Atlanta Hawks: Hawks caught in ‘Melo drama

As far as I can tell, the speculation connecting Carmelo Anthony to the Hawks is based solely on a line from Alan Hahn’s story in Newsday (H/T to Hawksquawk.net for the link):

“Other teams, such as the Trail Blazers and Hawks, have been in touch in preliminary terms, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.”

Rick Sund didn’t want to comment on the item yesterday. But knowing how he operates, “preliminary terms” means the Hawks reached out to the Nuggets to see what they are thinking regarding Melo. Sund always stresses that teams constantly make such calls to see if there are deals that make sense but that it doesn’t mean anything will get done or that it ever reaches the level of negotiations.

Once such talks reach the public domain, though, folks get in a frenzy. Before you run too far with Melo and the Hawks, first thing’s first: In an interview with Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post, Melo didn’t include Atlanta on the list of cities where he’d be willing to sign an extension:

I Asked: Are the options strictly New Jersey, New York, Chicago, Denver?

Melo said, “Yeah. But I really can’t say it’s just those, because I don’t really know (what could happen).”

This, of course, is in reference to the reality that Denver could trade Melo to a team he doesn’t want to play for long-term. If that happens, then he might not sign the three-year, $65 million contract extension to play for that team. Instead, he’d opt out of his current contract and be a free agent this summer, likely signing with the Knicks. But – he would take a significant pay cut, due to the new collective bargaining agreement.

Furthermore, the Hawks don’t have the kind of assets the Nets were offering the Nuggets for Melo.. I also doubt the Hawks would be willing to give up a part of their proverbial “core” for a short-term rental of Melo since they still don’t know what this group can do (and such a swap could significantly weaken the Hawks in other areas even as they add Melo). I do think ASG might be willing to pay the luxury tax for Melo because, if you recall, in those comments that got Michael Gearon Jr. fined by the league, he said there are only a few players worth the tax in this market because of the revenues they’d bring in. Melo might–emphasis on might–be a guy who could do that here.

Of course this whole Melo saga could end (it will end, won’t it?) with him signing Denver’s extension offer or rolling the dice and becoming a free agent despite the CBA uncertainty.

Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat

130 comments Add your comment

Will Sevidal

January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm

Hoops

January 26th, 2011
1:50 pm

Melo to the Hawks? Who would we trade? I would want to get Billups in that deal as well!!!

Ron E.

January 26th, 2011
1:50 pm

The Hawks do know what this group can do: get swept in the 2nd round. If the Hawks could add Melo even as a rental without giving up Josh and Al, they should do it.

P

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

please come and get rid of joe.

ole richie

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

if the hawks could get him, it put us directly in the middle of the mix to win the east IMO. Trade Smith, Teague, maybe ZaZa or marvin. They would prob want Al tho

Section 303

January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm

Did anyone on here really take the Hawks/Melo thing serious? I didn’t…it would be great to land him, if he would sign an extension. If he won’t, F him.

Michael, your thoughts, do Hawks make a move by the deadline? Yes or no? I know you haven’t heard anything, but gut feeling? I’m saying yes. I just can’t imagine them standing pat (well…actually…I can imagine that, but I don’t think they will.)

Freshfromatl

January 26th, 2011
1:55 pm

Uhhhhhhhhh-Ohhhhhhh!!! MC, I don’t know if you should have posted this the way the blog seems to always erupt into NBA 2K11 “fantasy” trade talk smh.

Expect a high volume of impossible trade scenarios in 5,4,3,2,1……..

Harrison

January 26th, 2011
1:55 pm

Josh/Jcraw/1st round pick for Melo/Nene or Billups? If Melo would resign with us, I would definitely pull the trigger.

Harrison

January 26th, 2011
1:56 pm

Hawksquawk has gone on for 9 pages proposing trades.

hbcuclassics

January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm

Hawks – Denver Works, but why?

Bibby Billups
Marvin Anthony
Evans Shelden
Pachulia
Teague
Trade Exception

Freshfromatl

January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm

“and such a swap could significantly weaken the Hawks in other areas even as they add Melo” – MC.

Thanks for stating this MC. This is something that several chumps on this blog doesn’t seem to understand as they continue to have wet-dreams about Melo in a Hawks uniform.

Will Sevidal

January 26th, 2011
1:59 pm

HAHA, I’ve never been first at anything. This is a proud moment for me. I would like to thank MC & the God of Time for making this all happen.

But if the Hawks do decide to trade with Melo, I’m guessing Denver would want Josh Smith as the main piece they would get back. The Hawks would have to give more than Josh Smith too, which will make matching salaries real hard. I don’t see a trade happening between Denver & Atlanta unless there was a third party involved.

YeloMelo

January 26th, 2011
2:00 pm

Give them Marvin and Jamal Crawford. But only if you get a long term committment from Melo.

Adrian

January 26th, 2011
2:01 pm

I always hate “articles” like this and wish it wouldn’t even be reported. I would LOVE to have Melo here but I’d rather not hear about any “inquiries” unless there is evidence the Hawks are currently making a SERIOUS run at him. Otherwise it is wasted space. Does anyone here think the Hawks are actually going to get Melo or be able to sign him to a long-term deal? I would think after the Danny Manning fiasco we would have learned our lesson with “rentals,” and unless we’re somehow going to get Melo without giving up Horford, Josh Smith or Joe Johnson, trading for Melo is a waste of time.

smooth1966

January 26th, 2011
2:02 pm

The Hawks could use a big splash move like this to energize the fan base and have a legitimate chance to win the East, if they still have a formiable roster left after such a trade.

Freshfromatl

January 26th, 2011
2:05 pm

LMAO! Check out this nba.com link. This is a chat that Carmelo had with fans a few years back (maybe his rookie season?).

http://www.nba.com/nuggets/news/carmelo_chat_040504.html

Paterson, NJ: yo Melo, other than Denver, what is your favorite NBA city to play in?

Carmelo Anthony: Atlanta

Larry

January 26th, 2011
2:06 pm

I’d like the Hawks to bring the best player available without tattoos!

Glenn

January 26th, 2011
2:08 pm

Dude wants to play in New York . If we are in discussions involving Melo it would involve a three way swap .

Big Ray

January 26th, 2011
2:09 pm

Translation: things will remain as they have.

“We like our core. We’re willing to be patient.”

Yep.

Zzzzzzzzzzz……

NBA sux

January 26th, 2011
2:10 pm

… until we see what this team can do?

They can cash checks. Thats about it.

They will never make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs w/o an ELITE baller. Joe Johnson is NOT elite. How in the world is he worth $20mil per year? And Marvin… he has developed. What you see is what you get.

The NBA is turrble.

NBA sux

January 26th, 2011
2:12 pm

If the Hawks are serious about contending with the likes of the Heat, they better acquire an elite player like Melo. Otherwise, its time to sell high and start acquiring draft picks.

Art Vandelay

January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

Adding Carmelo Anthony to the Hawks doesn’t guarantee any improvement at all. He’s never won a thing in the NBA and he’s as one-dimensional a player as there is in the league. Sure, he’s a prolific scorer, but without the ball in his hands, he just occupies space. Defense is an afterthought, and he doesn’t make his teammates better. I mean no disrespect to the greatest Hawk of all time, but Melo is a 21st century Nique — lots of flashy highlights, but nowhere near complete enough to lead a team to a championship.

No thanks.

Glenn

January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

Oh yeah before Carmelo could play in Atlanta JJ & his silly massive contract would have to be shipped off . Who in the world would want to have to take that .

Rufus1

January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm

Art Vandelay

January 26th, 2011
2:15 pm

And Larry, Blake Griffin is the best player in the NBA without tattoos (maybe the best player in the NBA, period). I don’t think he’s likely to be traded.

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The Truth

January 26th, 2011
2:20 pm

MC: You and most of Hawksville know that this Melo-to-ATL chatter that you presented will never happen but I’m glad nonetheless that you changed the conversation from the previous blog topic. For the most part, Teague honeymoon with the Hawks maybe approaching a cross-road with an unfavorable approval rating from most in Hawksville. We certainly don’t want to damage the kid confidence any further with these insightful observations. I’m sure he’ll keep his head up because better days are coming one way or the other. I’m also sure if he’s disappointed and crying; he’s likely doing it all the way to the bank and counting his millions.

MaxxHawk

January 26th, 2011
2:20 pm

Trade JJ, Jamal Crawford, Marvin and a 1st Rd Pick for Carmelo Anthony, assuming he signs an extension and wants to stay in ATL, otherwise don’t give up those guys for a guy that will play 1/2 a season and then leave

J.J.M

January 26th, 2011
2:22 pm

‎2 ways I would only trade for melo….1 if he can get melo without trading josh or horford im all in 2. if we have to trade josh BUT melo is willing to sign long term with the hawks im all in

SSI FAN

January 26th, 2011
2:23 pm

Josh, Marvin, Jamal, Zaza, Bibby, and first round pick for Carmelo, Chauncey, and Nene

SirReal

January 26th, 2011
2:23 pm

Not gonna happen….not with ASG running the ship. Forget about it….all speculation.

liljb

January 26th, 2011
2:26 pm

@Art Vandelay I would like to add Dwight Howard to best players without tattoos

DB

January 26th, 2011
2:31 pm

Yea right! Next issue

Michael Cunningham

January 26th, 2011
2:33 pm

@ Sec 303: “Michael, your thoughts, do Hawks make a move by the deadline? Yes or no? I know you haven’t heard anything, but gut feeling? I’m saying yes. I just can’t imagine them standing pat (well…actually…I can imagine that, but I don’t think they will.)”

gut feeling? i’m starting to think they will. definitely feel it’s more of a possibility than at this time last year.

Michael Cunningham

January 26th, 2011
2:33 pm

@Freshfromatl: “Uhhhhhhhhh-Ohhhhhhh!!! MC, I don’t know if you should have posted this the way the blog seems to always erupt into NBA 2K11 “fantasy” trade talk smh.”

no harm in it, i guess. have some fun.

Michael Cunningham

January 26th, 2011
2:35 pm

@Adrian: “I always hate “articles” like this and wish it wouldn’t even be reported. I would LOVE to have Melo here but I’d rather not hear about any “inquiries” unless there is evidence the Hawks are currently making a SERIOUS run at him. Otherwise it is wasted space.”

fortunately this won’t make the newspaper, so space is not an issue. just a few kbs on a hard drive somewhere.

Smiling Jack

January 26th, 2011
2:37 pm

It ain’t gonna happen! No way, no how. You may think Sund is dumb, but he’s not so dumb as to decimate the Hawks for the use of one short term player like Mello for the rest of this year.

Michael Cunningham

January 26th, 2011
2:37 pm

@ The Truth: “MC: You and most of Hawksville know that this Melo-to-ATL chatter that you presented will never happen but I’m glad nonetheless that you changed the conversation from the previous blog topic.”

no, i don’t think it will happen. but it was out there, blog people asked me about it, so i addressed it as best i could. such is the way of my biz nowadays.

Marshall

January 26th, 2011
2:39 pm

Based on the recent lawsuit that revealed ASG has been trying to sell the franchise for years, why would Anthony or any high priced free agent consider signing with Atlanta until the ownership situation is cleared up? Of course there could be millions of reasons I’m sure!

Art Vandelay

January 26th, 2011
2:40 pm

liljb, duly noted. I’ve added Dwight to the official Best Players Without Tattoos list.

Jonas Grumby

January 26th, 2011
2:40 pm

The Hawks, as constituted, have no chance of closing the gap on Boston-Miami-Orlando, and now probably even Chicago. They won’t get better with age. In the NBA, you’re only as good as your franchise player and his supporting cast. The Hawks would have to part with some of their supporting players to get a franchise guy.

Halsey

January 26th, 2011
2:43 pm

Melo is a big name and all, but he’s not worth giving up a ton for. Yeah, he puts up nice stats, but what has he ever won in the NBA? The only way it would be worth it is if the Hawks could still keep Josh Smith and Al Horford.

The Grinch

January 26th, 2011
2:53 pm

Smith and Horford are the only Hawks worth paying money to see. Everyone else is expendable.

northcyde

January 26th, 2011
2:53 pm

Melo has done something that no team in Atlanta Hawk history has done . . and that’s reach a conference final.

KG didn’t do jack either, until he got quality players like Cassell and Spreewell to play with. And even then, that team maxed out in the Western Conference Finals.

Paul Pierce never did jack, but even he reached a Conference Finals once

Ray Allen never did jack in Seattle, but did reach a Conference Finals in 2000 with Milwaukee, alongside Cassell and Big Dog.

Pau Gasol never did jack in Memphis, going 0 – 12 in the playoffs.

But as soon as KG and Allen teamed with Pierce, they were a champion. Soon as Gasol teamed with Kobe, he was a champion.

Some of you sound silly in this Melo debate. If the Hawks only lost one of the core players, they’d be better off as a team.

If we could get away with giving up Jamal, Mo, and one of the kids . . and keep the precious “core” intact . . you DEFINITELY do that for a partial season rental.

john mickins

January 26th, 2011
2:55 pm

my god man this is a no brainer. you have no shot in the east as it is since its so top heavy. if u can make the deal make it!

ATL FAN

January 26th, 2011
3:00 pm

Pape Sy has been a beast lately. Check out his highlight at 0:30 in this video.

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20110121/IDAUTA/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore

Section 303

January 26th, 2011
3:05 pm

northcyde, just for the sake of talk…let’s say the Hawks get ‘Melo as a rental, and manage to keep the sacred “core” intact. You pick them to come out of the East?

I’m not sure…They’re in the conversation, though. You would have a great perimeter game (Joe Johnson, Bibby, ‘Melo, Marvin (sometimes)). Al would still be at the 5 and have matchup issues, which usually means foul trouble. Josh Smith would be at the 4, though. And, with ‘Melo at the 3, I would think Josh would almost be forced (if it is possible to force him to do anything), to play strickly around the basket.

It’s interesting…I still have a hard time giving up someone big just for a rental.

gots to do it now!!!

January 26th, 2011
3:09 pm

Melo and their 2nd next year for J Smith, Crawford and our first next year

northcyde

January 26th, 2011
3:11 pm

If Denver was concerned about cutting payroll, and wanted a little bit of talent in return, I’d trade them

Jamal + Mo + Powell + Jordan . . for Carmelo ( if Melo agrees to sign an extension, toss in a 1st round pick in 2011, which would be in the mid 20s anyway )

Hawks lineup would look like this:

C – Horford
PF – Smith
F – Anthony
G – Johnson
PG – Bibby

6th – Marvin
7th – Zaza
8th – Teague
9th – Wilkins
10th – Collins

11th – Etan
12th – Sy

. . and we’d have to add one more player to make 13. Hell, bring in some scrub big man. Anybody, so that he can dress in a suit every night. And we’d assemble a starting lineup that would rival Boston as being the best in the league.

Marvin would assume the 6th man role he probably should be in anyway. Teague would HAVE to play, satisfying folks in the fan base. JJ or Melo could be on the floor at all times, keeping a potent scorer out on the floor. And the Hawks could generate a buzz in this city for basketbal that hasn’t been seen in the 80s.

The only issue would be . . what number would Melo wear, if Horford refused to give up his number?

dukester

January 26th, 2011
3:12 pm

Once again Northcyde you are right. Im gone dont even want to partake in this madness from some folks on this board. Starting with LARRY!! he must be the biggest racist on the planet. This guy said “bring the best player with tattoos” Sorry larry we wouldnt have a NBA if we got rid of tattooed players. Personally I dont have one and would never get one but me looking at your post from the falcons and hawks I bet you a dollar your a racist. Bring Carmelo home!! And a rebounding and shot blocking center. i could play point guard for this team with those two!!