Atlanta Hawks: Practice report

The Hawks practiced today at Philips. I was there. I talked to them and wrote down the things they said. Here are some examples:

  • Al sat out because of the sprained right ankle. He said it’s possible he could play tomorrow against the Hornets. “It is still kind of up in the air,” he said. “I’m just going to get a lot of treatment and see how it feels tomorrow at shootaround. Kind of taking it day-by-day.”
  • Marvin participated in the (non-contact) practice. “That is the first time I’ve ran around with the team in a while,” he said. “It felt pretty good.”
  • Marvin plans to test the back again tomorrow. L.D. sounded as if the Hawks still want to give him more time. “With the back, it may still be a little weak,” Drew said. “I don’t think there is any pain or discomfort, but it’s something we want to take our time with. We want to make sure he is as close to 100 percent as possible. We will see how he is tomorrow.”
  • Hawks PR Guy Arthur Triche later tweeted that Al and Marvin would probably miss at least the next two games.
  • Bibby didn’t get an assist for his sweet, sweet pass to Smoove on the game-changing dunk at Miami. “Can you believe that?” Bibby said.
  • Triche said the Hawks inquired with the league about crediting Bibby for what clearly was an assist but were told errors of omission can’t be retroactively fixed. In other words, the powers-that-be will take away an assist that shouldn’t be, for example, but won’t credit an assist that should be. OK, then. . . .
  • L.D., Jamal and J.J. all said it’s still too early to pay the East standings much mind.

“Everybody is bunched up,” Jamal said. “That can change daily. You can drive yourself crazy.” He added that the real jockeying doesn’t start until after the All-Star game, when the serious teams lock in and the also-rans fade out.

Drew said he doesn’t even look at the standings: “Just tell me when our next game is and we get prepared for it.” But at some point the Hawks will have to start thinking about positioning.

“When do I look at it? I don’t know,” L.D. said. “This is my first time being in this position. After the All-Star break and after that long trip, I know we have a favorable home schedule in March. I am sure at some point I will start looking at it.”

Joe said the Hawks “just have to try to maintain and stay up there near the top.” As long as the Hawks finish in the top four and get homecourt advantage in the first round, the exact order may not matter so much.

“If we are trying to do anything, we have to deal with Miami and Boston and Chicago and Orlando,” J.J. said. “Those are the teams that are right there at the top. You are going to have to go through those guys one way or the other.”

Michael Cunningham, Hawks blog

133 comments Add your comment

Rufus1

January 20th, 2011
4:08 pm

rr

January 20th, 2011
4:14 pm

We MUST get a BIG and a POINT!

ClassicHawks

January 20th, 2011
4:18 pm

I Can See Us DOing BIG Things This Year If We Stick To The BIG Lineup and start bringing Marvin Off The Bench. We Need To Get Great On The Defensive End Which We Are Capable Of Doing With The BIG Lineup. I Like How LD Has The Team Playing For The Most Part. They Are Maturing Before Our Eyes, I Just Don’t Think We Have Enough BIGS To Beat Boston or L.A.

billybob

January 20th, 2011
4:20 pm

So I guess Etan might get some pt then these next two games

terrell

January 20th, 2011
4:38 pm

Wonder if Marvin’s inviting CP3 over for dinner when they arrive on Friday? Just a thought.

terrell

January 20th, 2011
4:38 pm

I meant when they arrive?

Mark

January 20th, 2011
4:51 pm

The Hawks are doing a great job this year and are providing to be contenders in the eastern conference. I believe that when Marvin becomes healthy to have him come off the bench to help Jamal with the scoring for the second unit. Also, they will help Marvin play a bigger role for the teams because he would have to start scoring more when Josh, Al, or Joe is out of the game. And I really think the hawks need to trade Jeff Teague because he is not playing any role in the Hawks rotation. I would like to see him traded for Jason Thompson because he can provide scoring and rebounding whenever LD takes Horford or Josh out of the game. Having Thompson along with Jamal, Marvin, Zaza, and Mo will become a huge upgrade for a second unit and will help the Hawks contend for a champion this year. Teague is a good player but it is time for the Hawks to make moves so they can compete for a title this year. Teague for Thompson will be a steal for the Hawks and they should consider this trade.

terrell

January 20th, 2011
5:15 pm

If it’s such a steal, then why is Sacramento after Teague, when they already have Evans and Udrih?

Ra'mon

January 20th, 2011
5:18 pm

Mark, the Hawks need some more help upfront. However, they don’t need another finesse player (which Thompson is). They need a B. Wallace, Okur, or Kaman type of player who can come in, and have a lot of experience in going against D12, Shaq, Perkins, and all. They need a backup c who isn’t scared to whack a player across the head.

Jamillion

January 20th, 2011
5:19 pm

Keep teague he is gonna be way better than thompson. Trade marvin mo and that pick for nash

terrell

January 20th, 2011
5:23 pm

Why would Phoenix want Marvin and his bad back? They’ve already overpaid for one of our terrible draft picks. Why do it again?

terrell

January 20th, 2011
5:24 pm

Ramon, Thompson is a finesse player, but Okur isnt?

Ra'mon

January 20th, 2011
5:29 pm

Terrell, have you seen Okur play in the post season? Okur is a great shooter, but he’s also physical when needed on defense, the same with Kaman.

Ra'mon

January 20th, 2011
5:33 pm

In 08, when Utah made their run to the WCF, Okur averaged 15.4 ppg/ 11.8 rpg.

Rufus1

January 20th, 2011
5:38 pm

ClassicHawks

The only one BIG DOG in the east is Boston…because we have figured out the Magic and they have gotten smaller and softer.

With our current roster the only team we may not be able to beat is Boston…. So what do we need to beat them.

hawks_4_life

January 20th, 2011
5:38 pm

Ra’mon but thats over two years ago, isnt he injured? Last thing we need is an injured big when we already have a limp duck.

Hawks 1 fun

January 20th, 2011
5:43 pm

Rick Sund need to try a get a center, trade Mervin, Zaza, EVan and the 1 st round pick, but this Gm has not done any thing. All the starters were build by Knight and if we can not afford to sign JC we should get some body for return. This team is not going anywhere the way they are now any way.

Rufus1

January 20th, 2011
5:43 pm

Ramon

I would like Okur, but he hasn’t been healthy in about 2 years.

terrell

January 20th, 2011
5:43 pm

Ramon, that was 08? lol!

Jamillion

January 20th, 2011
5:49 pm

Believe it .One man’s trash is anothers treasure. Then he want the trash back. Like yo old girl, now u want her but she doing better now

Ra'mon

January 20th, 2011
5:50 pm

Rufus, hawks_4_life, Okur played in 73 games last season. And he’s been active the last two weeks, coming into game shape. When you have as many wings as we have, a Marvin and pieces trade for Okur, would be great for play off basketball. And his shooting allows Josh and Al to spend more time on the block, because he’s a better shooter than both. Not to mention he’s 6′11, 265 with only 2 seasons left on his contract.

Ra'mon

January 20th, 2011
5:51 pm

Jamillion

January 20th, 2011
5:58 pm

Cause terrel that’s who they wanted along wit mo and a pick. And sund don’t wanna do it. Look it up it’s old news.

Jamillion

January 20th, 2011
6:01 pm

Ramon i been for a okur trade and for the same reasons. Great minds think alot

drmaryb (*_*)

January 20th, 2011
6:06 pm

Jason Thompson = Solomon Jones!

No Beef! We don’t need a bean pole in the post! Who’s gonna’ bother the:

Celtics
Lakers

No one, people … We passed on Shaq! And, to our competitor, no doubt!
See Sund!

ICECOLD

January 20th, 2011
6:25 pm

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

Hey..this is a good trade.. Just saying… It will solve every team problems…

ICECOLD

January 20th, 2011
6:28 pm

Mark

January 20th, 2011
6:32 pm

Jason Thompson average 11ppg with 7rpg for his career. Teague average 4ppg with 1rpg and 1apg for career (Acie Law the Second). Thompson is a post present who can score down low as well score with his mid range game. Thompson is a 100 times better than solomon jones. The hawks honest need a big man who can defend and score. Thompson can at least provide the Hawks with scoring off the bench and play the center at times, too. He is also a banger in the inside and can defend post and hold his own. The hawks problem is lack of depth and JC is the only threat of the bench for the team. With Zaza, Powell, Etan, coming of the bench they only average 10.5ppg between the three. So I really don’t think another big man who can’t score will help the hawks compete. The only way Teague will be a better player if he gets traded because if he can challenge bibby for the starting pg job then it should show he is not good enough to have minutes on the floor. Put it like this, at least Thompson will help the hawks immediately than teague. For Williams, I really don’t like him but have him come off the bench.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 20th, 2011
6:37 pm

Beating New Orleans, the 6th best defensive team in the league, is going to be tough without Al Horford, the Hawks’ most efficient offensive player.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 20th, 2011
6:38 pm

If the Hawks manage to include Zaza in a trade in which they don’t take back an equally terrible player with an equally terrible contract, it would be a miracle straight from the heavens.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 20th, 2011
6:40 pm

As far as Bibby’s dime/non-dime is concerned, it’s well established that NBA official scorers are not always entirely unbiased and accurate.

O'Brien

January 20th, 2011
6:44 pm

From the previous blog;

I am ok trading Jamal to help improve the overall depth on the team. However, I think the bigger problem is with LD, not necessarily with Jamal.

LD needs to keep Jamal on a leash based on his performance. if he has it going, then let him lick his fingers, and do what he does. But if he is struggling, LD needs to limit his minutes. Both LD and Woody have not done a good job of that at times.

As for Marvin, LD’s offense has helped him, and he was playing better before he got hurt. He will get his opportunity in the playoffs to show once and for all what he can do.

Rod from College Park

January 20th, 2011
6:56 pm

O’Brien,

You can’t keep a leash on a player like Jamal. One minute he’s cold, the next minute he’s hot. We don’t have enough true scorers to be able to put him on a leash. A couple of weeks of good play don’t determine if LD’s offense has helped Marvin. Wait till the end of the year to make that determination.

Dept. of Unintended Irony

January 20th, 2011
6:58 pm

“Thompson is a post present who can score down low as well score with his mid range game.”

LOL! Wouldn’t “post present” mean “past”?

Ramon

January 20th, 2011
7:03 pm

O’Brien, in your mind, who’s the worse contract, Al Harrington or Marvin Williams?lol I say Al’s but not by much.

Dooley

January 20th, 2011
7:08 pm

Sign peja stojakovic to come off the bench because honestly he still can shoot and we need that.Let damien wilkins go and put peja on the playoff roster.This may sound crazy but we are desperately in need for scoring at the 3.Plus hes 6-10.That stretches the floor

Ramon

January 20th, 2011
7:10 pm

Dooley, that’s not a bad idea. I look at it as if you sign Peja, it allows you to package Marvin and Mo together. Or it allows you to package Marvin, Mo, or Zaza together for front court help. But Peja can’t expect to play more than 14 min a game max.

Ramon

January 20th, 2011
7:11 pm

I wonder if Bibby and Peja has a good relationship after their days together in Sac.

Dooley

January 20th, 2011
7:19 pm

That would prolly be a good pickup and i forgot about him and peja in the sac days but the hawks are not going to do this because they are very stingy when it comes to spending money and peja is close to a buyout with the raptors and the teams who are interested are the mavs,lakers and hornets.I wish we had better owners.You have to spend money to be a winner.All the contenders are over the luxuary tax but the hawks are determined to win without going into the luxary but its not going to happen ther’ye missing too many pieces

Ramon

January 20th, 2011
7:20 pm

Too bad, Dallas has an agreement with Peja, once he clears waivers.

Ramon

January 20th, 2011
7:22 pm

Grandad, Ajinca is about to be traded to Toronto, to make a spot for Peja, lol. Ajinca is being traded for NOTHING! .lol

Dooley

January 20th, 2011
7:25 pm

dang.hawks another loss.Almost like they not trying to get better

Najeh Davenpoop

January 20th, 2011
8:58 pm

Why can’t the Hawks’ goofy Eastern European big man be as athletic and defensively effective as the Bulls’ goofy Eastern European big man?

yoursporthouse.com

January 20th, 2011
9:02 pm

You mean the goofy Eastern European big man that just got his sh#t swatted 3 times?

dsee

January 20th, 2011
9:09 pm

Now is the perfect time to send Joe, Josh Powell, M Evans to NJ for D Favors, A Morrow, T Murphy and 2 draft picks. New Jersey gets a franchise (face), Atlanta gets another high energy guy (Favors) to play D./rebound, a good 2nd team Shooting guard & a power foward with range.
Next, send Jamal C., Ethan Thomas & draft picks to Phoenix for Steve Nash & Robin Lopez.

We have more scoring/assists and more defence. A young Center and 2 veteran Point guards. Favors/Lopez/Smooth/AL have more energy than most teams. Offence will not be a problem with the addition of Morrow/Nash/Murphy.

That team can Win this year and have cap space next year.

yoursporthouse.com

January 20th, 2011
9:15 pm

dsee, stop smoking, nobody wants Joe’s contract.

slimjr

January 20th, 2011
9:31 pm

“dang.hawks another loss.Almost like they not trying to get better”

Naw Master Sund thinks his squad is an elite or right on the cusp!…News Flash SUND your gonna get another beat down if you don’t make a move for the playoffs upcoming…Its going to get real nasty again and again and again and again…..Blah Blah Blah……………………………..

Dept. of unintended Irony

January 20th, 2011
9:32 pm

Who am I SUND?

Slimjr

January 20th, 2011
9:33 pm

ZAZA=THE BIG STIFF, Just sorry…WOW….

Slimjr

January 20th, 2011
9:36 pm

Trade Marvin for Spike Lee darn it!