Atlanta Hawks: Marvin Williams: ‘Full responsibilty’ for role in Knicks fight, ‘no hard feelings’ for Shawne Williams

lewis

January 31st, 2011
4:17 pm

breakout moment of marv’s career

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
4:28 pm

Lets hope this flame ignites a fire in him like none before.

lewis

January 31st, 2011
4:31 pm

cant stop thinking how much better the hawks would be with any other starting point guard

Banks

January 31st, 2011
4:33 pm

Marvin’s swing in the fight was reflective of his shot OFF

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
4:37 pm

@Banks

LOL

@Lewis

Ill still take him over Crawford at point. They both cant play “D” but Bibby tries and he wont jack up long jumper out of nowhere.

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:39 pm

Totally agree with lewis. Marvins just a nice dude by nature, and to me he’s always accepted whatever role comes his way, but we’ve all seen that he doesn’t seem to play full-tilt, to his full potential. Squeaky wheel gets the grease, he’s got to speak up and step up, even if it doesn’t seem natural for him. Hope this breaks it out for him, come out of that shell Marvin, more than any player on the roster more aggression for Marvin would have a HUGE impact on this team contending in the East. All the real Hawks fans have love for ya Marv, keep ur chin up GO HAWKS!

Ronin

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

I would just like to personally thank Josh Smith and Marvin Williams for letting my 10 year old son see how NOT to act in regards to your behavior Friday night. You are an embarassment, and the Hawks should be ashamed to have you as a part of the organization.

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

As one of Marvin’s biggest critics, I’m glad to see him step up for himself. On the replay, it looked like dude tried to kiss him, which is a blatent form of disrespect. Either way, Marv showed some passion and courage, which is something that he has always lacked. Maybe his role on this team is to become our enforcer (LOL). Nobody else on the team acts like they will bust a grape except Horford, Zaza, Collins and Josh. This year, Collins has been the only guy I have seen take a shot on somebody coming in the lane, and not try to help them up.

I am very interested to see if Eddie House gets a fine as well. He did the exact same gesture that Josh did. I have also seen Bibby do it numerous times. Big balls.

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:41 pm

same advice for Teague, I would love to see him get more playing time with the starters. He needs their guidance on the floor, when it’s all reserves out there they all seem lost. Why does Drew seem so intent on playing a ’second unit’ all at once, instead of just subbing in Zaza with the starters, or Jamal, or Teague, instead of everybody for everybody?

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
4:44 pm

Ronin,

Sorry your son had to see such a terrible display. I hope he never goes out into the real world, or decides to play any organized sports in his life. What will he do if someone calls him a bad name? LOL

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:45 pm

Why does Drew seem so intent on playing a ’second unit’ all at once, instead of just subbing in Zaza with the starters, or Jamal, or Teague, instead of everybody for everybody?

ToeKnee

January 31st, 2011
4:46 pm

Ronin, your son will need to know how to defend himself, it might not be pretty, but it is how the world works, you can’t escape every a*hole with your words. and rod from college park, lol.

Duck!

January 31st, 2011
4:50 pm

The duck was quackin!

Role Model

January 31st, 2011
4:52 pm

@ Rod from College Park: LOL!!!

ATL FAN

January 31st, 2011
4:55 pm

LOL @ ROD

Bryson

January 31st, 2011
4:56 pm

Rod from College Park,

Not sure what “real world” you live in where people can act like total morons and not be held accountable, but if I acted the way those two acted while at my job, I would be umemployed. But I am not overly bothered that my son saw those idiots acting that way. It was a teaching moment for me.

SmallTimes

January 31st, 2011
4:56 pm

Ronin, you gotta let your son see how these THUGS operate man. Smoove grabbing his nuts and marvin just fighting and using the word ‘pun azzz niggga’. It’s the real world man in th ATL

Buddy Grizzard

January 31st, 2011
4:57 pm

JJ to the Cavs for Antawn and Anthony Parker. I’m not kidding ya’ll… it’s this franchise’s only hope.

Banks

January 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

The world is comming to an end Rod is becoming a Marvin fan, mark this date LOL.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:03 pm

I LOVE THE HAWKS AND ALL THE DAILY BLOGGERS……IT GETS ME GREAT ENTERTAINMENT WHILE IM OVERSEAS OR DEPLOYED LOL

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:07 pm

No seriously Marvin there better be some carry over from that emotional outburst and we better see it in your play style.

I think every team needs a vocal leader where you just know not to mess with them. The Hawks don’t have that so we will always be considered some what soft because we are not the aggressors. We need to be the aggressors. Whether it is taking it out on the court in your play or throwing some extra elbows.

The Celtics (Top to bottom) are a great example and so is Lebron. Throughout the whole game they are always looking for that extra contact and something extra to say and it affects how the other teams play. So the Hawks aren’t really soft, but I know a lot of fans who think they are. They get pushed around until they are ready to explode like MArvin or Zaza.

I remember going to a game and watching Zach Randolph and Ricky Davis of all people taunt Zaza like for about a five minute span. Zach was abusing him on offense and Ricky was just in his face asking if he was okay in a taunting way. I mean Zaza wouldn’t even speak to them. It really affected his game. What Zaza needed was for more than one of his teammates to collectively, shut up at least Ricky Davis so that he could focus on Zach, but all of his teammates had their backs turned.

Thats not a collective unit. And you need that to be a competitive post season locker room.

jase

January 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

we are going to get nash

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:09 pm

Byson,

The “real world” of organized sports. Please name me one organized sport where guys don’t make gestures or get into fights. I’m waiting. I assume your job does not involve physical contact with another man. What was your teaching moment? If another man tries to kiss you, you should shake his hand? Or should you run away and back down from every act of aggression. Hate to be your son or Ronin’s son. I guess you guys would really love the Hawks if everyone acted like Joe Johnson all the time.

Ricky

January 31st, 2011
5:10 pm

Marvin said. “I did apologize to him. I told him I had no idea at that time who was who”……….I hear ya Marvin. I kinda think they all look alike too.

Mr. Phil

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

I for one have long thought a little dust up was in order for this team. The culture needs to change a little bit. I think the Hawks are perceived as soft (fair or not). I hate to see fights in professional sports, and certainly don’t condone it. But at the same time I kinda think the Hawks need to establish some level of respect.

Craig Ehlo

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

@ SmallTimes- LOL

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:11 pm

Slow Down Banks!!! I would not go that far. When he can take 3 steps without falling then maybe.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:13 pm

Really Ricky????

hmmm

Craig Ehlo

January 31st, 2011
5:17 pm

@ Ricky- Dayum, that was Racist!

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:20 pm

Ricky that was messed up.

But it was funny.

But it was messed up

Boneyard Randy

January 31st, 2011
5:26 pm

Every team in the league has taken notice – don’t mess with Duckbutt!
- Quack

Boneyard Randy

January 31st, 2011
5:27 pm

Seriously though, love the fire and energy. See ya Wednesday for the dinosaurs.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
5:29 pm

Hockey players beat each others’ faces in on a daily basis with no complaints from the parents who take their parents to games, but if a basketball player does the big balls dance it is a “teaching moment” for children to know how not to act. Good to know that parents care more to teach their children about mildly amusing celebrations than they do about fighting each other. Nice to know where the next generation of America is headed — a bunch of kids who will beat the sh-t out of each other and will respectfully decline to do the big balls dance afterwards. Fantastic.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
5:31 pm

That should obviously say “parents who take their children to games”.

Ricky

January 31st, 2011
5:38 pm

I’d make Marvin ride at the back of the bus for his punishment.

hawks_4_life

January 31st, 2011
5:41 pm

NOT COOL

Rod from College Park

January 31st, 2011
5:42 pm

Soccer players from all over the world do all kinds of offensive gestures after goals, but don’t let those basketball players do the big balls dance, because parents will have to teach their kids right from wrong. LOL

RealSquawk

January 31st, 2011
5:43 pm

now your not funny, but I am pretty sure you are going for shock value you now

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
5:51 pm

“Marvin’s swing in the fight was reflective of his shot OFF” LOL

enough said…………………………………………………..

J Real

January 31st, 2011
5:54 pm

The NBA is a have/have not league. Out of all the teams there are only 3 or 4 who actually have a chance to win a championship. The league knows it, the coaches and players know it, and the fans should know it. The Hawks are among the have not. They know they’re not winning a championship this year. Unless you are a fan of SA, LA, MIA, BOS, you should find other things to do with your time.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
5:58 pm

Kevin Garnett punch to the crotch the other day was very strange!!! How come he did not get suspended for that weird move?.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:01 pm

“Hockey players beat each others’ faces in on a daily basis with no complaints from the parents who take their parents to games, but if a basketball player does the big balls dance it is a “teaching moment” for children to know how not to act. Good to know that parents care more to teach their children about mildly amusing celebrations than they do about fighting each other. Nice to know where the next generation of America is headed — a bunch of kids who will beat the sh-t out of each other and will respectfully decline to do the big balls dance afterwards. Fantastic.”

The Land of Hypocrites……………

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:04 pm

MR MARVIN WILLIAMS IS comin back on a mission!! He’s gonna give you 18 and 8 nightly! I can dream can’t I???????

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:13 pm

“The Hawks have long been known as an athletic, finesse team but not particularly tough or physical. Drew said he thinks the fracas with the Knicks could help change that perception.”

Doubt it Highly MR. Drew………………..

Put it back MoFo

January 31st, 2011
6:17 pm

Slick Rickey dont act like you dont like the big balls dance. Oh my bad thats your wife who likes it. Sorry baby our secret. Wouldnt want rickey strip searching you and checking your underwear every time you come thru the door.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
6:20 pm

“Soccer players from all over the world do all kinds of offensive gestures after goals”

Yes they do.

I wonder what the parents at that game said afterwards to explain that to their children.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 31st, 2011
6:25 pm

Marvin-Ness!

Whoa! Marvin, hold up bruh? Don’t give away your Ness! Isn’t there some Man Law about not apologizing to a punk after you whupped his azz in front of the whole wide world? Man that’s like winning the Heavy Weight Fight and giving the loser your belt! Marvin, man ride this:

“I’M a BAAAD. Man!” On out, take that victory to your grave man … Now you done gone and got all soft on us again! Stern is NOT gonna’. Un-Suspend you for apologizing and he definitely ain’t gonna’ give you a refund!
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Aye Marvin, “Can I hold 50K till Friday?” Punk! You don’t see Smoove apologizing, he just got his money’s worth of nut sacks! You Big Dummie!
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I’m just playing, but yall know I’m right though!

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:39 pm

“Aye Marvin, “Can I hold 50K till Friday?” Punk! You don’t see Smoove apologizing, he just got his money’s worth of nut sacks! You Big Dummie!”

That is priceless!!!! LOL.. The famous words of FRED G. SANDFORD…LOL
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lewis

January 31st, 2011
6:40 pm

Bill Ingram, Hoopsworld

Like every other team in the NBA right now, the Atlanta Hawks are exploring ways that they might improve their roster before next month’s trade deadline. This year’s deadline, isn’t like those of recent seasons, as there is a significant unknown awaiting teams as they head into the summer and next offseason. Because the NBA’s Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA) is set to expire, many teams are hesitant to take on long-term commitments without knowing exactly what those commitments will look like under a new CBA.

Count the Atlanta Hawks among those teams. Also count the Hawks among the teams that are steadfastly staying below the NBA’s salary cap, as they can’t afford to pay so much as a dollar of luxury tax and forfeit their share of the money dolled out by the teams who are over the cap. There are still a few teams willing to spend, such as the Los Angeles Lakers, Boston Celtics, Orlando Magic and Dallas Mavericks, but most teams are taking the conservative approach with the new CBA looming, and the Hawks would only make a trade if it significantly improved their team. There will be no minor tweaks this year.

“We like where we are, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t do any trades,” Hawks GM Rick Sund tells HOOPSWORLD. “Everybody in the league looks to do trades. You always have dialogue with your colleagues in the league. If you can make your team better, you do it, but we’re not looking for lateral moves. In the past, you’d do some lateral moves sometimes, but we’re not looking for lateral moves this year. If we can do something that makes our team better we’ll definitely pursue it, but right now I don’t see a trade out there that helps our team and keeps us under the cap. We’ve got to get bang for our buck.”

While the national media focuses primarily on the Miami HEAT, Boston Celtics and Orlando Magic in terms of possible NBA Finalists from the Eastern Conference, the Atlanta Hawks have quietly making progress.

“We got our 30th win before February, and that was something we wanted to accomplish,” says Sund. “This is an amazing stat, too: We’ve gone 14 straight months now with a winning record, which ranks as the best stretch for the Hawks franchise in Atlanta. That’s remarkable when you consider where they were. Three years ago they were 37-45, then they got to 47 wins, then 53. Who knows if we can get 53 again, but we’re in that 50-win club. If you can get 50, that’s generally home court and that can get you through the first round and you’re kind of one of the elite teams. Then you’ve got to go from being one of the elites to being a championship-caliber team, and most of my colleagues consider championship-caliber to getting to the conference finals. There’s only four teams left, and that’s our challenge and our goal. They won 50, they’ve been to the first round for two years, got swept in the second round, but now I think they believe they can play every team in the league. That’s been our process, and we’ll see how it works out. I think it’s a compelling year for us, because we’re had six or seven consecutive years of improving our record, and it’s the first time, I think, that a team has ever improved for seven consecutive years.”

Atlanta’s big move over the summer was simply keeping Joe Johnson in town, and many felt that wasn’t enough to keep the Hawks competitive in an ever-changing East. Sund, however, thought that keeping the same core group in tact could give his team an edge come playoff time.

“I think continuity could give us an advantage, but we’ll see how that plays out. I think there are probably four or five legitimate teams that might have a shot at the Eastern Conference Finals. We’re getting close to what the West has been, where you could be the third seed playing the sixth seed and it might be pretty tough. All of a sudden Chicago and Atlanta in there, New York is up and coming, so the playoffs will be more interesting instead of just the first four seeds automatically advancing. Prior to this year I don’t think the Hawks were mentally ready to beat the second round opponent. That’s the process, the maturing process. They think that now. They believe they can beat that next team, and that’s our goal. We want to go from an elite team to a championship-caliber team.”

While the Hawks are exploring trade options, they truly believe continuity will be the key to getting out of the second round of the playoffs this season, must as continuity has helped the West-leading San Antonio Spurs.

“Chemistry is so important, and if you look at San Antonio, in some ways they’re analogous to us,” Sund explains. “They got through the first round last year and got swept in four. We got through the first round last year and got swept in four. They didn’t really make any major changes and we didn’t make any major changes. They’re a more veteran team than us, we started the season with three starters who are 24 or younger in Horford, Josh and Marvin. Joe, Bibbby and Jamal are all in their primes, so that combination is good. But we think continuity and chemistry are important for us, just as they have been for San Antonio.”

The real key for the Hawks, though, is Joe Johnson. Many pundits raised their eyebrows when the Hawks made Johnson one of the richest players in the NBA last summer, but the Hawks believe he’s the one who will take them all the way.

“Joe’s the guy,” says Sund, without hesitation. “He’s been an All-Star caliber player, but I think last year he crossed the line to all-pro. When you’re all-pro you’re one of the top 15 players in the league. He’s got to maintain that, obviously, and this year he got off to a slow start with the surgery and missed games, but this month we’re 10-4, we’re (30-18) on the road, and that’s the maturing process. A playoff team has to win 14 on the road. A solid, elite team has to win between 17-19 on the road. Elite teams get into the 20, 22, 24 area. We’re knocking on the door of that right now, and that’s who we are. Joe’s at the heart of all of that.”

Johnson was as good as ever in January, averaging 26.0 points and shooting 50% from the field in leading the Hawks to a solid month. Trade or no trade, it’s Johnson who will take the Hawks as far as they go this season, and they believe a trip to the NBA Finals is a realitic goal.

Time will tell, of course, but the Hawks look as good as anyone in the East outside of Boston at this point.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18628#ixzz1CewIMWm4

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
6:45 pm

“We like where we are, but that doesn’t mean we wouldn’t do any trades,” Hawks GM Rick Sund tells HOOPSWORLD. “Everybody in the league looks to do trades. You always have dialogue with your colleagues in the league. If you can make your team better, you do it, but we’re not looking for lateral moves. In the past, you’d do some lateral moves sometimes, but we’re not looking for lateral moves this year. If we can do something that makes our team better we’ll definitely pursue it, but right now I don’t see a trade out there that helps our team and keeps us under the cap. We’ve got to get bang for our buck.”

Your BANG IS COMIN SUND SOON.. IT’s called an humiliating playoff elimination again and again and again…………
Sund=Fail…………………………….YAWN…………………………….

Jae Evolution

January 31st, 2011
7:01 pm

Eddie House fined 25k for obscene gesture at the Heat @ Thunder Game:

http://www.nba.com/2011/news/01/31/eddie-house-fined/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

lewis

January 31st, 2011
7:15 pm

Sund’s comments remind me of Big Brother in 1984. He talks only in positives, ambiguity in everything he says, a puppet who answers to the all powerful Spirit Group

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
7:18 pm

Maybe I just smoked some good ass weed without noticing and I’m seeing things. Maybe I’m a schizophrenic and I don’t realize it. But correct me if I’m wrong… did Rick Sund just compare the Hawks to the Spurs because both teams got swept in the 2nd round last year? Did Rick Sund just say Bibby is in his prime? Did Sund really just say Joe is a top 15 player in the league?

Holy sh-t, this team is screwed.

newkid

January 31st, 2011
7:49 pm

Well said Najeh. Cat’s a chump of the 1st order.

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Jae Evolution

January 31st, 2011
8:05 pm

Rick Sund = David Koechner minus humor + acting like he cares.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 31st, 2011
8:16 pm

Yum Yum!

“Maybe I just smoked some good ass weed without noticing and I’m seeing things. Maybe I’m a schizophrenic and I don’t realize it.”
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I got 5 on it. You got that Yum Yum, that Goode? I wish I was hearing some voices right now, because reality is a mo-fo. We’ve made, listened to, shot downn OMG’ed more trades than Bernie Maddoff on a Wall Street Trade Machine.

And this fool, pulls his head out of ASK – G’s anal sphincter and said some sh!t like that?
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ASK – G now means (Ask Gearon). K no longer means Killer, you can’t kill something that’s already dead – right? Yall said they weren’t gonna upgrade the talent on this roster. Based on NorthCyde’s brilliant analysis of this roster yesterday, there is a monumental and gargantuan drop off of talent after player #8 on this team. Our bench ranks outside of top 60 talent from one end to the other end. We got cold carcasses on down the line, when Drew looks down the bench for a life – boat, a life – line, a flotation device (even an airplane seat can float in hot water), or a styro-foamed float – hell, he ain’t even got a telephone line to dial 911! That must be one scary movie looking back at him. A horror show, Jason looking back at Drew with a chain-saw in his hand, yelling, “Hey, put me in Coach – I’m really good!”
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WWSD?

Not a damned thing! Hell, even my Cuervo Tequila Bottle can pour me a shot! What can your Tequila do? Nothing!
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Lateral move? Lateral move? Is he talking to me about a lateral move?
How about a bowel movement? Move something! Bust a Move – Sund.
They could pay me half your salary and I would do nothing for free!

Didn’t Al and Josh say, “We need some help in the paint, to be any type of contender.” ? Didn’t he? 13 pts in the 4th Qrtr two years straight is a dry joke, that needs some water!

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Ok, whew! I feel better. Loving the Hawks is like dating a beautiful woman with unbearable bad breath! I can’t tell if I’m kissing her on the mouth or her ass, her azz is so pretty, I can’t tell if she’s coming or going?

drmaryb (*_*)

January 31st, 2011
8:42 pm

* no homo

O'Brien

January 31st, 2011
9:15 pm

Thanks for the link lewis. Some of the good stuff from Rick Sund (from the Hoopsworld article).

If you can get 50, that’s generally home court and that can get you through the first round and you’re kind of one of the elite teams.

Chemistry is so important, and if you look at San Antonio, in some ways they’re analogous to us,” Sund explains. “They got through the first round last year and got swept in four. We got through the first round last year and got swept in four. They didn’t really make any major changes and we didn’t make any major changes.

When you’re all-pro you’re one of the top 15 players in the league.

They’re a more veteran team than us, we started the season with three starters who are 24 or younger in Horford, Josh and Marvin. Joe, Bibby and Jamal .are all in their primes, so that combination is good. But we think continuity and chemistry are important for us, just as they have been for San Antonio.”.

JJ was third team all NBA, so based on that recognition, he would be top 15.

How was that Chemistry last year? And how about the fact that the Spurs know they have the players to win a title because they have done it before. What do the Hawks know, except in the face of playoff adversity, they hang their heads.

And Bibby is in his prime? I wonder what Woody and LD would say about that…

O'Brien

January 31st, 2011
9:51 pm

From Marc Stein’s power rankings, Hawks are ranked 14th. Said Marc;

“Joe Johnson couldn’t be giving them more than he has in January: 26.0 ppg on 50.4 percent shooting. Who out there, though, sees the Hawks having homecourt advantage in a single round of the playoffs this time?”.

I think Rick Sund does.

Jae Evolution

January 31st, 2011
9:59 pm

Lakers may be looking to make a move before the deadline? And with a very tough week, it could look to finalize them making a trade.

Also Brandon Bass on the Magic just hurt his ankle, so I definitely think if they want any chance in the postseason they make a move before the deadline.

We can’t keep having these low-scoring 4th qtrs when we have an all-offense lineup, that doesn’t make sense. We need to make a move that involves us getting a starting quality PG that can penetrate and PLAY D, if not the Bibby/Crawford backcourt will lose us games from here until we lose in the playoffs. Bibby makes the attempt to play D, but he is unable to, Jamal plays D, but gets lazy and unmotivated, I can’t even count how many blown assignments he leaves in transition…SMH.

Let’s at least get some talks going Sund!

KevinM

January 31st, 2011
10:02 pm

Rick, the Spurs have a PG……the Hawks don’t.

Winning 50 games doesn’t make you elite…ask Utah.

Never going to the ECF doesn’t make you elite….

And how in this world does Sund think Bibby is in his prime? OMG, if he thinks that, we will never ever get a PG in here. We are in serious trouble.

And is it possible that Marvin, Josh and Al are only 24? It seems like they have been around a lot longer. Man, do they need someone to mentor them, someone to show them how to win big games.

The only comparison I make between the Spurs and Hawks is Duncan vs. Horford. This team can ill afford to lose Al for any amount of time similar to Duncan, who can step it up from time to time. I have always considered Al our Tim Duncan who could be compared to him if he got the ball more often in his sweet spots. IMO, Al should be getting 13-15 shots a game. Last week , he got 10 shots a game and that just isn’t enough involvement in the offense.
I told Grandad that losing Smoove would be no big deal and that was because we had Al to fall back on, but it should be able to bring you back some value. I don’t think I value Josh that high as I used to, because his decision making is still in question.
If it brought us Billups, you gotta make that trade. Give them Bibby or Teague too. We need a PG in the worse way. Joe needs a legit running mate.
You have to go get him the same time Anthony is dealt because Denver can’t afford to let Melo walk away without compensation. Had Cleveland known more, you know the trade winds this time last year would have been crazy to see what you could get for LeBron. Melo isn’t as valuable, but he is still a top player. But here we have Sund who continues to like this team.

He must not value consistency in any way.

KevinM

January 31st, 2011
10:05 pm

OB, give him 5 more years of playoff experience and Joe will never get a 50% FG clip in the playoffs. That’s how critical he is to the success of this team come playoff time. He has to be elite when it counts….there has to be more to this team than praying that the 25 ft Smoove jumper or the Marvin 3 pointer or the Bibby wing-it-up there shot goes in.

lewis

January 31st, 2011
10:07 pm

MC,

in the past i’ve blamed you for not being enough of a fan, but i’d like to thank you for not being an arrogant fanboy like Frank Isola, and i quote;

“Marvin Williams did a lot of damage. He’s responsible for Amar’e being injured and he “mushed” Shawne Williams in the back of the head”

‘Knicks-Hawks Feb. 16 in NYC & March 6 in ATL (plenty of good seats available). It’s on…it’s so on. I’ll personally shut down J’amal. Again

“If you are scoring at home, Jamal Crawford has missed his last nine shots since fist bumping the evil NY media at center court.”

“The Atlanta Hawks are officially awful…What a fake team. No heart. No guts. They’ve been outscored 21-7 in last seven minutes”

“Since Jamal Crawford fist bumped me & Berman of the Post at center court he’s missed 5 straight shots. At least someone from NY is defending”

disgusting from a media type

Willy

January 31st, 2011
10:12 pm

This is bush league nonsense – the Hawks will not be serious contenders until they hire a coach who commands respect from his players. Passion from players should result in wins not in suspensions and fines.

Melvin

January 31st, 2011
10:20 pm

“The Lakers officially entered crisis mode Monday, when general manager Mitch Kupchak told NBA.com that the recent poor play by the two- time defending champions may drive him to make a trade to shake up an underachieving roster. ”

Now how is it, the GM of the back to back champs can say his team need to make a trade and the GM of a team that got swept in their last two playoffs appearences (in historic fashion) can say things like “We like where we are” and “we like our core players”. Bold moves separate the Champs from the Chumps…

Melvin

January 31st, 2011
10:32 pm

Magic lost to the Grizzlies

jason

January 31st, 2011
10:33 pm

ohhh marvin yoour better thannn datt. stopp fighting with d-league scrub like shaun williams

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
10:41 pm

Sund. Thank you for finally telling us how you really think..In a NUT SHELL “THE ATLANTA HAWKS ARE TOTALLY SCREWED”..YOU HAVE NOW BECOME OFFICIALLY THE WORST GM IN HAWKS HISTORY…I REALLY FEEL FOR HAWKS FANS….

Sund= 31+ years of …………………………………………YAWN…………………………..

Oh one more thing RICK SUND.Put down the darn PIPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We aint buying your bullshizzel….

O'Brien

January 31st, 2011
10:50 pm

Melvin,

The Lakers have deep pockets, and the Hawks dont.

Thanks to the Grizz for handling the Magic tonight.

The bad thing is, the more games the Magic lose, is the more likely that they will make a trade.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
10:51 pm

Comparing the Spurs to the Hawks is nuts!!! The Spurs are on pace to win 69 freakin games buba (Sund)…..Is he joking for real???? Just sad…Bow your heads class..43 years of mediocrity….43 more?? Maybe??

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
10:56 pm

“The Hawks are who we thought they were!”

The problem is not LD or the players..It’s the GM and especially Ownership or lack there of. There lies the problem dear Watson……… .

Thanks Sautee. I see your light now…….LOL

Najeh Davenpoop

January 31st, 2011
10:56 pm

Honestly, after reading those Rick Sund quotes, I’m starting to wonder whether the guy that posts here as Rick Sund might actually be the real Rick Sund. Anyone who looks at Bibby and thinks he’s in his prime is smoking some really good sh-t.

slimjr

January 31st, 2011
10:58 pm

‘Loving the Hawks is like dating a beautiful woman with unbearable bad breath! I can’t tell if I’m kissing her on the mouth or her ass, her azz is so pretty, I can’t tell if she’s coming or going?”

@drmaryb
I have been there! LOL………….LOL!

northcyde

January 31st, 2011
11:12 pm

Drew pretty much said everything I, and a few others said, a few days ago. That fight can be turned into a positive for the Hawks, and for Marvin. I’m not mad at him at all for standing up for himself.

northcyde

January 31st, 2011
11:15 pm

“If we can do something that makes our team better we’ll definitely pursue it, but right now I don’t see a trade out there that helps our team and keeps us under the cap. We’ve got to get bang for our buck.”

Yeah Sund . . .

Man, just be real and say that we’re not doing ish, because staying under the cap is PRIORITY #1 for the ASG.

Stop talking in code, like you’re the damn Riddler or something.

Ramon

January 31st, 2011
11:44 pm

Northcyde now you have me wanting to see Batman, lol

Jae Evolution

February 1st, 2011
12:54 am

This team the Clippers man…they just have their own mini-dunk contest every game, I swear.

If we aren’t going to get a PG that guy play D and penetrate, then we need a C that can make up for mistakes, bring in DeAndre Jordan!

Worldwide Clyde

February 1st, 2011
1:24 am

*yawn*

northcyde

February 1st, 2011
1:46 am

Speaking of the Clippers game, I got a seat that I normally pay $50 for, for just $30 on ticketmaster. Click on the Budweiser VIP ticket offer, and they have upper deck tickets for $20, Club Mezzanine level for $30, and lower level for $50.

Plus they have those $7.50 upper deck tickets.

And I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but don’t be surprised if you wake up in the morning, and find out that the Raptors are trapped in Indianapolis because of the snow/ice storm.

They couldn’t leave after the game because of heavy icing in Indy, and that storm is forecast to get much worse tomorrow. If they can’t get out in a few hours, they may never get out in time.

MsDee

February 1st, 2011
2:51 am

Personally, I dont care what our final regular season record will be, JUST AS LONG AS WE CAN AT LEAST MAKE IT TO THE ECF!! The Spurs could very well end up like the Cavs did a couple of season ago with 60+ wins, but if you can’t make it happen like Boston did just last season with ONLY 50 total wins and making it to the FINALS, then who cares!! I want us to LOOK LIKE A PLAYOFF team in the PLAYOFFS, not like we just dont belong!

Wide World of Kitsap Sports » Blog Archive » Marvin: No hard feelings after fracas in New York

February 1st, 2011
3:00 am

[...] Marvin’s coach Larry Drew told the Atlanta Constitution-Journal that the the incident might be good for the team, which is viewed as soft by some around the league. Read the full story here. [...]

Coach D

February 1st, 2011
6:07 am

Duck showing some teeth!!!!!!

who cares

February 1st, 2011
6:28 am

beat his ass sea bass

wordsmithtom

February 1st, 2011
6:33 am

DrMary,
I am enjoying Marvin’s macho. So, now he apologizes and that seems soft. Is if?
I’m recalled the movie “Drumline” about two Atlanta colleges doing a battle of the bands and the college kids involved in that process. In case you’ve not seen it, plot revolves around readying for the annual battle between two powerful rivals. A freshman works his way onto the team despite not being able to read music. He got into a fight with members of the other band in a tuneup to the finals and was suspended. Trying to prove himself and return to the team he did a faceoff with the bands senior leader and the senior admitted: you’re the best. But, you’re not on the team…..

Not to extend much more from this, as Marvin’s case isn’t exactly like the movie, but the movie goes to show a principle in life: If you can’t manage your emotions during crisis, the crisis will manage you. There was a better way for him to lash out: elbo to the midsection, for instance. The fight cost the Hawks 2 games of his services…two games where he won’t be here.

Hopefully, he will learn more appropriate ways of assert and defend his manhood. He’s a young guy with high character. We all know that. Even Jesus got mad…threw the money launderers out of the temple in a tirade. Did he forgive them afterwards? He forgave the soldiers who nailed him to the cross….though we don’t know about the launderers….but, I believe He did.

Marvin made a mistake, he apologized and took responsibility. That’s unmanly??? Ask Jesus.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
6:58 am

Jesus never apologized for anything, he pitied his killers and forgave them, he died for them and you!

Look how much the world appreciates a loving act of mercy, kindness and forgiveness. Those adverbs don’t describe an apology, there is nothing to apologize for. The only person Marvin needs top apologize to is his Coach for pushing him inadvertently, and he did that. Maybe his teammates, but never the oppressor.

I think the wordsmithtom meant to say, “Forgiveness is close to Marvin-ness”
______________________

Some people in this world deserve to be “mushed” in the back of their head.
I actually posted an incredible “reality” post in accordance with my first response, to break it down like a roman numeral, but the bloginator ate it for snacks, it was riveting and passionate, but I could never recapture it now.

It was too raw, too real and probably too deep and inciteful for a blog anyways.
_________________________

Anyway, Thanks for your comments, always appreciated tom.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
7:12 am

Barber Shop Talk!”

wordsmithtom

I’ll re-post my own last line of that diatribe (that’s all it was):

“I’m just playing, but yall know I’m right though!”
___________________________

Its all fun and games – until you get your eyeball poked out!”

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
7:21 am

Get up off of your Gift!

Marvin’s gift is his big butt, next time he should just sit his butt on the back of Shawne William’s head and apply tremendous pressure.
Rick Mahorn has a similar gift, I would like to see Marvin apply his apple bottom to the low post part of his game and back his man down there, develop a back to the basket move, a jump hook or base line dunk inside the paint. He could be that go to guy down there with Horford and create some 4th Qrtr offensive options. That would really help this team in scoring droughts, he is a great FT shooter. Create his own shots and be that aggressor. We need that sorely.

Horford has a face up game in the post mainly. Fundamental basketball skill have become an endangered species in the NBA. These kids are not really students of the Naismith Game. They should really learn something else besides Dunking and Bullying and Trash Talking. The game would be a lot more entertaining to watch. Enough with all the antics – really.

wordsmithtom

February 1st, 2011
7:53 am

“learn something besides Dunking and Bullying and Trash Talking. The games would be a lot more entertaining to watch.

Can I get an AMEN!

One thing I learned young about handling bullies. You don’t threaten to kick their azz…you do it. Mohammed Ali kicked a lot of azz…but he made friends with most of his opponents….deep rich friendships…..Just sayin’..

but yea, don’t talk about it….DO IT

terrell

February 1st, 2011
8:17 am

Trade rumor: Josh to GS? Cant see the ASG moving Smith.

Willie Coyote

February 1st, 2011
8:21 am

To Ronin in regard to your 1/31/11 4:41 pm post…

Your 10 year old’s friends are probably a worse influence on him than Josh or Marvin are. People kill me blaming athletes for being bad influences when it is the kid’s peers that pressure them to do wrong and the parent’s lack of attention that allows it to go on.

lewis

February 1st, 2011
8:21 am

This team is going nowhere as long as Drew thinks its okay to play Jamal and Bibby together at the end of games. You just don’t do that under any circumstance. Jamal or Bibby, not both. Anyone who knows anything about basketball should be able to see clearly that there aren’t enough shots to go around for Joe, Bibby and Jamal. If Joe is going to take the majority of shots regardless, why play 2 defensive liabilities alongside him? I’d honestly be fine with neither and Joe running the point. Its time for Marvin to start closing out games i’m sick of this small ball gimmick offense.

4th Quarter Strategies –
Joe @ Point, offense runs through Al.
Jamal @ Point, offense runs through Al.

Mark

February 1st, 2011
8:23 am

Raptors are about to get demolished…if Drew learns how to properly substitute in the 4th Q.

terrell

February 1st, 2011
8:37 am

Why on earth would the Clippers give up Deandre Jordan? With Bledsoe,Gordon,Deandre, and Must see BG, they’re a sf away from being legit for the next 10 years. Might give up Randy Foye though. How bout Marvin for Foye and a throw in?

terrell

February 1st, 2011
8:38 am

Foye and Rasual Butler/Craig Smith.

lewis

February 1st, 2011
8:42 am

Get used to this roster, unless you can, and i quote Rick Sund “find a deal that makes our team better and keeps us under the cap.” Look for Sund to let Jamal walk away for nothing. Expect Bibby to be replaced with an old, non-penetrating PG with no leadership abilities. Expect Jason Collins to go somewhere else because even he can’t tolerate coming off the bench behind Haha Pachulia. Expect Larry Drew and his useless staff to be back. Continue to expect 3 guard 2 power forward lineups in the 4th quarter.

That said, look for Hawks to make a move for a center/pg after the new CBA is negotiated

John

February 1st, 2011
8:45 am

Why is it ok for hockey players and even baseball players to get in fights, in regards to public perception, but every time a basketball player gets in a pushing match, they are labeled thugs? I just don’t get it. I have no problem with what Marvin did. He has not acted like that in the past and it will probably be a while before it happens again.

terrell

February 1st, 2011
8:49 am

You know why John. If you dont, go look in a mirror. Sad, but true.

Rick Sund

February 1st, 2011
9:11 am

As long as our team scores more then the opponent each night we will be just fine…..

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
9:33 am

LOL @ one fracas changing perception of our team.

You change the perception by CONSISTENTLY being PHYSICAL and COMMITTING HARD FOULS like the Celtics do.

We are a finesse team and that’s it. The identity of this team has NOT changed

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
9:56 am

Count me in for the Smoove for Curry/Biedrins trade. Throw in Teague.

You get a real PG, solid Center, and can slide Horford to PF and Marvin can finally step it up

O'Brien

February 1st, 2011
9:56 am

JeJe,

I had a chuckle as well. The Marvin fight might bring the team closer together, but it will not change the perception of the Hawks as being soft.

How many dunks, layups, and “And Ones” do we give up? How often do we play physical in your face defense?

Not only are we a finesse (jump shooting) team, but our guys are quiet and reserved (Bibby, JJ, Marvin, Teague and Jamal come to mind).

Josh is the only guy who plays with that intensity and fire (although it gets him in trouble sometimes). I have heard that Etan is physical as well, but we never see him on the court.

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
9:57 am

O’Brien,

Exactly. Everyone on the team is quiet and timid. Even Horford seems a bit reticent at times.

The fight didn’t bring the team together. People were saying no players were around Marvin and he was doing his own thing – no homo

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
10:01 am

“Sund’s comments remind me of Big Brother in 1984. He talks only in positives, ambiguity in everything he says, a puppet who answers to the all powerful Spirit Group”

LOL!

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
10:03 am

Bibby is in his prime?

LOL!!!!

Maybe NINE years ago

ICECOLD

February 1st, 2011
10:19 am

The Spurs didnt automatically become a good team.. they wasnt a good team until they got tim duncan.. then all of a sudden they got better.. I guess they figure Al Horford is our TIm Duncan, and Josh Smith is our David Robison…

I remember Sunds said he wanted to be like Detroit, but Detroit only has one champioship… and hasnt been the same since…. I dont want them to be like that..

I do believe Joe Johnson is a true superstar when he want to be.. the only thing is.. he seems like he cant really take over in the forth quarter, or hit the game winning shot!! , somebody gotta step up for the hawks and really take over in the fourth quarter…

it doesnt make any since to run motion the whole game, then the fourth quarter you want to run iso-joe… keep running motion, EVEN HARDER, make the ball move faster so they will get tired in the fourth quarter so other teams wont run the score up., ( NO MORE ISO) AT ALL!!!

THE DIFFFERENCE BETWEEN OTHER TEAMS AND OTHER CITIES, THEY DONT FALL IN LOVE WITH THE PLAYERS ON THEIR TEAMS UNLESS THEY ARE SUPERSTARS!!!.. the Hawks hold on to players to long thats not doing nothing, then when they have one or two games where they look like they reach their potential… we dont want to trade them no more because they have gotten to close to them… MARVINZ ZAZA, EVANS, ARE THE ONLY PLAYERS THAT I WANT TO SEE GO, AND I EVEN HAVE SECOND GUESSES ABOUT THAT… AND I KNOW IM NOT THE ONLY ONE!!! ( EXCEPT ZAZA, HE GOTTA GO !!!!!!!!!!!)

we dont need a big trade..We just need a free agent thats going to trully wanna make the Atlanta Hawks better, not players that just need a team for the minimum

( josh Powell- Came to get more playing time, because the Great Lakers wasnt giving him any, but the Hawks, oh yeah i deserve it. )
( Etan Thomas- Nobody else wanted me, I figure I just go to the Hawks and chill out)
( Jordan Crawford- Well, I got drafted here, forced to watch a team that doesnt even have a ring, if you not gon use me, dont draft me)
Pape Sye- I dont even know where I am)

Damien Wilkins seams like he was the only one that wasnt forced to be here, and that trully wanted to be here, and thats only because his uncle is here!!!

those are just my thoughts, in the end, go hawks!!!

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
10:25 am

Rondo: 15 assists in 1 half

Bibby: 15 assists in 8 game.

Don’t worry though – Bibby is in his prime!

Trojan

February 1st, 2011
10:44 am

Sund translated: We are doing nothing because of the salary cap. We should look for positives of being an average team without a direction.

ReddJonn68

February 1st, 2011
11:08 am

Did anyone actually watch “the fight” Marvin couldn’t even keep his balance when throwing punches at the Knicks player. LoL Marvin needs a balance coach!

Rufus1

February 1st, 2011
11:35 am

The devil we Know(Bibby)..The Devil we don’t(Teague)

People defend Bibby because he is the “Devil they know”…They know his history for hitting big shot and playing big, in big games. THAT IS NOT THE BIBBY WE HAVE!!!!

The Bibby we have is OLD, SLOW and has been missing BIG SHOTS, in BIG GAMES. He is not the Bibby of 7 years ago, please stop giving the benefit of the doubt. He has been brutal recently and no one can tell me TEAGUE WOULD BE WORSE.

We have Sam Cassell as our starting PG and ASG will not stand for this much longer. LD promised to develop Teague and bibby isn’t good enough to justify his lack of playing time.

I EXPECT A CHANGE AFTER THE ALLSTART BREAK.

STRETCH

February 1st, 2011
11:41 am

Question,

Is Bibby related to Mini Me?

ILL-Logical

February 1st, 2011
11:51 am

Caught an interview on NBA TV with Jerome Jurenovich -not the poofed up,bespectacled version on display on Fox Sports South- where he was very adamant that Hawks management was not going to make any moves because of their finances. Sobering.

superiorblogman

February 1st, 2011
11:55 am

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4zgu25t

Hawks get Devin Harris

Nets get Teague, Zaza, and Mo

Answer to our PG problems

SteveW

February 1st, 2011
12:09 pm

Too me, it’s beginning to look like a Magic – Hawks matchup, in some order of Homecourt advantage. I think we may can take them, especially if Teague develops. If not, I don’t like Bibby vs. Jameer and Arenas at all.

But Chicago might swoon. They gotta play alot of road games from here on out. It may affect them. We’ll see.

SteveW

February 1st, 2011
12:10 pm

TT with the Bulls may be a great coach however, we’ll see. But it doesn’t look like Boston has missed him to badly.

bob from account temps

February 1st, 2011
12:36 pm

ronin – please do not take your sone to a hockey game. inbetween fighting and swearing thay play a little hockey.

bob from account temps

February 1st, 2011
12:38 pm

maybe marvin needs one of those copper wrist bands sold on late night tv to help with his balance.

Double Zero Eight

February 1st, 2011
12:58 pm

Sund and ASG are content with mediocrity. Do not
look for a trade of any significance. If a trade is made,
it will be for the sake of “saying a trade was made”. It will
most likely be for an over the hill center, or unproven PG.

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
1:10 pm

The Tape Don’t Lie!

But, bloggers lie daily, even in the face of video tape. Rodney King got his azz whupped by law enforcement after a routine traffic stop. He was defenseless, crouched and white people saw the tape and said the force was not excessive. Black people saw the tape and saw civil rights violation, no due process but judgement and execution by court stewards (the police), they saw excessive and un-necessary abuse of power at the rate of 5 on 1, they saw flashbacks of fire hoses and attack dogs. Right or wrong, most people see what they want to see:
____________________________

This blogger saw the Marvin Fight Tape and he saw:

“The fight didn’t bring the team together. People were saying no players were around Marvin and he was doing his own thing – no homo”
___________________________

How does a blogger know if the fracas didn’t bring the team together? How could he? Does he socialize with the team and know this as factual?

Did he not see Al and Josh in the middle of the tape, separating the two and protecting their teammate? What video tape was he watching?
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Explain that. Fight night is over, move along, there is nothing to see here. Just a heated battle and a hard fought win. Lost in it all is, Horford ‘mushed’ Amare’s knee on that monster block, because he IS that type player! Oh yeah! And we won the game and the fight!

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
1:15 pm

WTF is the issue with these owners’ finances?

SELL THE THRASHERS ALREADY. THE TEAM HAS NO PAYROLL. JUST GET RID OF THEM IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD BOTH TEAMS

HOW DO U HAVE 823 OWNERS AND CAN’T AFFORD 2 CENTS INTO THE LUXURY TAX

THEY SAID THEY’D GO INTO LT FOR RIGHT PLAYER.

THERE’S 500 PLAYERS OUT THERE AND I’M SURE SOME ARE WORTH IT

THIS FRONT OFFICE IS SUCH A JOKE

EVERY SINGLE PERSON

OUR GMS, OWNERS

JESUS

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
1:22 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXsQTPP-2gQ&feature=related

LOL @ this video

The owners in the background courtside probably don’t even know the names of half the people on our team

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
1:23 pm

I was a bit pessimistic about our prospects of winning a ring this year, but Sund is in fact right and Bibby is in his prime, the sky’s the limit

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
1:26 pm

” JUST GET RID OF THEM IF YOU CAN’T AFFORD BOTH TEAMS”
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Just get rid of them how? Stand in front of phillips with a sign and tin cup, and say, “Hockey Team for Sale – They’re Really Good!” Maybe some billionaire will walk up and put the money in that tin cup. After all, they’re really good.

Or maybe the blogger can make an offer.

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
1:26 pm

*if Sund

FIRE SUND

Big Ray

February 1st, 2011
1:36 pm

Always amusing to have people waiting in the wings for a basketball player to say or do something even remotely controversial.

Hey, just stay home. Don’t go to basketball games. Don’t engage in sports at all. I’m not condoning fighting or obscene gestures. But if you were taking your child to a professional sports game for the purposes of teaching them how to be an upstanding member of society, then you’re an idiot and a failure as a parent.

Sports = entertainment, dumba$$…

JeJe

February 1st, 2011
1:37 pm

Smoove plans to appeal fine because others have done the same.

That’s exactly what I said on Saturday.

*SHOOUH*

ASHCAN.

February 1st, 2011
2:00 pm

@RONIN,in time your kids will be exposed to a lot more than that.Its the world we live in.Your comment sounds as if your surprised a person can fight or grab his HUSH YO MOUTH.

John

February 1st, 2011
2:08 pm

Terrell,

I was asking a rhetorical question. I know why.

ASHCAN.

February 1st, 2011
2:08 pm

@Ronin,just blind fold them that will work.Can’t believe people response from a fight and grabbing nuts,grandpa do it all the time whats the big deal? BIG BEN grabed his nuts in front of a little white girl in a bathroom stall.

Surprise of the Day

February 1st, 2011
2:10 pm

Jeje using the word “reticent.”

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February 1st, 2011
2:30 pm

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kwooden

February 1st, 2011
2:43 pm

What Marvin said makes a lot of sense from what I saw. The game had gotten really chippy because the HAWKS had been giving NY a pretty good beating for 3 quarters. Looking at the game again it reminded me of the first game against Miami in the Playoffs two years ago. Smoove had about 3 highlight dunks and Miami looked terrible. Then Wade was like the HAWKS were trying to embaress us and from that point on the entire series was physical. This game seemed to work the same way.
Marvin, actually got a weak punch/shove from Fields on the same play that the fight started. He could have gone after Fields, but Williams happened to be closer I think. Hopefully Marvin decides to continue to attack the basket and play tough on the boards like he did this game. The HAWKS can really use that kind of attitude. LD certainly sees we need it, from the comments he made.

GO HAWKS!

Big Ray

February 1st, 2011
2:52 pm

I agree with you a 100% on your last post.

kwooden

February 1st, 2011
2:53 pm

Nets, just signed a guy off of Sy’s D-League team Orien Greene, another PG/SG. It may be nothing but could be a sign of Harris being expendable. Hopefully SUND is on it.

Big Ump

February 1st, 2011
2:54 pm

Big Ray

I agree withyou a 100% on your last post.

Geemack

February 1st, 2011
3:36 pm

The Hawks remind me of a ” very poor man’s” version of this years the Lakers minus the Championships.

They have the ability to be a great defensive team, but are too lazy to commit defensively full time.

Their big men result to shooting jumpers against the elite teams (Bos, Miami, SA, & Dallas)

They are liable to get blown out by some of the worst teams in the NBA even at home.

They will get big leads on teams, and allow them to comeback even-though they are more talented.

However, we see why the Lakers are bored with the regular season (3 straight finals appearances, and 2 titles).

What’s the Hawks excuse?

tim

February 1st, 2011
3:44 pm

Marvin needs to get his act together on the court….or it’s bye bye.

Geemack

February 1st, 2011
3:55 pm

Big Ray

February 1st, 2011
1:36 pm

Great post big Ray.

Grandad

February 1st, 2011
4:03 pm

ReddJonn68

Marv did not lose his balance on his swing,
he was grabbed from behind by Landry Fields.
The discription above by MC is not entirely accurate either.
LF grabbed Marv SW threw a sucker punch and whiffed
that could have knocked Marv out while LF was holding his arms.
Marv then threw a roundhouse that missed.
No punches connected.
Only Marvin’s shove after the kiss.
SW actually threw two punches.

Grandad

February 1st, 2011
4:28 pm

From previous conversations;
I would never take my children or grandchildren to a sporting event in an effort to teach life lessons,
however, neither do I take them expecting to see professional [men] act like juvenile delinquents.
As for the word thug;
I agree, let’s not call them thugs. Let us call them “unprofessional”. Not so much for fighting,
but for behavior not befitting or maintaing the standards set forth by his employers.
*[aka the NBA]
Josh et al (in my opinion) needs to act like a man. Many on this board whine & claim that he is immature and childish yet defend him for “coarse” behavior just because it’s accepted in some culture ["the ATL"] according to some. Well – two things I will add; (1) he’s supposed to be a Capt
of this team which carries responsibility. (2) You cannot have it both ways, deriding Josh immaturity
on one front and cheering his “street savvy” on the other when he looks foolish to other cultures than your own.

Grandad

February 1st, 2011
4:31 pm

*Josh’s

drmaryb (*_*)

February 1st, 2011
4:41 pm

For Real Though!

Yeah, I razz JeJe a lot, like I do my brothers. But, that dude is a true Hawks fan and he makes the blog fun and entertaining. Top 7 blogger? IDK ’bout all that, but I’m glad JeJe is on here and I hope the problem is fixed so he can blog from the comforts of his lovely home. Everyone deserves that privilege – this is the Free World – right?
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JeJe, man … From the bottom of my heart – I got LOVE for you, man.

We all want the same thing on here – A Winner in Atlanta!

These fans, this city – we deserve a Winner! Why not us?
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We just need hungry owners and a Real GM! Not some bobble head drawing a fat check. We need Jerry Buss!

ga peach

February 1st, 2011
5:22 pm

I try not to see everything in black and white but some of you are so brave when you are behind a keyboard, with your racist code language SMH.. The same people talkin about hawks being thugs because of a fight will be the same people to take your son to see a hockey game when they are trying to beat somebody brains in. What do you tell them then?? OOH THE HYPOCRISY sports is emotional, and competitive and sometimes the aggression and andrelanine just takes over. I’m not condoning the fight but I’m not going to crucify Marvin either. Say what u want about the hawks they are character guys u don’t hear about any of them in the news for anything illegal or being a jerk. I guess the problem this team has with SOME of the fans is they are not enough here goes my code word” SURBURBAN OR MAINSTREAM PLAYERS”. GO hawks SHOCK THE WORLD AGAIN!!!

andrea

February 2nd, 2011
8:56 am

that was something , i had never seen marvin get like that. cant wait for the game against them again on the 16th. they say no hard feelings but whatever.

WreckingBall

February 2nd, 2011
12:07 pm

MARVIN SHOULD HAVE BEEN KICKED OUT OF THE LEAGUE FOR HIS PARTICIPATION IN THE FIGHT THE OTHER NIGHT. THIS IS NOT THE PR MOVE THAT THE HAWKS NEEDED RIGHT NOW. THE FIGHT THE OTHER NIGHT WAS A PUBLIC RELATIONS NIGHTMARE FOR THE HAWKS AND IT REALLY GAVE THE HAWKS A “BLACK EYE” IN THAT THE HAWKS HAD BEEN CLOSING IN ON THE HEAT AND WERE ONLY 2.5 GAMES OUT OF FIRST PLACE. THEN THE FIGHT COMES AND WE START TO DRIFT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE DIVISION LEADERS. IF THE HAWKS NEEDED TO FIGHT THEY WOULD PUT ON BOXING GLOVES AND BECOME PROFESSIONAL BOXERS. MARVIN MIGHT AS WELL FIGHT SINCE ITS OBVIOUS THAT HE CANT PLAY BASKETBALL. IF YOU DONT WANT TO PLAY BASKETBALL, SIT YOUR BUTT DOWN AND RETIRE AND GET OFF THE TEAM. YOU ARE NOT DOING ANYONE A FAVOR BY KEEPING A ROSTER SPOT THAT YOU ARE CONTRIBUTING NOTHING TOWARDS.

JohnRocker

February 2nd, 2011
12:12 pm

Starvin Marvin cant wait to pounce on the next defenseless player who either accidently steps on his toe or either elbows him in the ribs by mistake. Marvin is a punk and should be selling dope at the street corner instead of playing professional basketball for the Hawks.

ZacheryGoldsmith

February 2nd, 2011
12:50 pm

I think the Hawks are going to surprise everyone this year and bring home the LARRY O’BRIEN CHAMPIONSHIP GOLD TROPHY. The Hawks are playing the elite teams BEAUTIFULLY THIS SEASON because they themselves are an elite team. Look at the records and judge for yourself. The problem with the hawks credibility is the same as the atlanta falcons. Just because the media wants to ignore you doesnt make you irrelevant. THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN ELITE NBA TEAMS WHO ARE THOUGHT OF THIS YEAR TO WIN THE TITLE AND IF YOU INCLUDE THE HAWKS THE NUMBER IS SEVEN [SA, Boston, Lakers, Heat, Hawks, Magic and Maverics]. Thats it. The NBA crown will be won by one of those 7 clubs. Everybody else take the rest of the summer off.

SavageBeast

February 2nd, 2011
2:17 pm

Marvin sucker punched shawne williams (Marvin’s cousin) in a friendly disagreement among first cousins. Marv elected not to lose his balance on his swing, as he was grabbed from behind by Landry Fields.
The discription above by MC is not entirely accurate either. Marvin was working on getting his roundhouse punch off as soon as he decided which punch he would throw from his garden variety assortment of punches. Marvin also planned to throw a windmill punch if the situation called for it. LF grabbed Marv SW threw a sucker punch and whiffed that could have knocked Marv out while LF was holding his arms. Marv then threw the roundhouse punch but that missed. No punches connected. Only Marvin’s shove after the kiss. SW actually threw two punches. Marvin threw his hands up in victory and walked off the court as new heavyweight champion of the world.

BusterDouglas

February 2nd, 2011
3:46 pm

Marvin Williams is now booking his next upcoming 10 fights/bouts on nba courts all over america. I’m not sure who will be all the undercards, but stay tuned for details as each fight progressively gets closer.

domwilkins23

February 2nd, 2011
4:36 pm

If you’re an Atlanta/Georgia Sports fan and want to talk with other fans, check out our NEW message board.

http://www.atlsportsnation.com/forum

We have team forums for the Falcons, Bulldogs, Hawks, Braves, Yellow Jackets, Thrashers, etc. Please register and post! Be apart of a huge site in the early days of existence. See ya there!

slim

February 2nd, 2011
6:13 pm

Buddy Grizzard what are you smoking

MARTIN

February 3rd, 2011
5:33 pm

Trade Marvin Williams and Zaza for Steve Nash. TODAY please

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