hawks…
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:15 pm
“Can we beat Philly in a 7 game series is the ? After watching this, I’m not so sure.”
Yeah they can. Playoffs are a different ball game. Joe and Jamal will show up then. I don’t know if it makes it any better that neither one showed up for this game, though.
LeFraud
February 8th, 2011
8:15 pm
Hey, on the bright side, that second quarter was an improvement for us. We lost the first quarter 33-15, but the second we only lost 32-18. That’s some progress…lol. As bad as some of the players are playing right now, I have to put some of this blame so far on L.D. Why in the world would he try to play 5 guards at once? Seriously, if you are getting outrebounded badly already, it is only going to get worse when you ask your small forward (Marvin Williams) to play center, and your undersized backup SF (Mo Evans) to play PF. Come on, Drew. Get it together. In games like this, I really don’t understand why some guys get a DNP-CD. Collins and Zaza could have helped a bit on the glass.
Leo
February 8th, 2011
8:16 pm
Atlanta will win this game. To get this kinda of whippin twice on their own floor is awful. We need a point guard and a real veteran leader. Someone to hold these kids accountable.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:16 pm
120 million dollars has no free throws in a game where his team is getting demoralized.
Atlanta fans accept this.
120 million dollars has 4 turnovers and 6 points, no leadership, no intensity.
Atlanta fans accept this.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:16 pm
Energy and intensity, somebody that wants to come out and compete. That’s what the Hawks need.
cp
February 8th, 2011
8:16 pm
@O’Brien the problem with that is that LD favors shot makers. Bibby was being abused out there the first half and Teague came in and played well yet LD went right back to Bibby because it seems LD prefers offense over defense. So I wouldn’t be shocked to see Bibby still play more than Teague although Bibby was being beat into a coma out there defensively.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:17 pm
“@Jae Evolution – im a regular here trying to help you folks keep how good this team really is in perspective.
When you beat a bad team im here and when you lose to a good team im here too.
ive never seen you here.”
That’s funny because the last time I remember seeing your name was at the New Orleans loss, chiming in about how we’ll never be elite, and taking a look at your name, your both a doubter and a hater.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 8th, 2011
8:17 pm
One ugly game too many terrell.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:19 pm
@ Najeh – how can you use the term “show up” when describing Joke Johnsons play in the 3 previous playoff years.
The man has no heart, cant motivate himself let alone his teammates.
If the team starts losing, they are not gonna make a comeback because of Joke Johnson. No one can disagree with that (though im sure some of you would try)
LeFraud
February 8th, 2011
8:19 pm
You can’t really use this game as an accurate gauge for how the Hawks would fare against the Sixers in a series, since the Hawks are without their All-Star big man, and arguably their best player. If they play this way against any good team in the playoffs though, they will get swept in that series.
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
8:20 pm
ATL FAN
February 8th, 2011
8:02 pm
@ superior we got beat like this against New Orleans and Al was in, this HUGE deficit has little to do with Al
STFU, Al did not play that game
2 FOR JOHN DREW
February 8th, 2011
8:21 pm
@ drMaryb ……. BIG AL needs you !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Freshfromatl
February 8th, 2011
8:21 pm
Lmao…How the hell???
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:23 pm
@ Jae Evolution – Ive never seen you ever. and though i post alot I dont recall posting on the Hornets loss though it may just be my memory failing me.
Also, I was a huge Hawks fan. Went to plenty of games and supported Joke Johnson to all people who said he was never gonna be a great player.
Then he was the leader of the team that set a record for futility in the playoffs when he should be playing his best and hardest. Then told the fans on national television that he could care less if we showed up to support because the team was being justifiably booed for stinking up their home court in the playoffs.
Then he never apologized or even recanted his statement and Rick Sund got on his knees to give him the richest contract in NBA history and a lil something extra.
And people like you support the man even though he spit in your face and got paid extra for it.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:24 pm
Is LD going to tell Josh to drive…or something.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:24 pm
And they wonder why we wont spend our hard earned $ on tickets. At least we can turn the TV.
northcyde
February 8th, 2011
8:25 pm
Arguably the worst half of basketball in ATL history
Defense is non existant
JJ is a turnover machine and lifeless
Smith playing halfway decent, but not rebounding at all
Bibby looks like a YMCA point guard
Zaza looks like a middle school backup girls center
Teague is Teague, which isn’t saying much
Jordan comes in gunning like he’s
Jamal may as well be a ghost
Damien has had no defensive imact on the game whatsoever
Collins and Sy are like “might as well put us in coach”
Lack of dribble penetration and low post scoring prevents the Hawks from getting easier buckets, especially when you don’t create anything offensively in transition, by playing good defense.
And if the starters can’t significantly cut this lead down, this decifit could quickly balloon to 40 – 50 points, because of the lack of quality bench players.
JJ, Jamal, and Smith are going to have to go for 40 points in this half alone, to keep us from losing by more than 20. But the only way that will happen, is if they cut the decifit down immediately.
LOL . . what a travesty of a 1st half.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:25 pm
Marvin showing some grit.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:26 pm
Bob Rathburn is letting the Hawks have it….
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:27 pm
The Sixers are playing nowhere near as well now as they did in the first half, but the Hawks are playing just as badly as they did in the first half.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:27 pm
“@ Jae Evolution – Ive never seen you ever. and though i post alot I dont recall posting on the Hornets loss though it may just be my memory failing me.
Also, I was a huge Hawks fan. Went to plenty of games and supported Joke Johnson to all people who said he was never gonna be a great player.
Then he was the leader of the team that set a record for futility in the playoffs when he should be playing his best and hardest. Then told the fans on national television that he could care less if we showed up to support because the team was being justifiably booed for stinking up their home court in the playoffs.
Then he never apologized or even recanted his statement and Rick Sund got on his knees to give him the richest contract in NBA history and a lil something extra.
And people like you support the man even though he spit in your face and got paid extra for it.”
I support him because he is one of the best players in the NBA, and while you sit here and criticize him on his play tonight, again, I’ve never seen you when he was putting up big time numbers in all of January.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:27 pm
Bibby 1-4 from 3. And he isnt stopping anybody on defense either.
meanwhile, Josh with 2 bad shots to start the quarter.
My issue with LD is in a game like this where the team is struggling, and Bibby is struggling, why not use it as a teaching opportunity for teague?
He will not be the reason why we lose, because everybody is sucking anyway.
meanwhile, 3rd foul on Bibby.
Props to Marvin though
F Gump
February 8th, 2011
8:27 pm
Mama always said being a Hawks fan was like a box of chocolates….
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:27 pm
I bet Woody is laughing his azz off.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:29 pm
And 5 turnovers for JJ.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:31 pm
Does Marvin have to play the 76ers by himself?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:31 pm
Nique says “Ooguodala” again.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
February 8th, 2011
8:33 pm
Marvin putting in work in the 3rd but not quite enough – defense sucks. Smoove airballs, Bibby sux. This dead horse has been beaten long enough.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
8:35 pm
Mike Bibby is done, over, zero, cannot contribute anything anymore. He literally could not get the ball over the half-court when they were pressing. That is so so sad.
“We like our Core”
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:35 pm
But Mikey likes our core.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:35 pm
@Jae Evolution – are you kidding me, you mention the “big time numbers” in January when the Hawks went 9-4 and 7 of those wins came against horrible teams with sub .500 records.
Only a prideless man like yourself who would let a man say what he said to you and still call him a “great player” would consider those statistics great.
Im gonna pray that you develope some self worth at some point in your life. Every person in Atlanta should have a problem with Joke Johnson, maybe not to the same degree, but he clearly cares nothing about you and you Jae Evolution are in love with the man. Shameful!
LeFraud
February 8th, 2011
8:35 pm
At least Marvin is trying. He looks like the only Hawks on the court who wants to play right now.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:36 pm
Since the game is out of hand, and the team does not play until Saturday, why not play Teague the rest of the game?
Bibby is struggling (1-4 from 3), and his defense (or lack of) is being abused. So its not like Teague can do any worse.
As a matter of fact, I would empty the bench.
Teague/Jordan/Damien/Powell/ZaZa. let the starters sit on the bench and sulk. Send them a message.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:36 pm
Meanwhile, Josh doesnt want to take another foul, so he steps out of the way, giving up the easy shot.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:37 pm
MC just wrote an article asking if Bibby is beat down from playing the lst half of the season. Why would LD give him extended mins tonight in a blow out game. Down 30pts in the 4th qtr, put Teague in the game
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:37 pm
O’B,
Making them play in this game may be a better punishment.
It was not a bad pick
February 8th, 2011
8:38 pm
smh..When will the Hawks unleash the beast that Marvin has become..
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:38 pm
Mo Evans is not the defender he use to be…
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:40 pm
Wow.
LD has Jordan playing PG…
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:41 pm
It took Josh 2-1/2 qtrs to figure out that he would have more success if he drive the ball to the basket. Especailly against Brand…
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:42 pm
Marvin has tried hard tonight, but a +/- of -24 is hardly “beastly”, LOL.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:45 pm
Marvin has done a good job attacking the boards tonight. Besides that, he’s been just as useless as everyone else.
HawksGoingBackward
February 8th, 2011
8:46 pm
120 million dollars = 6 points, 5 turnovers, 0 rebounds, 1 assist, 0 free throws.
LMFAO.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:46 pm
The Hawks are… not very good at playing zone.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:46 pm
“@Jae Evolution – are you kidding me, you mention the “big time numbers” in January when the Hawks went 9-4 and 7 of those wins came against horrible teams with sub .500 records.
Only a prideless man like yourself who would let a man say what he said to you and still call him a “great player” would consider those statistics great.
Im gonna pray that you develope some self worth at some point in your life. Every person in Atlanta should have a problem with Joke Johnson, maybe not to the same degree, but he clearly cares nothing about you and you Jae Evolution are in love with the man. Shameful!”
Haha, wooow, calm down bro, we’re talking about basketball here. You obviously have some personal grudge against what JJ said, looks like you need counseling or something.
Don’t worry when the Hawks or JJ are playing bad I’ll look for your name, since you seem to rise out of no where when either of those things happen.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:46 pm
That play by Jordan is what LD wants to see from Teague.
Get the ball, and push it.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:48 pm
I believe this now makes the Hawks 5-8 with two or more days of rest and 11-4 on the back end of back to backs. One of those nimbers may be off, but the Hawks’ inexplicable inability to play well with more rest continues.
LeFraud
February 8th, 2011
8:48 pm
3-8 shooting for the most overpaid player in the league and 6-14 for J-Brick. 3-8 shooting for the “sixth man of the year”. None of the big guns showed up tonight while Al was out. Marvin is only guy who played with any intensity. I hope that the Magic at least lose to the Clippers so that this loss doesn’t hurt us as much in the standings.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:48 pm
Teague has to make that floater more consistently though…
It was not a bad pick
February 8th, 2011
8:49 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
“Marvin has done a good job attacking the boards tonight. Besides that, he’s been just as useless as everyone else.”
your head coach makes Marvin useless…We are talking about top 10 sf talent…Time to use him!
I MUS WRITE
February 8th, 2011
8:49 pm
Dam maybe we should have signed Doug Collins……. The effort was disgusting tonight, shots wont fall every night but atleast play hard. O Yeah teague is a bag of hot garbage in 100 degree heat-putrid is what im say;n…………….
Joe Johnson's Contract
February 8th, 2011
8:51 pm
“120 million dollars = 6 points, 5 turnovers”
so tonight he’s making 20 million per point, or 24 million per turnover
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:51 pm
JC2 is one reason why I think Rick and the ASG will let Jamal go. In time, JC2 can develop into a poor man’s Jamal, and he will cost the Hawks alot less.
Paradise Lost
February 8th, 2011
8:52 pm
I respectfully request that all references to playing like girls cease as I do not recall the Atlanta Dream experiencing such a large point deficit last season. If fact, someone should call Marynell and see how fast she can get to Philips.
superiorblogman
February 8th, 2011
8:53 pm
It was not a bad pick
February 8th, 2011
8:49 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
“Marvin has done a good job attacking the boards tonight. Besides that, he’s been just as useless as everyone else.”
your head coach makes Marvin useless…We are talking about top 10 sf talent…Time to use him!
You sound as stupid as the Hawks play. Marvin is on his 2nd coach, it’s not the coaches fault Marvin is borderline useless but Zaza, Teague, and even Bibby are starting to make Marvin look useful, that spells dome for this franchise
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:53 pm
it was not a bad pick,
So are you a Hawks fan or just a Marvin fan?
If you are a Hawks fan, then that would be “our” head coach and not “your” head coach.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
8:53 pm
That low-trajectory Teague jumper has been blocked twice tonight.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
8:53 pm
Why not just let us know to take the night off too, that way we could all get some rest and begin preparing for the next game.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
8:54 pm
Maybe someone can turn our crap into valuable compost?
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
8:55 pm
This isn’t a loss that you blame on energy, nor coaching. This is a personnel blowout! When you have Bibby and Zaza in your starting five, you’re basically playing 3 against 5 on defense, and on offense (actually 2 on 5 on offense- Marvin). The Hawks are no longer a ‘young’ team any more. All of their wings are pushing 30, aside from Marvin, who makes you hold your breathe every time he falls or ‘hustles’. In the back court, you have two players out of your main three who are streaky shooters, and lousy defenders on a good day. Then you turn to your front court, and you only have two players (Josh and Al) who would get any kind of playing time with a top 4 seed team in the playoffs. Zaza on the Heat (a center deprived team) would still be the 4th best center on THAT team, lol. On a GOOD night, the Hawks have 4 players (Joe, Al, Josh, and JC1), and a bunch of misfits. The Hawks supporting cast past the top three are worst than the Heat (who have even lower salaries on the rest of their roster). Haslem, Chalmers, Arroyo, and even Dampier would take the lunch money of our 5-13 players any night.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
8:55 pm
Why is Jordan guarding Lou instead of Teague?
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
8:55 pm
Jordan brings the ball up, while teague stands off to the side. Which is the same thing that happens when Jamal is in the game.
I wonder if that’s LD’s play call.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
8:56 pm
If Marvin is SOOOOOO great, why are we losing by 30 to a team who isn’t good?
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:56 pm
UNACCEPTABLE!
northcyde
February 8th, 2011
8:56 pm
THe only question that is left is if can Teague and Jordan keep us from losing by 40+ points?
Oh . . one more question . . has an “elite” team ever lose TWO home games by 40 points or more in a season?
Yeah Sund.
Jae Evolution
February 8th, 2011
8:58 pm
Why doesn’t Teague run like that everytime man…
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
8:58 pm
I wonder if Mikey is in the building admiring his core?
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
8:58 pm
Northcyde, 1-4 we’re elite. 5-13 we’re D league. May as well call up Pape Sy and let him get some minutes on the big stage.
Lionhearted
February 8th, 2011
8:59 pm
LD should be fired for only playing the young guys after the hawks are destroyed
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
8:59 pm
Najah, maybe your nimbers are wrong, but your point is absolutely right. We’re like an old car. Takes us a while to get running. We’ll probably blow the next team out and complain about respect. Glad I didn’t waste any money heading to town to watch this stinker. It’s painful to watch on TV.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
8:59 pm
Too many days off in the Atl, and it shows.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
8:59 pm
Please refer to the days previous 2 blogs where I stated Elton Brand would take our lunch money
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:00 pm
It makes you wonder though, would having A. Law on the roster be an improvement over our pg situation. The other night while watching Baylor and Texas A&M, the commentators kept bringing up how great Law was in college. And how he could get off a shot in the lane with either hand.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:00 pm
At least the other “Atlanta” players are getting their nimbers tonight!
Wabe
February 8th, 2011
9:00 pm
No Comment
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:01 pm
At least they broke 60 points.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:01 pm
Lewis, I think they stole tomorrow’s money too.
At least AC could bring the ball up. LD won’t even let Teague try that in a blowout. Dude is useless.
drmaryb (*_*)
February 8th, 2011
9:01 pm
Speed Kills!
I just hope the reserves speed the game up and run it on out!
Just show us something positive, from Jordan and Jeff.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:03 pm
Why is Jordan so winded and tired? Dude is almost a teenager?
Lame
February 8th, 2011
9:03 pm
Lame Fundamentals
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:04 pm
The bench is making a run. We may lose by less than 30…
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:04 pm
I don’t get it? Please explain so I have something to look forward to tonight. I’m just disgusted. Sorry if you don’t like it.
yodaddy
February 8th, 2011
9:04 pm
I want to hear the coaching staff absolutely rip this team.
I don’t want to hear “sometimes you have nights like this” because we afforded you your obligatory 2 games where that happens. This loss was a result of lack of effort, lack of focus and basically not giving a damn. This was a bull(junk) performance and they should not even be paid for this. The Hawks need to apologize to the fans and I’m dead serious. After the game in the interview and in the papers….just flat out apologize for making people sit and watch this like we are the cleveland Cavaliers or something. This team has the talent.
Al Horford needs to rip the team in the media. Joe Johnson needs to rip the team in public. I didn’t see a spark from anyone on the team and people need to be benched. I’d trot out the team on the floor right now for the next game before I run the starters again. This game was awful. You’re at home off of sufficient rest and get beat by 30 points???? To the 76ers!!?!?!?! We didn’t even make a run in this game.
Please let a trade be imminent. Bibby the last two weeks has been absolutely horrible….and I supported and defended him up until about 2 weeks ago when the bottom fell out.
northcyde
February 8th, 2011
9:06 pm
Ra’Mon . . I agree.
This is a personnel loss. That’s why I posted those efficiency rankings of each Hawks player at their respective positions about a week ago. Only 3 of our players ( JJ, Horford, Smith ) rank in the top 20 at their position. Marvin and Jamal rank just outside the top 20. Bibby is ranked in the 30s at PG. And the rest of the team is ranked 55 and below at their respective position.
And while we can overcome our weakness at PG, by playing Jamal major minutes, we don’t have that luxury at center. Lose Al or Josh, and the talent level on the frontcourt drops SIGNIFICALLY.
Still doesn’t excuse getting blown out at home like this, but me and you can CLEARLY see what the main issue is.
And to be honest, it’s ALWAYS has been the main issue.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:06 pm
9, 7, and 4 in 14 minutes for Jordan Crawford. I don’t think he’s been quite as good as those nimbers, but he’s been active.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:07 pm
The keyboard guy is playing “Wasted” by Gucci Mane. Sums up this game pretty well.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:07 pm
How can Josh, Marvin or Joe rip the team when they should be ripping themselves.
Al should’ve come out on the court in the 1st few minutes and gotten in some grills. No reason to be down that bad that early. He included, just didn’t care.
Astro Joe
February 8th, 2011
9:08 pm
Our young player development on full display tonight.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:10 pm
We must be demonstrating our lack of development.
Astro Joe
February 8th, 2011
9:10 pm
I’m going to have to use Excel to calculate the margin of defeat tonight.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
9:10 pm
Why does Mo think he’s Ray Allen shooting all those 3pt shots…
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:10 pm
From jeff Schultz;
PA guys tells crowds, “Get out of your seats!” And they are. They’re leaving..
Funny stuff
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
9:11 pm
Will Jordan get 20shot attempts tonight?
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:12 pm
My wife thinks I’m too harsh, too negative and I need to give it a rest. I do support this team, but tonight is a perfect example of how our role players are not ready. They can’t make an impact. When we have a key player out, we tend to crumble. This isn’t the first let down with Al on the bench. Somehow everyone got the memo to take the night off, at home, again.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:13 pm
Same reason Mo thinks he’s the Defensive Player of the Year, Sixth Man and MVP, only his salary doesn’t reflect that.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:13 pm
Fundamentals, three players can not do the job of five players no matter the size of the heart. KG in Minnesota was out matched for years, even though he was arguably the best player in the league. When your starting Center gets blocked by the opposing team’s PG on a fast break, or your starting PG have problems even keeping up with the other PG’s shadow on the perimeter, its not much you can do. Zaza and Bibby would be how much better if they tried harder or hustle more? ….. Not much. For one, I think they’re both giving it their all, and that is the larger problem. They’re giving it their all but still not able to be effective consistently. As I said that goes back to personnel.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:14 pm
still laughing about the PA comment. too funny.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:15 pm
Melvin, earlier I saw an ISO- Mo, and almost broke a rib laughing. When Mo attempts more than 3 crossover on the SAME possession, something is clearly wrong.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:16 pm
PG & C Ra’mon, PG & C. We desperately need them, but you’d honestly try to call this a good effort on either end? I don’t agree. This was a night off for them.
northcyde
February 8th, 2011
9:16 pm
I’m spelling like how ya’ll say Dominique talks
that word should be .. “significantly”
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:16 pm
Now on to LD’s comments
Wabe
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
Like I’ve said a couple of times, I’d rather just lose 50+ games and get a lottery pick and hope we can land a legit stud, because this team really isn’t going anywhere as they are.
Sautee
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
Home losses are like crud.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
root canal w/o novicane was appropriate for the fans maybe, team didn’t notice.
Paradise Lost
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
Um…yay it wasn’t 40????
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
Jordan is another Jamal in the making. Dude went 4-14 (0-3 from behind the arc) in 19 minutes (although he did have 5 assists and 7 rebounds).
Nique's Revenge
February 8th, 2011
9:18 pm
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAA
HAWKS
SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
drmaryb (*_*)
February 8th, 2011
9:19 pm
Velvet Room!
I wonder what this team does with their off days?
Do they, “Do Your Dance … Do Do Do Your Dance!”
@ The Velvet Room? Burn that DVD! Nothing to learn from this game.
______________________
Aye Sund! … you can get up off your knees now, Mikey is satisfied.
(with his core)
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:19 pm
Wabe, then we could draft Priest Lauderdale again to save the day.
JoKe Johnson
February 8th, 2011
9:19 pm
SUP THIS IS JoKe
THANKS for the $250,000 tonight SUCKAS
KEEP THOSE CHECKS COMIN’
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:22 pm
That’s not true, Joe only got just over $195,000 dollars tonight. Sadly I’m not kidding.
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:22 pm
I bet they will say “The Hawks locker room remained closed a little longer than usual”.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
9:23 pm
So who threw the Superbowl party? Bet it was Bibby. They must be still hungover.
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:23 pm
Orlando is going to win and although Miami is down by 7, there is an entire quarter remaining and I have a hard time seeing the Pacers hang on to that lead. Costly loss for the Hawks.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:24 pm
Wonder if Josh went over the top drinking when the Steelers lost? We know how much he loves Wisconsin?
JoKe Johnson
February 8th, 2011
9:25 pm
but I only played 22 minutes SUCKA that gives me $425,454.55 PER HOUR by your numba!!
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:25 pm
All these gimme giveaways will make us pay later. I bet we come in just a couple games out of the seed we need. These games will haunt us. Count on it.
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:25 pm
LMAO at Bibby and his big gapped teeth… Marvin can’t walk straight dude is deformed, Joe is one CRAZY MUTHAFRICKA dude is pumped up like crazy every game and Zaza… LOL!!!
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:26 pm
Normally don’t like hating on Joe, but JoKe is bringing smiles tonight. Good job.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:27 pm
Go to Itunes and search for Atlanta Hawks songs. There are some great hits that fit tonight well.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:28 pm
Guess the delay for LD is due to the post game conference……yes I’m impatient!
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:30 pm
More to laugh at Zaza -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTfOURhyAcA
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:30 pm
Guess Brand proved to Stinger why Philly chose him instead of Josh tonight. Total domination. Here’s LD “We didn’t come ready to play” blah, blah, blah. Meaningless if they just don’t get it.
85Souf
February 8th, 2011
9:30 pm
So True Fundamentals All these gimme giveaways will make us pay later. I bet we come in just a couple games out of the seed we need. These games will haunt us. Count on it.
Just like last year… But we’re not supposed to get blown out, on the giveme games, especially not at home.
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:31 pm
LOL = Pride of Perry on full exhibition.
terrell
February 8th, 2011
9:31 pm
Maybe we shoulda went after Doug Collins? And btw, where’s Ken Strickland tonight?
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:31 pm
Fundamentals, of course I wouldn’t call this a great effort or a good effort. But I wouldn’t call this not expected either. Philadelphia is one of the quickest and athletic teams in the league. Atlanta gets the label as being athletic mainly just because of Josh Smith. Marvin isn’t a super athletic. And Al is quick, but really can’t jump that impressively. Mo Evans is a great defender who the Hawks signed, and I’m still waiting for that guy to come from the press conference with Flip Murray, because I still haven’t seen the guy that was advertised.
Nique's Revenge
February 8th, 2011
9:32 pm
smh @ hawks
and smh @ tv guys. will Atlanta media ever call out players, coaches, owners?
or they all back rub each other on the golf course
oh LD is on let’s listen. “no energy, gotta refocus, no effort etc etc”
maybe mike woodson is texting him what to say? heh
terrell
February 8th, 2011
9:32 pm
Need some inspiration Ken. lol!
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:32 pm
Looking at the post game stats we did lead in one category – turnovers.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
9:34 pm
I think we all had some sobering realizations about this team’s lack of depth tonight.
For the first quarter of the season, all I did was cry about Haha Pachulia’s inability to get a shot up in the NBA at this point in his career without getting blocked (he only had to take 1 shot today to reaffirm this)
But now, what’s really bothering me, and most of the rest of the blog, is Mike Bibby’s decline into being the most ineffective starting point guard in the NBA. He does not score. He does not get to the lane, and when he does, he’s a bad foul shooter. He does not pass well. He does not handle the ball well (hell, he can’t even make it past half-court against the press). He does not shoot a high percentage from the field. He does not play a lick of defense. He is not a leader. He is not inspired. I have never once heard him talk about wanting to win a championship before his career comes to an end. He and Joe isolate themselves from younger players.
He is not even a shadow of the player he once was.
He is still our best option at the point.
“we like our core”
terrell
February 8th, 2011
9:34 pm
Agree with Ramon. I still wonder why they call the Hawks athletic. Only athletic person is Josh. That’s it.
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:35 pm
Some of the duck -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VTFro4xTV8
Fundamentals
February 8th, 2011
9:35 pm
Props to Marvin for at least facing the interview and plainly stating “We weren’t ready to play” “We didn’t defend” PERIOD.
cp
February 8th, 2011
9:38 pm
Time to sit Bibby. I cant keep watching him being destroyed defensively game after game.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
9:40 pm
Good blogging tonight Ramon
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:42 pm
What do you know…LD said the same thing he always says after losses like this.
The Energy and effort wasn’t there. Too many defensive breakdowns blah blah.
First of all, defensive breakdowns and dribble penetrations start with bibby (imo). And the Sixers continually exploited that. Bigs were forced to rotate, and gave up a lot of rebounds…
But the rest of the starters did not help either.
If I’m LD, I am going to Rick and asking him to make a trade…
Nique's Revenge
February 8th, 2011
9:43 pm
lmfao @ HAHA pachulia buwahahahahahaa
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:43 pm
http://www.nba.com/hawks/photogallery/FCF_2010.html?curPhoto=3
Nique's Revenge
February 8th, 2011
9:44 pm
LD aint askin for no trade he’s new and scared to. he thinks 6 points from joe is great!
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:46 pm
The scroll on ESPN’s bottom line says that the Hawks are the only team in the NBA that has a 34+ point home loss. The Hawks have two; everyone else has zero.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
9:46 pm
Not sure if i’ll be buying tickets to the bulls game anymore
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:47 pm
Thanks Lewis. And I definitely agree with you about Bibby. Bibby wouldn’t be so terrible if he was used in a S. Cassell-Boston Celtics or G. Payton-Miami Heat type role. There’s no way to deny that Bibby and JC’s lack of defense often leads to the rest of the lineup (Josh, Al and Joe) picking up fouls that they shouldn’t have to pick up. And the trade off is what? Below 40% shooting? 3.5 assists a game? At least Nash gives you 10 assists and 50% shooting to go along with bad defense.
When you add Zaza and Bibby’s salary together, you can’t help but to get frustrated. Those two make more than the rest of the bench combined (not including Crawford).
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:47 pm
This is our starting center -
http://www.basketballwallpapers.tk/images/wallpapers/Zaza+Pachulia.jpg
LMFAO!!!!!
85Souf
February 8th, 2011
9:48 pm
Where is Rick Sund?, When was the last time he commented on The Hawks?, We see Arthur Blanks All the time, but never Rick! When Mo(the guy we didn’t want to opt to stay in his contract) and ZaZa are the best off your bench (besides Jamal) theres a problem. Why waste money on so many players that don’t play, we should only have 8 guys under contract, and everyone else should be signing 10 day contracts for the rest of the year. We didnt want Shaq, We didnt want Peja, We dont want Carmelo, We dont want anyone off the Timberwolves, Cavs, or Nets, We dont know What Rick Sund wants, We all know the fans want a pg and a c or at least 1 of the 2, We want Marvin to be more consistant, We want Josh Smith to go to the hole with authority 95% of the time like Lebron because other players get scared and move out the way just as they do with Blake Griffin does Josh not see them backing up or looking scared? We want ZaZa to play hard more than just 1 out of every 13 games he said he wanted more PT but he doesn’t play like he deserves is, We want our mediocre bench if theyre going to be on the team we want to see them in the game for more than 5 minutes and not every 10 games, Why draft Sergiy Gladyr, Pape Sy, Jeff Teague, & Jordan Crawford when they wont play a lick of time, Why does Larry Drew give the same excuses???????
northcyde
February 8th, 2011
9:48 pm
This is is going to be a looooooong week. The hate will flow for 3 days.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:49 pm
O’brien, what can LD really say after this loss? He’s not Phil Jackson or Pop. You see what complaining about the roster got Larry Brown, and he’s a hall of famer. Larry Drew come out and says the truth “My boss couldn’t put together depth on a roster if he was given the top 5 picks two years in a row”, he’ll be unemployed quicker than a cabinet member posing with a Nazi flag.
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:49 pm
Calm down dude –
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cQjjvFAf6Q
Love how he says “Game SEVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN” LOL!!
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:50 pm
Heat up 3 with 90 seconds to go. magic won already
O'Brien
February 8th, 2011
9:51 pm
Ra’mon,
Yeah, I guess its hard for LD to speak up, since Rick is on record as saying “He likes his core”.
LOL
February 8th, 2011
9:51 pm
LMFAO -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T99aL8j4yyc&feature=related
“GAME SEEEEEEEEEEEEEVEEEEEEEEEEN” LOL
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:52 pm
“Where is Rick Sund?, When was the last time he commented on The Hawks?”
At this point do you really want to hear that doofus comment on the Hawks? The man thinks Bibby is in his prime. What more do we need to hear from him to make a judgment on him?
Najeh Davenpoop
February 8th, 2011
9:55 pm
LD says he “might have to make some changes to his starting lineup” if this continues. What changes? Other than starting Teague or Jamal instead of Bibby, I can’t see what move would actually be an improvement. Even Marvin is playing well enough to hold off Damien and Mo at the starting SF position.
Sund is the guy who needs to make a move more than LD.
Jedi Falcon
February 8th, 2011
9:55 pm
This is why the Hawks never go anywhere. Inconsistent. Losing games by so many points is unacceptable. No one respects the Hawks or takes this team seriously
lewis
February 8th, 2011
9:57 pm
Rick Sund said he reads HoopsHype.com for trade rumors.
LOL @ PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN DOING THE SAME THING FOR 30 YEARS AND HAVE NEVER GOTTEN BETTER AT IT. THIS TEAM IS AN EXTENSION OF SUND’S CAREER-LONG MEDIOCRITY AS A GM
Lol @ the Hawks organization for not using advanced statistical analysis or making trades
we’re in the dark ages
“we like our core”
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
9:59 pm
85Souf, are you serious? You want Josh to drive with authority 95% of the time like Lebron? Lebron is notorious for shooting too many jumpers and not driving enough. Skip Bayless owes 20% of his salary to Lebron’s jump shooting. Also, did you not hear Dominique speak tonight when talking about A. Iguodala, and saying how short careers normally are for high jumpers because they take such a beating. 82 games in a season, and if a player under 6′10 gets 4 dunks a game, that’s 328 dunks in a year. How many seasons do you see a player’s knees holding up with that high impact on their dunks? Also, as documented, Josh’s driving is limited currently with his inability to dribble with his right hand through traffic. A smart defender won’t allow Josh to drive to his left and forces him right. This leads to either a charge or a turnover.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:02 pm
If M. Kupchak has multiple rings as a GM, and he can come on national tv or radio and say our roster isn’t good enough, so someone’s being shipped out. Why is it that Sund feel’s he must live by his ‘old school’ rules and keep everything close to the vest? Is he scared someone may think that Bibby is washed up, if he comes out and say ‘We need another pg’? Well guess what Sund, the entire league already feels that way. This is why there are back up PGs ranked higher than Bibby.
LOL
February 8th, 2011
10:03 pm
LOL @ 328 DUNKS A YEAR BEING A HIGH NUMBER………………………………..
lewis
February 8th, 2011
10:11 pm
Josh is saving his legs for when he gets traded to a contender
mykhalc
February 8th, 2011
10:12 pm
lookin’ good…just like 07-08, 08-09, 09-10…NOW we got 10-11!!! Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:12 pm
LOL, that’s not including practice or the playoffs. And that’s the landing that’s causing the most problems after a while. LOL, how many times have you dunked this year?
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:13 pm
Lewis, that’s funny, lol.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:14 pm
LOL, you name how many ‘dunkers’ under 6′10 you know who played that style of play until after they were 34 years of age in this league. And then you name the dunkers who careers who were ended at a younger age. You can start with McDyess and Dominique.
Section 303
February 8th, 2011
10:26 pm
Just got back from the game….what a debacle. If the Hawks do not make some kind of trade, then they just don’t care. What a garbage team we choose to root for.
I hope most of you were smarter than me and stayed away.
Can’t wait for these clowns to beat (maybe?) the Bobcats on Saturday night and then jerk themselves off, talking about how they redeemed themselves. Just like they did after the Hornets beat them by 300 pts. back in January. They’re almost beyond redeeming.
Make a move. Make it soon. I almost don’t care what the trade is, just make one. Show me you care just a little.
Section 303
February 8th, 2011
10:39 pm
Boys,
If you are season ticket holders, there’s a Town Hall Meeting before the Bobcat game on Saturday night. None other than Michael Gerron will be the host.
I can’t wait to ask him why there’s been no trades.
kwooden1
February 8th, 2011
10:45 pm
Its clearly no coincidence that the two games we get blown out Horford isn’t around. Al may take a lot of jumpshots, but he’s still our only consistent rebounder. Not much I can say about Bibby! I don’t think the guy is finished yet as an NBA player, but right now he’s not an NBA player. When I say him get off the bench for his last run in the Wizards game, I knew he was finished. He could barely stand-up and run to the scores table. LD is really in trouble now, because he actually needs Teague to become a serviceable starting PG today, because Bibby doesn’t have any legs. Bibby might recover a little bit after the AllStar break, but he’s not going to last much longer after that. I don’t know what’s going on with Zaza, but he’s lost any ability to score in this league. Collins could have done a better job.
I can’t blame Bibby for how he’s playing, I think he’s doing the best he can but he just doesn’t have it anymore! Especially right now. Right now I think Teague should start over Bibby. At the very least Bibby needs the rest and to start playing defensive against 2nd unit guys. It would shock me if LD did it, but I don’t think he has a choice.
GO HAWKS!!
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:48 pm
KWooden, Josh is ranked in the top 15 in the league in rebounding. I would consider that consistent. Its just hard to rebound even more when you’re out covering for your PG getting beat, or on offense when you have to get back on defense and unable to crash the offensive glass. The Hawks transition defense begins and ends with Josh, other wise he would be a 10 + rebound guy every night.
lewis
February 8th, 2011
10:49 pm
SECTION 303 YOU GOTTA REP THIS BLOG @ THAT MEETING
GET IT DONE
Section 303
February 8th, 2011
10:50 pm
kwooden1, I understand what you’re saying. But, if Teague is the guy we’re pinning our hopes on, we’re in major trouble. I’ll take my chances with a washed up, broken down Mike Bibby. Teague is just not very good.
Our, maybe, this loser organization can stop kidding themselves that Teague will pan out and make a deal for a PG? Just a thought.
Section 303
February 8th, 2011
10:50 pm
lewis, don’t worry at all about that. I’m not afraid of asking questions.
Clyde
February 8th, 2011
10:54 pm
I’m going to wait till a new blog comes up to give my account of the game tonight.
Ra'mon
February 8th, 2011
10:57 pm
Teague is not the answer. So starting Teague is even more not the answer. If the guy can’t command the lead on the 2nd unit, no way he can do it on the first unit. The answer to pg is not on this roster! If the Hawks ran an effective zone, Joe would be the best option at PG. He ends up guarding the PG most games anyway. And the motion offense doesn’t require a PG if Sund isn’t going to get up and make a trade with the bench players.
Melvin
February 8th, 2011
11:29 pm
Section 303,
Please post a full report from the town hall meeting on the blog….
Grandad
February 8th, 2011
11:55 pm
I just arrived and haven’t read everyone’s perspective.
Here’s mine:
LD had best back up what he says;
“shake up starting line-up”.
There was no excuse for this garbage.
These supposed professionals did not earn their exorbitant checks tonight.
It’s on LD just as he says [a reflection] at least he understands.
Plus he’s correct to call out his charges in public.
They were a public disgrace.
Once in a season…but twice in 3 wks.
Gomer [Pyle] said:
“fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice , shame on me”.
This is totally unacceptable.
Did they go out on a binge last eve?
Were they hung over?
Do they even care?
Why do I care?
Too long, too many times, with this bunch.
I can’t wait to hear the same ol’ drivel…..
This is not X’s and O’s and it’s not about a pg or a Big.
Someone @ the top has to figure out who posses these qualities:
*Warriors *Winners *Competitors *Heart *Leadership
*Responsibility *Industrious *Team 1st *Perseverance.
Then get rid of the chaff…break up the durn core!
I feel better now.
slimjr
February 9th, 2011
12:39 am
Hang in there Hawks fans,The next three weeks are going to be brutal…. The beat downs will continue…
Scottie jettison the Core. Make it so…..
dsee
February 9th, 2011
8:16 am
Send Joe/anyone except Josh&Al to NJ Nets, get some picks Murphy, Morrow & Favors. Sund can save the day. Change team attitude bench Bibby. Stop playin 4 on 5.
Sautee
February 9th, 2011
12:41 pm
Section 303,
Please ask Mike Gearon if two losses by 34+ at home is enough to make him doubt the wisdom of sticking with the core.