Atlanta Hawks at Raptors: No Canada
Long and boring story short: I didn’t make it to Toronto. Neither did Etan, who apparently couldn’t get out of his ‘hood. Marvin’s sore back didn’t allow didn’t make the trip, either.
I plan to watch the game on TV and then post some analysis here. Until then, here is some Hawks-related linkage:
Hollinger cautions: “‘good’ here is relative — none of these teams is going to win the championship, and it’s likely that none will even host a first-round playoff series. Nonetheless, there’s an interesting story brewing with several clubs that have been well off the league’s radar since early in the season, and it’s high time we revisited them” Says Hollinger:
“Especially noticeable is that there’s far better ball movement than in the “iso-Joe” offense under Mike Woodson. But perhaps more important is that the Hawks’ formerly shambolic transition D has significantly improved now that they’re not sending the entire team to the offensive glass. . . . This team remains flawed — it’s basically four good players and a whole lot of filler — but has coped with injuries surprisingly well. . . . As a result, the Hawks are on the upswing.”
“Makes sense since: A) He was the only capable scorer for many of the past 7 seasons. B) One must gobble up possessions to achieve such heights, usually, and Johnson was/is the alpha dog in terms of possession usage, so it would be difficult for another player to sneak in there unless Joe was injured and that player took his possessions.”
MC
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ant banks
January 12th, 2011
6:04 pm
first
i_am_soulstar
January 12th, 2011
6:05 pm
Ouch on that Pape Sy comment
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
6:05 pm
So a sub-D-League quality player is why the Hawks can’t sign Damien Wilkins for the rest of the season.
Fantastic.
Maybe while they are at it they can cut Jason Collins and sign Cenk Akyol to his roster spot.
ant banks
January 12th, 2011
6:05 pm
wow!!! my first time bein’ first since the JULY 17, 2010 blog. I would like to thank the CREATOR, who make all things possible. I would like to thank my mother….
Another GM
January 12th, 2011
6:08 pm
Have we ever had someone in the front office make a decent pick? Last good thing out of the draft was the deal for Nique. Heck I think the guys on Hawksquawk could do a better job, as a matter of fact I know they could.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
6:09 pm
lmao @ ant banks
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
6:12 pm
So Rick and the ASG finally bring over a second round pick, AND they paid part of his buyout. Only to watch him struggle in D-League. Ouch. I heard he is 6-35 from the field. I think I could go 6-35 in the D-League, and I suck at basketball.
That being said, its still early, and this season is all about learning for him. We’ll see how he does next off-season in training camp etc.
Etan has only played 18 minutes all year, so maybe he used the weather as an excuse for not going to Canada. J/K Etan.
When Marvin came back from his back injury a couple seasons ago, he was slow to get back to 100%. I wont be surprised if he struggles when he comes back.
Hawks need a win tonight.
Kari
January 12th, 2011
6:14 pm
RELAX!! SY just came off a 4 month layoff due to injury. What were you expecting? Did you see Joe play after 3 weeks off? It took him over 2 weeks to get his groove back. It should take Sy a while to get his game on…
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
6:21 pm
Agreeing with Kari!! Was Agent 0 all that when he 1st came in the league from getting drafted in the 2nd round?? Give Sy some time.
Ray
January 12th, 2011
6:22 pm
Yeah I’m with Kari above
Pape Sy is going to take a lot of time to develop anyways I hope they weren’t expecting him to come in like some type of Lebron James, or Paul Pierce I mean yeah if you were I’d be disappointed to lol.
Give the guy some time he might turn out better than we think just needs to do workouts and work on his fundamentals. They saw something in him I don’t know what it was, but it was something.
Atlgent
January 12th, 2011
6:23 pm
“When Marvin came back from his back injury a couple seasons ago, he was slow to get back to 100%. I wont be surprised if he struggles when he comes back.”
Hmm..exactly what is “100%” of Marvin Williams worth? I’m just asking?
RA
January 12th, 2011
6:34 pm
Give Sy a little time. The boy’s been in bubble wrap all season. I respect Sund enough to give him at least the rest of the year in the D-league before I consider him a waste…
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
6:41 pm
It is early for Sy, and even if he takes 2 years to develop, he will still be a decent pick, considering he was the 53rd pick, and he was so young.
As Najeh said though, the issue is the Hawks are wasting a roster spot on him right now, when they could have left him overseas, and signed Damien for the entire season.
This is a game the Hawks have to win. They’ve been on a high (including a beat down of Utah in Utah), and they have Miami on Monday, so we need to keep the good vibes going.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
6:51 pm
MC,
So are you hanging with us tonight, or will you be too busy writing your game story?
(Some of us realize that you have an actual JOB to do.)
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
7:22 pm
O’Brien,
We kind of let the “Horford banging” thing slide. I guess when we are winning and playing well, it becomes a moot point.
But, that said, I’m glad to see him active on the boards so far.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:26 pm
number 10 is killing us
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:27 pm
lmfao@josh
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
7:28 pm
Smoove said he had that but somebody left a door open
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:29 pm
he seems to always make them corner 3s though
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
7:31 pm
LMAO@Zaza…
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:32 pm
its official zaza is the worse center in the nba
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
7:33 pm
Nice to see Teague and Damien in the first quarter.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
7:34 pm
….Teague may should have took that one hard to the hoop himself
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
7:35 pm
Is there anybody on this blog that couldn’t block Zaza’s turnaround?
Anybody? Bueller?
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:37 pm
man i wonder if I have class tomorrow they need to update us
Brad
January 12th, 2011
7:38 pm
Nique:”Jamal Crawford has got the 6th man of the year sewn up” lol
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
7:39 pm
Oh snap, Bob pulling double duty tonight. I guess Jerome Jurenovich couldn’t get out of his driveway either.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:40 pm
there you go josh drive the ball
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
7:41 pm
useless
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
7:41 pm
Zaza… f-ck.
terrell
January 12th, 2011
7:42 pm
LMAO @ Zaza trying to take somebody off the dribble.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:43 pm
omg jamal
terrell
January 12th, 2011
7:44 pm
And yall wanna trade Jamal. lol!
Sleepy
January 12th, 2011
7:44 pm
Jamals aggressiveness has been pretty amazing you can tell that guy just smells the money lol
Im waiting on him to a Rod Tidwell in the playoffs
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:46 pm
smh josh
terrell
January 12th, 2011
7:47 pm
Damn Teague.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
7:47 pm
Teague was playing pretty well until that dumbass mistake.
LionHearted
January 12th, 2011
7:47 pm
My god
LionHearted
January 12th, 2011
7:47 pm
Josh dumb meter is pretty high for this game
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
7:48 pm
i dont think ive ever seen that..
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
7:48 pm
I guess we’ll see Teague again in February. LOL!
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:50 pm
uh oh
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
7:50 pm
The crazies thing is, Jamal is getting fouled on half these shots too.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:50 pm
“heat check”
Sleepy
January 12th, 2011
7:51 pm
jamal with the jj-esque heat check lol wth
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:53 pm
you got to be kidding me
terrell
January 12th, 2011
7:53 pm
Where’s Collins? Would someone protect the basket please!
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:54 pm
yes where is collins
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
7:56 pm
Collins on Bargnani would be sad. Bargnani spends most of his time outside the paint.
Sleepy
January 12th, 2011
7:56 pm
looking back to through the game game logs jamal has had 40+ pt game and a 50 pt game against Toronto so I think he likes playing the Raps
We need to turn up the intensity a bit on the offensive end its like we are expecting them to miss all of there shots . Lets close out this quarter with a nice burst and finish the half strong
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
7:57 pm
where are the blocks from josh???
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:01 pm
wtf is going on
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:02 pm
Can Jamal go for 50 tonight? I sure would love to see that!
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:03 pm
We played decent D for the first 10 minutes of the game.
Since then………not so much.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
8:04 pm
Al should really be in the game right now. It’s dangerously close at this point, and Al was playing great. Also, Al was doing a very good job defending Bargnani as well, and now “Il Mago” is starting to go off a bit. That second foul on Al was total BS as well. He didn’t even touch the man on that one. At any rate, I hope the Hawks can maintain their lead through halftime.
Larry Drew has definitely been improving as a coach, but he still has a few annoying habits that need to go. Hopefully, the 2 foul rule or the “Horford Treatment”, as some people like to call it, will be abandoned permanently in the future.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:04 pm
Not one of Smoove’s better games.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
8:06 pm
Amir Johnson has no respect for Zaza
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:06 pm
wow…the shots the raptors are making
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
8:06 pm
50 pt game?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:07 pm
I’m pretty sure that if Jamal goes for 50 in this game, he will become the only player in NBA history to have scored 50 with 4 different teams.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:07 pm
Excellent rotation by Zaza. Best thing I’ve seen from him lately.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:07 pm
why is jamal not shooting come on joe dont steal his shine
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:09 pm
The ASG needs to pay LD some more money so he can get some better suits.
Hawks needs to clamp up on the Raptors in the 2nd half. So far, Hawks playing loose defence.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:09 pm
wow josh is not trying to block shots like he use to
terrell
January 12th, 2011
8:10 pm
If someone would help Jamal out a little bit, we’d be up 20.
Andy
January 12th, 2011
8:16 pm
It seems like someone says this during almost every game, and in this game, I feel urged to point it out once again. Josh takes way too many shots for the limited offensive ability he has. His shot selection, for one, was terrible for the most part tonight. The last jumper he made in the half was a good shot in the flow of the offense, but the rest of his shots were really harming the team. 9 shots in the half? Come on, Josh. A player of Josh’s offensive ability should not be taking 18-20 shots per game when you look at the other players on the team.
Joe, Jamal, and Al should all have more field goal attempts than Josh, unless Josh’s shots come directly in the flow of the offense or are wide open layups/dunks. I really wish Josh would grow up and come back down to Earth. He’s not a great offensive player. He is a very good player, but he should be focusing on making his mark in other areas of the game and not trying to be the leading scorer. I dream of the day when Josh will play his game and learn his boundaries on a consistent basis.
ThePro
January 12th, 2011
8:16 pm
Ref did have a choice but to call a foul on Zaza there
ThePro
January 12th, 2011
8:17 pm
Jamal u da man
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:21 pm
lmao “big nimbers”
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:22 pm
Jamal scored 25 points in 16 minutes. How many can he score in 35? Lately he’s been so efficient with the ball. Seems to be out to prove a point!
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:22 pm
Andy,
Four of Josh’s seven misses were in the paint. He has only taken 3 shots outside of 13 ft and was 1 for 3 on those. You cannot deny that his jumper is better this year.
That said, you may be right about the 18 to 20 attempts. But so far tonight, I’ve only seen two ill-advised shots by Josh.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
8:23 pm
SportSouth should have a special segment during the halftime of each Hawks game called “‘Nique’s Nimbers”.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:24 pm
jamal for 50!
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:25 pm
How can Hawks give nice contracts to Marvin and Zaza, and not give Jamal one? It is a shame. Jamal is waaaaaaaay more valuable to them than those two!
Andy
January 12th, 2011
8:25 pm
Sautee,
Those shots that were in the paint didn’t really look like good shots to me. Some of them were forced, and at any rate, fall-away jumpshots from the paint are not really the types of shots I want Josh taking either. I don’t considering those to be high percentage shots, even if they were in the paint.
hawkfan
January 12th, 2011
8:26 pm
is it just me or does jose calderon look like a white version of prince, no joke
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:27 pm
ok these refs need to get it together
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:28 pm
is it me or do jose calderon and andrea bargnanin look alike?
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:29 pm
How many times has the Hawks run that back door play for Joe tonite? 3 times?
Blast
January 12th, 2011
8:31 pm
Hope LD does not keep Jamal on the bench too long. Wanna see him try for 50.
terrell
January 12th, 2011
8:31 pm
Never seen a team give up so many freakin layups.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:32 pm
The Raptors’ defense is really, really bad.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:33 pm
Weird 3rd quarter so far. Neither team looks entirely in sync.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:33 pm
put jamal in
hawkfan
January 12th, 2011
8:33 pm
so funny because during the new year holidays me and jeje were talking about how jamal is due for a 50 point game with the hawks
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:34 pm
smh I wonder what this team be thinking sometimes
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:35 pm
Joe thought Bibby was 7′ 2″. LOL
Rafa
January 12th, 2011
8:35 pm
Get Crawford back in, please
terrell
January 12th, 2011
8:35 pm
If Josh shoots another jumper, I’m going to scream. When’s he gonna realize his shots are not falling tonight? Omg! And put Jamal in for crying out loud. Nobody else wants to be here tonight.
Sleepy
January 12th, 2011
8:36 pm
Josh is 2-11 he needs to hit the boards and go into make the extra pass mode no need for a PF to keep tossing up shots like that
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:36 pm
resign jamal, he is way to valuable too loose.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:37 pm
Andy,
I don’t like the fallaways either, but I’ll take that over an out of rhythm 20 footer.
I was just saying that tonight his shot selection wasn’t a huge problem. Unlike some nights.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:37 pm
dont blame josh for shooting with 2 secs left on the shot clock
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:38 pm
lmaooooo joe
terrell
January 12th, 2011
8:39 pm
‘Jamal is way to valuable too loose”. lol!
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
8:39 pm
What…what just happened?
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:40 pm
just bench josh
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:41 pm
Every rap song they have played over the Raptors’ PA system all game has been at least five years old.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
8:41 pm
In 20 minutes, Bibby jas 5 points and 3 assists. In 4 minutes, Teague has 4 points.
And why is Josh taking so many shots? I know most of them are close, but shouldnt we be milking Jamal and JJ?
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:41 pm
josh stop chucking up shots that you think will go down. im still not 100% on his jump shot. still needs some work.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
8:42 pm
The Hawks desperately need to get Al involved more in the offense. This seems like a recurring theme in each game, but Al just doesn’t get enough touches sometimes. He only has 5 field goal attempts so far in this game. I would really like the Hawks to run some more pick-and-pop or pick-and-roll with him. I’d also really like to see them get him established in the paint early-on and let him go to work down there when they are struggling to find offense. That opens up a lot of other guys on the offensive end as well.
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
8:42 pm
Bad sign Al is hobbling, good sign Al is hobbling.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:42 pm
i meant lose gosh.
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:44 pm
I can’t stress how imporant it is for the 2nd unit to hold its own right here.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:44 pm
if the hawks dont resign jamal i think the hawks should go after barbosa.
hawkfan
January 12th, 2011
8:45 pm
wow at this rate jamal might end up with just 32 points the ball keeps going through jj
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:45 pm
What a horrible pass by Mo . . even after he pump faked.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:45 pm
wow embarrassinggggg 2 defenders
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:46 pm
teague travled ughhh.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
January 12th, 2011
8:46 pm
Teague allergic to shootin
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
8:46 pm
Sautee,
Al is averaging 9 rebounds per game in January, so he is doing better (imo).
Not too long ago, ‘Nique said the Raptors can’t stop the Hawks. Really ‘Nique? The Raptors are leading…
Come on Jeff. We need you to take care of the ball
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:46 pm
hawks are melting down big time
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:46 pm
When Smoove leaves the game, there is no effort on anyone’s part to contest shots at the rim.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
8:47 pm
thats a big 3
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
8:47 pm
poor effort from Za Za.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:47 pm
I really do hope we trade for nash without giving up jamal
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
8:48 pm
“When Smoove leaves the game, there is no effort on anyone’s part to contest shots at the rim.”
i mean NOBODY!
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:48 pm
lmao @bigdave
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:48 pm
Zaza is such a f-cking uncoordinated oaf. This is the second time in this game that he has pushed a guy after that guy gets the board instead of boxing that guy out in the first place.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:49 pm
nash would be a nice addition not to mention he is a 2 time mvp
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
8:49 pm
in 11 minutes, ZaZa has more fouls (3) than points (1). SMH…
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:49 pm
teague doesnt even look to take a jumper…we need nash asap
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:50 pm
and we’re giving zaza 5 million to do this? 5 million? really?
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:50 pm
lmaoooo@O’brien
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:50 pm
Two big misses at the line for Damien.
And on the rebound, Zaza tries to reach over the shoulder of a guy who already got the rebound and then falls to the ground. Seriously, the guy has the motor skills of a three year old.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
8:52 pm
I thought the motion offense was supposed to cure these offensive droughts?
Hawks had 15 points in the third quarter. And we are losing to a team thats 8-10 at home.
Come on Hawks. Don’t build us up…just to let us down. Show us a strong 4th quarter, and win this game.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:53 pm
lmao yall are funny one here
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:53 pm
Raptors shooting 55% FG. Needless to say, we can’t let them shoot that well in the 4th. The only reason we’re close, is because of Jamal and FT shooting.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
8:53 pm
What an awful quarter.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:54 pm
here are the dead weights of this team. zaza, josh powell mo evans, marvin williams. giving them more than a million dollars? smh head rick sund. what core are u talking about? thatz about 16 million dollars. go after steve nash and whats left u spend on some acctuall descent players who are making like 500 k. smh….
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:55 pm
Jamal . . when you’re this hot, keep shooting the ball. Don’t be passing it to Mo.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:55 pm
Raptors’ zone is confusing the hell out of the Hawks.
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:55 pm
omg bench wilkings bring in the starters
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:56 pm
almost a 4 point play..
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:56 pm
LOL @ this dude, and his ability to get fouled on 3’s
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:57 pm
put jordan in, i like his shooting ability
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
8:57 pm
jason,
Actually, we are paying ZaZa $4.5 mil to do that.
northcyde,
Co-sign. I said the same thing about Josh taking so many shots. he is cold, and Jamal is hot. Feed Jamal everytime down. I would like to see him go for 50.
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:57 pm
Jason . . Marvin is nowhere near a dead weight, compared to those guys.
jason
January 12th, 2011
8:58 pm
why is zaza still in?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:58 pm
Zaza has allowed his man to take a wide open shot three times in this quarter. Lucky for him only one of those shots were made.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
8:58 pm
What… the hell… is up with the Hawks and technical free throws?
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:58 pm
another miss tech
J.J.M
January 12th, 2011
8:59 pm
game over
northcyde
January 12th, 2011
8:59 pm
O’Brien . . and you KNOW that Jamal isn’t my favorite Hawk. But I’m not stupid either. Get that dude some more shots.
Bad force by Horford right there.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:00 pm
Hawks look lost offensively.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:00 pm
Could there be 2 bigger homers than ‘Nique and Bob?
They said good minutes from ZaZa, because he had 6 rebounds in 16 minutes. What about his 3 fouls, 1 point, and 1 turnover?
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:00 pm
paying marvin 7 million to score like 5 a night is a dead weight. and wasnt it mike woodson who wanted the hawks front office to sign zaza and marvin? idk i still think after we fired woody he is still back to haunt us!
hawkfan
January 12th, 2011
9:00 pm
wats up with all these turnovers, we are making barbosa look like steve nash here, i will get him in a heartbeat right now and give them marvin
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:01 pm
What an awful quarter and a half.
Blast
January 12th, 2011
9:01 pm
Hawks are killing themselves in this game. All these turnovers, bad shots, not moving the ball, resulting in more bad shots against the clock….
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:02 pm
how can u be losing against the raptors. no offense but they’re not good.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:03 pm
I think one downside of Jamal’s first half explosion is that the Hawks have stopped going inside since then. Their offense has been way too perimeter oriented in this half, and the result has not been good.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:03 pm
Jamal continues to lick his fingers game after game, basketball after basketball. How come he doesnt get sick or come down with a virus?
Look for the Hawks to get jump shot happy. They better start making them…
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:03 pm
yes al scored…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:04 pm
That was only Horford’s sixth shot attempt of the game. Five Hawks have at least that many.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:04 pm
noooooo and one for barbosa
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:04 pm
Barbosa has been every bit as good for the Raptors as Jamal has for the Hawks.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:04 pm
jamal shut up!! got a T
Blast
January 12th, 2011
9:05 pm
Hope that T riles up Jamal. Hawks gotta play smart.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:06 pm
Every time they say “hand in the cookie jar”, it reminds me of this…
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:07 pm
“I don’t know where you get your cookies from…”
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:07 pm
is it me or do you guys think that bob rathbun getz hyper alot? i bet u he spits in nique’s face lol.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:07 pm
How’s THAT for shot selection!
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
9:08 pm
Come on that was easy play smart guys, here we go.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:08 pm
Good to see Al go over and talk to Jamal after he got the T. Leadership on display.
Jason,
Marvin averages 11 ppg.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:08 pm
ughh rick sund. i bet u bobby cox would make a better gm lol
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:09 pm
k well it doesnt seem like he gets that.
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:09 pm
O’B,
It’s like inoculations. lol
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:10 pm
barbosa specializes in the paint. wheres the defense josh?
Sleepy
January 12th, 2011
9:11 pm
cmon everyone in the league but the hawks knows that Barbosa has NO LEFT HAND
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:11 pm
omg he does it again
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:11 pm
hell yes joe with a three
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:12 pm
yea*
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:12 pm
I don’t understand why if you are Al Horford and you have a mismatch on Barbosa, you wouldn’t just make him go to his off hand. Sure, he’s likely to beat you off the dribble one way or another, but at least make it tougher on him. I’m not picking on Al necessarily — a lot of players make this mistake. Is it that hard to shade a guy to one side and make him go the other way?
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:13 pm
josh stop takin threes!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:13 pm
Bibby passes up a 3 to swing it to Smoove for a 3, which he bricks.
Whatever we fans may think, it doesn’t appear the Hawks lack confidence in Smoove’s jumper at this point.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:13 pm
Their starting Center (Bargnani) has 2 rebounds. Wow.
I like how they get the ball to Barbosa everytime down though.
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
9:13 pm
JOSH SWING THE GOD DAM BALL JOE WOULDVE BEEN WIDE OPEN COME ON!!
Benjamin
January 12th, 2011
9:14 pm
I really want to slap Josh in the face right now. Stop taking threes!
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:14 pm
Najeh,
Good point. As Sleepy said, the whole league knows.
Benjamin
January 12th, 2011
9:15 pm
Can Al get more than 6 field goal attempts in this game? Seriously, what the hell is wrong with this team? Al couldn’t be more underutilized on the offensive end if he tried.
Blast
January 12th, 2011
9:15 pm
Hawks can still win this game. But they have to play smart. And they have to find Jamal.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:16 pm
Hawks are actually over-passing right now. Someone has to take a shot in rhythm.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:16 pm
drive into the paint! stop takin jumpers
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:17 pm
Holy sh-t Jamal
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:17 pm
lol!
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:17 pm
j-j-jamal crawford for 3!!!!
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:17 pm
That was a sick shot by Jamal
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:17 pm
Wow. If Jamal missed that shot, the game would have been over.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:18 pm
andrea is just ill!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:18 pm
Jamal’s long bomb on that play masked the fact that Bibby again passed up an open shot to swing it around and drain the clock. He’s done that four or five times in this quarter.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:18 pm
yes 3 free throw attempts
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
This is turning into an exciting game. The Toronto fans are going wild
Ron
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
Jamal’s ability to get fouled on three point attempts is truly amazing. It’s really unbelievable.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
pick and roll to death.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
amir and one but hes not a good free throw shooter
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
Hawks just can’t get a stop against this mediocre azz team.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:19 pm
JJ needs to take lessons from Jamal, because Dude is a master of getting fouled on these 3’s.
Win or lose, Jamal is the player of the game (although Barbosa gave him a run for the money).
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:20 pm
damn it he nails it
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:21 pm
drive into the paint and i think they can win
Rod from College Park
January 12th, 2011
9:21 pm
Al is having a terrible night defensively. He can’t check anybody tonight.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:22 pm
there is no art on getting fouled on 3’s.. his release is what it is..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:22 pm
Nique can’t decide if Amir Johnson’s name is DerMeer or Jameer.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:22 pm
yes illegal screen
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
Wow. Toronto is a horrible team. A moving screen when your team is up 2, with the game almost over lol.
Which is why if the Hawks lose this game, it will be very disappointing
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
lol..
Rod from College Park
January 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
Nique- Jameer Johnson. LOL
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
lol @najeh
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:23 pm
“Al is having a terrible night defensively. He can’t check anybody tonight.”
Part of it is because he’s had to float around on the perimeter and check Bargnani all game, and part of it is because the perimeter D can’t keep Calderon and Barbosa out of the lane on pick and rolls. But yeah, he has struggled.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
shiiiiii..
go to the backdoor.. they collapse on Joe.. open 3..
they probably go to the Joe.. Jamal pick and roll..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
BOOM BIBBY
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
Bibby
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
Bibster.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
mike for 3!!!!!!!1
LionHearted
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
BIBBY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
I hope they didn’t score too early though…
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:24 pm
hardly touched net.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Thanks Amir.
Hawks just need to defend this possession. And we win. And try not to foul…
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Great shot by Bibby… now take him out for the final defensive possession…
Rod from College Park
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Teague would never make that shot.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
take Bibby out
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Damien better be in the game for this defensive sequence.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
9:25 pm
Amazing shot by Bibby, but there’s a lot of time left for the raptors to get a nice final shot in. Hawks desperately need to play strong defense on this last possession.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:26 pm
cmon play defense gaurd the paint!
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:26 pm
I would send 2 to Barbosa
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
9:26 pm
The most important stop of the game
LETS DO IT!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
That was GREAT D by Al. Keep whining Raptors fans, but that was not a foul.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
hawks ball!!
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
Should be Hawks ball. it hit Calderon on the way out after hitting Al
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
Horford might have been out when it hit him..
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
Al may have had a bad night defensively but he just made the defensive play of the night
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
OUR BALL
LETS GO!!!!!!!!!!
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:27 pm
Hawks may have just stole this game
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
Al was in.. Hawk ball
Rod from College Park
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
Al redeems himself defensively. Still cant understand why he keeps ending up checking point guards. His lateral movement is not that good.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
hawks ball!!!!
LionHearted
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
yesssssssss
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
Nique said it hit Bargnai when he was still in-bounds lol. It’s Calderon ‘Nique.
Hawks did not play well, but we’ll take the victory.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:28 pm
if Nique calls him Amir.. maybe there’s a different result.
thanks Nique.
LionHearted
January 12th, 2011
9:29 pm
Thank god Josh or Joe didn’t take the last shot. They woulda choked as usual.
terrell
January 12th, 2011
9:29 pm
“Jameer Johnson”. Poor ole Nique.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:29 pm
put in jamals hands hes a good free throw shooter
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:29 pm
Drew should have saved that timeout to give insurance against the 5-count on the inbound
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:29 pm
Horford blocks a shot with his armpit. I’ve never seen THAT before.
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:30 pm
all up to joe
Alfred
January 12th, 2011
9:30 pm
That wasn’t an illegal screen on “Jameer Johnson” (LOL) but I’ll take it
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:31 pm
we cant lose now if they hit a 3 it will go in OT nice play by al. that was the play of the game
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:31 pm
“Still cant understand why he keeps ending up checking point guards.”
Too much switching on the pick and rolls in this half. Hawks don’t have anyone who can check opposing PGs who can get in the lane.
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:31 pm
wow.. gutsy road win that we tried to lose..
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
9:31 pm
Take the win and get the hell out of Canada..
jason
January 12th, 2011
9:31 pm
hawks win!!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:32 pm
That was a little too close.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:32 pm
I forgot PJ Carlisemo (sp) was still in the league.
Hawks, we still need more consistent play. but we’ll take the win.
Blast
January 12th, 2011
9:32 pm
Tough road win, but a good one!
bigdave
January 12th, 2011
9:32 pm
monster games from Joe and Jamal
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:33 pm
No matter the quality of the opposition, road wins are like GOLD!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:33 pm
“I forgot PJ Carlisemo (sp) was still in the league.”
Me too. Didn’t realize he was on Toronto’s staff. I guess now we know why they choked.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
9:33 pm
Let’s get the hell out of Toronto…
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:37 pm
“Jameer Johnson”. Poor ole Nique.
At least he didn’t call them “the Rapners” tonight (unlike the earlier game against them).
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
9:40 pm
Hawks are tied with Chicago in the east since they lost tonight. If Orlando loses, and they are behind in the third quarter, there will be a three-way tie for third in the east.
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
9:41 pm
Didn’t see the game. From the look of the box score, Jamal played great, Joe played good, Al played sufficient (yet passive), Josh and Bibby sucked, and played like their games were left snowed in back in Atlanta. Great to see the team get a win. Also, if Wilkins stop being so passive on the offensive end, and choose to attack, he will be way better of an option than Mo in the playoffs.
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
9:42 pm
O’Brien, am I the only one who thinks AI2 is very similar to Sprewell? lol
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:43 pm
“I forgot PJ Carlisemo (sp) was still in the league.”
Me too. Didn’t realize he was on Toronto’s staff. I guess now we know why they choked. Najeh .
That’s funny lol.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:43 pm
51 shots from Joe, Jamal, and Bibby… 29 shots from everyone else.
Hawks need more offensive balance than that. They let the Raptors get back in the game by going away from their inside game.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:44 pm
I’ve been on the trade Jamal bandwagon, but when he plays like this, wow. It makes it almost impossible to trade him.
LD calls him “a coach’s dream”. If Jamal continues to play like this, and potentially wins SMOY again, can the Hawks afford to let him walk (especially if he plays well in the playoffs)?
Sautee
January 12th, 2011
9:45 pm
Kudos to LD for having his best defensive lineup in at the end.
We now have the same record as last year after 40 games. Considering how many games have been missed for injuries, not at all bad.
Jae Evolution
January 12th, 2011
9:54 pm
@ Sautee
Was our road record positive at this point last season, if you know?
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:55 pm
Sautee,
We’ve also had more back to back games this season (if I’m not mistaken).
Marvin is on SS again. I think “it was not a bad pick” called in and requested it
@ Ramon,
I’m not a fan of Mo Evans, but he has been knocking down a few shots of late. And I think JJ at SF, Mo Evans at SG, and Jamal at PG might be one of LD’s lineups at times.
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
9:57 pm
O’Brien, I think if Jamal plays like this, it makes it more important to move Bibby during the off season. You can’t go forward having that much money in the back court, when Joe is the only one who can defend. Do you think Jamal would be willing to take a pay cut, similar to 3 years for $23 mil, with a team option for a 4th.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
9:57 pm
OB,
I think its time to abandon the trade Jamal bandwagon. He provides too much offensively for this team. We may need to look at other options to upgrade this team…
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
9:57 pm
Sound Bite!
Josh’s sound bite has been played so much, I am hearing it in my sleep.
________________
It really irks me when Josh said this:
“How really far can we go?”
Uugghh! I only wish he said:
How far can we really go?
_______________________
ECF?
Championship Game 7?
Why not us?
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
9:59 pm
Ramon,
Agree with your 9:57 post…
Hoops
January 12th, 2011
10:03 pm
Good road win by the Hawks!
I read a rumor that says the Hawks are interested in trading for Steve Nash. Does anyone have any insight on this rumor?
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
10:04 pm
Does Marvin gets injured intentionally? Does his agent know the Hawks want to trade him, so every season after playing consistently for more than 6 games, he advices him to get injured? The smart GMs know never to trade for a player who’s on the trainer’s table more than he’s on the court. Are GMs really going to want to take a risk on Marvin after his documented problems with his back? I can’t recall a single player who’s had so many issues with their back, and came back to not be effected by their backs throughout their careers. More and more it seems like we’re stuck with Marvin for another 2 seasons minimum.
Joe Black
January 12th, 2011
10:07 pm
The Hawks played pretty badly in this game. Josh took a ton of awful shots and once again took way more shots than he should have taken. Joe was so-so, but did a bit too much ball hogging when things got tight. Thank goodness for those big rebounds by our bigs near the end on the awful shots by Jamal and Joe. Those final plays by Bibby and Al were really huge. I’m glad things went the Hawks way in the end.
Now, with that being said, I was severely disappointed by the way the Hawks played tonight. I’m completely blown away and disgusted by the fact that Al only had 7 field goal attempts for the game. He was open several times and was calling for the ball in the post, meanwhile his teammates continuously went away from him. This is getting to be purely disrespectful. Al deserves a much larger role in the offense. He’s already proven that he can carry a larger offensive load, and he shouldn’t be treated like the team janitor. He had a very good all-around game tonight, but was not rewarded with field goal attempts at all. I’m sick of watching Al get treated like some rookie roleplayer or like he’s Marcus Camby and is incapable of scoring and only out there for defense and rebounding. This guy is an integral part of the team, and I firmly believe that the Hawks would be far worse without him on the roster. Either start using him effectively and give the man some respect, or trade him to a team that will appreciate him. There are tons of other teams out there that would love to have him.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
10:08 pm
A Nail in the Coffin!
Charles Barkley would have said: A nail in the coffee … Would that be a Rusty Nail? (an alcoholic beverage).
_____________________
Ramon surmised:
“Josh and Bibby sucked, and played like their games were left snowed in back in Atlanta. ”
___________________________
Ugh Ramon dear, Bibby put the nail in the coffin tonight. He signed sealed and delivered this game to the win column. He fired the shot that was heard around the world. His three point shot was a walk off home run!
Don’t get it twisted little man. Bibby made an IMPACT play that determined the outcome of the game!
Since you didn’t see the game? Just sit back and listen, learn.
__________________________
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
10:18 pm
Passing Through!
Ramon, Josh made some terrific and unbelievable passes to help his team win. His shot was not falling, but he made a big three and played terrific all around, he encouraged his team mates and was very supportive to them.
Now you know!
We used to find ways to lose these games and now we are winning them. Drew is teaching this team how to win in a variety of ways! We should NEVER apologize for a win, road or a home. A one point win counts the same as a 30 point win. You didn’t see the Celtics apologizing when the beat the Knicks by one point on the road. Paul Pierce did a victory lap around MSG like Jeff George did in the Georgia Dome when his team came back to Atlanta and won a game that he didn’t even play one snap in.
Let’s Go Hawks! Beat ‘Em All! The Good, The Bad and The Ugly!
I wouldn’t be mad if The Hawks beat a Grandmother right now.
(some Grannys are really mean.). Just kidding.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
10:22 pm
Ramon, Melvin,
With Jamal playing this well, I dont think the Hawks can trade him now. And I dont know if he will give them a hometown discount at the end of the season. He asked them for a contract, and they refused, so he said he will not give them a deal.
Over the offseason, if they want to resign Jamal, they may have to trade Josh Smith for a legit starting center. Their lineup would be New Center/Al/Marvin/JJ/Bibby.
I dont think trading Bibby will bring us much in return, because the bad teams will want to play their young guy to bring them along, and the good teams will not start Bibby (he will probably come off the bench for them).
Would the Mavericks dare let Chandler go? i think he would be the kind of starting center we need.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:23 pm
I have some more good news. The Magic look like they may lose tonight, which would drop their record to 25-13. That would put them in a virtual tie with Atlanta’s 26-14 record for second in the southeast division. They are down by 2 right now to the Hornets in New Orleans with 43 seconds left and the Hornets have possession of the ball.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:25 pm
Oh, and on top of a potential Magic loss, the Bulls lost to Charlotte. Hooray! I’m sick of hearing about the Bulls.
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
10:28 pm
Keeping Jamal is next to impossible because of the cap. We have 64+ mill. committed next season to 9 players. We would have to trade Marvin for an expiring contract like Nocini from the Sixers to afford him. Or Bibby, but Bibby only has 1 season left on his contract, so the savings just wouldn’t be there.
But Crawford is looking awfully indispensible right now. On fire! SMOY is now his for the taking, over Jason Terry.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
10:28 pm
Ron,
Paul missed a FT that would have put the Hornets up by 4. Next play down Turk ties the game with a 3pt shot… Overtime…
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
10:29 pm
I’m not disagreeing with those who say Horford should have taken more shots than some others BUT Horford was OFF TONIGHT!! He wasn’t even looking for his 15-20ft-er tonight. AL is SUCH a professional though that he realized that he was OFF and NEVER forced anything, nor complained..he just continued to look for Jamal and set screens for him for open shots. Im not worried about AL, as long as he does the other little things in the game, I’M CONTENT!!
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:30 pm
Melvin,
Yeah, that’s disappointing. But, there’s still a chance that the Hornets can come out with a victory in that game. Hopefully, they can keep it together during the OT.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
10:30 pm
“Charles Barkley would have said: A nail in the coffee”
Nique would have said “a dagger in the coffin”.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:32 pm
MsDee,
How exactly was Horford “off” tonight? He was 5-7 from the field and hit the mid-range shot that he took. He only had 1 miss that even looked off. The first miss rimmed out. He didn’t seem to be looking for the 15-20 footer much, but I don’t think it had anything to do with him being off. He was very efficient shooting the ball. I think him taking fewer shots had to do with the offense that the Hawks were running and the zone defense that Toronto was using.
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
10:33 pm
The Nets and Nuggets are looking for takers for Devin Harris in the ‘Melo trade that may go down. He’s got about 2.5 years left, at 9 mill. per. Bibby and Mo’ and a couple of 2nd picks may be enough to get us into this trade if the Nuggets would take Bibby to play behind Ty Lawson. Harris’ 3rd year may be a deal breaker for ASG however.
Ugly win tonite BTW, but the line was only Hawks by 4.
Rev in Tampa
January 12th, 2011
10:33 pm
Ron, sorry to disappoint regarding Magic. They hit several 3’s in a row and hornets missed their free throws so the Magic tied it with a three with 6 seconds. They are now in overtime. At least the Magic are on the road.
In overtime the Hornets cant throw the ball in the ocean. Magic up by 1.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
10:36 pm
The “trade Jamal” bandwagon has NEVER been about him or his quality of play. It has always been about what he’s worth vs. the Hawks’ cap situation. It never would have come to this if Marvin, Bibby, and Zaza weren’t signed to contracts that pay them double what they are worth. If the Hawks could trade some combination of those three for more productive, properly paid players, I’d much rather see that happen and see Jamal get extended. If that can’t happen, the chances of the Hawks extending Jamal – after drafting Jordan to take over his spot — seem pretty slim. If Jamal is not going to get extended, the Hawks may as well cash in his expiring contract to improve other areas of the team.
If I’m wrong and the DASG is planning to extend Jamal, obviously things change. In that case, the Hawks should try to dump Jordan and some combination of those three for a point guard upgrade or a perimeter defender.
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
10:37 pm
@Ron,
AL may have been 5-7 from the field but we ALL know that Horford’s bread and butter is his 15fter which he didnt even look toward since he was being guarded tight. My point of the matter IS he never forces anything even when the ball comes to him ever now and then. Horford is a TRUE professional and I love that in him!!
Brandon
January 12th, 2011
10:37 pm
“Nique would have said ‘a dagger in the coffin’.” – Najeh
LOL, I love that quote by ‘Nique. It’s especially funny when you think about who in the world stick a dagger in a coffin. Obviously, ‘Nique is confused between saying that a shot is a “dagger” and a shot putting the “nail in the coffin”.
At any rate, ‘Nique is hilarious. I love his crazy quotes. Nimbers, Hibbits (Hibbert), Mah-ha-bootay (Mbah a Moute), etc. Classic stuff. ‘Nique is a big part of the entertainment during the games.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
10:38 pm
Rev,
Thronton just made a big shot for the Hornets to take a 1pt lead with 30seconds remaining.
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
10:39 pm
Drmaryb, I stated “From the look of the box score, Jamal played great, Joe played good, Al played sufficient (yet passive), Josh and Bibby sucked, and played like their games were left snowed in back in Atlanta.” I clearly stated looking at the game statistics, that is how it seems the individuals played. Bibby went 2 for 6 from beyond the arc (2-8 overall). One PLAY never is the reason for the result of the game. If Bibby was 1 for 1 in the last minute of the game, that still doesn’t change the fact that if he (or Josh) would’ve had a better shooting night, they wouldn’t have been in the position for it to be so close late in the game, possibly. I also said it was ‘great to see the team get the win’. I know just as well as anyone that Atlanta would’ve lost this kind of game before.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:41 pm
MsDee,
I definitely agree that Al is a professional. He’s one of the most mature players I have ever watched, and is definitely a coach’s dream. Not many players would be content doing all the dirty work and sometimes getting overlooked on the offensive end, despite having a lot of offensive skill, yet Horford never seems to complain or be bothered by that. I’m very impressed by that.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
10:42 pm
LOL…. Howard missed both his freethrows with 9 seconds left. Magic still down by 1pt..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
10:43 pm
Dwight just missed two free throws which would have given the Magic a lead with ten seconds left. Hornets have the ball with a one point lead. A Magic loss ties the Hawks for third place in the East.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:43 pm
Wow, this Magic-Hornets game is really coming down to the wire. Neither team has been able to pull away. The Hornets really need to put the “dagger in the coffin”.
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
10:44 pm
O’Brien – The Mavs are shopping Haywood, not Chandler. Chandler is being called the best C that Dirk has played beside in 13 seasons in the League. Dirk credits him with the Mavs great play this year. I don’t think he’s going anywhere anytime soon.
Now in this Melo trade that may go down, we could resign Jamal and get Harris if these teams would let us give somebody Marvin, Mo’, and Bibby. Maybe have Detroit throw in TMac, a vet minimum guy, and then sign Jerry Stackhouse, Rodney Carney, or Jarvis Hayes for that last spot.
Could TMac and Stackhouse/Hayes/Carney take Mo’ and Marvin’s place and do equally well I think is the question? We would also still have Wilkens at the 2/3 also.
ant banks
January 12th, 2011
10:45 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
9:33 pm
“I forgot PJ Carlisemo (sp) was still in the league.”
Me too. Didn’t realize he was on Toronto’s staff. I guess now we know why they choked.
omg!! lol
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
10:46 pm
Joe said it!
Ms. Dee!
Excellent analysis of Horford’s terrific game tonight. He made the defensive play of the game! Joe said in one of his rare interviews last week, that, in this motion offense everyone has a chance to shine and be the game’s MVP. Joe said, teams can’t just focus on stopping one player to win and that the Hawks are a 5 man attack team now. (paraphrased by me)
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
10:46 pm
O’Brien, I’m still not seeing an impact center who puts this team over the hump that is worth giving Josh up for. D12 is the only center in the league that I would trade Josh for. I’m a firm believer in the Hawks should attempt to get a hard nose journeyman center (Joel P) with the mid level before truly giving up one of their three best players. I actually believe the Hawks need a starting PG more than they need a starting center. If you choose to bring Jamal back, you have Joe, Al, Josh, and Jamal, and the one thing you’re still missing is the facilitator who can also put pressure on the opposing PG on the other end of the court. I would even consider a sign and trade deal for A. Brooks (I think he will end up being the ‘Felton’ of this free agent class).
Also Jamal has to understand his salary will drop some percentage just because of the new CBA that will be in place.
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:46 pm
By the way, a loss for the Magic would mean a three-way tie for 3rd in the East between the Bulls, Hawks, and Magic. However, that means a lot more to the Hawks and Magic than the Bulls, since the Bulls are basically guaranteed homecourt advantage in the playoffs, regardless of what their record is, due to their extremely weak division.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
10:47 pm
Hornets win 92-89. Hawks are tied for third.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
10:47 pm
Magic lose… Hawks pickup a game tonight on the Magic and Bulls… Now can the Heat lose to the Clippers
ATL FAN
January 12th, 2011
10:47 pm
J J J JOEEEE JOHNSONN!!!!!
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:48 pm
It’s official, Hornets defeat Magic.
ant banks
January 12th, 2011
10:48 pm
i think that we can beat chicago in a 7 game series, even if they have the home court advantage, but i don’t see us gettin’ outta the 2nd round with this roster. even if we get nash. i don’t see us beatin’ miami, orlando or boston in a 7 game series in the 2nd rd
Ramon
January 12th, 2011
10:51 pm
Ant, if Jamal and Joe play like this, I can see the Hawks beating Orlando or Miami in 6 games. Atlanta has nothing to lose in either of those series, if they win one of the first two games (which isn’t impossible) the pressure goes to Lebron (Miami) or D12/Van Gundy (Orlando). And I can’t help but not see more than a Shareef A. Rahim when I look at Bosh (not impressed).
Najeh Davenpoop
January 12th, 2011
10:52 pm
“even if we get nash. i don’t see us beatin’ miami, orlando or boston in a 7 game series in the 2nd rd”
Maybe, maybe not, but I think the Hawks would have a realistic chance of beating those teams with Nash. Without Nash, I don’t think they do. At the very least I think this Hawks team plus Nash is better than the Suns team that Nash took to the Western Conference finals last year.
ant banks
January 12th, 2011
10:53 pm
jj is goin’ to end up costin’ atlanta 200 million in the long run!! belkin was right, we coulda got jj without givin’ up 2 1st round picks, which led to the 5 yr suit that cost millions, plus the 124million/6yr contract…jj will owe the hawks his 1st born. lol.
ant banks
January 12th, 2011
10:54 pm
lol @ melvin…he on that “good-good” lol
Ron
January 12th, 2011
10:54 pm
“…At the very least I think this Hawks team plus Nash is better than the Suns team that Nash took to the Western Conference finals last year.”
I strongly agree with this.
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
10:56 pm
Najeh – The report on ESPN is that the Nets and Nuggets are shopping Devin Harris to try and get this trade to go down. I suggest Bibby, Mo’, and Marvin to make the cap numbers work, and get Devin Harris, TMac and maybe one of the Nets 5 first round picks they have combined for the next 2 drafts.
Bibby would be a great backup for Ty Lawson in Denver, and he’s kinda like Billups. Marvin and Mo’ would be salary dumps to afford Devin’ contract at about 9 mill per thru 2013. And then to re-sign Jamal.
We could actually give Jamal our mid-level for 3 seasons in the above trade, and be at about 66 mil for next season for 9 players, and fill out the roster with vet minimum guys.
But probably not gonna happen….
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
10:59 pm
When Baron Davis wants to play, he’s unstoppable….
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
10:59 pm
Melvin – the Heat probably won’t lose to the Clippers. But Blake Griffin may hurt Bosh. That guy is a beast. I can really see him being a 40 – 20 guy in a couple of years. With hard work, the sky’s the limit with him.
Damien
January 12th, 2011
11:00 pm
These were the most shocking stats of tonight’s game:
Joe, Jamal, and Josh – 58 field goal attempts (combined), Al Horford – 7 field goal attempts
Shooting Percentages: Joe, Jamal, and Josh – 43% (combined), Al Horford – 71%
Enough said…
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
11:01 pm
SteveW,
I would really like Devin Harris in a Hawks uniform…
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
11:03 pm
Damon,
Hawks got the win and halfway back to Atlanta by now. Forget about the stats… As Sautee would say, road wins are like Gold…
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
11:05 pm
SteveW,
The Clippers are playing on a Heat High in front that sold out crowd. I won’t be surprise if they beat the Heat…
ATL FAN
January 12th, 2011
11:05 pm
Damien, if you take out Josh’s numbers it doesn’t look as bad. I’d very much want Joe and Jamal to take that many shots per game if they could score over 50% of them, as they did this game
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
11:10 pm
My goodness, Clippers scored 44pts in the 1st qtr…
Ron
January 12th, 2011
11:11 pm
The Heat just gave up 44 points in the first quarter to the Clippers. Wow.
Ken Strickland
January 12th, 2011
11:11 pm
Is there anyone that still thinks this yrs version of last yrs team isn’t a better team? With far more to deal with and overcome, we’ve matched last yrs win total at this point in the season.
Why do we make an issue of Teague’s mistakes, like the one he made tonight that led to one fastbreak basket? Yet totally ignore the one’s Bibby makes, like the 3 he made that led to 3 fastbreak baskets?
SteveW
January 12th, 2011
11:12 pm
Melvin – The Heat’s 2 weaknesses are at PG and inside. If Baron and Griffin play hard for 4 quarters, and they have some athletes to throw at DWade and LeBron, you may be right. I sure hope so. I like when the Heat lose. I root against them.
Melvin
January 12th, 2011
11:16 pm
SteveW,
I hope the Heat lose as well…
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
11:21 pm
MANN, if the Heat lose as bad as the Cavs lost to the Lakers, I SURE HOPE ONE OF THE CAVS WRITE LEBRON RIGHT BACK ON TWITTER HOW ‘GOD DONT LIKE UGLY EITHER!!’
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:24 pm
Najeh! “Dagger in the coffin!” ROF & LOL
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Ramon
I replied to YOUR words not mine! You love back peddling don’t you?
You can’t just dismiss what you said, when convenient.
ONE PLAY certainly can determine a Game! R U Kidding Me?
When a game is tied and there is 2 seconds left? Every play before that moment becomes: irrelevant, negligible, impertinent, unimportant!
ONE PLAY that determines the outcome of games is what:
The Greatest Moments in Sports History is made of – Man!
A walk off home run!
A Grand Slam in the 9th when down by 3!
A 50 yard field goal in OT in Football with 1 second left!
Getting stopped 1″ from the Pylon on the last play in a Super Bowl!
(see Steve McNair’s RIP Titans)
A buzzer beater by Joe and Jamal last year!
A slam dunk by Josh to finally beat the Magic @ Phillips Arena last year!
As a matter of fact, Cable channels are created and run 24/7 to share Classic Football (NFL Network – Greatest Plays Ever), Basketball (NBA TV – Hardwood Classics).
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Ramon, I love you like a Brother, but some of the ISH that rolls out of ypur mouth sometimes is appalling and unbelievable. If I didn’t see it with my own eyes, I really wouldn’t believe it.
Han
January 12th, 2011
11:24 pm
I’m curious, where are you guys reading about a potential trade between the Suns and Hawks involving Steve Nash? That would be great if those rumors were true, but I, personally, haven’t heard anything about that. Where are you guys reading these rumors?
Val
January 12th, 2011
11:27 pm
Is there a bigger egomaniac in the pro basketball world today than Lebron James? Lebron James is the runaway winner of that award in my opinion.
ATL FAN
January 12th, 2011
11:48 pm
Its all fan speculation Han, no truth to the rumors as we know it
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:53 pm
“I would really like Devin Harris in a Hawks uniform…”
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How about any uniform at all?
Devin Harris is to PG’s, what Greg Oden is to Centers.
Eternally injured. He is about as dependable as:
A missing Father.
A Ford Escort.
A 3XL Condom.
A sure bet in Vegas.
Mike Vick in a Falcons Uniform on “Fight-Night”.
Aye Melvin baby, do you see where this convo is going?
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ROF & LOL
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Seriously, Devin Harris and Shaun Livingston are the same player, isn’t Devin owed 9M per for 3 years to total 27M? I’ll pass on that one.
Give me Nash? And, I will stop trippin’.
Hoops
January 13th, 2011
12:34 am
The Suns are probably getting ready to free up some cap space. The Hawks should pursue this trade:
Suns get-Jamal Crawford, Teague, and Mo Evans (all have expiring contracts that would free up 14.7M)
Hawks get-Nash and Dudley
When you first look @ this trade, you might say why would the Suns do this? They free up 14.7M to go after Chris Paul.