Game thread, Hawks-Bobcats

Charlotte – Greetings, all. MC is taking the day off. Watching, literally, one of the worst performances of NBA basketball in league history can take its toll. (Just kidding. It was planned all along to give him a break.)

Some stunning numbers from the number crunchers at Elias Sports Bureau, via ESPN:

It was the first time in NBA history that a team that was at least 10 games over .500 going into the game lost at home by 40 or more points.

It was the team’s second-lowest point total in club history in the shot-clock era, going back to a 1955 loss to Boston when they were the Milwaukee Hawks. I think that was Jason Collins‘ rookie year.

It was the fewest points by a home team since Miami scored 56 in a loss to Utah Dec. 2001.

The Hawks’ 29.1 field-goal percentage was the lowest by an NBA team this season and the team’s lowest in any game since moving to Atlanta.

Yowzers.

Let’s see what basketball-reference.com can tell us about the games following those majestic collapses. After the Milwaukee Hawks lost to Boston in 1955, they lost the next game (a back-to-back) to Philadelphia 101-84.

After the Heat lost 95-56 to Utah, they lost the next game 86-81 to Cleveland in overtime. The Cavs shot 37.5 percent and the Heat shot 35.2 percent. Goodness gracious. I believe that was the year the NBA experimented playing games with yoga balls.

After the Hawks lost 118-74 to Phoenix in March 2000 – the last time the Hawks lost by that many points at home – they followed it up going on the road and losing to Houston 115-93 on their way to a nine-game losing streak. Your starting five against Phoenix –Dikembe Mutombo, Alan Henderson, Jason Terry, Roshown McLeod, Jim Jackson.

Sorry I don’t have more information to offer you right now. I’m in my hotel room right now and will be on the way to the arena in a little bit.

About the Bobcats – they’ve won their last two and six of their last nine. Guard D.J. Augustin went for 31 in their 100-97 win over Philly Thursday. Hawks tormentor Gerald Wallace – he had 11, 25, 20 and 28 last year – only had six against the Sixers, so he might be ready to pop a little bit. He missed the Hawks’ first game with Charlotte this season.

This is totally not relevant to the discussion, but Wallace killed it last year against the West. He had 45 in two games against Denver, 48 against Golden State, 49 against the Clippers, 50 against Phoenix, 66 against Sacramento and 57 against Utah. But, anyway, his 21.0 against the Hawks was tied for second highest of any team in the East.

Joe Johnson’s 16.7 ppg against Charlotte last year was tied for third-lowest of any team in the league. (Orlando, then Philadelphia and tie with Toronto)

Josh Smith did fairly well last year against Charlotte – 52.8 field-goal percentage, 15.8 ppg and 7.8 rpg. Interestingly (well, you can decide that), Smith is having his best scoring and rebounding month thus far in January at 16.9 and 9.8, but his worst shooting month, 40.6 percent.

O.K., enough nerding out. I’ll be back in a little while.

Ken Sugiura, Hawks writer

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DO A BIG TRADES

January 22nd, 2011
4:55 pm

IT’S OUR TOY BEAT THE B CATS YHE NETS AND GET KICKED IN PLAYOFFS
GO HAWKS

DO A BIG TRADES

January 22nd, 2011
4:56 pm

J from the A

January 22nd, 2011
5:09 pm

Is Jason Collins going to be suspended for this game?

SteveW

January 22nd, 2011
5:26 pm

Glad Acie’s found a home with GSW. Averaging 15 mpg and shooting 60% in his last 5. Good backup PG

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Paradise Lost

January 22nd, 2011
5:57 pm

J from the A: saw a Tweet an hour ago that said Twin arrived at the arena with the Hawks, so hopefully no suspension.

Worldwide Clyde

January 22nd, 2011
6:08 pm

Free Jordan Crawford

If Joe can’t get the job done put the rookie in the game.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
6:10 pm

Josh Powell is suspended for tonight’s game for conduct detrimental to the team.

This is the guy who was supposedly going to be such a valuable addition because he’s a great locker room guy and has all that championship experience.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:16 pm

Powell must have really stepped in it if Drew felt he had to suspend him while they are so short-handed down low.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm

Or, hopefully, Drew is calling everybody to account for the way they played last night. Hopefully he is not going to put up with any more crap. After the Boston loss, I believe, Drew suggested that the players were staying out to late partying.

Rufus1

January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm

Perspective

That was the same game we played against Miami, except for 2 things…..We won the game against Miami with Defense and the Heat didn’t have a CP3 kind of player to exploit our back court.

The case for Teague…

The case was made last night for a Teague kind of player playing 15-20min a night. His change of pace, speed and defense against players like CP3 is a needed asset. When Bibby isn’t hiting shots against a PG like CP3….What do we have…NOTHING.

I am not saying Teague should be the starter, but he should more consistant minutes.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:19 pm

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:21 pm

If Bibby misses his first two shots he should be yanked immediately

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
6:28 pm

a couple updates: Najeh is correct; Powell has been suspended for one game and will re-join the team at the next practice. Drew considers the matter over.
Starting lineup: Bibby, Evans, Johnson, Smith and….Zaza Pachulia in his first start of the year. Drew said starting Pachulia over Collins was a move to get the offense going.

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
6:29 pm

Also, as expected, Al Horford and Marvin Williams did not make the trip. Drew sounded like he expected Horford to play Wednesday against Milwaukee.

D-MAN

January 22nd, 2011
6:31 pm

Is Horford in the lineup tnite?

D-MAN

January 22nd, 2011
6:32 pm

nevermind…..

Paradise Lost

January 22nd, 2011
6:32 pm

Rev: I’m curious to know exactly how much power an NBA coach has to suspend a player for partying (or other similar conduct) in their off-hours? Or in terms of holding players accountable for how they play…do coaches suspend players or just bench them? JP played no better/worse than any other Hawk on the floor last night.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
6:41 pm

When using Zaza counts as a move to “get the offense going”, you know you have depth issues.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
6:42 pm

On the pregame show Jerome Jurenovich said that Powell got suspended for “the way he voiced his displeasure with last night’s loss” or some sh-t.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
6:45 pm

As thin as the Hawks are inside, the Bobcats are arguably even thinner with DeSagana Diop out for the season and Tyrus Thomas out for the next two months.

Oldtimer

January 22nd, 2011
6:48 pm

Things must have been really bad for Powell to be suspended with being short on big men and all.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:50 pm

“On the pregame show Jerome Jurenovich said that Powell got suspended for “the way he voiced his displeasure with last night’s loss”

Good for Powell. I hope he named names.

Paradise Lost, I was not saying Powell played any worse than anyone else last night or that he had been out partying. I was disappointed, however, in Powell’s shot selection in last night’s game. He seemed to be looking for his shot when he was closely guarded rather than looking for his teammates. It resulted in him taking some fadeaway jumpshots with people in his face.

O'Brien

January 22nd, 2011
6:52 pm

Najeh,

I have no issues with Powell voicing his displeasure over last night’s game. But there is a right way to do it. I guess we will never know.

Maybe his actions will wake up the other players.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
6:52 pm

I was really wanting ‘Nique to call out the players last night in “Barkley” fashion instead of just agreeing with Bob.

bigdave

January 22nd, 2011
6:53 pm

no.. no Stinger..

Kwame is a (GA) high school basketball product.. not Atlanta..

O'Brien

January 22nd, 2011
6:54 pm

From the previous blog;

“1) our star players just aren’t as good as people hype them up to be ( talking about JJ, Al, and especially Josh, whom people think is a top 3 PF in the league, by the way they hype him up )” northcyde.

I think these people also include Rick Sund and the ASG.

Oldtimer

January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm

But Rev, i think Nique is an employee of ASG, so he has to be concerned with what he says. I am not disagreeing with your intention; just think Barkley has a little more freedom because he is not associated with any team.

O'Brien

January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm

Rev,

‘Nique and Bob are big time homers. You will hardly ever hear them criticize the Hawks.

And remember, ‘Nique is the one who thought Marvin was a once every 10 years talent (or something like that).

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:00 pm

“I have no issues with Powell voicing his displeasure over last night’s game. But there is a right way to do it. I guess we will never know.”

Neither do I, but I would prefer that it came from someone who didn’t suck. On the floor, Powell is part of the problem more often than he is a part of the solution.

NUNNA!!

January 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm

January 22nd, 2011
6:56 pm
O’Brien said:
‘Nique and Bob are big time homers. You will hardly ever hear them criticize the Hawks.

Not like Steve Holdman,Holemen or whatever the radio play by play guy for the hawks name is..

Every foul against the hawks is a conspiracy to that guy..
I wish him well,but i hate listening to him call games on the radio when im out and driving home from work..
God forbid him to move to television,EWWWW!!

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
7:05 pm

as i understand it, i think it had a little more to do with playing time.

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
7:06 pm

hawks in red unis again.
frank thomas sang the national anthem. (not that one)

northcyde

January 22nd, 2011
7:06 pm

Good move by Drew to start Zaza. Collins should only start against low post scoring bigs that the other team looks to run some offense through. That way, his defensive talents can be used as an asset.

Against other types of centers, he’s just not going to give you enough rebounding and scoring to be an asset.

Playing Zaza is the right move. Let him scrap for loose offensive rebounds and see if he can get 8 – 10 points that way.

What will hurt us tonight, is if Josh gets in foul trouble. With no Marvin and no Powell, Etan will be forced to play the 4 . . . unless we move JJ to the 4.

That’s why I said that last night’s game isn’t indicitive of what the Hawks really are.

If the guards start out slow tonight, we could get blown out again.

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
7:09 pm

local writer says stephen jackson has gotten t’d up a bunch of times by tonight’s crew. something to watch for… (not that makes this crew unique)

northcyde

January 22nd, 2011
7:10 pm

LOL @ Najeh 7:00 . . exactly.

Dude ain’t been part of a regular rotation since he played with the Clippers. Who in the heck is he to be complaining about PT?

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:11 pm

An airball from Mo. Great start already.

northcyde

January 22nd, 2011
7:12 pm

Ken . . you gonna post your thoughts throughout the game? I hope you do, just to give us a perspective of how you see the game live.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
7:13 pm

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
7:13 pm

bibby has five points, which is five more than he scored last night.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm

Collins >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Zaza

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm

Wow, Zaza quickly reminded me why we need Al Horford

northcyde

January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm

Bibby tired of people talking crap about him. That a way to make an early impact.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:15 pm

Really, the rest of the Hawks should know better by now than to pass it to Zaza in a position where he might get blocked or stripped.

Rev in Tampa

January 22nd, 2011
7:16 pm

Zaza should not get credit for that last rebound since it was his clumsyness that caused him to turn it over.

northcyde

January 22nd, 2011
7:17 pm

LOL . . please play better defense.

Please?

Ken Sugiura

January 22nd, 2011
7:18 pm

drew apparently likes josh vs. diaw

JSS

January 22nd, 2011
7:19 pm

Whew, can they just turn off the shot clock and put us out of our misery with these injuries and malcontent moments?

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:19 pm

“Zaza should not get credit for that last rebound since it was his clumsyness that caused him to turn it over.”

If Zaza was held to that standard for his whole career he would lose about 75% of his career rebounds.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 22nd, 2011
7:21 pm

Smoove just showed on that last post up why he doesn’t drive the ball more. His right hand is about as useful as Jim Abbott’s right hand.

Smoove shooting jumpers > Smoove going to his right.