Knicks at Atlanta Hawks: Can they stop Felton-Amar’e pick-and-roll?
When the Hawks played at New York on Nov. 27, the Knicks had 88 offensive possessions. According to L.D., New York ran 60 pick-and-rolls.
I don’t have to tell my blog people the Hawks, among the worst teams in the league at defending the play, can expect more of the same tonight from New York’s Raymond Felton-Amar’e two-man game.
“When we stick with our principles and our proper techniques in defending it and we are all on the same page, we seem to do a pretty good job,” Drew said. “But the minute there is a breakdown with just one guy it is like a chain reaction.”
As you might expect for one of the league’s best offensive teams, the Knicks rate highly on the metrics you expect to be associated with pick-and-rolls.
“The key with defending their pick-and-roll is going to be our ability to get up on the ball,” L.D. said. “In all of our coverages involving the pick-and-roll, the guard has to be able to get up on the ball knowing that he’s going to get hit, he’s going to be late getting to Felton coming off [screen]. It is kind of a double-edged sword. We have got to be able to do a good job containing Felton after the screen but at the same time we have to do not a good job, but a great job, affecting Amare’s roll to the basket.
“The last time we played them I thought we did an above-average job in defending them. They surround them with shooters; if we are tardy getting back to Felton, if we are tardy getting back to Amar’e on the roll, it forces the other guys on the perimeter to collapse and have to help. That’s what gets you because they’ve got Galinari spotting up, Chandler [Note: He's out tonight with a calf injury] spotting up. Fields can make a three, Douglas can come in and make a three.”
Marvin’s back
Marvin is in the starting lineup. L.D. said he wants to quickly get him back up to speed.
“I am pretty much going to let him loose,” Drew said. “He is going to have to give me the fist when he gets winded. I know his wind is not where it was before he got hurt but he is going to have to get back in a rhythm. With his size and his ability to make shots, I just thought it would be more of a benefit for us.
The more he plays, the more he will get back into a rhythm. Hopefully like tonight with his matchup he can kind of get into a rhythm. As we move closer to the All-Star break, I am going to need him.”
Bibby’s fine
Bibby is in the lineup after getting banged on his left hand by Keyon Dooling Wednesday at Milwaukee.
“I’ve always had strong bones since I was a kid, so that’s a good thing,” he said.
“He will probably get it whacked again,” L.D. said. “That is always the case when you have those kind of injuries.”
Damien’s happy
Damien Wilkins is obviously pleased to stick with the Hawks. He got the call late last night and said he was nervous to answer the phone when his agent’s name popped up on his caller I.D.
“It takes a lot of pressure off of me,” he said. “I can sleep better now.”
He had an interesting answer when I asked him if he was happy to stick around not just because of his his affection for the Hawks, but also because he thinks this team can make a serious run:
It’s up to us how well we focus and how consistent and focused we can be. Even from watching from afar and paying attention to this team since it was in my backyard, you always felt like this team could do some things if they really just locked in and focused on the task at hand. When we do those things and we go out and we play hard and play with a focused mentality and we play confident and believe in each other and execute on both ends of the floor, then we are a tough team to beat. But when we come in and play like we think we are better than we are, that’s when complacency seeps in. And then we lose like we did ti New Orleans, a game that humbles you and a game like Milwaukee that humbles you. That shows you are not as good as you think you are and there’s a lot of work ahead. You can’t take any teams lightly or for granted.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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O'Brien
January 28th, 2011
7:20 pm
Lets go hawks
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
7:24 pm
It’s game time!!!
lewis
January 28th, 2011
7:33 pm
get it done we got a break without wilson cnhalder
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
7:35 pm
Four blogs in a single day?
MC, are you getting tired of typing?
lewis
January 28th, 2011
7:36 pm
oh yeah, really happy with the amount of blogs coming keep it up
Blast
January 28th, 2011
7:40 pm
MC, The Blog Man. Folks can’t keep up with u.
Will the Knicks sell out Philips tonight?
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
7:45 pm
pulled that chair
terrell
January 28th, 2011
7:46 pm
This just in:
WE NEED A PG! If we’re going to continue to play Bibby extended min at point, we might as well play JJ there. All Bibby does is hand it off to Joe, and stands at the 3 point line anyway. Not to mention, the low number of assists. I know, I know, he’s clutch or whatever, but when you score 12 points and give up 30, those big 3’s are meaningless. Id go with JJ/Jamal/Mo/Josh/Al. Bring Bibby off the bench with Marvin. If Mo comes off the bench with Bibby, the bench is weakened. Now I commend Bibby for guttin it out, but the guy just doesnt have the legs to be a starter in this league anymore. And btw, I’m about tired of Josh at the 3. He’s a huge mismatch, but if he’s going to keep shooting jumpers, the mismatch favors the opposing team.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
7:48 pm
pass the damn ball joe
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
7:49 pm
AND111111111111111!!!!11
El Bravo
January 28th, 2011
7:50 pm
Probably a let down game for the Knicks after their W against the Heat…
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
7:50 pm
smith looks like he gets fouled every time he goes to the hoop… not sure if its just acting or not
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
7:50 pm
“we like hot sauce in Italy too”
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
7:54 pm
damn can we get some fouls
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
Hawks working hard early in the game
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
7:56 pm
yes sir.. boys workin..
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
damn josh gotta sit
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
bad call
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
7:57 pm
thats a weak call w/ how physical this game is being played..
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
7:59 pm
dantoni looks like a douche
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
8:00 pm
Awful call on Josh.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:02 pm
oh man, jamal!!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
lmao @ Zaza
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:03 pm
lmao zaza left horford hanging
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:04 pm
damn crawford!!
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
8:04 pm
Jamal is on a mission against his old team…LOL
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:04 pm
Heart Check!
Will someone box- out Turiaf? He had the same open heart surgery that Etan Thomas had and he plays with more heart!
J-Quick is balling! There goes that man!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
joe got fouled no call
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
Good energy in the 1st qtr by the Hawks…
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:05 pm
Hawks gonna have to step out on Williams.. he can hit from deep..
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
Great quarter, Hawks!
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
8:06 pm
Jamal hit a couple of nice shots, but I won’t forget that awful display of “ole” defense.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:07 pm
TCB!
Hawks taking care of biz-ness in that 1st Qrtr!
Let’s Go!
Bob
January 28th, 2011
8:08 pm
French’s Crunchy Onion Chicken!!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
LD,bench Zaza. He’s consistently getting moving screen calls.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:09 pm
please box out turiaf
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:10 pm
ZaZa can fck up a wet dream! Two turns already!
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:10 pm
fs can we not get a foul??
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:10 pm
DUNK THE BALL JOSH
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:10 pm
Zaza = the BIG stiff.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
When I said yesterday that the Hawks are best when they run the ball through the post, I forgot to mention that Zaza in the post doesn’t qualify.
Momentum is shifting the Knicks way, sparked by Zaza’s inability to make a point blank shot in the post.
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
Now THAT was some awful defense!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:12 pm
wow is josh the only shot blocker on the team? other players assume that he will contest everywhere drive while they could at least try to foul or block
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:13 pm
This is basically the Knick’s bench playing now… and they’re only down by 4. The moment we put our bench in, the other team goes on a scoring streak and on come the starters 1 minute later.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:14 pm
Nice play call by LD, to run a post up for Al out of the timeout. Keep doing that.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
there go josh with his dumb turnover
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drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
Time Out!
Knicks playing like GS Warrirors, running away from defense.
This pace plays to advantage Hawks!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:15 pm
Josh with that long pass again. Damien!!!!!
O'Brien
January 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
We complain about Marvin making $7.5 mil per (and rightfully so). But zaza makes $4.5 mil. For what?
2 buckets, 2 fouls, 2 rebounds, 1 wild shot and 1 moving screen?
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:16 pm
wow jamal u couldnt give the ball to josh
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
Great man to man D by Horford on Amare sparks a fast break opportunity.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
Thats what im talkin about Smoove!!!
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
Frustrated dunk by Josh.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:17 pm
Jamal got fouled that fast break!
Slam Dunk Josh!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
And just as I say that, Amare abuses Horford on two straight possessions.
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:19 pm
Hawks can’t buy a call.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Smoove!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Oh Man!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Yes sir… That’s the Josh I like to see….
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:20 pm
Did you see that Joe to Josh alley-oops? Wow!
What a game!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Hawks have done a good job of two things this quarter — a) creating fast break opportunities by forcing turnovers and bad shots, and b) getting the ball in the post when fast break opportunities weren’t available. Aside from Zaza, every player who has gotten the ball in the post has either converted the shot or created a shot for someone else.
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Take that Josh dunk, Blake Griffin…
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
man, great energy so far this half by the Hawks… keep it up!!!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
Marvin needs to stay off the ground.(If at all possible)
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
they trying to trade hometeam man..
F OUTTA HERE!!!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:21 pm
there you go marvin drive it…his barber must be on vacation
Bob
January 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
ATDHE.net isn’t working… anyone know another site to catch this game?
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:23 pm
A Hawk for Life!
Love him or hate him – Josh ain’t going NOWHERE! Dat is one Nasty Bird! The second coming of Dominique with 5 Tools! Rebound, Assists, Blocks, Dunks and Fire!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Come on Nique. Give us a quote. lol!
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
kiss cam was on amare lol
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Marvin is balling!
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:24 pm
Need I mention Josh caught and dunked that ball with one left hand?
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
Marvin is balling!
Somebody please check Felton.
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
8:25 pm
Hah Josh redeeming himself big time tonight.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:26 pm
Thats Josh’s game 4 ft above ground 15 ft & in, not 23 ft a f-cking away from the basket. Now just keep playing defense don’t fall asleep like we did in Milwaukee!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:26 pm
Try channelsurfing.net
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:26 pm
man the hawks are playing good
Bob
January 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Smith is a lefty Blast… and most people don’t have more than one left hand
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
Joe creates so many defensive 3’s it isnt funny..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
“Hah Josh redeeming himself big time tonight.”
Funny how nobody complains when he throws bad passes (which he has done twice just this quarter, both very avoidable) but when he misses jumpers people complain regardless of whether it was a good shot or not.
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:27 pm
NY has been packing the lane all night long! They should have been called for violations at least 5 times!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:28 pm
http://www.firstrow.net/watch/47540/1/watch-atlanta-hawks-vs-new-york-knicks.html
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:28 pm
Marvin has looked pretty good, too… he has actually finished near the hoop twice.
Bob
January 28th, 2011
8:28 pm
Thanks alot JJM bro
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:29 pm
Damn can Nique put together a complete & punctuated sentence! My God!
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:29 pm
Unstoppable!
Hawks are unstoppable when they rebound and run!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:30 pm
Al from mid range is pretty much as automatic as anything in this league gets.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:30 pm
no prob
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
Hawks have really made an effort as a team to get into passing lanes to force deflections and turnovers in this quarter. That time it was Joe, but it’s been Damien, Josh, Al… seems like pretty much everyone.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:31 pm
Joe looking like Wade tonight playing both sides of the floor, earn that loot JJ! LoL
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:32 pm
Bob,
I know he is a lefty, and I know we only have one left hand. In Blog Speak, I was only making two points in one. That was an incredible pass to catch in one hand and lefty or not, it makes it even more impressive, since most people like me are righty.
Al on fire. He needs to shoot everytime he is open. Said that multiple times.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:32 pm
lmao what is josh doing on the bench
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
lmao JJM
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
WTF 4 offensive reb by 1 dude in 1 possesion thank god he’s a not baller
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
give the ball up Jamal!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
marvin “he push me” lol
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:33 pm
And… there’s the Marvin we have all come to know and love.
Bob
January 28th, 2011
8:34 pm
WTF why Mo have headband??
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:35 pm
@JJM
Why does it always look like someone pushed Marvin!
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
JJM,
Turiaf DID foul Marvin from behind before he even got to S. Williams.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
mo evans think he looks cool with that one leg sleve and headband
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
8:36 pm
Great 60 point half by the Hawks
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:37 pm
marvin williams is just clumsy in my opinion
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:37 pm
If Joe mimics his first half stats, he would have a triple double tonight.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:38 pm
and the ankle socks.. yuck..
get you some mid cuts Mo! country mofo.. boy i tell you..
lol.. give em hell Mo!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:38 pm
That might have been the most consistent effort to create transition opportunities the Hawks have had for a quarter all season.
Before we go celebrating too much, though, let’s not forget that they were up by 11 after 3 against Milwaukee.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:39 pm
I have to give it to Nique, he is just as good as two other great HOF announcers, Bill Walton & Bill Russell! LoL
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
lmao what is mo wearing on his feet?
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
Najeh,
Yeah my wife was saying how JJ was pushing it a lot more tonight. And if he doesn’t push it, then it has to be the bigs. Hope we keep this up.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
8:40 pm
Do The Right Thing!
Aye Spike Lee! This ain’t the Miami Heat! The Hawks share the ball and run an offense. No more Iso Ball unless warranted. Don’t knock the ISO people, it’s a beautiful thing – that ISO! It has a place in the NBA! Teams wish they could ISO! You need players who cane create their own ISH! That’s special!
We got three: Joe, Jamal and Josh … Now, Marvin too… Al is next!
We are becoming unstoppable, unbeatable – right before our eyes!
We should play this way every night:
1st Rebound!
2nd Defend!
3rd Run!
4th Share the ball!
5th Stellar shot selection!
______________________
Inside Peanut Butter – Outside Jelly!
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:41 pm
“Before we go celebrating too much, though, let’s not forget that they were up by 11 after 3 against Milwaukee.”
Hawks need to be mindful of the 3 ball.. they will continue to pull it.. so if guard the line even @ the expense of giving up 2’s..
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:41 pm
JJM..
u know he in them Dr. J’s lol
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:41 pm
Marvin Williams is a about as fluid as a 6′8″ 13 yr old at a middle school dance.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:42 pm
* “so guard the line even @ the expense of giving up 2’s..”
O'Brien
January 28th, 2011
8:51 pm
Bulls vs Magic.
As a Hawks fan, who should I be rooting for?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:53 pm
Joe Johnson is on FIRE.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:53 pm
Man I hope we meet NY in the first round of the playoffs, JJ looks like Kobe tonight
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:53 pm
defensive 3!!! Joe scored anyway..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:53 pm
“Bulls vs Magic.
As a Hawks fan, who should I be rooting for?”
Definitely Bulls. The Hawks have to finish ahead of the Magic this year to get a top 4 seed.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Marvin got away with a walk
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Hawks cannot let up! We need a blowout win to restore confidence!
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Game Over
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
hurt em’ Josh!!! hurt em!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:54 pm
Smoove for 3… with 6 seconds left on the clock and his defender having collapsed inside trying to get the loose ball.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
awww man..
who shot Amare?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
Damn Knicks, that is cold. No timeout?
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
How many times has Marvin hit the floor tonight?
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
Marvin on the ground again. Not good for a bad back.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
8:55 pm
Dang Marvin!!!
Brad
January 28th, 2011
8:56 pm
hahahaha Marvin fell on amare
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:57 pm
Smoove gets it on the perimeter with 18 seconds left, drives it, and scores.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
way to run him off the line Marvin..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
8:58 pm
Knicks zoning up the Hawks that time (or maybe all of them lost their man on D at the same time, who knows) but good Hawks passing beats the zone.
terrell
January 28th, 2011
8:59 pm
Josh is so much better when he’s playing inside. May need to leave him at pf. But then what about Al? Does he want to play center forever?
Blast
January 28th, 2011
8:59 pm
Refs ain’t calling sh!t tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:00 pm
Hawks shot selection really hasn’t been that great in the last few minutes, but they are getting away with it because they are all on fire and the Knicks are completely disinterested in playing D.
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
9:01 pm
This blog has the wrong title. Shoulda been: Can the Knicks guard Joe Johnson?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
Discounted tickets for Hawks-Clippers? I might have to hit that up…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:03 pm
OK Hawks… just because Joe has been unguardable doesn’t mean you have to abandon the post game altogether. Get him the ball closer to the basket so he doesn’t have to work so hard.
ReddJonn68
January 28th, 2011
9:04 pm
Automatic!!!
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:04 pm
love that the Hawks are making the knick shooters take a dribble and hit a mid range jumper..
as i type Galli bombs away..
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:04 pm
man can we play some D and blow this team out lol every time we hit a 3 they come down and hit one
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:05 pm
Will LD start Teague in the 4th qtr???
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:05 pm
Teague bout to get another dnp. He cant be that bad, can he?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
Smoove! (again)
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
wow jamal
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
wow what a lay..
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
mid-range shawty..
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:06 pm
Hawks are hot tonight….
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:07 pm
see and here comes the knicks with a and one….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:08 pm
Considering that the Hawks are up by 20, the starters are playing an awful lot. Can’t complain I guess after the Hawks blew a double digit lead in the last game, but you’d like to think they could chill for most of the 4th and cruise. Not going to happen if they make stupid mistakes like that though.
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:08 pm
No way the Hawks can blow this lead with NY coming off a back to back, can they?
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:09 pm
Why are the Hawks still shootin 3’s when they’re up by 18? Take it to hole.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:10 pm
Maxie Price doubling up i see.. lol
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:11 pm
yall might wanna keep an eye on that Heat score..
down to Detroit @ the crib..
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:12 pm
didnt lebron twist his ankle again
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
As bad as they are, Detroit has played a lot of good teams pretty tough this season (including the Hawks).
Blast
January 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
Josh has made some brilliant plays this game, but he’s also made some bonehead plays.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
Knicks have cut it to 16, mainly because the Hawks have stopped going into the post and are settling for jumpers again.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:13 pm
smh more jumpshots
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
gotta keep it 16 or better.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
Lead down to 14. This is not the time to get lazy. GET THE F-CKING BALL IN THE POST AND QUIT STANDING AROUND ON D.
Bad shot by Smoove.
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
Knicks has slowed the pace of the game down and work this lead down to 12…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
Lead down to 12. This team cannot close people out. I swear to God.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:14 pm
typical hawks man cant hold a lead for nothing
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
This lead started vanishing as soon as they stopped going to the post. As long as they were running it through the post in the half court they were doing fine. COME ON LD CALL A DAMN PLAY.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
needed that shot bad
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
Knicks have scored 33 in this quarter. Hawks have slacked off on D and are not creating nearly as many turnovers as they did in the second quarter.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
9:16 pm
Wow, Bibby goes out of the game for JC, and the Hawks lose control.
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:17 pm
Big 3pt shot by Mo to stop the Knicks run…
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
9:18 pm
Crawford is 1-6 beyond the arc. Should he stop shooting 3s altogether?
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
Luckily, the Knicks can’t stop us either.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:19 pm
Hawks were getting jumper-happy even when Bibby was in the game; it’s just that they were making them.
Damn right that Mo 3 was huge, but even that came on a possession when the post was abandoned. Good pass by Horford to an open Mo.
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
I feel kinda bad for that Rookie Fields having to go from checking Wade who had a huge game last night, to now checking Joe Johnson who is having a superb game tonight…he must be drained.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
“Wow, Bibby goes out of the game for JC, and the Hawks lose control.”
i would stress this last year.. Crawford is not a pg..
Hawks need a pg on the floor @ all times.. we just dont have enough quality @ the position.. but id live w/ Jeff’s bad jumper for his attack/distribute mentality..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:20 pm
Horford on the floor with four bench players. Let’s see if they get the ball to him.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:21 pm
way to inside pivot and go quick Al!!!
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:21 pm
got you positive results.. do it more!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:21 pm
Good strong take by Horford. Once again when he faces up and drives he is hard to stop.
cp
January 28th, 2011
9:22 pm
Joe, Josh, and Al are having good games. Marvin has been solid…Bibby and Mo are getting torched defensively off the dribble. Jamal is jacking up shot after shot after shot smdh
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:22 pm
As long as Zaza is on the floor, the best the Hawks can do is trade baskets.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Not one of Jamal’s better games.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
here comes the starters cuz our bench sucks
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Knicks are saying “Thanks jamal”
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Hawks are who we thought they were.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
9:24 pm
Jae, Fields made over $80,000 between yesterday and today. Are you sure you feel bad for him?
RecordingNBAHistory
January 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
Josh smith’s Monster dunk vs Knicks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPuJTQvRyY8
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
I hope tonight is not another one of those 15pt 4th qtrs….
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
IF THE HAWKS REFUSE TO PLAY TEAGUE.. THEY NEED TO GO AND GET ANOTHER QUALITY PG.
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
9:25 pm
bigdave,
Co-sign your 9:28 post.
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
Every team in the league know they can come back on the Hawks.
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
9:26 pm
Either I meant your 9:20 or I’m psychic, lol
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:27 pm
iso…brick
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:27 pm
Another possession with nothing in the post ends in Iso-Joe brick. Hawks are trying their best to give this game away.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:28 pm
Nice lucky shot by Jamal, but yet another possession with nothing in the post. This is going to end in disaster if it continues.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:28 pm
Bibby bricks another 3. Seriously, if that arm injury is affecting him this badly, maybe he should rest.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:29 pm
damn that video already on youtube
cp
January 28th, 2011
9:30 pm
Guys are looking gassed out there
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
should have gotten the alley oop instead
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
T-Mac, who gets paid less than Mo Evans, is 2 boards away from a triple double and Detroit is still leading the Wade-less and Bosh-less Heat.
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
9:31 pm
Come on Detroit, you need to pull this one off for us…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
I hope LD yelled at them during that timeout and told them to get the ball in the post.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
im surprise josh didnt get a tech
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:32 pm
wtf?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
What do you know… the Hawks post up for the first time since the 3rd quarter and they get a bucket. Is this that hard to understand?
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
damnnnnn that italy guy has some moves
cp
January 28th, 2011
9:33 pm
Bibby couldn’t defend a toddler smdh
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
amare 2.2 bpg, nique “they have nobody who blocks shots consistently”
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
Another possession with no post up, Joe gets stripped, and the Knicks have cut it to 8.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
joe is just a ball hog man
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
Joe pulling a Lebron..
move the ball!!
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:34 pm
Man, Hawks cant get any calls from these refs…
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
iso josh is workin!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
This is a f-cking carbon copy of the 4th quarter against the Bucks on the offensive end. The Hawks have just got lucky that the Knicks are not dropping bombs from 3 and attacking Bibby like the Bucks did.
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:35 pm
Hawks about to collapse
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:36 pm
Finally, we the Hawks are getting the ball in the post…
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:36 pm
over the limit DRIVE THE BALL
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:36 pm
they wanna play Williams.. offense should have gone through Josh on the blocks everytime down..
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Hawks definitely about to lose this one
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
That was actually a good possession, but Joe has to make that shot. Lead down to 6. This team is aggravating.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Hawks need to relax, fs play it slow, this is your game…
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
man take bibby out and put teague on felton
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:37 pm
Did I just see Bibby allowing Al to guard Felton at the top of the key… My goodness
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
that’s what im talking about Al…
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
Melvin.. u did.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
Nice play call to feed Al on the pick and roll.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
lmo@hawks vs knicks fans
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
You’re not supposed to yell when your own player is at the line you f-cking idiots…
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
9:39 pm
What – the – hell – is – this?
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
J SMOOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
Josh for 33333333333333333333333333
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
LMAO
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
Joe trust Josh from deep..
yeah Josh.. shut NY up!!!!
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:40 pm
LMAO @ NIQUE!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
That was a spectacularly awful possession, too. Smoove bailed the Hawks out with that 3. You deserve to do the big balls dance after that one, Smoove.
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Wow, Josh they caught the crouch grab on camera…LOL
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
josh will get fined lmfao
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
I guess that’s bad shot selection by Josh with 4 seconds on the shot clock.
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Regardless of whether we hold on to win this win…
One must ask, where’s the motion offense? We just did the same thing we did in the Bucks game, hit another lull.
The only reason we’re still up in this one and why we might possibly hang on though is because we were working with a bigger lead originally.
cp
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Big shot by Josh
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
please don’t collapse
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:41 pm
Did Josh just grab his nuts?
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Josh went Ben Gordon on em’..
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Would be nice if we could have a PG that would handle the ball during the half-court sets. And alot of folks like to point to Bibby low turn over ratio. I guess it should be low when you dont handle the ball that offend…
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
man the camera zoomed in too close on josh
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Josh is a big baby….of course that was a foul!! quit complaining and just play
bghawk
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Josh with the nut grab!!!
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
OOOOH AUSTIN DAYE JUST HIT A BIG THREE
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:43 pm
Smoove probably won’t get criticized after tonight’s game, because apparently fans will only call him out when he bricks open shots, but he hasn’t come with nearly the level of defensive intensity in this game as he did against the Bucks. Aside from a couple of big blocks he hasn’t had the overall defensive impact he usually does. But of course nobody will notice because they save their anger for him bricking jump shots in rhythm when he’s wide open. SMH…
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:44 pm
nah he knew it was a foul he was mad at himself
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:44 pm
Joe want that All-Star spot….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:44 pm
“And alot of folks like to point to Bibby low turn over ratio. I guess it should be low when you dont handle the ball that offend…”
Co-f-cking-sign.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:45 pm
Great pass by Smoove!
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:45 pm
Nice pass by Josh
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:45 pm
wowowowowowow nicee
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
Do Josh knows he has 9 rebs?
Donkey_Rope
January 28th, 2011
9:46 pm
Some old Hawks. It’s the same sea-saw type of play and fans buy into it EACH time.
The Hawks won this game shooting unbelievable from the field. Alot of bounces went their way.
When the going got tough, they still depended on ISO, deep into the shot clock jump shots.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
Does it really require a play call for Bibby to dribble 20 seconds off the clock and pass it to Joe for a contested 3?
This entire 4th quarter can be summed up in 5 letters — SMGDH
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
man this feel like a playoff game
Brad
January 28th, 2011
9:47 pm
Note Jamal not in
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
Bench without Jamal = 6 points, even with Jamal only 17 points…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
Story of this game: when they ran the ball through Smoove in the post, he got easy looks up close and swung the ball to open teammates for shots in rhythm. When they got the ball to Horford in a position to knock down that mid range shot, he knocked it down or drove it inside and got fouled. When they didn’t do either one, they were f-cked. And for most of the second half they didn’t do either.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
lmfao@josh
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:49 pm
Everyone wonders why the Hawks are so inconsistent, it comes with their lack of depth. The Starting 5 can’t carry the team for 82 straight games
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
Big time man to man D by Horford.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
O SH^&T!!
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
damn Marvin Williams
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
Marvin showing some toughness….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
I have NEVER seen Marvin show this much emotion in his life.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
aight.. im a Marvin fan now..
Nique's Revenge
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
KA POW!@!
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:50 pm
lmao marvin got that in him
cp
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
Damn Marvin throwing punches wtf
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
Marvinnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Blast
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
What the hell happened? Marvin fighting?
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
That’s about a 20 game suspension right there….Marvin Williams….wtf
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
Well Marvin, you are going to be suspend for some games
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
It looked like Shawne Williams got Landry Fields in the grill when he went for Marvin.
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:51 pm
Lmao @ Marvin trying to fight. He almost fell when he threw that punch. Glad to see he has some fire though.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Trade Marvin
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
WOOOOW MARVIN
Joe
January 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Really Josh Smith, want to grab your penis when you are excited. This is why I cannot stand pro basketball. Trash!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:52 pm
Miami wins 88-87. I wonder how that happened. Last second shot?
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 28th, 2011
9:53 pm
LOL!!!!
Marvin caught OXYGEN on the chin with.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 28th, 2011
9:54 pm
with that punch*
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:54 pm
What the heck got into Marvin? I didnt see much to get him so upset. Shawne Williams must have said something Marvin dislike…
kwooden1
January 28th, 2011
9:54 pm
I’m shocked by Marvin, but I can’t say that I’m waiting for some attitude by Marvin!!
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 28th, 2011
9:54 pm
He must have said something about his Duck walk.
Blast
January 28th, 2011
9:54 pm
Can’t stand pro ball? Then why the hell you watching it and posting about it? Get the fu!k outta here!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
Bulls have reversed that game completely, and are up by 9. If the Hawks hang on in this one and the Bulls win , the Hawks are tied with Orlando again.
J.J.M
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
lmfao@mac
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
Shawne Williams is a thug, I bet he was trash talking the whole game
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
I hope there was something more to that mini-brawl than a hand swipe…
terrell
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
And it looked like Marvin started it. He gone for a while. Damn Marvin. Not starting for a while must’ve really pissed him off.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
It was just Marvin letting out some steam about LD moving him to the bench for a few games.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:55 pm
Agree with MAC Town
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
In 60 combined minutes of play today, 6′10″ Amare Stoudemire and 7′0″ Brook Lopez have combined for four rebounds.
Smiling Jack
January 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
Marvin Williams shows once again what a bone head he is! Wow! A game that is only a few seconds left, Hawks leading by 10 and Big Marvin has to throw his weight around. Will no doubt be suspended. How many games will he play this year? He just came back from injury…now suspension. Bone head player!
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 28th, 2011
9:56 pm
but on a serious note…with under 1 min left?
Melvin
January 28th, 2011
9:57 pm
Good game by the Hawks…
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
Wow… WHAT A GAME
Blast
January 28th, 2011
9:58 pm
Refs did everything they could to make sure Knicks won tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
9:59 pm
Big win for the Hawks. I’m not going to go as far as to call it a good game, since they made the same damn mistakes in the 2nd half this time that they did on Wednesday, but a win is a win.
LD needs to institute a policy that every possession requires a post up. Seriously, the Hawks’ offense when they don’t post up is just pathetic.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
lol.. Marvin, reply shows nothing landed.. smh
Dept. of Unintended Irony
January 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
“Some old Hawks. It’s the same sea-saw type of play and fans buy into it EACH time.”
You mean they have a saw that can cut ocean water? Cool!
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
10:00 pm
*replay
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:01 pm
This is stupid though. As if you don’t already miss enough games due to injury. Now you want to go and miss games over fighting S. Williams? Not Lebron, not Pierce or Garnett, but Williams? How does that help your team at all? I said it before, Marvin always do things to GUARANTEE that he’s not traded. If he plays good for 5 games in a row, he makes sure he gets injured on game 6.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:03 pm
I would be getting more p-ssed about Marvin’s dumb ass getting himself suspended, but honestly, I really don’t care whether he plays or not. He doesn’t make any significant difference, and the Hawks proved it by not skipping a beat when he was out. As far as I’m concerned, if he’s out it just means more potential minutes for Damien.
cp
January 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Marvin being suspended means more Mo and I dont want to see any more Mo. Dude gets beat off the dribble consitently. Not smart by Marvin although its nice to finally see some fire from him… LD has to pull Jamal when he is cold and going hotsauce out there. Dude was just jacking up jumpers and not looking to pass to anybody……Bibby is just smh. The 3’s he makes just does not make up for how bad he is on the defensive end or his lack of contributions in any other aspect of the game. He comes across hafl court passes to Joe and stands in a corner. And damn I dont want to see Mo get more pt.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
Najeh, I’m pissed because it means more minutes for Jamal in crunch time, which is not the best defensive option for Atlanta.
bigdave
January 28th, 2011
10:04 pm
lol @ Joe being the last to come in..
Joe wanted to see the fight..
niremetal
January 28th, 2011
10:06 pm
Let’s do it The Price Is Right style – predict the number of games Marvin gets suspended for. Winner picks the number without going over.
Based on past precedents, I’m gonna say 6 games.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:06 pm
CP, not only more Mo, but more minutes when Josh has to play SF.
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
10:06 pm
I honestly didn’t mind seeing Marvin’s episode because truthfully, I wanna see some fire out of this guy. And as Najeh pointed out, it’s not as if we’ll miss him. Maybe this episode will light a fire in him (not banking on this though).
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
Niremetal, these are the Hawks, and the league hates the Hawks (thanks to ASG), 9 games suspended.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
@ Marvin, his back hurts to much to get 3 more rebounds, but its ok to step in the ring like Apollo Creed?
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
10:07 pm
I say 8 games.
ATL FAN
January 28th, 2011
10:08 pm
I think this is the beginning of the end for Marvin, if it hasn’t already started… This guy lost his cool, as Mac Town put it, he was emptying his frustration over his new bench role, and I think that he won’t accept that he isn’t a starter… Time to move on from Marvin, the team already basically has
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:08 pm
Wabe, the only fire under Marvin this will light is the heated seats in his home theater while he’s watching the Hawks play.
Wabe
January 28th, 2011
10:09 pm
Agreed Ra’mon.
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
10:10 pm
Why ya’ll think Marvin gonna be suspended for more than a game?
Doesn’t conduct like this result in strictly a one game suspension…
superiorblogman
January 28th, 2011
10:10 pm
I am a little disappointed with Al because he kinda pushed the intensity to far when he did that at the line. On the other hand, oh well atleast Marvin showed some emotion. Finally, the Knicks are just trying to build hype because they are irrelevant. Everything in New York is overly hyped. The Knicks are garbage attention seekers.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
10:10 pm
Williams -vs- Williams!
Sean must have said something about his Mamma! Fist to Cuffs and Marvin will be suspended 1-2 games prolly! But, Hey! We got options – right?
Message sent, don’t fck with The Hawks .. Marvin or ZaZa will bite you on the booty! Marvin found his inner-dog tonight, maybe he can help Teague find his!
____________________________
Give ‘Em something to talk about! Did yall see MC in the middle with the reviewing the fight? Hey, MC liked that plaid shirt you were sporting.
The bad thing is we need Marvin in Dallas though! Maybe Damien and Evans will step up and play some defense.
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
I don’t know about 9 games…I think Stern is coming harder than that
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
“Let’s do it The Price Is Right style – predict the number of games Marvin gets suspended for. Winner picks the number without going over.
Based on past precedents, I’m gonna say 6 games.”
Haha… good idea. I’ll say 5. If he landed the punch I think it would be a lot more.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
Superior, you’re disappointed in Al for gesturing that this is still the Hawks court, when on their home court you could hear loud Knicks’ fans? Really? To me it was the best move Horford made all season. You don’t let someone come on your court and act as if they’re the home team.
cp
January 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
good points Ra’mon….I can see perimeter players licking their chops now knowing they might get Bibby, Jamal, and Mo on the court at the same time. SMDH
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:16 pm
45 minutes for Al, 41 minutes for Joe, 38 minutes for Smoove in a game where they had a 20 point lead in the 3rd quarter. And they have to go on the road against a very good Mavs team tomorrow.
cp
January 28th, 2011
10:16 pm
I think Stern hits Marvin with about 6 games…
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
SekouSmithNBA Sekou Smith
Saw Marvin go at Joe Johnson once in practice years ago. He’s the nicest of guys but he will scrap. #dontgetittwisted
SekouSmithNBA Sekou Smith
Hawks coach Larry Drew tried to snatch Marvin Williams up and ’bout got tossed himself. Young fella was charged up.
Funny!
Never mind about the 10 games. Sekou stated they’ll only get 2 games max for this.
superiorblogman
January 28th, 2011
10:18 pm
Ra’mon
January 28th, 2011
10:13 pm
Superior, you’re disappointed in Al for gesturing that this is still the Hawks court, when on their home court you could hear loud Knicks’ fans? Really? To me it was the best move Horford made all season. You don’t let someone come on your court and act as if they’re the home team.
I understand what you are saying but New York is all about attitude and hype. That’s just them. I was disappointed because we are the vets in this situation and should not have gotten caught up like this.
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:19 pm
Good win, dissappointing 4th. Game was won on the boards and inside. Called the collapsee in the 1st quarter. We just can’t seem to play more than 40 minutes without something bad happening.
Dissappointing to see Marvin lose his cool after posting a +22 on the stat line. Dude was making some decent plays tonight. We need him back.
MC = If the deal with Powell wasn’t a big deal, why is he in a suit ever since? Use him or trade him. Same for JC2, Teague and hopefully Mo, ZaZa and Etan. We need a reliable C on D & Boards, we need a PG to spell Bibby or start for the next 2-3 years.
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
10:19 pm
throwing punches….at least get about a 5 game
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:21 pm
Loved the gestures to the crowd. It’s our court. Do whatever it takes to get the crowd involved. We need that desperately. MORE MORE MORE!
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:22 pm
Terry, Ariza, Garnett suspended one game for punch/fight. What’s up with the 5-6 game idea?
Freshfromatl
January 28th, 2011
10:23 pm
Smh @ some of y’all punk-a$$ fans! So everybody trying to jump on Marvin’s case now like y’all know exactly what went on. Dudes in here gossiping like chicks trying to speculate motives (he mad because he didn’t start yesterday?!? He trying to get suspended so he won’t get traded?!? Really?!?) man some of y’all some b!tches…
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:23 pm
@ Fundamentals, exactly! When teams come here it should be Hell in the Cell. And this altercation will actually lead to more ticket sales (Atlanta is just crazy like that). Before this, the only thing the Hawks were known for fighting was each other’s litigation.
Sautee
January 28th, 2011
10:24 pm
Our “Big Three” tonight:
77 points, 31 rebounds, 17 assists, 4 steals, and 3 blocked shots. And they were 30-51 from the field (.588%).
When Joe, Al and Josh all play like that, they don’t need a whole lot of help.
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:24 pm
Granger, Frye – one game.
This ain’t a Kermit Washington?
Dude just couldn’t handle the excitement of coming back and playing in the 4th quarter. I’m actually proud to see some fire, some passion, some energy.
+22 people, +22!
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:26 pm
Fresh your drawing conclusion from context clues has to be on a 5th grade level. No one says he’s got suspended so he wouldn’t get traded. But Marvin never does anything to improve his VALUE around the league, that’s a known fact. And you say we don’t know what was going on. We know who threw the first punch. We know there weren’t any pistols on the court, so it wasn’t life or death. We also know it was only 20 seconds left on the clock so it wasn’t worth missing any more time when you are already the odd man out most times due to injuries.
Donkey_Rope
January 28th, 2011
10:26 pm
I hope they send marvin to the d-league
JSS
January 28th, 2011
10:29 pm
Problem is…
Marvin gone = possible Josh Powell sighting…
Just saying…
Dept. of Unintended Irony
January 28th, 2011
10:29 pm
Says the guy getting emotional over blog posts?@Freshfromatl
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:29 pm
Maybe everyone is speculating too much, but no one can argue that Marvin somehow always finds a way to keep himself out of the rotation whenever he finally gets something going. Dude can’t put together more than a solid month w/o something happening. By now we know how to deal w/o having Marvin. Dude just can’t seem to fit in.
Freshfromatl
January 28th, 2011
10:29 pm
Ra’mon,
You MIGHT want to read back a few post before you address me. Someone did say that dumb-sh*t!
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
@ Fresh, also Marvin has already missed 3 out of every 8 games the Hawks play this season. That’s nearly half of the season. Right now, Marvin’s contributions to the team this season at best is 8th on this team, yet he’s pissed about not being a starter. You can’t contribute if you’re not playing. You can’t bow up when some scrub (who is S. Williams- really) runs off at the mouth.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
Like I said, 1-2 games infraction. There was no blood drawn, thanks to Josh and Al for breaking that up before it got worse. Marvin prolly getting high fives from his team mates right now!
Joe suited up and a rare interview on NBA TV!
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:30 pm
If we don’t see Powell in Dallas we can guarantee LD is full of it when he says there is no problem there. Play him or move him. Immediately.
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:31 pm
Ra’mon
January 28th, 2011
10:01 pm
This is stupid though. As if you don’t already miss enough games due to injury. Now you want to go and miss games over fighting S. Williams? Not Lebron, not Pierce or Garnett, but Williams? How does that help your team at all? I said it before, Marvin always do things to GUARANTEE that he’s not traded. If he plays good for 5 games in a row, he makes sure he gets injured on game 6.
Where in that comment did it say Marvin was suspended so he wouldn’t be traded?
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:32 pm
Good emotion, good energy except for the 8-9 minute lull at the start of the 4th.
FOCUS FOR 48!
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:32 pm
Fundamentals, play or move Powell? Think about this, if you were another team, would you trade even a 2nd round pick for Powell? lol. I wish the Hawks would try to move Powell and Thomas for Ben Wallace with Pistons, since Wallace is owed another season after this, makes sense for the Pistons.
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:33 pm
Ra’mon – we can read. Scroll his comments.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:33 pm
Magic have the same problem without Jameer Nelson that the Hawks do — they get way too perimeter oriented and forget to get the ball in the post, and that’s a big reason they are about to lose this game. Hawks and Magic are about to be tied again.
Oldtimer
January 28th, 2011
10:33 pm
Superior, don’t act too superior. This was the right thing for Marvin. Go Hawks. Go Big Al. This is what we need, attitude, this is our home, this is our court, no one will come and show us up. That is two on NY. Now get the f** out of ATL and go back to NY
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
10:34 pm
Trading Josh Smith………Yall hating ass fans still wnt to do that?Yall stupid!He was scoring from everywhere.Yall ain’t no fans,hating on the team you so called love.Fake ass fans man.Yall stay hating on this man.Everyone makes a bad play once in a while.Yall never jump on Joe Johnson because hes plays no damn defense.He’s inconsistent.He’ll prolly have 10 point tomorrow(Johnson).
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:35 pm
Powell, Etan, Mo are all not due $$ next year so picking up someone would help another team. I just hate to see slots for role players filled with someone we’ll never use.
Fundamentals
January 28th, 2011
10:37 pm
Wallace would provide D & Rebounding, but what other options are there? Alot will happen before Feb ends. We need to be active for a C & PG.
terrell
January 28th, 2011
10:38 pm
Najeh, I’m getting to the point where I dont care about min. These guys are in great shape(-Bibby) Look how the Knicks played coming off a back to back. They were down by 24 at one point. Hell, the Falcons had the whole week off(no minutes at all). Didnt help them out none. And does LD really have a choice? Have you seen Zaza and Mo play?
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
10:38 pm
Could trade Powell for nothing, just to pick up the roster slot, and sign J. Williams.
Jae Evolution
January 28th, 2011
10:39 pm
Damn Howard with a huge game almost 40 and 20, is Dwight getting better at the FT line, everytime I check the box score he has HUGE FT attempts and converts on a decent number of them.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
10:39 pm
Dang! JOE got a big azz knot on his right forhead. Did he jump Marvin in the locker room, LOL! Prolly a elbow under the basket though. What a physical game all night. Great rebounding from The Hawks!
All these NY transplants need to trek on back up to NY with all that cheering Ish!
But, to the Hawks vredit, we sent them home with a double whamie! Thanks top Marvin! Drew be pissing them off with a soft whisper, he don’t yell or scream, he just ignore them like Lenny Wilkens did.
Lenny was so raw, he didn’t even look at rookies and scrubs. He went a whole year without ever speaking one word to the useless players. He prollywas pissed at how much money they were making with no game. LOL!
terrell
January 28th, 2011
10:40 pm
WE NEED A PG AND A BENCH. Free Jordan Crawford!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:42 pm
“I’m getting to the point where I dont care about min. These guys are in great shape(-Bibby) Look how the Knicks played coming off a back to back. They were down by 24 at one point. Hell, the Falcons had the whole week off(no minutes at all). Didnt help them out none. And does LD really have a choice? Have you seen Zaza and Mo play?”
I feel you on that, especially the part about Zaza and Mo, and the numbers back you up since the Hawks have the best record on second games of back-to-backs in the league. So far it hasn’t affected the Hawks. I hope that can continue over an 82 game season and into the playoffs.
superiorblogman
January 28th, 2011
10:43 pm
Jamal was rattled by Toney Douglas defense tonight. I’m not a big fan of Jamal. He is just a little better than Flip. We need him now but that’s only because they have not gotten Jordan ready
brigadierjerry
January 28th, 2011
10:45 pm
Good game I think these two teams would be a good playoff matchup. What kills the Hawks is the PG. Felton running circles around Bibby but Teague cant hit a jump shot and Bibby cant move.
Also Laundry Fields is a good player to have a glue guy that does a lot of the little things. Hard to believe he was a 2nd round pick
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
10:48 pm
Hawks are going to need a 3 seed to play the Knicks in the playoffs, which would require them to leapfrog Orlando AND either Chicago or Miami. More likely that they play Orlando or Chicago. I’d definitely rather see the Knicks in the first round than either of those two teams though.
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
10:48 pm
superiorblogman
Why do you always get on here saying stupid stuff.Jamal is way better than Flip!Flip ain’t even playing!That explains it all.F OUTTA HERE wit that man.Dang……….Stupid stuff stay off the blog.When has Flip ever scored 50 in his career?Even just wit 1 team?Brah chill
Solid Fifth Seed
January 28th, 2011
10:53 pm
Yeah Baby!! Won some $$ from my favorite K-nix fan!!
drmaryb (*_*)
January 28th, 2011
10:53 pm
Joe is the best defender on that perimeter. A one man wrecking crew who covers for Bibby and Jamal. He always draws the opponent’s best player:
Kobe, LeBron, Wade, Durantula, and it just don’t stop!
_____________________
Free Basketball, double OT in OKC. Wizards match them well! Hawks can learn from that game tape.
superiorblogman
January 28th, 2011
10:54 pm
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
10:48 pm
superiorblogman
Why do you always get on here saying stupid stuff.Jamal is way better than Flip!Flip ain’t even playing!That explains it all.F OUTTA HERE wit that man.Dang……….Stupid stuff stay off the blog.When has Flip ever scored 50 in his career?Even just wit 1 team?Brah chill
You are a lame. You are talking about a handful of games during Jamal’s career which is around a decade long. Flip average 15 a game the last year he was with the Hawks. Crawford does not average much more.
yodaddy
January 28th, 2011
10:54 pm
@Fundamentals
when did Trevor Ariza and KG get in a fight….can’t find it on google….must not exist
Solid Fifth Seed
January 28th, 2011
10:54 pm
Joe needs to stay aggressive. I like the 34 points and the J-Smove highlights. Did u see JJ’s cross-over and pop from 15. Sweet.
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
11:00 pm
superiorblogman
Thats because he’s on a good team.Brah when crawford was wit the Knicks he averaged 21 points.Flip never did that.What you saying?Speak facts,not opinions.Flip can’t score at will.What he do when the hawks let him go?Didn’t nobody want his ass.Brah stop talking!Take a nap
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
11:02 pm
Who’s better Jamal Crawford or Flip Murray?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
11:06 pm
The only difference between last year’s team and the previous year’s team was replacing Flip with Jamal, and the result was a 6 win increase. Jamal’s strengths and weaknesses are more or less the same as Flip’s strengths and weaknesses, but Jamal is a much better player than Flip. More athletic, better at hitting bad shots, better handles, and more consistent.
superiorblogman
January 28th, 2011
11:10 pm
The fact is Jamal is not that much better than Flip like I stated initially. The margin is not even worth talking about. Jamal does 1 thing and that is score, he is only marginally better than Flip and should have been traded, goodnight kids
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
11:10 pm
Thank You
Ra'mon
January 28th, 2011
11:10 pm
Najeh, Jamal is a much better player than Flip. However, Flip was here for almost 15% the cost of Jamal. So if having Flip would mean the 85% of Jamal’s contract going to other areas of the bench (or that $8 mil just happens to be MORE than what Felton is making this season- or Salmons, who would be great along side Joe), then the argument of is it better to have Jamal or Flip does have merit.
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
11:13 pm
superiorblogman
Traded for what?If they can’t sign him to a new contract,what makes you thank they will be able to sign what they get in return?Brah you know nothing bout basketball!They mite as well play the season out with him!They gave your favorite player joe johnson all the money
Najeh Davenpoop
January 28th, 2011
11:48 pm
“Flip was here for almost 15% the cost of Jamal. So if having Flip would mean the 85% of Jamal’s contract going to other areas of the bench (or that $8 mil just happens to be MORE than what Felton is making this season- or Salmons, who would be great along side Joe), then the argument of is it better to have Jamal or Flip does have merit.”
The argument of “is it better to have Jamal or Flip” does have merit, I agree, because of salary. The argument that superiorblogman made and I responded to, which is that there isn’t a big difference between Jamal as a player and Flip as a player, isn’t the same thing.
rusty
January 28th, 2011
11:53 pm
As good as jj played, I still don’t like what he did in the forth quarter he started to hold on to the ball way to long & took us out of our rhythm . What the hell is wrong with dumb ld refusing to play jt,jc2 @ Josh powell . I really can’t understand his reasoning. He gives time to mo who is just horrible,plays jc1 at the point & gives mb major minutes when he couldn’t guard my grandmother who is 90
Section 303
January 28th, 2011
11:59 pm
What a game tonight! I love watching trash talking NYC teams get their asses handed to them. I, for one, am proud of Marvin for not taking any crap from those clowns.
If any of you are on Twitter, you should follow the Knicks beat writer. Knicks are A’mere is talking all kinds of crap about Horford. Guess he did not like it when Al pumped the crowd up while at the free throw line.
“He doesn’t want to see me any night. He needs to calm down.”–A’mere on Horford.
They can talk all they want…Hawks are 2 and 0 against the Knicks. Knicks = wannabe
Grandad
January 29th, 2011
12:21 am
If you go back to the previous possession Landry fields clocks Marv
in the jaw. Marv may have thought it was S.Will.
S.Will. grabbed Marv’s arms and nearly caused Marv’s head to get
taken off.
Whoever said Joe was the last one there…Josh and Al were nearby
so naturally they got there 1st. Joe arrived quickly thereafter.
Never saw bibby…..don’t blame him.
All the players from both teams did a good job of diffusing the situation.
Josh was a “neanderthal” tonight.
The crotch grab was unacceptable.
Plus, he was almost a cause for a FT violation once;
[yakking at the Knicks bench]
Bibby had to yell at him to get on the lane.
I like Josh but there is no place for that bilge.
Back to Marv:
S.Will threw the *1st of two punches.
That doesn’t excuse Marv but he at least showed courage
if not good sense.
The Knicks began baiting the Hawks in the 2nd qtr
when they began to be run off the floor.
It escalated in the 2nd half with dirty play.
That’s why we need an enforcer
One Bad Ass that will stop all that guano.
slimjr
January 29th, 2011
12:28 am
“Josh was a “neanderthal” tonight.
The crotch grab was unacceptable.
Plus, he was almost a cause for a FT violation once;
[yakking at the Knicks bench]”
Josh/Marvin for Who?????
Sund jettison the core.Make it so..
ISO JOE, ISO JOE
slimjr
January 29th, 2011
12:31 am
Felton is balling, 5th pick after DUCK!!! Nice PG, averaging 17/9 per night….Thanks Billy Knight……………….
Grandad
January 29th, 2011
12:36 am
Section 303 – Al’s my favorite Hawk but I would prefer he concentrate on making his free throws. [He missed FT # 2 after pumping the crowd]
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Another matter that is becoming more and more common;
The Hawks will run either ‘motion’ or a ’set play’,
get the ball inside only to have our post player
[and sometimes Joe]
reverse and kick it out to the corner for a three.
This does a couple of things:
1. causes us to shoot less FT’s due to attacking the basket less.
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2. the Hawks rely on the 3 pointer rather than being inside oriented.
superiorblogman
January 29th, 2011
10:51 am
Hawks Fan
January 28th, 2011
11:13 pm
superiorblogman
Traded for what?If they can’t sign him to a new contract,what makes you thank they will be able to sign what they get in return?Brah you know nothing bout basketball!They mite as well play the season out with him!They gave your favorite player joe johnson all the money
First off, you are one ignorant short bus riding drooling little keyboard. There are several players that Jamal can be traded for that will be within budget. That’s Sund’s job. How do you know how much Mike Dunleavy, TJ Ford, Dalembert, Prince, and so many other guys with expirings are asking for in there next contracts? It is quite possible that all of those guys are asking for less than Jamal, and they all fill a need. If you would look around for facts instead of an argument in which you always sound stupid when engaging in you could learn something.
superiorblogman
January 29th, 2011
11:08 am
Trades that could be made including Jamal that would help in the long run and maybe even now.
Jamal for Omri Casspi works because Kings under cap
Jamal for Donte Greene works ”
Jamal for Jonny Flynn works”
Those are just straight up trades for guys under contract next year and none make more than 3.1 million next year. The question would be rather you want to pay that guy 1-3 mill or Jamal his asking price, which should really be about what Marvin is making 7-8 mill. Read for yourself before trying to act informed or smart