Game thread, Hawks-Bobcats
Charlotte – Greetings, all. MC is taking the day off. Watching, literally, one of the worst performances of NBA basketball in league history can take its toll. (Just kidding. It was planned all along to give him a break.)
Some stunning numbers from the number crunchers at Elias Sports Bureau, via ESPN:
It was the first time in NBA history that a team that was at least 10 games over .500 going into the game lost at home by 40 or more points.
It was the team’s second-lowest point total in club history in the shot-clock era, going back to a 1955 loss to Boston when they were the Milwaukee Hawks. I think that was Jason Collins‘ rookie year.
It was the fewest points by a home team since Miami scored 56 in a loss to Utah Dec. 2001.
The Hawks’ 29.1 field-goal percentage was the lowest by an NBA team this season and the team’s lowest in any game since moving to Atlanta.
Yowzers.
Let’s see what basketball-reference.com can tell us about the games following those majestic collapses. After the Milwaukee Hawks lost to Boston in 1955, they lost the next game (a back-to-back) to Philadelphia 101-84.
After the Heat lost 95-56 to Utah, they lost the next game 86-81 to Cleveland in overtime. The Cavs shot 37.5 percent and the Heat shot 35.2 percent. Goodness gracious. I believe that was the year the NBA experimented playing games with yoga balls.
After the Hawks lost 118-74 to Phoenix in March 2000 – the last time the Hawks lost by that many points at home – they followed it up going on the road and losing to Houston 115-93 on their way to a nine-game losing streak. Your starting five against Phoenix –Dikembe Mutombo, Alan Henderson, Jason Terry, Roshown McLeod, Jim Jackson.
Sorry I don’t have more information to offer you right now. I’m in my hotel room right now and will be on the way to the arena in a little bit.
About the Bobcats – they’ve won their last two and six of their last nine. Guard D.J. Augustin went for 31 in their 100-97 win over Philly Thursday. Hawks tormentor Gerald Wallace – he had 11, 25, 20 and 28 last year – only had six against the Sixers, so he might be ready to pop a little bit. He missed the Hawks’ first game with Charlotte this season.
This is totally not relevant to the discussion, but Wallace killed it last year against the West. He had 45 in two games against Denver, 48 against Golden State, 49 against the Clippers, 50 against Phoenix, 66 against Sacramento and 57 against Utah. But, anyway, his 21.0 against the Hawks was tied for second highest of any team in the East.
Joe Johnson’s 16.7 ppg against Charlotte last year was tied for third-lowest of any team in the league. (Orlando, then Philadelphia and tie with Toronto)
Josh Smith did fairly well last year against Charlotte – 52.8 field-goal percentage, 15.8 ppg and 7.8 rpg. Interestingly (well, you can decide that), Smith is having his best scoring and rebounding month thus far in January at 16.9 and 9.8, but his worst shooting month, 40.6 percent.
O.K., enough nerding out. I’ll be back in a little while.
Ken Sugiura, Hawks writer
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DO A BIG TRADES
January 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm
IT’S OUR TOY BEAT THE B CATS YHE NETS AND GET KICKED IN PLAYOFFS
GO HAWKS
DO A BIG TRADES
January 22nd, 2011
4:56 pm
* THE
J from the A
January 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm
Is Jason Collins going to be suspended for this game?
SteveW
January 22nd, 2011
5:26 pm
Glad Acie’s found a home with GSW. Averaging 15 mpg and shooting 60% in his last 5. Good backup PG
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Paradise Lost
January 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm
J from the A: saw a Tweet an hour ago that said Twin arrived at the arena with the Hawks, so hopefully no suspension.
Worldwide Clyde
January 22nd, 2011
6:08 pm
Free Jordan Crawford
If Joe can’t get the job done put the rookie in the game.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
6:10 pm
Josh Powell is suspended for tonight’s game for conduct detrimental to the team.
This is the guy who was supposedly going to be such a valuable addition because he’s a great locker room guy and has all that championship experience.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:16 pm
Powell must have really stepped in it if Drew felt he had to suspend him while they are so short-handed down low.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm
Or, hopefully, Drew is calling everybody to account for the way they played last night. Hopefully he is not going to put up with any more crap. After the Boston loss, I believe, Drew suggested that the players were staying out to late partying.
Rufus1
January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm
Perspective
That was the same game we played against Miami, except for 2 things…..We won the game against Miami with Defense and the Heat didn’t have a CP3 kind of player to exploit our back court.
The case for Teague…
The case was made last night for a Teague kind of player playing 15-20min a night. His change of pace, speed and defense against players like CP3 is a needed asset. When Bibby isn’t hiting shots against a PG like CP3….What do we have…NOTHING.
I am not saying Teague should be the starter, but he should more consistant minutes.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm
to = too
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm
If Bibby misses his first two shots he should be yanked immediately
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
6:28 pm
a couple updates: Najeh is correct; Powell has been suspended for one game and will re-join the team at the next practice. Drew considers the matter over.
Starting lineup: Bibby, Evans, Johnson, Smith and….Zaza Pachulia in his first start of the year. Drew said starting Pachulia over Collins was a move to get the offense going.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
6:29 pm
Also, as expected, Al Horford and Marvin Williams did not make the trip. Drew sounded like he expected Horford to play Wednesday against Milwaukee.
D-MAN
January 22nd, 2011
6:31 pm
Is Horford in the lineup tnite?
D-MAN
January 22nd, 2011
6:32 pm
nevermind…..
Paradise Lost
January 22nd, 2011
6:32 pm
Rev: I’m curious to know exactly how much power an NBA coach has to suspend a player for partying (or other similar conduct) in their off-hours? Or in terms of holding players accountable for how they play…do coaches suspend players or just bench them? JP played no better/worse than any other Hawk on the floor last night.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
6:41 pm
When using Zaza counts as a move to “get the offense going”, you know you have depth issues.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
6:42 pm
On the pregame show Jerome Jurenovich said that Powell got suspended for “the way he voiced his displeasure with last night’s loss” or some sh-t.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
6:45 pm
As thin as the Hawks are inside, the Bobcats are arguably even thinner with DeSagana Diop out for the season and Tyrus Thomas out for the next two months.
Oldtimer
January 22nd, 2011
6:48 pm
Things must have been really bad for Powell to be suspended with being short on big men and all.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:50 pm
“On the pregame show Jerome Jurenovich said that Powell got suspended for “the way he voiced his displeasure with last night’s loss”
Good for Powell. I hope he named names.
Paradise Lost, I was not saying Powell played any worse than anyone else last night or that he had been out partying. I was disappointed, however, in Powell’s shot selection in last night’s game. He seemed to be looking for his shot when he was closely guarded rather than looking for his teammates. It resulted in him taking some fadeaway jumpshots with people in his face.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
6:52 pm
Najeh,
I have no issues with Powell voicing his displeasure over last night’s game. But there is a right way to do it. I guess we will never know.
Maybe his actions will wake up the other players.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
6:52 pm
I was really wanting ‘Nique to call out the players last night in “Barkley” fashion instead of just agreeing with Bob.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
6:53 pm
no.. no Stinger..
Kwame is a (GA) high school basketball product.. not Atlanta..
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm
From the previous blog;
“1) our star players just aren’t as good as people hype them up to be ( talking about JJ, Al, and especially Josh, whom people think is a top 3 PF in the league, by the way they hype him up )” northcyde.
I think these people also include Rick Sund and the ASG.
Oldtimer
January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
But Rev, i think Nique is an employee of ASG, so he has to be concerned with what he says. I am not disagreeing with your intention; just think Barkley has a little more freedom because he is not associated with any team.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
Rev,
‘Nique and Bob are big time homers. You will hardly ever hear them criticize the Hawks.
And remember, ‘Nique is the one who thought Marvin was a once every 10 years talent (or something like that).
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:00 pm
“I have no issues with Powell voicing his displeasure over last night’s game. But there is a right way to do it. I guess we will never know.”
Neither do I, but I would prefer that it came from someone who didn’t suck. On the floor, Powell is part of the problem more often than he is a part of the solution.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm
January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
O’Brien said:
‘Nique and Bob are big time homers. You will hardly ever hear them criticize the Hawks.
Not like Steve Holdman,Holemen or whatever the radio play by play guy for the hawks name is..
Every foul against the hawks is a conspiracy to that guy..
I wish him well,but i hate listening to him call games on the radio when im out and driving home from work..
God forbid him to move to television,EWWWW!!
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm
as i understand it, i think it had a little more to do with playing time.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:06 pm
hawks in red unis again.
frank thomas sang the national anthem. (not that one)
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:06 pm
Good move by Drew to start Zaza. Collins should only start against low post scoring bigs that the other team looks to run some offense through. That way, his defensive talents can be used as an asset.
Against other types of centers, he’s just not going to give you enough rebounding and scoring to be an asset.
Playing Zaza is the right move. Let him scrap for loose offensive rebounds and see if he can get 8 – 10 points that way.
What will hurt us tonight, is if Josh gets in foul trouble. With no Marvin and no Powell, Etan will be forced to play the 4 . . . unless we move JJ to the 4.
That’s why I said that last night’s game isn’t indicitive of what the Hawks really are.
If the guards start out slow tonight, we could get blown out again.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:09 pm
local writer says stephen jackson has gotten t’d up a bunch of times by tonight’s crew. something to watch for… (not that makes this crew unique)
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:10 pm
LOL @ Najeh 7:00 . . exactly.
Dude ain’t been part of a regular rotation since he played with the Clippers. Who in the heck is he to be complaining about PT?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:11 pm
An airball from Mo. Great start already.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:12 pm
Ken . . you gonna post your thoughts throughout the game? I hope you do, just to give us a perspective of how you see the game live.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:13 pm
Al who?
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:13 pm
bibby has five points, which is five more than he scored last night.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm
Collins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zaza
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm
Wow, Zaza quickly reminded me why we need Al Horford
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm
Bibby tired of people talking crap about him. That a way to make an early impact.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm
Really, the rest of the Hawks should know better by now than to pass it to Zaza in a position where he might get blocked or stripped.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:16 pm
Zaza should not get credit for that last rebound since it was his clumsyness that caused him to turn it over.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:17 pm
LOL . . please play better defense.
Please?
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:18 pm
drew apparently likes josh vs. diaw
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
7:19 pm
Whew, can they just turn off the shot clock and put us out of our misery with these injuries and malcontent moments?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:19 pm
“Zaza should not get credit for that last rebound since it was his clumsyness that caused him to turn it over.”
If Zaza was held to that standard for his whole career he would lose about 75% of his career rebounds.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:21 pm
Smoove just showed on that last post up why he doesn’t drive the ball more. His right hand is about as useful as Jim Abbott’s right hand.
Smoove shooting jumpers > Smoove going to his right.
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
7:22 pm
Hey Ken are you to get the Dream and Ga State from now on?
Kitchen Sink
January 22nd, 2011
7:22 pm
Anyone else think that last night’s blowout was on purpose as a message from the team to the owners after the revelations yesterday?
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:23 pm
two possessions in a row poor clock mgmt.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:23 pm
From the point of view of someone who wants to see good basketball, this game is even worse than last night’s game.
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
7:27 pm
@ Sink…
No, this team has no built-in sense of “an opportunity.”
Paradise Lost
January 22nd, 2011
7:27 pm
Rev: My apologies for not reading your post correctly. However, it did pique my curiosity about the power of an NBA coach (vs a college coach who has absolute power) to deal with player conduct and performance. LD has repeatedly mentioned accountability for performance throughout the season, and has touched on rumors of player conduct after-hours, so I’m wondering how far his power extends to effectively deal with those issues (beyond benching and limiting minutes).
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:33 pm
In the immortal words of Clyde… yawn.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
7:33 pm
It sure would be nice to see the Hawks guard the other team PG with a PG…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
7:35 pm
I guess the Hawks should have call up Sy for tonight’s game….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:36 pm
Damn, Eduardo Najera would have stumped the hell out of me in a game of Who He Play Fo.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:38 pm
Damn Etan, even Zaza wouldn’t have missed that dunk.
Mr. PJ Johnson
January 22nd, 2011
7:38 pm
When is Josh Smith going to stop taking Jump shots, Larry Drew needs to be more strict and bring order to this dysfunctional team.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
7:38 pm
Ken,
Stephen Jackson got his tech…lol
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:39 pm
Paradise Lost,
You are probably right about the limited authority of the professional coaches. I was venting rather than thinking when I posted. A man in my church who is with a professional baseball organization tells me that when the coach is really needing to exercise his authority he will call the player out in the media. Other than that they don’t have a lot of authority.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
7:39 pm
northcyde, Najeh,
My guess is Josh Powell was promised consistent PT to sign with the Hawks. But that has not been the case.
*Disclaimer: Part of his lack of PT is due to his performance though, not due to LD.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:39 pm
I kind of wished Drew would’ve taken out JJ before the end of the quarter, to get him a little more rest. He may have to go 42+ minutes tonight. Josh too.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:42 pm
melvin – pretty funny, huh.
JSS – probably not the dream, probably georgia state. at least football.
Sink – i doubt it. the players are getting paid. i’m not sure they have anything to complain about. plus, the issues are more with thrashers
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
7:45 pm
Keep it simple Jamal. No need to go for the homerun ball every other shot.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
7:45 pm
Enter your comments here
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
7:46 pm
lol @ how Etan just animatedly grabbed the board..
like he was so high in the air.. smh.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:47 pm
a remarkable number of airballs tonight.
livingston making a nic elittle run on bibby.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:47 pm
Worst 3 on 1 break ever.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
7:48 pm
WTF, MO….
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:48 pm
That was ugly.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
7:48 pm
Mo could f_ck up a wet dream. Damn!
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
7:49 pm
FAIL.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
7:49 pm
Livingston was VERY available in the off season. Anybody else think he’d be starting for us? Or at the very least playing more than Teague?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:52 pm
Here comes the late 2nd quarter run, just like last night.
Hawks lose this one by 9.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:53 pm
That’s exactly what the Hawks need.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
bumped knees on the way down..?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
Joe can barely move.
When you only have four good players on your team, it’s not a great situation when two of them are injured.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
wally blase checking jj’s injury.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
Sautee
LOL! Wet Dreams! ROF!
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
7:54 pm
I hope JJ is okay. If not it will be interesting to see JC2 get some quality minutes with the better players.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
Sautee,
Livingston is making $3.5 mil. no way the hawks would pay him that much, especially since they were hoping Teague would play more minutes.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
Looked like he just came down hard on his left leg and his knee took the punishment. Hopefully he just jammed it or something. At least he could walk off the floor.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:55 pm
jj has big wrap on right knee, testing out flexibility.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
7:56 pm
Bibby just gives Josh the ball to do whatever w/ it.. he had nothing. 2-3 cats in lane.. drove to kick it to Wilkins for a brick attempt ends up w/ a charge.
need better pg play Mike..
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
7:57 pm
O’B,
Yeah, I checked his salary after my post and realized that very thing.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
7:57 pm
Damn! I thought joe knocked knees with Wallace. But, he is writhing in pain!
OMG! I hope he is ok and didn’t sprain it or tear an ACL! Fingers Crossed!
Pray Yall! Pray!
hbcuclassics
January 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
2011 HBCU Draft Board – WRs (1-5)
1. Raymond Webber 6′2, 218 WR Ark-PB
AP/FCS All-American, Walter Payton Award Finalist
led NCAA 101 rec. 1,429yds 10TDs 129.9ypg.
only receiver w/ more receptions is Jerry Rice.
Coach: Monte Coleman (don’t be stupid on this one)
2. Ricardo Lockette, 6′3, 199 WR/KR FVSU
2009 DII 200 Meter Champion
23 rec./232 yds. 4.39-4.41/40yd. dash
Mentor: Terrence Mathis – track guy
3. Ronnie Childs 6′2 195 WR Albany State
BASN All-American, All-SIAC, SIAC Champ 11-1
45 rec./ 22ypc./12TDs – (all he does is catch TDs)
4. Jeremy Franklin 6′3, 199 WR/KR JC Smith
3x All-CIAA, JC Smith All-time leading receiver
55 rec/823 yds/5 TDs – fierce, beats up DBs.
5. Larrone Moore 6′0, 185 WR/KR Delaware St.
25 rec. 450yds 4TDs, 18.8ypc – another track guy
2x Maryland 4A 100m champ, 55m Maryland State champ
4.29-4.36/ 40yd dash (has Deion-like speed)
http://www.hbcuclassics.com
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
Hawks have been slow as hell on rotations all game long, and they are lucky the Bobcats suck bad enough that they haven’t made them pay for it.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
nomination – ugliest possession that earns points.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
7:59 pm
Damien gave Wallace the baseline to his dominate hand.. dont understand that. kicked it to Jack for 3.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:00 pm
Bobacats doing a good job of finding the open shooters against the Hawks zone.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:00 pm
DJ uses his dribble well.. sets the table.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
8:00 pm
Bob just quoted an amazing (and not at all surprising) stat. The Hawks attempt the 4th fewest shots in the paint in the league.
We need to slash more out of this offense. God, I wish we had G. Wallace.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:01 pm
The Hawks are if anything playing worse tonight than they did last night. Lucky for them they are going up against a really bad team. Of course they are still down by 5 against this really bad team.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:01 pm
ZaZa would rather be @ a fashion show.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:01 pm
I am watching on the computer so maybe the computer got slow for a moment, but the english on Jamaal’s layup was crazy. It was on the play where he walked. The ball seemed to climb over the rim from beneath.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
8:02 pm
bigdave,
Its nice to see a PG use his dribble to break down a defense, isn’t it?
All Bibby does, is by the 3 pt line in case he gets a pass and has to shoot.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:02 pm
Joe the 1st to stand and cheer on Mikes 3 attempt and miss. i think he’s ok..
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
not a good showing. not moving the ball, a lot of one-on-one, which is probably not a great formula for a team without two starters and their best player on the bench.
Ra'mon
January 22nd, 2011
8:03 pm
O’Brien, you mean its nice to see TWO PGs use their dribble to break down the defense.
I would trade Crawford for Augustine and Kwame in a second.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:04 pm
Rev..
i saw that.. the ball was on the lip of the rim and just dropped slowly right in..
he gets the craziest bounces from the iron..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:05 pm
The Dark Knight is on TNT. Terrible game, or great movie? Decisions, decisions.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
i wouldnt even need Kwame in such deal..
just give me DJ and plant him @ your pg spot for 9-10yrs.
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
8:06 pm
@ Hbcu…
Thanks for the answer…
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:07 pm
Shout Out! To Ken Sigura, fantastic job of feeding the fans LIVE!
You are spoiling us! – Mmmmmwah! (Big sloppy kiss)
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Hawks playing with energy, they just need to play under control now.
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bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:08 pm
O’brien..
too bad we dont have a pg that could allow Mike to move to his Eddie House role.
he’d look nice w/ the 2nd unit where Jamal could handle the ball while he spots up.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:09 pm
Until Larry Brown got fired, Augustin was in pretty much every Bobcats-related trade rumor. The Hawks could have probably had him pretty easily in the offseason, or even better, last year when Raymond Felton was still there.
I’m starting to get more and more convinced that Mookie Blaylock cursed the Hawks when he left that they would never have another good point guard ever again. In a league where even a lottery team like the Bobcats can have two quality point guards, it stretches the boundaries of believability that the Hawks can have a roster with no point guards who are even above average.
cp
January 22nd, 2011
8:15 pm
Mo is just terrible. He is good for about 3 bad plays a night it seems. And yes it would be nice to have a pg who can break down defenses with the dribble. Nobody seems to have any energy for the Hawks smh.
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
8:15 pm
Najeh,
That’s too kind a spin.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
not going to switch huh.. ?
why was Bibby rotating off his man? it wasnt his rotation..
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
that was nice from Joe. smooooooooth
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:19 pm
It’s almost like Mo decided that his performance in the Miami game in overtime was enough to allow him to play like sh-t for the rest of the season.
cp
January 22nd, 2011
8:20 pm
How in the world does Mo get so many minutes smh
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:20 pm
Hawks have executed some of the worst fastbreaks I ever seen…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:22 pm
About time Mo makes a positive play for the Hawks…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:24 pm
More terrible defensive rotation by the Hawks, and as usual it all starts with covering for Bibby on the perimeter.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
Zaza has actually been really good to start this half, surprisingly enough. Two good steals and a nice post up.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
ZaZa is really hustling tonight..
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:25 pm
Not So Fast!
Melvin, that’s because we don’t have a fast break PG. And, Teague turns it over every time down. ZaZa playing great tonight.
Great hands on defense from ZaZa. Offensive rebound ZaZa and make those put-backs.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:26 pm
I still would prefer Kwame over Ethan…
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:26 pm
Zaza > Kwame
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
Lol. The Charlotte announcers just said that the Hawks are two points away from last nights total.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
i’ve sometimes found ryan cameron a little annoying in his p.a. announcements, but he’s understated compared to the guy they got here. it’s like listening to a soccer dad trying to be a professional wrestling announcer.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
Dumb foul by Smoove.
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
8:29 pm
There’s no doghouse like a Larry Brown doghouse! Woody learned from the best, Knight and Brown
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Hawks going zone for the second time in this game.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Nice plays by Bibby…
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:30 pm
Those hand-slap Technicals are stupid. The players should be able to slap their hands in disgust without being T-ed
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
8:33 pm
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
8:28 pm
“it’s like listening to a soccer dad trying to be a professional wrestling announcer.”
Tony Schovani’s doing the PA?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:33 pm
Hawks are playing zone like a team that isn’t used to playing much zone. Bobcats are getting open looks on the regular against the zone look, but thankfully, they suck too bad to convert most of them.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
8:34 pm
Please continue to talk junk about Bibby. All he’s doing is making timely shots and is our 2nd best rebounder tonight.
He’s gonna mess around and have 18 pts – 7 rebs – 7 asst
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:34 pm
Seeing as how Teague has basically become the 11th or 12th man in the Hawks’ rotation, they might as well go ahead and do the Jason Thompson trade.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:37 pm
“Please continue to talk junk about Bibby. All he’s doing is making timely shots and is our 2nd best rebounder tonight.”
He’s also the single biggest reason the Bobcats have shot 47%, Augustin has 18 points, and the Hawks have been forced to go zone. The Bobcats’ best offensive strategy in this game has been to screen Bibby and force the Hawks to rotate. If you give up a point for every point you account for, you are not accomplishing much.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
OMG, Mo made the dunk and got foul.. I cant believe it…
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
Strong Bench Play!
What’s up with Maurice missing all them dunks lately?
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:39 pm
My bad I thought he made the dunk…I should have known…
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:41 pm
Fantastic blogging crew tonight! No crazy trolles. Great game from the bench tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:43 pm
Props to Joe Johnson for this game. Regardless of how it turns out, for him to gut out his 2nd quarter knee injury and still manage to put up 26 points is impressive. Say what you want about his contract, but you can’t deny the man’s toughness.
Ken Sugiura
January 22nd, 2011
8:44 pm
interesting combinations on the floor. seemed to work in third.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:44 pm
Plug ‘N Play!
Looks like we are plugging players into a system tonight and it doesn’t matter who is playing. Makes last night look like an abberation.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
8:44 pm
Hey Ken,
I don’t know how much u watch BET,lol,but if im not mistaken the P.A. guy is a comedian named “Tone” i think..But he is a regular on the “Monique Show” as a character called,”Bootleg Mike” who sales bootleg movies and cd’s way before they come out.
Like,Lethal Weapon 5,And the Green Hornet Part 2..
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:44 pm
Josh reaching on Wallace post up begging for a 5th. use your head Josh.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:45 pm
And props to Smoove for playing one of his better defensive games of the season.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:46 pm
ZaZa playing like he The Boss!
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:46 pm
Zaza single-handedly erased the Hawks 9 point lead to start the game, but he is having a solid second half.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:47 pm
When the Hawks are getting points from Iso-Mo, you know things are going good.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:49 pm
Josh had Wallace posted.. then sealed.. last 2 possessions, Mo bailed us out w/ a contested made jumper.. last possession turnover.
entry to the post please. if he’s asking for it on the blocks give it to him. the ball always seems to find him when he’s on the perimeter.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:50 pm
Diaw did not skip a meal over the summer..
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:51 pm
Do they keep stats on the number of air balls per game. I’ve never seen a professional, college, or high school game with so many air balls
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
great d from the man..
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
Terrible shot by Jamal. Nice D by Josh…
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
nice..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
Diaw always looks like he’s wearing a training bra.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:53 pm
Its a shame the Hawks just wasted Josh’s defensive play by throwing the ball away on the offensive end.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Whatever LD said at halftime, it seems to have worked.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
nice cross from Josh..
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Nice play by Josh… with his left hand of course.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Najeh,
“Why soooo serious?” I like the Dark Knight.
Melvin,
Whatever weight Twin lost, Diaw found it..
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Diaw has gained a lot of weight. His butt looks like it tops Marvin’s.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
8:57 pm
With this being an 14 point game, at what point does Teague get some PT?
Its like LD has already decided that just isnt good enough to play this season..
Ra'mon
January 22nd, 2011
8:57 pm
Funny, is this not the very lineup I said the Hawks needed to go with last night? I’m sure I said they should go with that lineup at halftime last night. lol
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:58 pm
They really should count a charge taken as a steal. If committing a charge counts as a turnover, it should work the other way around. As important of a play as that is, it should be reflected in the stat sheet somehow.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
I see yall saw that weight gain too! LOL!
Josh strokes a jumper and this game is in the bag!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:01 pm
“With this being an 14 point game, at what point does Teague get some PT?”
Nine Hawks have gotten minutes in this game, and two more Hawks are injured. I think it’s safe to say that Teague is at best 12th in the pecking order as far as LD is concerned, and considering that he used JC2 more in the last two games than Teague, it may very well be that Teague has fallen to 13th.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
Forgot about Powell’s suspension too. Teague may be the 14th man at this point.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
road wins coming like its nothing..
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
damn Jeff..
Paradise Lost
January 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
Ken: the Charlotte commentators are about as spectacular as the PA guy. “And the sun is setting on the Bobcats….” “The Hawks have this one in the barn.”
Poor Teague. They just showed a close-up of him last time out and he looked like a sad puppy!
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Jordan under his breath asking Jamal for the rock so he could do that.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Nice road win…
Ra'mon
January 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Wow, Teague! That’s crazy, lol. Why not trade him for Thompson if he’s going to be this far down on the list. Or trade him for Udrih.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Wow!! JC2 gets da final 60plus seconds and Teague again is a DNP..
This cat is out of here
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Josh took his Jersey off – like Dwight Howard! LOL!
He pulled a Dennis Rodman and threw it into the stands?
Did he give it to Section 303 sitting behind the bench?
Section said he went to Charlotte to Boo Joe Johnson, I wonder how much cheering he did?
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Hey Section 303! Please drive home safely, you and the wife! We need you back at Phillips to keep Joe on his toes! Love You Man! (Mmmmmwah!)
dap01
January 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Larry Drew is horrible. A huge lead with a couple of minutes to go and Teague gets nothing.
The Hawks are a poorly managed team. Larry will deserve to get fired in 1 year and the Hawks will deserve to perserve their cherrished core. Perhaps Bibby’s great game will help us win a game in the playoffs.
The Hawks are going NOWHERE! They are going down a road that will take them nowhere in the playoffs.
You will deserve what you get Larry (Woody) Drew!
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Regardless of the quality of the opposition, road wins are like GOLD.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Before everyone leaves i got a quick question.
If Teague is traded,will he:
A.be the point guard we all thought he would become and make the hawks regret the trade..
B.become a serviceable backup..
C.be out of the league in 2 years
jason
January 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
what did josh powell do to get suspended?
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
Bibby playd 37 minutes, which he really didnt have to.
The funny thing is, whenever LD decides to put Teague in the game in the future, he will expect to play well immediately. And if he doesn’t, it’s back to the milk carton…missing.
sautee,
If im not mistaken, Hawks are 11-3 on the second night of a back to back. I dont know why their record is that good…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
What Teague becomes if he leaves here depends on where he goes and what that team gives up to get him. In pro sports, the amount of time and energy a team puts in to develop a player will usually depend on what they have invested in that player. The Hawks have invested a first round pick in Teague, so presumably they should be putting in that type of time to develop him (although they haven’t). If another team picks up Teague, they will likely pick him up in a relatively minor trade and will view him as a more disposable asset, so the chances that Teague gets the opportunity to prove himself somewhere else are slim.
The same thing happened with Acie Law when he got traded; none of the teams he landed on after leaving the Hawks had much invested in him, and as a result none of them had much incentive to give him the opportunity to develop and prove himself.
For a player like him, the ideal situation is to go to a team with weak depth and/or injuries at his position, so that the team has no choice but to give him playing time.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
Teague must be falling asleep in team meetings, or arriving late for practices. Something is going on! Maybe he is deaf and mute around the team. Maybe, his is slooow between the ears. Maybe his pulse rate is a notch above a dead man?
______________________
IDK what the problem is yall? But, something is going on with Jeff!
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Any inside info from what you see at practice – Ken or MC?
Oldtimer
January 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
Hawks win, Hawks win, Great win.
JJ and Zaza both are great.
Teague i am sorry man, where are you???
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
9:23 pm
Hate to say it but…
Jeff Teague = Randolph Childress
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:25 pm
If the Hawks had defend homecourt like they did last year, they probably would be 1st or 2nd in the standings…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:29 pm
Unfortunately for Teague, Bibby has been healthy the last two seasons. I would like to see him forced into the rotation to start or play starter mins during a meaningful game…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:29 pm
Best case scenario for Teague is that he goes to a team that gives him playing time and becomes something along the lines of Tony Parker. Most likely scenario right now, if things keep going the way they are now, is that he’s the next Marcus Banks.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
interested in seeing if Washington finds away to lose to Bos.
currently up 3 w/ about .40 to plaly
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
Wizards are about to beat the Celtics… Nice…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Wizards won…
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
C’s just lost to DC
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Hats off to Ken, this was fun!
Geemack
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Boston is losing in Washinton. This why you don’t blow games at home the way the Hawks did last night. That was the Hawks oppurtunity to gain ground in the East.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
Unfortunately for the Hawks, Orlando and Chicago are on their way to blowout wins and Miami already blew out the Raptors. Right now it’s Orlando that matters more to the Hawks than Boston, since they can’t get a top 4 seed without leapfrogging Orlando.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
To help us feel better about last night…
New Orleans is running San Antonio out of the building. They are up by almost 20.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:37 pm
Teague must not be running the plays right in Drew’s motion offense.
Drew was very high on Jeff and hired a personal coach in Van Exel, so, certainly
there has tp be something else going on that we are not privy to.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
I just don’t get the “semi-obsession” with Teague. If the dude could ball, he’d be playing. He has a better offensive option with Jamal at PG ( although I don’t like Jamal playing the point ). And he has better defensive options with Mo and Damien, who can adequately guard 2s and 3s.
People want him to trim Bibby’s minutes , but that ain’t happening as long as Bibby is a consistent contributor to the Hawks offensive attack.
Unless Jamal gets hurt, Teague will see limited minutes . . if any.
“If you can ball, you can ball”
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
hbcuclassics
January 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
2011 HBCU Draft Board – WRs (1-5)
1. Raymond Webber 6′2, 218 WR Ark-PB
AP/FCS All-American, Walter Payton Award Finalist
led NCAA 101 rec. 1,429yds 10TDs 129.9ypg.
only receiver w/ more receptions is Jerry Rice.
Coach: Monte Coleman (don’t be stupid on this one)
2. Ricardo Lockette, 6′3, 199 WR/KR FVSU
2009 DII 200 Meter Champion
23 rec./232 yds. 4.39-4.41/40yd. dash
Mentor: Terrence Mathis – track guy
3. Ronnie Childs 6′2 195 WR Albany State
BASN All-American, All-SIAC, SIAC Champ 11-1
45 rec./ 22ypc./12TDs – (all he does is catch TDs)
4. Jeremy Franklin 6′3, 199 WR/KR JC Smith
3x All-CIAA, JC Smith All-time leading receiver
55 rec/823 yds/5 TDs – fierce, beats up DBs.
5. Larrone Moore 6′0, 185 WR/KR Delaware St.
25 rec. 450yds 4TDs, 18.8ypc – another track guy
2x Maryland 4A 100m champ, 55m Maryland State champ
4.29-4.36/ 40yd dash (has Deion-like speed)
http://www.hbcuclassics.com
……………….
lets get it FORT VALLEY STATE
kwooden1
January 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
Great game, by Joe, bad game by Capt. Jack and Wallace. Liked LD mixing in zone and going small with Wilkins playing a lot of minutes. I knew the guys were embarrassed last night and would come with some energy, but I didn’t think they would win by double-digits.
In terms of Teague, I will defend LD in this respect. Teague just isn’t playing good enough defense to warrant significant minutes over Bibby and Jamal. Teague wasn’t overwhelmingly great in the minutes he got earlier in the year, so LD is choosing to go with guys that produce. Jamal and clearly aren’t great defenders and are even worse together on the court, but Teague hasn’t proven to be significantly better on defense and he’s offensive isn’t nearly as good as those guys. I like what Jeff brings to the table and I think he will be an asset for this team this year. Hopefully he will get some minutes and find his groove over the next few games.
GO HAWKS
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 22nd, 2011
9:43 pm
yeah…wow…N.O. is rolling (atleast for the moment..1:46 left in the 3rd up 23)
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
9:45 pm
@ drmaryb
Exactly. He’s obviously done something to have Drew not trust him at all.
Drew has been a player/coach for over 30 years, yet, some still give Teague the benefit of the dobut, and may like the coach has something against him.
If Drew felt that Teague could consistently help this team, he’d be playing.
If people keep it real, we all knew that something was up with Teague, going all the way back to the summer league game in which he melted down.
He was never a true PG. So if this is the beginning of the end for him, so be it.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
OB,
Hawks need a PG that will take pressure/reasonability off our SGs. They’re expecting Joe, Jamal and Mo to cover for Bibby flaws every night. On defense, Joe/Mo has to guard the other teams PGs b/c of Bibby lack of defense. Offensively, Joe/Jamal usually handles the ball while Bibby spot up on the perimeter for open shots. To me, Bibby deficiency is causing the Hawks too many adjustments for a guy who’s a starter and plays 35+ mins nightly.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:54 pm
“I just don’t get the “semi-obsession” with Teague.”
The “semi-obsession” with Teague is because everybody and their momma knows that a) the Hawks are severely limited by Bibby’s inability to create shots for his teammates or play D, and b) you can’t waste one draft pick after another in the NBA and expect to maintain long term success. No matter how good he is as a 3-point shooter, Bibby is a below average starting point guard right now and is only going to get worse. The Hawks’ future success depends on their ability to find someone who can start at point guard and play better than Bibby.
As far as Teague is concerned, there are two options — either he sucks and Rick Sund wasted a draft pick on him, or he is actually good and LD is messing up the Hawks’ future by not developing him. One way or another, someone in Hawks management has screwed up when it comes to Teague, and someone has to rectify the situation. Either LD needs to play Teague more and develop him into a reliable starter, or Sund needs to make a trade to get a point guard on this team who can become that reliable starter.
Maybe the Hawks write off Teague and make the Nash trade to stabilize the point guard situation. Maybe the Hawks give Teague more playing time and he develops into a solid player. Sh-t, maybe the Hawks give JC2 time at the point and he develops into a solid point guard. It doesn’t really matter to me what it takes, but if this team really wants to contend, Bibby is neither a short-term solution nor a long-term solution as a starting point guard.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:55 pm
On an unrelated note, Monty Williams has to be the coach of the year right now, doesn’t he? No freaking way the Hornets should be even close to this good based on the talent they have on their roster.
SteveW
January 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
All I know is is that LD is supposed to be the guy developing PG’s on this team since ‘04, and he’s had Acie at #11 (who’s finally doing pretty good in the rotation at GSW), Teague at #19. Salim @ #31. and Royal Ivey in the 2nd round, and has done nothing with them. Now it could be the players, or it could be a mental issue with LD, IDK.
And at Washington before that, the only guy he developed was Ty Lue. I think it’s on LD, but that’s my opinion. We need to get Teague outta here and get someone who can help us if LD is not going to develop the kid.
Start Teague the next 10 games, like you did ZaZa tonite, and you might like the results. We know Teague is not going to get a challenge in practice on Bibby and Jamal guarding him. Throw him to the NBA wolve’s, and I think he’ll grow up.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
There you go San Antonio. Show everybody how “good teams” never get beat down. Down 25 now. They have a decent bench, so they may not lose by that much.
I’d love to see the Hornets beat them by 35 or so, just to see the national media reaction to it.
Tim Duncan 2-11 . . . Manu has a +/- of ( -29 )
ISH HAPPENS.
SteveW
January 22nd, 2011
9:58 pm
Najeh – Cosign on that
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
10:00 pm
northcyde,
my 9:54 post was for you and not OB….
OB,
sorry about that.
Worldwide Clyde
January 22nd, 2011
10:33 pm
Drew is turning into Woody.
I remember when he was first hired he said the Hawks needed a change at the point guard position. Now he’s changed his mind and his rotation is just like Woody’s. We all know Woody’s way didn’t work so why is Drew doing the same things.
Playing your starters heavy minutes during the regular season equals fatigue during the playoffs. That’s why you have to develop your bench if you like it or not.
I think Drew needs to look at the big picture when it comes to Teague.
FIRE SUND
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
10:35 pm
I wonder what the Hawks record in those Red uniforms this season. They may be undefeated in them…
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
10:37 pm
Teague was the 7th PG picked in the draft. With a lottery pick talent like Dejuan Blair sitting right in our face he should’ve been the pick.
So yeah, it simply could’ve been a bad pick. He was one of the PGs in that draft that was more of a 2 guard than anything.
NBAdraft.net rated his defense as a 6 . . . which is a below average rating for them. That dude had “red flags” all over the place . . from his low trajectory on his shot . . to his fairly low assist total ( 3.5 a game ) . . from his on the ball defense.
But he was ultra quick, athletic, and could supposedly score . . so we just “had” to take him as a PG.
So what have we’ve gotten in 2 years?
- lack of assertiveness and leadership
- flashes of his athletic ability, especially in the open court
- above average number of turnovers
- sporadic jumpshootng
- ability to make nice passes on occasion
- poor defensive awareness in the halfcourt
- good help defense
It’s a mixed bag from him, with some of his negatives being GLARING negatives.
My main problem with him, is I don’t think he’s a leader. Most of your successful NBA PGs do not have to be taught how to lead, even if they have faults in their actual on court game.
Rondo was a leader, who needed his talent developed. So was Deron Williams. You show me a young PG that fails in the NBA, and I’ll show you a guy that is not a leader.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
10:43 pm
Great win for the Hawks.
“People want him to trim Bibby’s minutes , but that ain’t happening as long as Bibby is a consistent contributor to the Hawks offensive attack.”northcyde .
There are games where Bibby is 2-9 from the field, with his usual bad defense, and he still plays 35 minutes. Is it too much to ask for games in which Bibby is struggling, to give Teague a chance?
Its like LD would rather stay with a Bibby who is sucking (in that particular game) rather than give Teague a chance.
I’m with Najeh. This offseason, Hawks and Rick need to address the backup PG situation, especially if they let Jamal walk.
Worldwide Clyde
January 22nd, 2011
10:44 pm
Northcyde If we drafted Dejuan Blair Woody would have buried him on the bench.
Woody threw Marvin out there in the starting lineup and he wasn’t ready. Hell he still ain’t ready and he’s a veteran.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
10:55 pm
Melvin . . I agree with you, and Najeh for that matter.
But the fact is that if Teague can’t handle the job, or if Drew has seen enough to not trust him, we have no choice but to go with Bibby . . who is NOT a bad option to go with, because he knows how to play the game.
JJ and Josh have been covering for PGs ever since the mid 2000s with Tyronn Lue. So it’s not like this is a new thing for them. That’s why the Hawks are able to function with Bibby in the lineup.
No one is going to trade us the type of PG we want/need, unless we give up something significant ( Jamal ) in return. And I don’t know if there is a free agent PG who is out of work, that is better than Bibby.
So what do people expect Drew to do? Just give Teague 15 minutes a game, let him make mistakes, and possibly lose games in the process?
Developing teams do that. Playoff caliber teams don’t do that.
Playing time alone isn’t going to help Teague. He has to WANT to lead. If he’s incapable of leading, then he won’t help us.
If Drew is coaching like Woody, he needs to keep on doing it. The Hawks have won 21 of their last 31 games.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
10:59 pm
BS Clyde
Woody played Solomon Jones ahead of Shelden Williams, when Shelden wasn’t getting it done. LOL . . Woody gave minutes to Royal Ivey and Mario West.
If Dejuan proved that he could be a monster on the boards, that dude would’ve played, seeing how Woody valued defense and rebounding.
You guys just want to believe that the coach is holding some of these players back, instead of the player holding themselves back.
Worldwide Clyde
January 23rd, 2011
12:28 am
Northcyde if Bibby and Jamal gets injured Teague would not be ready to play because of lack of playing time. As a coach you have to get your reserves ready just in case.
Worldwide Clyde
January 23rd, 2011
12:41 am
Northcyde Woody’s coaching style got us blown out of every game in the 2nd round because our starters were too worn out from playing too many minutes in the regular season.
no justice
January 23rd, 2011
9:15 am
Teague must be falling asleep in team meetings, or arriving late for practices. Something is going on! Maybe he is deaf and mute around the team. Maybe, his is slooow between the ears. Maybe his pulse rate is a notch above a dead man?’
maybe because he sucks and dont deserve more plaything.
rusty
January 23rd, 2011
10:23 am
Bench ld, he’s been in a slump all year