Atlanta Hawks: Marvin Williams: ‘Full responsibilty’ for role in Knicks fight, ‘no hard feelings’ for Shawne Williams

The way it looked was Hawks forward Marvin Williams mugged Knicks counterpart Shawne Williams in the back of the head, Shawne Williams bucked up, and then Marvin started swinging.

But Marvin said his outburst instead was in reaction to a culmination of unspecified actions by the Knicks.

“There was just things going on throughout the game,” Marvin said today in his first public comments since the incident. “I finally reacted, I guess. What happened has happened. I’ve obviously gotten my punishment. I accept full responsibility for what I did. Just move on from here.”

Officials ejected Marvin from the game and the NBA suspended him for two games. He sat out Saturday’s loss at Dallas and also will miss Wednesday’s game against the Raptors at Philips Arena. The league suspended Shawne Williams for a game.

The Hawks play at New York on Feb. 16. As far as Marvin is concerned, there will be no carry-over from Friday’s fight.

“It’s all good,” Marvin said. “I have no hard feelings towards Shawne. What happened, happened. I am sure when we go to New York it will be interesting. But I had no problems with him before the game and I have no problems with him today. Like I said, some things happened throughout the game and I just finally reacted.”

Hawks coach Larry Drew got caught up in the aftermath when Marvin Williams shoved his coach away as he tried to restrain him.

“That’s kind of been a joke [among the team] the last couple of days,” Marvin said. “I did apologize to him. I told him I had no idea at that time who was who, or what was what. He said it was no hard feelings. Coach has been around this a long time. He’s seen things like that before and he said he understood.”

Drew laughed off the shove from Marvin the day after the game. And today he said the Knicks fracas could be good for his team’s reputation around the league.

The Hawks have long been known as an athletic, finesse team but not particularly tough or physical. Drew said he thinks the fracas with the Knicks could help change that perception.

“I really do,” Drew said. “I don’t condone fighting in any shape, form or fashion. But I know this is a game where emotions do get high. The one thing as a team, you don’t want to be labeled a ’soft’ team. Through the course of the season, there are going to be some moments there those type things break out.

“I don’t condone fighting. But certainly you don’t want to be put into a situation where you feel things got tough and you backed away, because that will carry around the league. As a team you just don’t want that label. What happened with Marv is just an unfortunate incident and we have just got to move on from it.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

152 comments Add your comment

lewis

January 31st, 2011
4:17 pm

breakout moment of marv’s career

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

Lets hope this flame ignites a fire in him like none before.

lewis

January 31st, 2011
4:31 pm

cant stop thinking how much better the hawks would be with any other starting point guard

Banks

January 31st, 2011
4:33 pm

Marvin’s swing in the fight was reflective of his shot OFF

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
4:37 pm

@Banks

LOL

@Lewis

Ill still take him over Crawford at point. They both cant play “D” but Bibby tries and he wont jack up long jumper out of nowhere.

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:39 pm

Totally agree with lewis. Marvins just a nice dude by nature, and to me he’s always accepted whatever role comes his way, but we’ve all seen that he doesn’t seem to play full-tilt, to his full potential. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, he’s got to speak up and step up, even if it doesn’t seem natural for him. Hope this breaks it out for him, come out of that shell Marvin, more than any player on the roster more aggression for Marvin would have a HUGE impact on this team contending in the East. All the real Hawks fans have love for ya Marv, keep ur chin up GO HAWKS!

Ronin

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

I would just like to personally thank Josh Smith and Marvin Williams for letting my 10 year old son see how NOT to act in regards to your behavior Friday night. You are an embarassment, and the Hawks should be ashamed to have you as a part of the organization.

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

As one of Marvin’s biggest critics, I’m glad to see him step up for himself. On the replay, it looked like dude tried to kiss him, which is a blatent form of disrespect. Either way, Marv showed some passion and courage, which is something that he has always lacked. Maybe his role on this team is to become our enforcer (LOL). Nobody else on the team acts like they will bust a grape except Horford, Zaza, Collins and Josh. This year, Collins has been the only guy I have seen take a shot on somebody coming in the lane, and not try to help them up.

I am very interested to see if Eddie House gets a fine as well. He did the exact same gesture that Josh did. I have also seen Bibby do it numerous times. Big balls.

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

same advice for Teague, I would love to see him get more playing time with the starters. He needs their guidance on the floor, when it’s all reserves out there they all seem lost. Why does Drew seem so intent on playing a ’second unit’ all at once, instead of just subbing in Zaza with the starters, or Jamal, or Teague, instead of everybody for everybody?

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
4:44 pm

Ronin,

Sorry your son had to see such a terrible display. I hope he never goes out into the real world, or decides to play any organized sports in his life. What will he do if someone calls him a bad name? LOL

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:45 pm

Why does Drew seem so intent on playing a ’second unit’ all at once, instead of just subbing in Zaza with the starters, or Jamal, or Teague, instead of everybody for everybody?

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:46 pm

Ronin, your son will need to know how to defend himself, it might not be pretty, but it is how the world works, you can’t escape every a*hole with your words. and rod from college park, lol.

Duck!

January 31st, 2011
4:50 pm

The duck was quackin!

Role Model

January 31st, 2011
4:52 pm

@ Rod from College Park: LOL!!!

ATL FAN

January 31st, 2011
4:55 pm

Bryson

January 31st, 2011
4:56 pm

Rod from College Park,

Not sure what “real world” you live in where people can act like total morons and not be held accountable, but if I acted the way those two acted while at my job, I would be umemployed. But I am not overly bothered that my son saw those idiots acting that way. It was a teaching moment for me.

SmallTimes

January 31st, 2011
4:56 pm

Ronin, you gotta let your son see how these THUGS operate man. Smoove grabbing his nuts and marvin just fighting and using the word ‘pun azzz niggga’. It’s the real world man in th ATL

Buddy Grizzard

January 31st, 2011
4:57 pm

JJ to the Cavs for Antawn and Anthony Parker. I’m not kidding ya’ll… it’s this franchise’s only hope.

Banks

January 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

The world is comming to an end Rod is becoming a Marvin fan, mark this date LOL.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

I LOVE THE HAWKS AND ALL THE DAILY BLOGGERS……IT GETS ME GREAT ENTERTAINMENT WHILE IM OVERSEAS OR DEPLOYED LOL

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:07 pm

No seriously Marvin there better be some carry over from that emotional outburst and we better see it in your play style.

I think every team needs a vocal leader where you just know not to mess with them. The Hawks don’t have that so we will always be considered some what soft because we are not the aggressors. We need to be the aggressors. Whether it is taking it out on the court in your play or throwing some extra elbows.

The Celtics (Top to bottom) are a great example and so is Lebron. Throughout the whole game they are always looking for that extra contact and something extra to say and it affects how the other teams play. So the Hawks aren’t really soft, but I know a lot of fans who think they are. They get pushed around until they are ready to explode like MArvin or Zaza.

I remember going to a game and watching Zach Randolph and Ricky Davis of all people taunt Zaza like for about a five minute span. Zach was abusing him on offense and Ricky was just in his face asking if he was okay in a taunting way. I mean Zaza wouldn’t even speak to them. It really affected his game. What Zaza needed was for more than one of his teammates to collectively, shut up at least Ricky Davis so that he could focus on Zach, but all of his teammates had their backs turned.

Thats not a collective unit. And you need that to be a competitive post season locker room.

jase

January 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

we are going to get nash

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

Byson,

The “real world” of organized sports. Please name me one organized sport where guys don’t make gestures or get into fights. I’m waiting. I assume your job does not involve physical contact with another man. What was your teaching moment? If another man tries to kiss you, you should shake his hand? Or should you run away and back down from every act of aggression. Hate to be your son or Ronin’s son. I guess you guys would really love the Hawks if everyone acted like Joe Johnson all the time.

Ricky

January 31st, 2011
5:10 pm

Marvin said. “I did apologize to him. I told him I had no idea at that time who was who”……….I hear ya Marvin. I kinda think they all look alike too.

Mr. Phil

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

I for one have long thought a little dust up was in order for this team. The culture needs to change a little bit. I think the Hawks are perceived as soft (fair or not). I hate to see fights in professional sports, and certainly don’t condone it. But at the same time I kinda think the Hawks need to establish some level of respect.

Craig Ehlo

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

@ SmallTimes- LOL

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

Slow Down Banks!!! I would not go that far. When he can take 3 steps without falling then maybe.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:13 pm

Really Ricky????

hmmm

Craig Ehlo

January 31st, 2011
5:17 pm

@ Ricky- Dayum, that was Racist!

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:20 pm

Ricky that was messed up.

But it was funny.

But it was messed up

Boneyard Randy

January 31st, 2011
5:26 pm

Every team in the league has taken notice – don’t mess with Duckbutt!
- Quack

Boneyard Randy

January 31st, 2011
5:27 pm

Seriously though, love the fire and energy. See ya Wednesday for the dinosaurs.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
5:29 pm

Hockey players beat each others’ faces in on a daily basis with no complaints from the parents who take their parents to games, but if a basketball player does the big balls dance it is a “teaching moment” for children to know how not to act. Good to know that parents care more to teach their children about mildly amusing celebrations than they do about fighting each other. Nice to know where the next generation of America is headed — a bunch of kids who will beat the sh-t out of each other and will respectfully decline to do the big balls dance afterwards. Fantastic.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
5:31 pm

That should obviously say “parents who take their children to games”.

Ricky

January 31st, 2011
5:38 pm

I’d make Marvin ride at the back of the bus for his punishment.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:41 pm

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:42 pm

Soccer players from all over the world do all kinds of offensive gestures after goals, but don’t let those basketball players do the big balls dance, because parents will have to teach their kids right from wrong. LOL

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:43 pm

now your not funny, but I am pretty sure you are going for shock value you now

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
5:51 pm

“Marvin’s swing in the fight was reflective of his shot OFF” LOL

enough said…………………………………………………..

J Real

January 31st, 2011
5:54 pm

The NBA is a have/have not league. Out of all the teams there are only 3 or 4 who actually have a chance to win a championship. The league knows it, the coaches and players know it, and the fans should know it. The Hawks are among the have not. They know they’re not winning a championship this year. Unless you are a fan of SA, LA, MIA, BOS, you should find other things to do with your time.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
5:58 pm

Kevin Garnett punch to the crotch the other day was very strange!!! How come he did not get suspended for that weird move?.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:01 pm

“Hockey players beat each others’ faces in on a daily basis with no complaints from the parents who take their parents to games, but if a basketball player does the big balls dance it is a “teaching moment” for children to know how not to act. Good to know that parents care more to teach their children about mildly amusing celebrations than they do about fighting each other. Nice to know where the next generation of America is headed — a bunch of kids who will beat the sh-t out of each other and will respectfully decline to do the big balls dance afterwards. Fantastic.”

The Land of Hypocrites……………

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:04 pm

MR MARVIN WILLIAMS IS comin back on a mission!! He’s gonna give you 18 and 8 nightly! I can dream can’t I???????

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

“The Hawks have long been known as an athletic, finesse team but not particularly tough or physical. Drew said he thinks the fracas with the Knicks could help change that perception.”

Doubt it Highly MR. Drew………………..

Put it back MoFo

January 31st, 2011
6:17 pm

Slick Rickey dont act like you dont like the big balls dance. Oh my bad thats your wife who likes it. Sorry baby our secret. Wouldnt want rickey strip searching you and checking your underwear every time you come thru the door.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
6:20 pm

“Soccer players from all over the world do all kinds of offensive gestures after goals”

Yes they do.

I wonder what the parents at that game said afterwards to explain that to their children.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

Marvin-Ness!

Whoa! Marvin, hold up bruh? Don’t give away your Ness! Isn’t there some Man Law about not apologizing to a punk after you whupped his azz in front of the whole wide world? Man that’s like winning the Heavy Weight Fight and giving the loser your belt! Marvin, man ride this:

“I’M a BAAAD. Man!” On out, take that victory to your grave man … Now you done gone and got all soft on us again! Stern is NOT gonna’. Un-Suspend you for apologizing and he definitely ain’t gonna’ give you a refund!
_______________________

Aye Marvin, “Can I hold 50K till Friday?” Punk! You don’t see Smoove apologizing, he just got his money’s worth of nut sacks! You Big Dummie!
______________________

I’m just playing, but yall know I’m right though!

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:39 pm

“Aye Marvin, “Can I hold 50K till Friday?” Punk! You don’t see Smoove apologizing, he just got his money’s worth of nut sacks! You Big Dummie!”

That is priceless!!!! LOL.. The famous words of FRED G. SANDFORD…LOL
______________________

lewis

January 31st, 2011
6:40 pm

Bill Ingram, Hoopsworld

Like every other team in the NBA right now, the Atlanta Hawks are exploring ways that they might improve their roster before next month’s trade deadline. This year’s deadline, isn’t like those of recent seasons, as there is a significant unknown awaiting teams as they head into the summer and next offseason. Because the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) is set to expire, many teams are hesitant to take on long-term commitments without knowing exactly what those commitments will look like under a new CBA.

Count the Atlanta Hawks among those teams. Also count the Hawks among the teams that are steadfastly staying below the NBA’s salary cap, as they can’t afford to pay so much as a dollar of luxury tax and forfeit their share of the money dolled out by the teams who are over the cap. There are still a few teams willing to spend, such as the Los Angeles Lakers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic and Dallas Mavericks, but most teams are taking the conservative approach with the new CBA looming, and the Hawks would only make a trade if it significantly improved their team. There will be no minor tweaks this year.

“We like where we are, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t do any trades,” Hawks GM Rick Sund tells HOOPSWORLD. “Everybody in the league looks to do trades. You always have dialogue with your colleagues in the league. If you can make your team better, you do it, but we’re not looking for lateral moves. In the past, you’d do some lateral moves sometimes, but we’re not looking for lateral moves this year. If we can do something that makes our team better we’ll definitely pursue it, but right now I don’t see a trade out there that helps our team and keeps us under the cap. We’ve got to get bang for our buck.”

While the national media focuses primarily on the Miami HEAT, Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic in terms of possible NBA Finalists from the Eastern Conference, the Atlanta Hawks have quietly making progress.

“We got our 30th win before February, and that was something we wanted to accomplish,” says Sund. “This is an amazing stat, too: We’ve gone 14 straight months now with a winning record, which ranks as the best stretch for the Hawks franchise in Atlanta. That’s remarkable when you consider where they were. Three years ago they were 37-45, then they got to 47 wins, then 53. Who knows if we can get 53 again, but we’re in that 50-win club. If you can get 50, that’s generally home court and that can get you through the first round and you’re kind of one of the elite teams. Then you’ve got to go from being one of the elites to being a championship-caliber team, and most of my colleagues consider championship-caliber to getting to the conference finals. There’s only four teams left, and that’s our challenge and our goal. They won 50, they’ve been to the first round for two years, got swept in the second round, but now I think they believe they can play every team in the league. That’s been our process, and we’ll see how it works out. I think it’s a compelling year for us, because we’re had six or seven consecutive years of improving our record, and it’s the first time, I think, that a team has ever improved for seven consecutive years.”

Atlanta’s big move over the summer was simply keeping Joe Johnson in town, and many felt that wasn’t enough to keep the Hawks competitive in an ever-changing East. Sund, however, thought that keeping the same core group in tact could give his team an edge come playoff time.

“I think continuity could give us an advantage, but we’ll see how that plays out. I think there are probably four or five legitimate teams that might have a shot at the Eastern Conference Finals. We’re getting close to what the West has been, where you could be the third seed playing the sixth seed and it might be pretty tough. All of a sudden Chicago and Atlanta in there, New York is up and coming, so the playoffs will be more interesting instead of just the first four seeds automatically advancing. Prior to this year I don’t think the Hawks were mentally ready to beat the second round opponent. That’s the process, the maturing process. They think that now. They believe they can beat that next team, and that’s our goal. We want to go from an elite team to a championship-caliber team.”

While the Hawks are exploring trade options, they truly believe continuity will be the key to getting out of the second round of the playoffs this season, must as continuity has helped the West-leading San Antonio Spurs.

“Chemistry is so important, and if you look at San Antonio, in some ways they’re analogous to us,” Sund explains. “They got through the first round last year and got swept in four. We got through the first round last year and got swept in four. They didn’t really make any major changes and we didn’t make any major changes. They’re a more veteran team than us, we started the season with three starters who are 24 or younger in Horford, Josh and Marvin. Joe, Bibbby and Jamal are all in their primes, so that combination is good. But we think continuity and chemistry are important for us, just as they have been for San Antonio.”

The real key for the Hawks, though, is Joe Johnson. Many pundits raised their eyebrows when the Hawks made Johnson one of the richest players in the NBA last summer, but the Hawks believe he’s the one who will take them all the way.

“Joe’s the guy,” says Sund, without hesitation. “He’s been an All-Star caliber player, but I think last year he crossed the line to all-pro. When you’re all-pro you’re one of the top 15 players in the league. He’s got to maintain that, obviously, and this year he got off to a slow start with the surgery and missed games, but this month we’re 10-4, we’re (30-18) on the road, and that’s the maturing process. A playoff team has to win 14 on the road. A solid, elite team has to win between 17-19 on the road. Elite teams get into the 20, 22, 24 area. We’re knocking on the door of that right now, and that’s who we are. Joe’s at the heart of all of that.”

Johnson was as good as ever in January, averaging 26.0 points and shooting 50% from the field in leading the Hawks to a solid month. Trade or no trade, it’s Johnson who will take the Hawks as far as they go this season, and they believe a trip to the NBA Finals is a realitic goal.

Time will tell, of course, but the Hawks look as good as anyone in the East outside of Boston at this point.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18628#ixzz1CewIMWm4

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:45 pm

“We like where we are, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t do any trades,” Hawks GM Rick Sund tells HOOPSWORLD. “Everybody in the league looks to do trades. You always have dialogue with your colleagues in the league. If you can make your team better, you do it, but we’re not looking for lateral moves. In the past, you’d do some lateral moves sometimes, but we’re not looking for lateral moves this year. If we can do something that makes our team better we’ll definitely pursue it, but right now I don’t see a trade out there that helps our team and keeps us under the cap. We’ve got to get bang for our buck.”

Your BANG IS COMIN SUND SOON.. IT’s called an humiliating playoff elimination again and again and again…………
Sund=Fail…………………………….YAWN…………………………….