Game thread, Hawks-Bobcats
Charlotte – Greetings, all. MC is taking the day off. Watching, literally, one of the worst performances of NBA basketball in league history can take its toll. (Just kidding. It was planned all along to give him a break.)
Some stunning numbers from the number crunchers at Elias Sports Bureau, via ESPN:
It was the first time in NBA history that a team that was at least 10 games over .500 going into the game lost at home by 40 or more points.
It was the team’s second-lowest point total in club history in the shot-clock era, going back to a 1955 loss to Boston when they were the Milwaukee Hawks. I think that was Jason Collins‘ rookie year.
It was the fewest points by a home team since Miami scored 56 in a loss to Utah Dec. 2001.
The Hawks’ 29.1 field-goal percentage was the lowest by an NBA team this season and the team’s lowest in any game since moving to Atlanta.
Yowzers.
Let’s see what basketball-reference.com can tell us about the games following those majestic collapses. After the Milwaukee Hawks lost to Boston in 1955, they lost the next game (a back-to-back) to Philadelphia 101-84.
After the Heat lost 95-56 to Utah, they lost the next game 86-81 to Cleveland in overtime. The Cavs shot 37.5 percent and the Heat shot 35.2 percent. Goodness gracious. I believe that was the year the NBA experimented playing games with yoga balls.
After the Hawks lost 118-74 to Phoenix in March 2000 – the last time the Hawks lost by that many points at home – they followed it up going on the road and losing to Houston 115-93 on their way to a nine-game losing streak. Your starting five against Phoenix –Dikembe Mutombo, Alan Henderson, Jason Terry, Roshown McLeod, Jim Jackson.
Sorry I don’t have more information to offer you right now. I’m in my hotel room right now and will be on the way to the arena in a little bit.
About the Bobcats – they’ve won their last two and six of their last nine. Guard D.J. Augustin went for 31 in their 100-97 win over Philly Thursday. Hawks tormentor Gerald Wallace – he had 11, 25, 20 and 28 last year – only had six against the Sixers, so he might be ready to pop a little bit. He missed the Hawks’ first game with Charlotte this season.
This is totally not relevant to the discussion, but Wallace killed it last year against the West. He had 45 in two games against Denver, 48 against Golden State, 49 against the Clippers, 50 against Phoenix, 66 against Sacramento and 57 against Utah. But, anyway, his 21.0 against the Hawks was tied for second highest of any team in the East.
Joe Johnson’s 16.7 ppg against Charlotte last year was tied for third-lowest of any team in the league. (Orlando, then Philadelphia and tie with Toronto)
Josh Smith did fairly well last year against Charlotte – 52.8 field-goal percentage, 15.8 ppg and 7.8 rpg. Interestingly (well, you can decide that), Smith is having his best scoring and rebounding month thus far in January at 16.9 and 9.8, but his worst shooting month, 40.6 percent.
O.K., enough nerding out. I’ll be back in a little while.
Ken Sugiura, Hawks writer
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bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:49 pm
Josh had Wallace posted.. then sealed.. last 2 possessions, Mo bailed us out w/ a contested made jumper.. last possession turnover.
entry to the post please. if he’s asking for it on the blocks give it to him. the ball always seems to find him when he’s on the perimeter.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:50 pm
Diaw did not skip a meal over the summer..
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:51 pm
Do they keep stats on the number of air balls per game. I’ve never seen a professional, college, or high school game with so many air balls
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
great d from the man..
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
Terrible shot by Jamal. Nice D by Josh…
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
nice..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:52 pm
Diaw always looks like he’s wearing a training bra.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:53 pm
Its a shame the Hawks just wasted Josh’s defensive play by throwing the ball away on the offensive end.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Whatever LD said at halftime, it seems to have worked.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
nice cross from Josh..
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Nice play by Josh… with his left hand of course.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Najeh,
“Why soooo serious?” I like the Dark Knight.
Melvin,
Whatever weight Twin lost, Diaw found it..
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:55 pm
Diaw has gained a lot of weight. His butt looks like it tops Marvin’s.
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
8:57 pm
With this being an 14 point game, at what point does Teague get some PT?
Its like LD has already decided that just isnt good enough to play this season..
Ra'mon
January 22nd, 2011
8:57 pm
Funny, is this not the very lineup I said the Hawks needed to go with last night? I’m sure I said they should go with that lineup at halftime last night. lol
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
8:58 pm
They really should count a charge taken as a steal. If committing a charge counts as a turnover, it should work the other way around. As important of a play as that is, it should be reflected in the stat sheet somehow.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
8:59 pm
I see yall saw that weight gain too! LOL!
Josh strokes a jumper and this game is in the bag!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:01 pm
“With this being an 14 point game, at what point does Teague get some PT?”
Nine Hawks have gotten minutes in this game, and two more Hawks are injured. I think it’s safe to say that Teague is at best 12th in the pecking order as far as LD is concerned, and considering that he used JC2 more in the last two games than Teague, it may very well be that Teague has fallen to 13th.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:02 pm
Forgot about Powell’s suspension too. Teague may be the 14th man at this point.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:06 pm
road wins coming like its nothing..
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:07 pm
damn Jeff..
Paradise Lost
January 22nd, 2011
9:08 pm
Ken: the Charlotte commentators are about as spectacular as the PA guy. “And the sun is setting on the Bobcats….” “The Hawks have this one in the barn.”
Poor Teague. They just showed a close-up of him last time out and he looked like a sad puppy!
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Jordan under his breath asking Jamal for the rock so he could do that.
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:09 pm
Nice road win…
Ra'mon
January 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Wow, Teague! That’s crazy, lol. Why not trade him for Thompson if he’s going to be this far down on the list. Or trade him for Udrih.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
9:10 pm
Wow!! JC2 gets da final 60plus seconds and Teague again is a DNP..
This cat is out of here
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Josh took his Jersey off – like Dwight Howard! LOL!
He pulled a Dennis Rodman and threw it into the stands?
Did he give it to Section 303 sitting behind the bench?
Section said he went to Charlotte to Boo Joe Johnson, I wonder how much cheering he did?
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Hey Section 303! Please drive home safely, you and the wife! We need you back at Phillips to keep Joe on his toes! Love You Man! (Mmmmmwah!)
dap01
January 22nd, 2011
9:12 pm
Larry Drew is horrible. A huge lead with a couple of minutes to go and Teague gets nothing.
The Hawks are a poorly managed team. Larry will deserve to get fired in 1 year and the Hawks will deserve to perserve their cherrished core. Perhaps Bibby’s great game will help us win a game in the playoffs.
The Hawks are going NOWHERE! They are going down a road that will take them nowhere in the playoffs.
You will deserve what you get Larry (Woody) Drew!
Sautee
January 22nd, 2011
9:13 pm
Regardless of the quality of the opposition, road wins are like GOLD.
NUNNA!!
January 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
Before everyone leaves i got a quick question.
If Teague is traded,will he:
A.be the point guard we all thought he would become and make the hawks regret the trade..
B.become a serviceable backup..
C.be out of the league in 2 years
jason
January 22nd, 2011
9:15 pm
what did josh powell do to get suspended?
O'Brien
January 22nd, 2011
9:18 pm
Bibby playd 37 minutes, which he really didnt have to.
The funny thing is, whenever LD decides to put Teague in the game in the future, he will expect to play well immediately. And if he doesn’t, it’s back to the milk carton…missing.
sautee,
If im not mistaken, Hawks are 11-3 on the second night of a back to back. I dont know why their record is that good…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:20 pm
What Teague becomes if he leaves here depends on where he goes and what that team gives up to get him. In pro sports, the amount of time and energy a team puts in to develop a player will usually depend on what they have invested in that player. The Hawks have invested a first round pick in Teague, so presumably they should be putting in that type of time to develop him (although they haven’t). If another team picks up Teague, they will likely pick him up in a relatively minor trade and will view him as a more disposable asset, so the chances that Teague gets the opportunity to prove himself somewhere else are slim.
The same thing happened with Acie Law when he got traded; none of the teams he landed on after leaving the Hawks had much invested in him, and as a result none of them had much incentive to give him the opportunity to develop and prove himself.
For a player like him, the ideal situation is to go to a team with weak depth and/or injuries at his position, so that the team has no choice but to give him playing time.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
Teague must be falling asleep in team meetings, or arriving late for practices. Something is going on! Maybe he is deaf and mute around the team. Maybe, his is slooow between the ears. Maybe his pulse rate is a notch above a dead man?
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IDK what the problem is yall? But, something is going on with Jeff!
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Any inside info from what you see at practice – Ken or MC?
Oldtimer
January 22nd, 2011
9:21 pm
Hawks win, Hawks win, Great win.
JJ and Zaza both are great.
Teague i am sorry man, where are you???
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
9:23 pm
Hate to say it but…
Jeff Teague = Randolph Childress
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:25 pm
If the Hawks had defend homecourt like they did last year, they probably would be 1st or 2nd in the standings…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:29 pm
Unfortunately for Teague, Bibby has been healthy the last two seasons. I would like to see him forced into the rotation to start or play starter mins during a meaningful game…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:29 pm
Best case scenario for Teague is that he goes to a team that gives him playing time and becomes something along the lines of Tony Parker. Most likely scenario right now, if things keep going the way they are now, is that he’s the next Marcus Banks.
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
interested in seeing if Washington finds away to lose to Bos.
currently up 3 w/ about .40 to plaly
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:31 pm
Wizards are about to beat the Celtics… Nice…
Melvin
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Wizards won…
bigdave
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
C’s just lost to DC
JSS
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Hats off to Ken, this was fun!
Geemack
January 22nd, 2011
9:33 pm
Boston is losing in Washinton. This why you don’t blow games at home the way the Hawks did last night. That was the Hawks oppurtunity to gain ground in the East.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
Unfortunately for the Hawks, Orlando and Chicago are on their way to blowout wins and Miami already blew out the Raptors. Right now it’s Orlando that matters more to the Hawks than Boston, since they can’t get a top 4 seed without leapfrogging Orlando.
Rev in Tampa
January 22nd, 2011
9:34 pm
To help us feel better about last night…
New Orleans is running San Antonio out of the building. They are up by almost 20.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 22nd, 2011
9:37 pm
Teague must not be running the plays right in Drew’s motion offense.
Drew was very high on Jeff and hired a personal coach in Van Exel, so, certainly
there has tp be something else going on that we are not privy to.
northcyde
January 22nd, 2011
9:39 pm
I just don’t get the “semi-obsession” with Teague. If the dude could ball, he’d be playing. He has a better offensive option with Jamal at PG ( although I don’t like Jamal playing the point ). And he has better defensive options with Mo and Damien, who can adequately guard 2s and 3s.
People want him to trim Bibby’s minutes , but that ain’t happening as long as Bibby is a consistent contributor to the Hawks offensive attack.
Unless Jamal gets hurt, Teague will see limited minutes . . if any.
“If you can ball, you can ball”
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 22nd, 2011
9:40 pm
hbcuclassics
January 22nd, 2011
7:58 pm
2011 HBCU Draft Board – WRs (1-5)
1. Raymond Webber 6′2, 218 WR Ark-PB
AP/FCS All-American, Walter Payton Award Finalist
led NCAA 101 rec. 1,429yds 10TDs 129.9ypg.
only receiver w/ more receptions is Jerry Rice.
Coach: Monte Coleman (don’t be stupid on this one)
2. Ricardo Lockette, 6′3, 199 WR/KR FVSU
2009 DII 200 Meter Champion
23 rec./232 yds. 4.39-4.41/40yd. dash
Mentor: Terrence Mathis – track guy
3. Ronnie Childs 6′2 195 WR Albany State
BASN All-American, All-SIAC, SIAC Champ 11-1
45 rec./ 22ypc./12TDs – (all he does is catch TDs)
4. Jeremy Franklin 6′3, 199 WR/KR JC Smith
3x All-CIAA, JC Smith All-time leading receiver
55 rec/823 yds/5 TDs – fierce, beats up DBs.
5. Larrone Moore 6′0, 185 WR/KR Delaware St.
25 rec. 450yds 4TDs, 18.8ypc – another track guy
2x Maryland 4A 100m champ, 55m Maryland State champ
4.29-4.36/ 40yd dash (has Deion-like speed)
http://www.hbcuclassics.com
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lets get it FORT VALLEY STATE