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Atlanta Hawks at Raptors: No Canada

5:50 pm January 12, 2011, by Michael Cunningham

Long and boring story short: I didn’t make it to Toronto. Neither did Etan, who apparently couldn’t get out of his ‘hood. Marvin’s sore back didn’t allow didn’t make the trip, either.

I plan to watch the game on TV and then post some analysis here. Until then, here is some Hawks-related linkage:

  • (Via TrueHoop.com): Hoopism put together a cool graphical representation of the NBA teams by average age. Rick Sund always says the Hawks are still a young team in relation to the other top teams in the East, and this chart backs him up on that: The Hawks are the fourth-oldest team among the East’s top five, slightly older than the Bulls. Hoopism also weighted age by minutes played and the Hawks rank fourth among the East’s top five by that measure as well.
  • You might recall ESPN’s John Hollinger was among the chief critics of the Hawks(Insider) following their surrender against Boston at Philips. Two months later, he’s got the Hawks No. 6 in his power rankings and includes the Hawks among six “good” teams flying under the radar (Insider).

    • Hollinger cautions: “‘good’ here is relative — none of these teams is going to win the championship, and it’s likely that none will even host a first-round playoff series. Nonetheless, there’s an interesting story brewing with several clubs that have been well off the league’s radar since early in the season, and it’s high time we revisited them” Says Hollinger:

    “Especially noticeable is that there’s far better ball movement than in the “iso-Joe” offense under Mike Woodson. But perhaps more important is that the Hawks’ formerly shambolic transition D has significantly improved now that they’re not sending the entire team to the offensive glass. . . . This team remains flawed — it’s basically four good players and a whole lot of filler — but has coped with injuries surprisingly well. . . . As a result, the Hawks are on the upswing.”

  • Jason Walker at Peachtree Hoops wishes ‘Nique happy b-day. Inspired by Nick Young going off for 45 points, Walker also looks back at the Hawks’ last 40point game and discovers that J.J. has the last six. Writes Walker:

    • “Makes sense since: A) He was the only capable scorer for many of the past 7 seasons. B) One must gobble up possessions to achieve such heights, usually, and Johnson was/is the alpha dog in terms of possession usage, so it would be difficult for another player to sneak in there unless Joe was injured and that player took his possessions.”

  • Bret Lagree at Hoopinion scouted Pape Sy’s games at the D-League Showcase and came up with these ugly numbers: “Unofficial on/off numbers, assuming Utah haven’t played much faster or slower with Sy on the court and that he’s played an equal number of offensive and defensive possessions: Utah are -10 points per 100 possessions with Sy on the floor, -0.6 points per 100 possessions with Sy off the floor over the last six games.”
  • Jonathan Givony of Draft Express has already seen enough of Sy to declare that the Hawks wasted a pick, roster spot and $600 k on him: “If Pape Sy wasn’t drafted by the Hawks and making 500k this year, you’d wonder if he’s good enough to play at the D-League level. . . . . Its moves like this (drafting Pape Sy) that make you wonder about the decisions that get made by certain NBA front offices, like the Hawks.”

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    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    7:57 pm

    where are the blocks from josh???

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:01 pm

    wtf is going on

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:02 pm

    Can Jamal go for 50 tonight? I sure would love to see that!

    Sautee

    January 12th, 2011
    8:03 pm

    We played decent D for the first 10 minutes of the game.

    Since then………not so much.

    Ron

    January 12th, 2011
    8:04 pm

    Al should really be in the game right now. It’s dangerously close at this point, and Al was playing great. Also, Al was doing a very good job defending Bargnani as well, and now “Il Mago” is starting to go off a bit. That second foul on Al was total BS as well. He didn’t even touch the man on that one. At any rate, I hope the Hawks can maintain their lead through halftime.

    Larry Drew has definitely been improving as a coach, but he still has a few annoying habits that need to go. Hopefully, the 2 foul rule or the “Horford Treatment”, as some people like to call it, will be abandoned permanently in the future.

    Najeh Davenpoop

    January 12th, 2011
    8:04 pm

    Not one of Smoove’s better games.

    {MAC-Town Georgia 478}

    January 12th, 2011
    8:06 pm

    Amir Johnson has no respect for Zaza

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:06 pm

    wow…the shots the raptors are making

    {MAC-Town Georgia 478}

    January 12th, 2011
    8:06 pm

    50 pt game?

    Najeh Davenpoop

    January 12th, 2011
    8:07 pm

    I’m pretty sure that if Jamal goes for 50 in this game, he will become the only player in NBA history to have scored 50 with 4 different teams.

    Sautee

    January 12th, 2011
    8:07 pm

    Excellent rotation by Zaza. Best thing I’ve seen from him lately.

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:07 pm

    why is jamal not shooting come on joe dont steal his shine

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:09 pm

    The ASG needs to pay LD some more money so he can get some better suits.

    Hawks needs to clamp up on the Raptors in the 2nd half. So far, Hawks playing loose defence.

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:09 pm

    wow josh is not trying to block shots like he use to

    terrell

    January 12th, 2011
    8:10 pm

    If someone would help Jamal out a little bit, we’d be up 20.

    Andy

    January 12th, 2011
    8:16 pm

    It seems like someone says this during almost every game, and in this game, I feel urged to point it out once again. Josh takes way too many shots for the limited offensive ability he has. His shot selection, for one, was terrible for the most part tonight. The last jumper he made in the half was a good shot in the flow of the offense, but the rest of his shots were really harming the team. 9 shots in the half? Come on, Josh. A player of Josh’s offensive ability should not be taking 18-20 shots per game when you look at the other players on the team.

    Joe, Jamal, and Al should all have more field goal attempts than Josh, unless Josh’s shots come directly in the flow of the offense or are wide open layups/dunks. I really wish Josh would grow up and come back down to Earth. He’s not a great offensive player. He is a very good player, but he should be focusing on making his mark in other areas of the game and not trying to be the leading scorer. I dream of the day when Josh will play his game and learn his boundaries on a consistent basis.

    ThePro

    January 12th, 2011
    8:16 pm

    Ref did have a choice but to call a foul on Zaza there

    ThePro

    January 12th, 2011
    8:17 pm

    Jamal u da man

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:21 pm

    lmao “big nimbers”

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:22 pm

    Jamal scored 25 points in 16 minutes. How many can he score in 35? Lately he’s been so efficient with the ball. Seems to be out to prove a point!

    Sautee

    January 12th, 2011
    8:22 pm

    Andy,

    Four of Josh’s seven misses were in the paint. He has only taken 3 shots outside of 13 ft and was 1 for 3 on those. You cannot deny that his jumper is better this year.

    That said, you may be right about the 18 to 20 attempts. But so far tonight, I’ve only seen two ill-advised shots by Josh.

    Ron

    January 12th, 2011
    8:23 pm

    SportSouth should have a special segment during the halftime of each Hawks game called “‘Nique’s Nimbers”.

    jason

    January 12th, 2011
    8:24 pm

    jamal for 50!

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:25 pm

    How can Hawks give nice contracts to Marvin and Zaza, and not give Jamal one? It is a shame. Jamal is waaaaaaaay more valuable to them than those two!

    Andy

    January 12th, 2011
    8:25 pm

    Sautee,

    Those shots that were in the paint didn’t really look like good shots to me. Some of them were forced, and at any rate, fall-away jumpshots from the paint are not really the types of shots I want Josh taking either. I don’t considering those to be high percentage shots, even if they were in the paint.

    hawkfan

    January 12th, 2011
    8:26 pm

    is it just me or does jose calderon look like a white version of prince, no joke

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:27 pm

    ok these refs need to get it together

    jason

    January 12th, 2011
    8:28 pm

    is it me or do jose calderon and andrea bargnanin look alike?

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:29 pm

    How many times has the Hawks run that back door play for Joe tonite? 3 times?

    Blast

    January 12th, 2011
    8:31 pm

    Hope LD does not keep Jamal on the bench too long. Wanna see him try for 50.

    terrell

    January 12th, 2011
    8:31 pm

    Never seen a team give up so many freakin layups.

    Najeh Davenpoop

    January 12th, 2011
    8:32 pm

    The Raptors’ defense is really, really bad.

    Najeh Davenpoop

    January 12th, 2011
    8:33 pm

    Weird 3rd quarter so far. Neither team looks entirely in sync.

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:33 pm

    put jamal in

    hawkfan

    January 12th, 2011
    8:33 pm

    so funny because during the new year holidays me and jeje were talking about how jamal is due for a 50 point game with the hawks

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:34 pm

    smh I wonder what this team be thinking sometimes

    Sautee

    January 12th, 2011
    8:35 pm

    Joe thought Bibby was 7′ 2″. LOL

    Rafa

    January 12th, 2011
    8:35 pm

    Get Crawford back in, please

    terrell

    January 12th, 2011
    8:35 pm

    If Josh shoots another jumper, I’m going to scream. When’s he gonna realize his shots are not falling tonight? Omg! And put Jamal in for crying out loud. Nobody else wants to be here tonight.

    Sleepy

    January 12th, 2011
    8:36 pm

    Josh is 2-11 he needs to hit the boards and go into make the extra pass mode no need for a PF to keep tossing up shots like that

    jason

    January 12th, 2011
    8:36 pm

    resign jamal, he is way to valuable too loose.

    Sautee

    January 12th, 2011
    8:37 pm

    Andy,

    I don’t like the fallaways either, but I’ll take that over an out of rhythm 20 footer.

    I was just saying that tonight his shot selection wasn’t a huge problem. Unlike some nights.

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:37 pm

    dont blame josh for shooting with 2 secs left on the shot clock

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:38 pm

    lmaooooo joe

    terrell

    January 12th, 2011
    8:39 pm

    ‘Jamal is way to valuable too loose”. lol!

    Jae Evolution

    January 12th, 2011
    8:39 pm

    What…what just happened?

    J.J.M

    January 12th, 2011
    8:40 pm

    just bench josh

    Najeh Davenpoop

    January 12th, 2011
    8:41 pm

    Every rap song they have played over the Raptors’ PA system all game has been at least five years old.

    O'Brien

    January 12th, 2011
    8:41 pm

    In 20 minutes, Bibby jas 5 points and 3 assists. In 4 minutes, Teague has 4 points.

    And why is Josh taking so many shots? I know most of them are close, but shouldnt we be milking Jamal and JJ?

    jason

    January 12th, 2011
    8:41 pm

    josh stop chucking up shots that you think will go down. im still not 100% on his jump shot. still needs some work.

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