Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 104, Raptors 101

Raps couldn't stop Jamal. (AP Photo)

Raps couldn't stop Jamal. (AP Photo)

  • If you are going to play no defense and get into an freewheeling shootout like the Hawks did in the first half, it’s good to have Jamal on your side. I thought he was going to provide the answer to Jason Walker’s poll at Peachtree Hoops after just one day.
  • “I was a little concerned going into this game after what we’ve gone through in the last couple days in Atlanta with the snow and the ice of not being able to get the players on the floor and get some time in and get some shots up,” L.D. told reporters. “I was a little concerned that we would be a little rusty. Jamal, he came in that first half and really did a great job of getting us going and keeping us in it. Our defense I thought was really as low-energy as it’s been all year. But we were able to stay in it offensively because he made some shots.”
  • If you need a big shot, Jamal and Bibby are good choices. If you need to get stops in a possession-by-possession game like this one became in the second half, neither guard is ideal. That’s why you saw L.D. make offense-defense substitutions with those two and Wilkins and Mo.
  • Amir Johnson had gotten an and-1 on a pick-and-roll with Calderon vs. Bibby and Al for a 101-99 lead. But Johnson fouled things up when the Raps tried the same play again and he seemed less concerned with rolling to the basket and (for some reason) more worried about taking out Jamal.
  • He inexplicably committed an obvious moving screen against Jamal (who sold it well to officials) with 10.5 seconds to go. That left the door open for the Hawks, and Bibby busted through it. He curled around a double screen from Al and Josh to make a 3. I think it was the same play the Hawks used for a key bucket late in their W at Orlando.
  • Calderon thought he had a mismatch when Al switched off on him but really he would have been better off trying to swing the ball around and isolate one of Atlanta’s guards. Al played excellent D to get a piece of Calderon’s shot without fouling, then pulled back as the ball went off Calderon’s shoulder and out of bounds.
  • Officials originally awarded the ball to the Hawks Raps but overturned it after looking at the replay. “I was not sure [of the call]; that’s why I called my guys in,” L.D. said. “My players were indicating the ball went off them. I was actually preparing myself to defend on that end because I didn’t see what happened.”
  • After Joe made two free throws, the Hawks survived a pretty good 3-point look for Bargnani. The Hawks didn’t handle the Raps like the better teams have lately but they got out of Toronto with their fifth straight W and ninth in their last 11.
  • They can thank Jamal for that. He was most of Atlanta’s offense in the first half. When he stopped scoring in the third, the Raps came back. In the fourth Jamal made a 30-foot 3-pointer, found Al for a key fastbreak layup and craftily drew a foul from DeRozan on a 3-point attempt and made all three free throws to give the Hawks a99-98 lead.
  • Jamal had 36 points on 23 shots with no turnovers. “He’s every coach’s dream when you talk about a guy who can come off the bench and get you going,” L.D. said. “He knows what I expect from him. When the team is not going well and we need productivity off the bench, he comes in there and I run plays for him to get us going and tonight he kept us around that first half and then we found a way at the end.”
  • About Jamal’s only real mishap late in the game was picking up a rare technical foul. He thought Barbosa hooked him on an and-1, and he had a point, but that’s a bad spot for a tech.
  • J.J. (26 points on 20 shots) was nearly as efficient as Jamal. He had five turnovers and missed some spot-ups but he’s got his floater working and really is showing a knack for finding space in the offense. He also suckered DeRozan into fouling him on a 3.
  • Josh was nonexistent offensively for much of the game while floating around the perimeter but then took Johnson to the post for a key basket in the fourth. He missed a 3-pointer with the Hawks down 93-91 but it was off good ball movement, in rhythm, he was open and he’s still the second-most accurate from there so hard to fault him too much.
  • Bargnani did a good job of challenging Al’s face-ups. His defense (and the two-foul rule) took Al out of his game as he too often held the ball while trying to size Bargnani up. Al and Zaza struggled to stay with Bargnani on defense but both guys rebounded.
  • Al and Smoove both tweaked their ankles but returned to the game.
  • Mo lately is making more of his spot-up jumpers. He’ll get opportunities so if he keeps that up it adds yet another offensive threat for the Hawks.
  • Wilkins has a knack for getting to the free-throw line, especially for a guy who isn’t much of a threat to score. He always goes hard to the basket.
  • Teague got some early run and was minus-7 in seven minutes. Sometimes he beats the first line of defense and then backs it out instead of trying to get to the rim for his floater or setting up a drive-and-kick.

MC

337 comments Add your comment

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:02 pm

Geoff

January 12th, 2011
11:03 pm

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:04 pm

We could have used Marvin tonight. Man I am glad I signed him for such a great deal. Wow! 8 million a year is a steal with a player such UPSIDE.

Scoop

January 12th, 2011
11:16 pm

Our defense was almost as bad as the officiating.

We probably gave up 30 lay ups on defense and settled for 30 three-point attempts. In total, we turned the ball over about 15 times, were on the bad side of some questionable calls and still found a way to get a win on the road.

Overall, I think Coach Drew did a solid job, but would of liked to see us play some zone to counter the penetration that Toronto was getting all night. Barbosa and Calderon had a field day, and nobody inside offered any resistance.

Smoove is a black hole on offense. He is not MJ and any time he gets the ball the possession ends in a turnover or a bad shot. Hopefully, when Marvin coming back will help in this regard.

the sham

January 12th, 2011
11:18 pm

Is Marvin still on the team? Hmm… hadn’t noticed…

Can we package him and Joe J for Melo? I have a friend in Denver who can slip something in their GM’s drink. Just say the word Rick and the ball can be put into motion… just say the word.

ant banks

January 12th, 2011
11:19 pm

did raptors lose this game or did the hawks get lucky? i think it was a litte of both. i will take the win, but damn i wish we had played better.

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:26 pm

Sham, you obviously don’t appreciate the UPSIDE and POTENTIAL that Marvin brings every night. Get rid of Joe, are you crazy?! He’s a SUPERSTAR! You like most fans don’t realize that we are an ELITE team and ELITENESS (if that’s a word) is accomplished during the REGULAR SEASON not the playoffs. Why can’t fans be satisfied with the fact that we will have another 50 win season. So ungrateful. What a fanbase

MsDee

January 12th, 2011
11:27 pm

WOW, the Clippers are putting a whipping on the Heat..MANN, if the Heat lose as bad as the Cavs lost to the Lakers, I SURE HOPE ONE OF THE CAVS WRITE LEBRON RIGHT BACK ON TWITTER HOW ‘GOD DONT LIKE UGLY EITHER!!’

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:28 pm

Ant Banks, just be satisfied that we won. Remember Ant, our goal this year is not necessarily a championship, but IMPROVEMENT. For us that would be to win 1 game in the SECOND ROUND.

terrell

January 12th, 2011
11:29 pm

Dont look now, but the Hawks are tied for the 3rd seed.

terrell

January 12th, 2011
11:29 pm

Msdee, long way to go in that one.

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:32 pm

MsDee this is a Hawks blog, not a Heat, Cavs, or Lebron blog. Please just come out and support on Chik Fila Family Night. That would 4 drinks, 4 hotdogs, and 4 popcorns for the entire family. Come out and watch this UNDER RATED ELITE team that will win 50 games and HOPE FOR A SHOT TO GET TO THE SECOND ROUND SO THAT WE CAN WIN ONE GAME AND NOT BE SWEPT.

MannyT

January 12th, 2011
11:32 pm

MC you got it reversed in the notes. Officials awarded ball to Raptors. Went to video replay to reverse it and award ball to Hawks after Al stopped Calderon.

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:34 pm

Thanks Terrell finally a fan that appreciate the fact that we are moving up in the standings. Terrell knows we are CHAMPIONSHIP CALIBER team. One of our goals is to get HOME COURT advantage in the FIRST ROUND.

ant banks

January 12th, 2011
11:38 pm

“Rick Sund” you need to get off this blog at 11:43 and be on the phone with the suns tryin’ to get nash in here. get to work buddy.

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:41 pm

Scoop you don’t know what you are talking about when it comes to Josh Smith. He has great POTENTIAL when it comes to his offensive play. He is showing that he is one of the best PURE SHOOTERS in the game. He also has GREAT BALL HANDLING ABILITY and can complement him enough on his GREAT PASSING. Scoop, I don’t know what game you are watching, but Josh is a truly a RAW TALENT that has POLISHED his skills.

MsDee

January 12th, 2011
11:42 pm

@terrell,

Yeah, I know its early, that’s why I said, “IF the Heat lose as bad as the Cavs lost to the Lakers..” Oh and i just realize, talk about Karma, just like LA Lakers KILLED the Cavs, LA Clippers need to handle the Heat.. both are from LA!!

Rick Sund

January 12th, 2011
11:44 pm

Ant Banks what are you talking about? We have a PROVEN VETERAN point guard who is GREAT DEFENDER in Mike Bibby. Are you serious Ant. We’re trying to work on an 5 YEAR extension on Bibby. As you can see, he still has the LEGS to START and play at least 40 minutes.

ATL FAN

January 12th, 2011
11:53 pm

lol Rick Sund

terrell

January 12th, 2011
11:59 pm

Ok Rick Sund, give it a break.

rusty

January 13th, 2011
12:00 am

1. Ld doesn’t start jc1 in the third quarter when he is on fire,starts mo & let’s him get cold,how dumb
2 in the third quarter jj feels he has to step up & has to get his shots & show jc1 who the real man is. He starts holding onto the ball using up the cloak,takes poor shots missing them & then starts throwing the ball away,finally ld sees this & pulls him. He took jc1 out of his groove. Barbosa make him look bad on defense constantly loosing
3. Horford didn’t get enough shots, should have gotten more minutes, what the he’ll was zazza in so long, he couldn’t do one think right. What the hell was js doing taking all those jumpers,he has to get his head out of his ass & start playing like a man not a wuss. I really like Josh but get so sick of his crap. He needs to stay on top of his man , giving to many open shots ,play defense.
4. Mb came thru in the clutch even tho he had a poor game,way to slow off & def. Ld is making jt play scared with the limited minutes
5 ld needs to play his bench , Etan or powell or collins can’t play as good as zazza

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:02 am

@ATL FAN
This is no laughing matter. This team gets no respect and most Atlanta fans need to realize that maybe their STANDARDS are TOO HIGH. Remember ATL FAN it TAKES TIME and we are still LEARNING HOW TO WIN. We just want you to see our POTENTIAL. That is why we brought in Larry Drew. It’s not because he came CHEAP, but we know that he has a PHIL JACKSONESQUE offensive mind. Can’t you see how his offense has TRANSFORMED Josh into a GREAT JUMPSHOOTER.

terrell

January 13th, 2011
12:04 am

Clippers up by only 9 Ms Dee. lol!

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:04 am

Terrell I was just complementing you on your high standards in regards to this team. You know that Rome wasn’t built in a day. We thank you for your support.

Geemack

January 13th, 2011
12:18 am

I wonder what Al’s numbers look like when he plays PF compared to Center?

Also the Hawks completely ignored the inside game tonight.

If they had exploited their weakness inside, this game wouldn’t have been close.

Great way pull out a victory on the road.

Major de`Coverly

January 13th, 2011
12:18 am

Mister Scoop sir how can you say josh is a black hole because he is the best passer on the team and he very unselfish also. I like leon barbosa
and wish he could play for the hawks. could he be a point gard.

MsDee

January 13th, 2011
12:21 am

@terrell,

Yeah, I am fully aware of the score! I still hope the Clippers could keep their composure and pull up an upset!!

Najeh Davenpoop

January 13th, 2011
12:22 am

Chris Bosh was just posted up on Baron Davis and shot a turnaround fadeaway brick. If there is a more overrated player in the league, I don’t know who it is.

With that said, the Clippers are guaranteed to blow this game.

rms

January 13th, 2011
12:23 am

shut up Rick!!!

rms

January 13th, 2011
12:25 am

RICK SUND:
Since you have so much time on your hands go find us a real color commentator to replace Dominique. I dont know which person is more annoying listening to him during the games or listening to your pathetic excuses as to why our team is supposedly so great!

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:26 am

@RMS

Why should I shutup. What did I say that was wrong. I am only telling the truth. How can I be of service to you rms? Remember, it is all about the Fans. That is why we BROUGHT BACK JOE JOHNSON because of his GREAT ATTITUDE towards the fans. We know you guys love Joe. He is after all one of the elite players in the league. Kobe, Wade, Lebron, Melo and then JOE.

Clyde

January 13th, 2011
12:28 am

We need to give Jamal a new contract point blank.

ICECOLD

January 13th, 2011
12:30 am

all the hawks need now is a center that doesnt exist, a point guard who is imortal and doesnt age.. and marvin williams and zaza needs to be traded to teams that got 100s of those types of players.. small back up center, a small forward who is a underachiever !! ..

Look, only teams that rebuild or keep trading players are teams that have a real real superstar, like lebron, dwade, melo, dwight h ,d rose, cp3, d williams, or boston ( whole team) or kobe!!! if you dont have any of them.. their is no need to try to trade too many peices and.. either this team is going to win like this , or lose like this, because their is nothing else.. so might as well keep this group together so at least you can have the chemistry advantage!!!

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:34 am

@RMS

I am only over player personnel, not commentators. As far as the POTENTIAL that this team has, we brought back Joe at a REASONABLE rate because he is a CENTERPIECE for a CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM. Nobody else in league has a better RUNNER or FLOATER shot in the league. He is one of the GREAT NON FREE THROW shooting scorers in the league. Remember RMS, we are still YOUNG and are still LEARNING. We are just going through GROWING PAINS that most teams deal with before becoming a champion. When Marvin REACHES his POTENTIAL and UPSIDE, he will be the ROBIN to Joe who is our BATMAN. With Josh and PHENOMENAL play, we are sure to beat a MIAMI HEAT or BOSTON CELTIC team. We have DEPTH with Teague, Jamal, and the Zaza “THE ENFORCER” Just wait RMS, all we need to do is IMPROVE every year.

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:37 am

Well Clyde you are definitely right about Jamal. I am trying to work within our salary cap situation. That is why we have raised ticket prices. If you fans could appreciate a 50 win team that MAKES THE PLAYOFFS, we would have more money. With guys like Joe, Marvin, and Josh we should SELLOUT every night.

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:42 am

ICE COLD, you are right on point. We should just STAY THE COURSE with this team. I am glad that you have bought into our plan for WINNING A CHAMPIONSHIP. Like you said, just as long as we have the CHEMISTRY ADVANTAGE. Why be like Orlando who just traded players on their team. We could have done that because we do have one SUPERSTAR which is JOE JOHNSON, but we realized that this team at some point can GO ALL THE WAY. I disagree that we need to trade Marvin. With his AGGRESSIVE play, we are sure to be a THREAT to anyone who faces us.

rms

January 13th, 2011
12:44 am

RICK SUND:
Do you smell that? Its like a strong, foul, musty odor. Oh yeah thats the BULLSh!T coming from your mouth!!!

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
12:48 am

@RMS

Your STANDARDS are just TOO HIGH. We are looking to see you this week for CHik Fila Family Night. Remember RMS that is 4 drinks, 4 popcorns, and 4 Sodas for the entire family. Marvin should be back by Saturday. Thanks for you support.

Melvin

January 13th, 2011
12:48 am

Did Lebron sprain his ankle? Did somebody say something about Karma the other day….

rms

January 13th, 2011
12:55 am

LMAO @ RICK SUCK!! You are too much for me man, good nite!!

MsDee

January 13th, 2011
1:04 am

@terrell,

HELLO TERRELL…LOOKS LIKE I WAS RIGHT..LA CLIPPERS WILL DEFEAT THE HEAT IN THE STAPLES CENTER ‘NO DOUBT’!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SAME PLACE THE LA LAKERS DEFEATED THE CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!! MANN, I HOPE SOMEONE FROM THE CAVS WILL TWITTER LEBRON RIGHT BACK!!

Rick Sund

January 13th, 2011
1:08 am

Good Nite to you sir and remember RMS, it’s all about UPSIDE!

The Truth

January 13th, 2011
1:08 am

“Officials originally awarded the ball to the Hawks but overturned it after looking at the replay.”

Correction: “Officials originally awarded the ball to the Raptors but overturned it after looking at the replay.”

Melvin

January 13th, 2011
1:09 am

MsDee,

To add the Heat lost, look as if Lebron tweak his ankle. I wouldn’t be surprise if he missed some gametime once that ankle tighten up over night….

SteveW

January 13th, 2011
1:23 am

According to ESPN the potential ‘Melo trade has the Nets/Nuggets shopping Devin Harris around the League to see if they could include anther team besides them and Detroit to do a deal. Wonder if the Hawks are interested? If the trade consortium would bite, maybe the Hawks could dump enough contracts with their Trade Exception to re-sign Jamal and get Devin.

Marvin, Bibby, Mo’, and the Trade Exception for Harris and TMac, and maybe somebody gives us a 1st pick in the deal also. Then we have the Mid Level to re-sign Jamal if he’d take it. Risky, but worth a shot maybe.

And then maybe trade Devin Harris for Nash if everybody wants Nash. He’s 10 years younger than Nash, and perfect for the up tempo Offense of the Suns. But we may want to keep Devin.

Anyway, probably never happen….

tjhook

January 13th, 2011
1:24 am

“Rick Sund” = lowered expectations

Spartacus

January 13th, 2011
1:28 am

Hey, a road win is a road win and the win streak keeps on going. Josh is what Josh is, an immature player that thinks he’s a team leader and is lazy unless he has the ball or has an opportunity for a block. Some nights, he’s great and some nights he’s terrible. Rarely is he just mediocre.

By the way, I was wondering if anyone knew what good old Woody was up to now? Haven’t heard of him being on another coaching staff and don’t see him as an analyst on tv; anyone know?

Carlos

January 13th, 2011
2:37 am

Wins like this mean nothing. It’s really simple people. What are most of our expectations or wishes? That the Hawks can compete with the elites of the East at a level where they could potentially win a series against them. Correct? It’s pretty much a given that we are going to the playoffs, so individual W/L dont mean much to me. When I watch the Hawks play, I look for 2 things.

Number 1: Does this game show me something that encourages me to believe that we can compete with and beat the elite in the east.

Number 2: Does this game show me something that makes me believe that we still are not there yet.

Despite the win, this is a Number 2 in my book.

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

January 13th, 2011
2:58 am

RICK SUND! you have too much time on your hands – shut ya trap and get back to work bolstering this roster for a deep playoff push!

just facts

January 13th, 2011
7:34 am

can someone give me any hope why we are not pretty much a sixth seed for the next few years? the bulls are now way ahead of us in every part of the equation and the knicks are right there. both of those teams are definitely on the upswing while we are at best on a plateau.
seriously… somebody give me some hope.