Atlanta Hawks: Hawks caught in ‘Melo drama
As far as I can tell, the speculation connecting Carmelo Anthony to the Hawks is based solely on a line from Alan Hahn’s story in Newsday (H/T to Hawksquawk.net for the link):
“Other teams, such as the Trail Blazers and Hawks, have been in touch in preliminary terms, according to a person with knowledge of the situation.”
Rick Sund didn’t want to comment on the item yesterday. But knowing how he operates, “preliminary terms” means the Hawks reached out to the Nuggets to see what they are thinking regarding Melo. Sund always stresses that teams constantly make such calls to see if there are deals that make sense but that it doesn’t mean anything will get done or that it ever reaches the level of negotiations.
Once such talks reach the public domain, though, folks get in a frenzy. Before you run too far with Melo and the Hawks, first thing’s first: In an interview with Benjamin Hochman of the Denver Post, Melo didn’t include Atlanta on the list of cities where he’d be willing to sign an extension:
I Asked: Are the options strictly New Jersey, New York, Chicago, Denver?
Melo said, “Yeah. But I really can’t say it’s just those, because I don’t really know (what could happen).”
This, of course, is in reference to the reality that Denver could trade Melo to a team he doesn’t want to play for long-term. If that happens, then he might not sign the three-year, $65 million contract extension to play for that team. Instead, he’d opt out of his current contract and be a free agent this summer, likely signing with the Knicks. But – he would take a significant pay cut, due to the new collective bargaining agreement.
Furthermore, the Hawks don’t have the kind of assets the Nets were offering the Nuggets for Melo.. I also doubt the Hawks would be willing to give up a part of their proverbial “core” for a short-term rental of Melo since they still don’t know what this group can do (and such a swap could significantly weaken the Hawks in other areas even as they add Melo). I do think ASG might be willing to pay the luxury tax for Melo because, if you recall, in those comments that got Michael Gearon Jr. fined by the league, he said there are only a few players worth the tax in this market because of the revenues they’d bring in. Melo might–emphasis on might–be a guy who could do that here.
Of course this whole Melo saga could end (it will end, won’t it?) with him signing Denver’s extension offer or rolling the dice and becoming a free agent despite the CBA uncertainty.
Michael Cunningham, Hawks beat
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Will Sevidal
January 26th, 2011
1:45 pm
FIRST?!
Hoops
January 26th, 2011
1:50 pm
Melo to the Hawks? Who would we trade? I would want to get Billups in that deal as well!!!
Ron E.
January 26th, 2011
1:50 pm
The Hawks do know what this group can do: get swept in the 2nd round. If the Hawks could add Melo even as a rental without giving up Josh and Al, they should do it.
P
January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm
please come and get rid of joe.
ole richie
January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm
if the hawks could get him, it put us directly in the middle of the mix to win the east IMO. Trade Smith, Teague, maybe ZaZa or marvin. They would prob want Al tho
Section 303
January 26th, 2011
1:52 pm
Did anyone on here really take the Hawks/Melo thing serious? I didn’t…it would be great to land him, if he would sign an extension. If he won’t, F him.
Michael, your thoughts, do Hawks make a move by the deadline? Yes or no? I know you haven’t heard anything, but gut feeling? I’m saying yes. I just can’t imagine them standing pat (well…actually…I can imagine that, but I don’t think they will.)
Freshfromatl
January 26th, 2011
1:55 pm
Uhhhhhhhhh-Ohhhhhhh!!! MC, I don’t know if you should have posted this the way the blog seems to always erupt into NBA 2K11 “fantasy” trade talk smh.
Expect a high volume of impossible trade scenarios in 5,4,3,2,1……..
Harrison
January 26th, 2011
1:55 pm
Josh/Jcraw/1st round pick for Melo/Nene or Billups? If Melo would resign with us, I would definitely pull the trigger.
Harrison
January 26th, 2011
1:56 pm
Hawksquawk has gone on for 9 pages proposing trades.
hbcuclassics
January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm
Hawks – Denver Works, but why?
Bibby Billups
Marvin Anthony
Evans Shelden
Pachulia
Teague
Trade Exception
Freshfromatl
January 26th, 2011
1:57 pm
“and such a swap could significantly weaken the Hawks in other areas even as they add Melo” – MC.
Thanks for stating this MC. This is something that several chumps on this blog doesn’t seem to understand as they continue to have wet-dreams about Melo in a Hawks uniform.
Will Sevidal
January 26th, 2011
1:59 pm
HAHA, I’ve never been first at anything. This is a proud moment for me. I would like to thank MC & the God of Time for making this all happen.
But if the Hawks do decide to trade with Melo, I’m guessing Denver would want Josh Smith as the main piece they would get back. The Hawks would have to give more than Josh Smith too, which will make matching salaries real hard. I don’t see a trade happening between Denver & Atlanta unless there was a third party involved.
YeloMelo
January 26th, 2011
2:00 pm
Give them Marvin and Jamal Crawford. But only if you get a long term committment from Melo.
Adrian
January 26th, 2011
2:01 pm
I always hate “articles” like this and wish it wouldn’t even be reported. I would LOVE to have Melo here but I’d rather not hear about any “inquiries” unless there is evidence the Hawks are currently making a SERIOUS run at him. Otherwise it is wasted space. Does anyone here think the Hawks are actually going to get Melo or be able to sign him to a long-term deal? I would think after the Danny Manning fiasco we would have learned our lesson with “rentals,” and unless we’re somehow going to get Melo without giving up Horford, Josh Smith or Joe Johnson, trading for Melo is a waste of time.
smooth1966
January 26th, 2011
2:02 pm
The Hawks could use a big splash move like this to energize the fan base and have a legitimate chance to win the East, if they still have a formiable roster left after such a trade.
Freshfromatl
January 26th, 2011
2:05 pm
LMAO! Check out this nba.com link. This is a chat that Carmelo had with fans a few years back (maybe his rookie season?).
http://www.nba.com/nuggets/news/carmelo_chat_040504.html
Paterson, NJ: yo Melo, other than Denver, what is your favorite NBA city to play in?
Carmelo Anthony: Atlanta
Larry
January 26th, 2011
2:06 pm
I’d like the Hawks to bring the best player available without tattoos!
Glenn
January 26th, 2011
2:08 pm
Dude wants to play in New York . If we are in discussions involving Melo it would involve a three way swap .
Big Ray
January 26th, 2011
2:09 pm
Translation: things will remain as they have.
“We like our core. We’re willing to be patient.”
Yep.
Zzzzzzzzzzz……
NBA sux
January 26th, 2011
2:10 pm
… until we see what this team can do?
They can cash checks. Thats about it.
They will never make it past the 2nd round of the playoffs w/o an ELITE baller. Joe Johnson is NOT elite. How in the world is he worth $20mil per year? And Marvin… he has developed. What you see is what you get.
The NBA is turrble.
NBA sux
January 26th, 2011
2:12 pm
If the Hawks are serious about contending with the likes of the Heat, they better acquire an elite player like Melo. Otherwise, its time to sell high and start acquiring draft picks.
Art Vandelay
January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm
Adding Carmelo Anthony to the Hawks doesn’t guarantee any improvement at all. He’s never won a thing in the NBA and he’s as one-dimensional a player as there is in the league. Sure, he’s a prolific scorer, but without the ball in his hands, he just occupies space. Defense is an afterthought, and he doesn’t make his teammates better. I mean no disrespect to the greatest Hawk of all time, but Melo is a 21st century Nique — lots of flashy highlights, but nowhere near complete enough to lead a team to a championship.
No thanks.
Glenn
January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm
Oh yeah before Carmelo could play in Atlanta JJ & his silly massive contract would have to be shipped off . Who in the world would want to have to take that .
Rufus1
January 26th, 2011
2:14 pm
http://www.hoopinionblog.com/2011/01/breaking-down-jeff-teagues-backcourt.html
Teague with Joe in the back court.
Art Vandelay
January 26th, 2011
2:15 pm
And Larry, Blake Griffin is the best player in the NBA without tattoos (maybe the best player in the NBA, period). I don’t think he’s likely to be traded.
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The Truth
January 26th, 2011
2:20 pm
MC: You and most of Hawksville know that this Melo-to-ATL chatter that you presented will never happen but I’m glad nonetheless that you changed the conversation from the previous blog topic. For the most part, Teague honeymoon with the Hawks maybe approaching a cross-road with an unfavorable approval rating from most in Hawksville. We certainly don’t want to damage the kid confidence any further with these insightful observations. I’m sure he’ll keep his head up because better days are coming one way or the other. I’m also sure if he’s disappointed and crying; he’s likely doing it all the way to the bank and counting his millions.
MaxxHawk
January 26th, 2011
2:20 pm
Trade JJ, Jamal Crawford, Marvin and a 1st Rd Pick for Carmelo Anthony, assuming he signs an extension and wants to stay in ATL, otherwise don’t give up those guys for a guy that will play 1/2 a season and then leave
J.J.M
January 26th, 2011
2:22 pm
2 ways I would only trade for melo….1 if he can get melo without trading josh or horford im all in 2. if we have to trade josh BUT melo is willing to sign long term with the hawks im all in
SSI FAN
January 26th, 2011
2:23 pm
Josh, Marvin, Jamal, Zaza, Bibby, and first round pick for Carmelo, Chauncey, and Nene
SirReal
January 26th, 2011
2:23 pm
Not gonna happen….not with ASG running the ship. Forget about it….all speculation.
liljb
January 26th, 2011
2:26 pm
@Art Vandelay I would like to add Dwight Howard to best players without tattoos
DB
January 26th, 2011
2:31 pm
Yea right! Next issue
Michael Cunningham
January 26th, 2011
2:33 pm
@ Sec 303: “Michael, your thoughts, do Hawks make a move by the deadline? Yes or no? I know you haven’t heard anything, but gut feeling? I’m saying yes. I just can’t imagine them standing pat (well…actually…I can imagine that, but I don’t think they will.)”
gut feeling? i’m starting to think they will. definitely feel it’s more of a possibility than at this time last year.
Michael Cunningham
January 26th, 2011
2:33 pm
@Freshfromatl: “Uhhhhhhhhh-Ohhhhhhh!!! MC, I don’t know if you should have posted this the way the blog seems to always erupt into NBA 2K11 “fantasy” trade talk smh.”
no harm in it, i guess. have some fun.
Michael Cunningham
January 26th, 2011
2:35 pm
@Adrian: “I always hate “articles” like this and wish it wouldn’t even be reported. I would LOVE to have Melo here but I’d rather not hear about any “inquiries” unless there is evidence the Hawks are currently making a SERIOUS run at him. Otherwise it is wasted space.”
fortunately this won’t make the newspaper, so space is not an issue. just a few kbs on a hard drive somewhere.
Smiling Jack
January 26th, 2011
2:37 pm
It ain’t gonna happen! No way, no how. You may think Sund is dumb, but he’s not so dumb as to decimate the Hawks for the use of one short term player like Mello for the rest of this year.
Michael Cunningham
January 26th, 2011
2:37 pm
@ The Truth: “MC: You and most of Hawksville know that this Melo-to-ATL chatter that you presented will never happen but I’m glad nonetheless that you changed the conversation from the previous blog topic.”
no, i don’t think it will happen. but it was out there, blog people asked me about it, so i addressed it as best i could. such is the way of my biz nowadays.
Marshall
January 26th, 2011
2:39 pm
Based on the recent lawsuit that revealed ASG has been trying to sell the franchise for years, why would Anthony or any high priced free agent consider signing with Atlanta until the ownership situation is cleared up? Of course there could be millions of reasons I’m sure!
Art Vandelay
January 26th, 2011
2:40 pm
liljb, duly noted. I’ve added Dwight to the official Best Players Without Tattoos list.
Jonas Grumby
January 26th, 2011
2:40 pm
The Hawks, as constituted, have no chance of closing the gap on Boston-Miami-Orlando, and now probably even Chicago. They won’t get better with age. In the NBA, you’re only as good as your franchise player and his supporting cast. The Hawks would have to part with some of their supporting players to get a franchise guy.
Halsey
January 26th, 2011
2:43 pm
Melo is a big name and all, but he’s not worth giving up a ton for. Yeah, he puts up nice stats, but what has he ever won in the NBA? The only way it would be worth it is if the Hawks could still keep Josh Smith and Al Horford.
The Grinch
January 26th, 2011
2:53 pm
Smith and Horford are the only Hawks worth paying money to see. Everyone else is expendable.
northcyde
January 26th, 2011
2:53 pm
Melo has done something that no team in Atlanta Hawk history has done . . and that’s reach a conference final.
KG didn’t do jack either, until he got quality players like Cassell and Spreewell to play with. And even then, that team maxed out in the Western Conference Finals.
Paul Pierce never did jack, but even he reached a Conference Finals once
Ray Allen never did jack in Seattle, but did reach a Conference Finals in 2000 with Milwaukee, alongside Cassell and Big Dog.
Pau Gasol never did jack in Memphis, going 0 – 12 in the playoffs.
But as soon as KG and Allen teamed with Pierce, they were a champion. Soon as Gasol teamed with Kobe, he was a champion.
Some of you sound silly in this Melo debate. If the Hawks only lost one of the core players, they’d be better off as a team.
If we could get away with giving up Jamal, Mo, and one of the kids . . and keep the precious “core” intact . . you DEFINITELY do that for a partial season rental.
john mickins
January 26th, 2011
2:55 pm
my god man this is a no brainer. you have no shot in the east as it is since its so top heavy. if u can make the deal make it!
ATL FAN
January 26th, 2011
3:00 pm
Pape Sy has been a beast lately. Check out his highlight at 0:30 in this video.
http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20110121/IDAUTA/gameinfo.html#nbaGIboxscore
Section 303
January 26th, 2011
3:05 pm
northcyde, just for the sake of talk…let’s say the Hawks get ‘Melo as a rental, and manage to keep the sacred “core” intact. You pick them to come out of the East?
I’m not sure…They’re in the conversation, though. You would have a great perimeter game (Joe Johnson, Bibby, ‘Melo, Marvin (sometimes)). Al would still be at the 5 and have matchup issues, which usually means foul trouble. Josh Smith would be at the 4, though. And, with ‘Melo at the 3, I would think Josh would almost be forced (if it is possible to force him to do anything), to play strickly around the basket.
It’s interesting…I still have a hard time giving up someone big just for a rental.
gots to do it now!!!
January 26th, 2011
3:09 pm
Melo and their 2nd next year for J Smith, Crawford and our first next year
northcyde
January 26th, 2011
3:11 pm
If Denver was concerned about cutting payroll, and wanted a little bit of talent in return, I’d trade them
Jamal + Mo + Powell + Jordan . . for Carmelo ( if Melo agrees to sign an extension, toss in a 1st round pick in 2011, which would be in the mid 20s anyway )
Hawks lineup would look like this:
C – Horford
PF – Smith
F – Anthony
G – Johnson
PG – Bibby
6th – Marvin
7th – Zaza
8th – Teague
9th – Wilkins
10th – Collins
11th – Etan
12th – Sy
. . and we’d have to add one more player to make 13. Hell, bring in some scrub big man. Anybody, so that he can dress in a suit every night. And we’d assemble a starting lineup that would rival Boston as being the best in the league.
Marvin would assume the 6th man role he probably should be in anyway. Teague would HAVE to play, satisfying folks in the fan base. JJ or Melo could be on the floor at all times, keeping a potent scorer out on the floor. And the Hawks could generate a buzz in this city for basketbal that hasn’t been seen in the 80s.
The only issue would be . . what number would Melo wear, if Horford refused to give up his number?
dukester
January 26th, 2011
3:12 pm
Once again Northcyde you are right. Im gone dont even want to partake in this madness from some folks on this board. Starting with LARRY!! he must be the biggest racist on the planet. This guy said “bring the best player with tattoos” Sorry larry we wouldnt have a NBA if we got rid of tattooed players. Personally I dont have one and would never get one but me looking at your post from the falcons and hawks I bet you a dollar your a racist. Bring Carmelo home!! And a rebounding and shot blocking center. i could play point guard for this team with those two!!
dukester
January 26th, 2011
3:13 pm
with out tattoes
James
January 26th, 2011
3:13 pm
Denver gets: Mike Bibby & Joe Johnson
Atlanta gets: Chauncey Billups & Carmelo Anthony
That sounds like a good deal to me. I think Melo would sign a extension to stay in Atlanta since his wife Lala has roots in Atlanta she has alot of friends in Atlanta his family will be comfortable in Atlanta which will make him want to stay.
Dikembe Mutombo
January 26th, 2011
3:16 pm
Shakes my finger ..Atlanta will never be winners the south is Football country
terrell
January 26th, 2011
3:19 pm
“Weaken us in other areas”? Other areas like what? We havent had a legit sf in years. Forget the other areas. As long as we dont give up JJ or Al, there’s no way you can tell me Melo want HELP this team. No Way! Bibby/JJ/Melo/Al/Collins is better than what were putting out there right now. Not even close. Give em Josh/Jamal/two 1sts if AT ALL possible. It’s not like we’re going anywhere with the “core” this year anyway. Or next year. Or the year after that. Or the year after that. Or the year after that. And even if he’s a rental, think about all the cap space we’d have to upgrade the center(Nene, Chandler, Perkins, Prizbilla), and pg(Brooks, Parker, Conley, Barea) positions. Then we can replace Melo for a cheap T-Mac. lol!
northcyde
January 26th, 2011
3:21 pm
@ 303
You add Melo to the Hawks, without giving up the “core”, we become VERY DANGEROUS. People wouldn’t make us the favorite in the East ( simply out of hate ). But no way could people overlook us.
That trade I listed works, by the way. That’s a pipe dream type of trade though. But if all they wanted was expiring contracts, and a few pieces of young talent, we could definitely give them that.
I know one thing. That team may still not be able to beat Boston in a playoff series, but they could take out Orlando, Miami, and Chicago in a series.
Melo wouldn’t have to look to average 25 ppg here. He could be sold on playing the balanced attack that Orlando, Boston, and San Antonio comes at people with.
I like my chances with that team . . A LOT.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
3:22 pm
Still dont understand why some people get upset with fantasy trade scenarios or whatever??? It’s a freakin blog for crying out loud.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
3:23 pm
Enter your comments here
Ken Strickland
January 26th, 2011
3:26 pm
The only way the Hawks would get involved with any trade involving Carmelo Anthony would be as a 3rd party for facilator to make the deal go through. We would probably be willing to send an expiring contract(Jamal or MEvans), and/or a draft pick(s), and/or a player(Bibby or Teague)for someone like PG DHarris.
Upgrading our PG position with DHarris would provide much better improvement than upgrading the SF position with CAnthony. CAnthony would give us more of what we already have, and that’s scoring, while DHarris could provide us with scoring, assists, size, versatility, penetrating ability, and better perimeter DEF.
slimjr
January 26th, 2011
3:28 pm
He ain’t coming to the Hawks.Why would he??????Heck even the freaking Nets played in two Championships in the recent past.Your Atlanta Hawks NEVER HAVE………………………………………DUH…………………………………………
Sund=fail
Larry
January 26th, 2011
3:29 pm
“Sorry larry we wouldnt have a NBA if we got rid of tattooed players”
:-O!! ROTLLMAO!!!
slimjr
January 26th, 2011
3:29 pm
Devin Harris for President yesterday!!!! Devin, Devin,Devin……………….
Stephen
January 26th, 2011
3:32 pm
Considering the drama around this ownership group in regards to the recent news about the Thrashers and them basically considering them a dead asset, it would make sense to drum up some more positive PR by being active in trying to get involved with bring Carmelo here. If we traded Josh Smith, Williams,Crawford and a draft pick for Carmelo and JR Smith (or Billups), would that work?
terrell
January 26th, 2011
3:34 pm
“Melo has never won in the NBA.” Neither has Lebron, CP3, Deron, Barkley, Nique, etc………… And??
SiCkOfThiS
January 26th, 2011
3:34 pm
The AJC likes to post junk before they know what they’re talking about. Oh dear, faithful readers, don’t believe a word this nonsense
terrell
January 26th, 2011
3:43 pm
Ken, but Melo scores in a alot of different ways than this team does. He can fininsh at the rim. He can take it to the hole. He gets to the free throw line. He can post up. Name me 1 player on opur team who can do that? All we do is shoot freakin jumpshots. The’re’s more to scoring, than just scoring? If you know what I mean. If Melo’s jumper isnt falling, he can do other things. We’re basically done when our shots arent falling.
honky talkin'
January 26th, 2011
3:48 pm
What a non-story. There is no chance of the Hawks ever getting a high-profile player like Melo. we are doomed for mediocrity with the current ownership. The source for this is Bullsh!t.
STRETCH
January 26th, 2011
3:50 pm
Dikembe Mutombo,
In case you are NOT up on current and recent events, Atlanta and as of lately, the whole state of GA is NOT even football country.
Freshfromatl
January 26th, 2011
3:54 pm
terrell,
Stop It with your wet dream about Carmelo already!!!! It ain’t happening!! If the trade not involved getting a major defensive presense in the post, or a top-flight point guard, the Hawks may as well keep what they have now.
Once again, Melo is not improving this team in no way, shape, form or fashion if you have to give up Josh, Al, or Joe.
ASHCAN.
January 26th, 2011
3:55 pm
Trade joe johnson for him,then if he don’t resign,we will have cap space to sign crawford and another free agent vet.Im sorry but joe johnson is not even close worth the money he’s making.
jfreak13713
January 26th, 2011
4:00 pm
I would trade ANYONE on the Hawks team for Melo if we could sign him long term? I would tell them to take their pick of any two guys they wanted (Johnson and Marvin Williams) would be nice!
Boneyard Randy
January 26th, 2011
4:10 pm
DO NOT TRADE JOSH OR AL. We don’t need another 3 or 4. Go get a 1. Trade anyone but Josh or Al.
AS
January 26th, 2011
4:30 pm
Get rid of Marvin William, he sucks.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:35 pm
lol @ Freshfromatl. Why are you so upset? Get off the blog, or skip my posts if it makes you feel better about yourself. I’n just having a little fun. Thats what blogs are for. Clown!
Will
January 26th, 2011
4:40 pm
I say the Hawks NEED to get rid of Joe Johnson and Bibby!
Paying 120mil for Johnson was heartbreaking! I think we should have paid 120mil to a player like Mello!
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:41 pm
Melo is not improving this team in no way, shape, form, or fashion, if you have to give up Joe, Josh, or Al”. Is that so? Sounds like an opinion to me. But whatever. lol!
Guido
January 26th, 2011
4:43 pm
Marvin and Bibby for Deron Williams is a Mega Move
JSS
January 26th, 2011
4:44 pm
dukester
January 26th, 2011
3:12 pm
“Once again Northcyde you are right. Im gone dont even want to partake in this madness from some folks on this board. Starting with LARRY!! he must be the biggest racist on the planet. This guy said “bring the best player with tattoos” Sorry larry we wouldnt have a NBA if we got rid of tattooed players. Personally I dont have one and would never get one but me looking at your post from the falcons and hawks I bet you a dollar your a racist.”
Well said… But he’ll say: “that he’s color blind.”
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:44 pm
Yall must be smoking if you think we’re better of with Josh at sf, than Melo. You guys must absolutely love JUMPERS. I like players who cna score in a variety of different ways. Not 1 dimensional scorers(jumpshooters). Only player we have like that is Jamal.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:45 pm
And btw, Smoove’s defense is overated as hell.
Guido
January 26th, 2011
4:49 pm
Terrell that’s not true when he is out the game teams attack the paint big time.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:52 pm
Joe can adapt to the motion offense but Carmelo cant???? Wow! I know the trade more than likely wont happen, but some of you people act like we can compete in the East with the “core”. Laughable to say the least.
Michael Cunningham
January 26th, 2011
4:54 pm
@terrell: ““Weaken us in other areas”? Other areas like what? We havent had a legit sf in years. Forget the other areas. As long as we dont give up JJ or Al, there’s no way you can tell me Melo want HELP this team. No Way! Bibby/JJ/Melo/Al/Collins is better than what were putting out there right now. Not even close. Give em Josh/Jamal/two 1sts if AT ALL possible.”
well, for starters, your trade just severely weakened the interior D without compensating for that by adding some perimeter D. have you seen what happens when Josh is out of the game? layup line.
areukiddingme
January 26th, 2011
4:55 pm
Carmelo would be the greatest hawk of all time. Even as a rental. Gimme a freggin break, none of u naysayers know a damn thing about basketball.
Will Sevidal
January 26th, 2011
4:55 pm
Carmelo Anthony in a Hawks jersey.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
4:56 pm
Never said Smoove wasnt a good defender, but you guys act like his defense cant be replaced.
Freshfromatl
January 26th, 2011
4:57 pm
terrell,
I’m not upset (child please!). I’m actually at work right now thinking about were I would like to have dinner tonight with my beautiful lady-friend
However you’re most likely gonna be very upset because any logical thinking person knows this trade is not gonna happen. And with that being said, I’ll leave this entire internet space here just for you so you can continue typing out your fantasy on Carmelo. Dueces!
Playoffs?// Playoffs?? Your asking me about Playoffs?
January 26th, 2011
5:01 pm
To Atlanta ?R U kidding! LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLLOOLLOOLOOLOLLOL
jason delane
January 26th, 2011
5:01 pm
anybody says trade josh smith is mental. he makes the hawks interesting and fun to watch so kill that noise people
Braindead atl fanslayoffs?
January 26th, 2011
5:05 pm
I hear it’s really gonna happen -right after Kobe goes to the knicks straight up for Eddie Curry and Wade goes to Detroit straight up for Greg Monroe
ATLBorn
January 26th, 2011
5:10 pm
I don’t know what it would take to get Melo but if they were willing to take Josh Smith, Marvin Williams and a 1st rd pick we should make that deal before the Nuggets ownership are committed to the looney bin and run down Peachtree laughing like hell. If the Nuggets would be dumb enough to take Joe Johnson, a role player and a 1st rounder for him (not sure if Joe’s contract would work with this deal) then we really would’ve gotten over on them. If we can get Melo with out giving up Horford and half of the team we should do it.
Double Zero Eight
January 26th, 2011
5:13 pm
Didn’t we rent Danny Manning? That did not turn out well.
He was suppose to be the missing link when we got him,
and was gone the next year.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 26th, 2011
5:13 pm
I posted a Trade Machine link during the previous blog’s Melo discussion of a three way trade which I think would have a chance of being accepted by all sides and would improve the Hawks (contingent of course on Melo signing an extension, without which any trade for Melo would be a Teixeirian disaster).
Hawks would get Melo and Rip Hamilton
Pistons would get Marvin, Mo, and Teague
Nuggets would get Joe Johnson, a Hawks first rounder, and a Pistons first rounder
Hawks swap out their leading scorer for a better leading scorer and swap out their overpaid small forward for a more overpaid but much better 2 guard with championship experience
Nuggets get back an All Star and picks to replace Melo
Pistons shed a huge contract and locker room distraction from their payroll and gain a prospect still on his rookie scale deal, saving a total of about $13 million in salary spread out over three years
With all that said, I think the Hawks can get Nash for a much more reasonable price, and I’d ideally like to see them pursue a Nash trade.
Snatchandgrab
January 26th, 2011
5:15 pm
You never know. His wife used to be a radio dj here in Atlanta.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
5:19 pm
MC, so why is it that we can get blown out when the mighty Josh Smith is playing such great defense? Hell, I see people attacking the paint when he’s in there. And youre right, it’s the perimeter d that kills us. But Smoove nor Melo can help with that. Thats why I’d go with Melo. Heck, a guy like a Craig Smith, or Reggie Evans, could compensate for Smooves absence on the defensive end. Trade a couple of our bench players(Mo/Teague) for one of those guys while adding Melo and I think we’re a better team.
Bibby/JJ/Melo/Horford/Collins
Jamal/Mo/Marvin/Evans/Zaza
JC2/Damien
And once again, I know the trade probably wont happen. Just havin a little fun. lol! Never no though.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 26th, 2011
5:20 pm
“And btw, Smoove’s defense is overated as hell.”
Every defensive stat on basketball-reference disagrees with you. Last time I checked (five days ago) Smoove was the only player in the league who is top 20 in steals, blocks, defensive rating, and defensive win shares. If Dwight Howard were to get abducted by aliens, Smoove would have a very legit case for Defensive Player of the Year.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
5:23 pm
Freshfromatl, said “Terrell stop it with your wet dream about Carmelo already!!!!” Sounds like you were a little ticked off to me. Why else would you start the name calling? It’s all good though.
J. J. MM
January 26th, 2011
5:23 pm
A trade for ‘Melo would definitely interrupt the chemistry of this team.. Not sure if he can fit in with the “motion” offense style of play. Sharing the ball not one of his better attributes. Losing the core players would weaken the Hawks this year but years to come.
ReddJonn68
January 26th, 2011
5:24 pm
Alan Hahn needs to leave those funny style cigarettes alone!
ReddJonn68
January 26th, 2011
5:39 pm
A more realistic goal is to trade for a center before the deadline with these injuries that we have been having, some help in the post against these strong Eastern Conf. teams would be perfect. Somebody like a Brendan Haywood type a decent passing guy that plays a little defense is great for the motion offense.
wend28
January 26th, 2011
5:39 pm
Everybody and their brother has inquired about Carmelo playing for their team. Carmelo doesn’t want to play in Atlanta. It’s NYC or bust for him.
Bird
January 26th, 2011
5:43 pm
Billups is washed up, rather keep Bibby.
tony
January 26th, 2011
5:59 pm
Send JJ, JS and JT to Denver for Carmelo and Ty Lawson. With this trade we now have a true pg(Lawson). All we need now is a true center.
Draft Keith Benson.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekNfbYNNswU
FLAsucks
January 26th, 2011
6:09 pm
Give them Bibby, Marvin, and a draft pick for Melo
Einsteindawg
January 26th, 2011
6:11 pm
A Carmello trade to the Hawks would have the same effect as Marbury to the Nicks.
Poopie Head
January 26th, 2011
6:11 pm
I am laughing my tooshie off over the comments on here. I especially like the people defending “JSmoove’s” Defense. Since when has there been any Defense in the NBA? The NBA sucks badly.
Does anyone really think the Hawks have a chance in the next 5 years? Seriously? They should trade for draft picks ASAP. Do you want a decent team for the next five years just to get trounced in the 2nd round of the playoffs every year OR do you want a young nucleus built through the draft playing together for the next ten years playing for championships. The goal is to win it all, and this team sure as hell won’t!
nba= no defense= poopie
Poopie Head
January 26th, 2011
6:14 pm
also, nice job management.
Carmelo’s $20million > Joe Johnson’s $20million.
Seriously, thats the Hawks go to guy?
slimjr
January 26th, 2011
6:15 pm
Melo would be crazy to come to Atlanta. He aint……….
Air Zaza
January 26th, 2011
6:16 pm
Melo/Nene/Harrington for Smoove/Jamal/Marvin
terrell
January 26th, 2011
7:05 pm
JWill released by Orlando. Could he help us?
terrell
January 26th, 2011
7:06 pm
“Melo would be crazy to come to Atlanta”. He’d be even crazier if he went to NJ.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
7:07 pm
If he wants to win, that is.
Thomas
January 26th, 2011
7:12 pm
Not enough basketballs to go around for both Joe and Melo…. bad idea
TRADE 4 NASH
January 26th, 2011
7:17 pm
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4l4z4vu
terrell
January 26th, 2011
7:23 pm
Thomas, people said the same thing about Lebron and Wade.
terrell
January 26th, 2011
7:31 pm
Bucks sign guard Garrett Temple to a 10 day contract. Must no Bibby’s coming to town. lol!
Dion
January 26th, 2011
8:17 pm
No trades…Hawks will be swept again in the 2nd round. If the Hawks are serious and want to compete or just maintain the status quo i.e., have to sell tickets for 7.50 and market/promo/beg folks to attend games! They MUST make a big trade! Bring in Melo; everyone else, except JJ, Horford, and Jamaal or Smith(pick one) should be subject to trade including a future first round pick. I read people talking about get rid of JJ, no elite player would come to play with the hawks without JJ as a core player.
bill
January 26th, 2011
9:13 pm
Anybody on this blog that thinks the ASG would get Melo without trading JJ, Al or Josh in a package is drinking the Kool-Aid…get real.
superiorblogman
January 26th, 2011
10:39 pm
A. Larry Drew is as inconsistent as the Hawks players are. He does not understand gameflow.
B. Josh Smith takes too many shots.
C. Al Horford does not get enough shots.
D. The Hawks will never win anything worthy of noting until they get another legit starting PG and C.
slimjr
January 26th, 2011
11:43 pm
With 4 mins left on the clock in the 4th qtr, hawks scored 3 pts!!! That will you some playoff games!! NOT..JOSH WHY ARE YOU SHOOTING 3’s in the 4th??YOU CANT SHOOT DUDE!!!!!
Publix
January 27th, 2011
12:47 am
We need to send Marvin, Crawford, and Zaza to Denver for Mello and Birdman.
Then we need to send Evans to Phoenix for Garret Siler.
Bring Pape Sy back to the team and resign Mario West.
PG- Teague
SG- Johnson
SF- Mello
PF- Smith
C- Horford
PG-Bibby (new instant offense off the bench to replace JC1)
SG-Crawoford
SF-Wilkins
PF-Powell
C-Siler
Sy and Collins are still there together with West to complete the team.
Alsandair Barnes
January 27th, 2011
1:58 am
Anything to get Joe Johnson off the Hawks hands !!!!
EmirS.
January 27th, 2011
3:24 am
Smoove’s defense replaceable? Go look at available free agents and tell me who you can get to replace his defense. And whiel your at it, see if that free agent can replace his offense as well. If there was anyone, Mark Cuban would have already snatched them up. Point is Smoove is hard to replace. Only person you could honestly replace him with, would be a younger Tayshaun Prince.
Let’s be realistic here. You cant move Smoove. I’ve bashed him for his shot selection and attitude, but you move him and you lose to much. Mr.Melo wont bring you defense. He is an elite scorer. We all know that. But I would not put Smoove in any trade talks involving Melo. Extension or not. We are’nt the Heat or the Magic, that will go out and fill in the missing pieces. Do you honestly beleive that if we somehow got Melo in a trade that involved Smith, that Mr.Sund would go out and look for some defense!?
And dont anyone of you dare and mention Chris “Birdman” Andersen. I think after the ‘05 All-Star weekend he should retire that whole “Birdman” thing.
ANYWAYS, back to topic. I think we need to move Al Horford. That dude is a beast. But I dont think he’s at his full potential with the Hawks. I’d hate to lose him, but If I’m able to keep JJ and Smoove while adding Melo (w/ extension) I’m all for it. And would the Nuggets NOT want to build around a young, strong, smart, beastly power forward?
Now ofcourse the problem with that is how well would Smoove do as a full-time 4. I don’t know which position he perfers. Anyone know?
ATown Vet
January 27th, 2011
9:35 am
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4stzy6q
This is how you get Melo to the ATL and compete for a championship this year and the next.
HWJ
January 27th, 2011
10:20 am
Marvin is garbage we need to trade him asap… Also we have no shot at Carmelo Anthony
HWJ
January 27th, 2011
10:22 am
PUBLIX wait wait wait please no Mario West talk…. wow he is so bad
Ennis W.
January 27th, 2011
10:25 am
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shake&break
January 27th, 2011
10:50 am
I know see why JJ called some of the Hawks fans out. You complain about JJ and Jamal using Iso’s over and over. But, Carmelo is just as much a ISO player as JJ or Jamal ever have been. Some will say he scores in different ways. Well, JJ scores in the post, on ISO’s, on three’s, on mid range.
Plus, if you look at Carmelo’s numbers he currently averages about four more points than JJ does and two or so rebounds more. Yet, he averages less assists than JJ (so goes your motion offense). However, some of you believe trading JJ and Jamal (or some similar tandem) for Carmelo would make the Hawks so much better. You take JJ and Jamal off the floor and you lose about 40 points a night, plus two guys that can break the defense down and one guy (JJ) that is a solid defensive player, a ample ball handler and usually has a mismatch ever night.
shake&break
January 27th, 2011
11:30 am
The NBA is a game of non-self made men. There are few self-made men (Steve Nash come to mind) in the NBA, but very few. The NBA either rides the coattails of a big time player (Jordan, Magic, Bird, Kobe, Wade, Shaq, Lebron) or relies on the NBA financial coffins to hype a player (Carmelo, B. Roy, Ginobili, Arenas, R. Allen, V. Carter, Iggy, B. Davis) to push them into a level where they really are not. If JJ had ever received the NBA promo and media packages the last group of guys have received in their careers he would likely be more highly thought of in the fan’s eyes. However, I bet you ask most NBA teams and coaches they will tell you JJ is a stud.
Point is, If you compare JJ’s numbers over the past five or so years (points, assists, rebounds, defense) then the only other players that can attest to the same numbers are Kobe, Lebron and Wade. Although, you never hear his name in mainstream media. Is he worth $120 million, I don’t know, but, I can guarantee you that if JJ had the same numbers in a better market than Atlanta and a little NBA promo then the $120 million would not be such a big issue. Some will say it is not JJ’s personality to be a NBA promo player, but I say look at D. Rose, B. Roy, Greg Oden, B. Griffin, and even L. Bird. Those players were forced to become NBA media stars even though they are not the most camera friendly.
Dale
January 27th, 2011
4:18 pm
After watching the Hwks last night against Milwaukee and seeing how they blew the lead 9again) and how this team relaxes as if they are up 25 points and seeing how Josh Smith repeatedly took bad shots and how he barely played defense…I say…H*ll yeah trade Josh, marvin and Bibby for Melo, and Billups……we have no crunch players and Bibby cannot run a team and control the pace as a starter any longer.. Ship them out. Last night prove why I cannot simply invest my money into a team that will play an entire game……Losing to Milwaukee…come on…Milwaukee who had their three best players (Redd, Jennings & Salmons) not on the flor..Give me a break!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jason
January 27th, 2011
6:47 pm
http://www.hoopsnotes.com/teams/atlanta/hawks-in-touch-with-nuggets-about-melo/