Atlanta Hawks: NBA decides Hawks and Bucks will play tonight (Update: Game postponed)
2 p.m. Update: The league announced the Hawks’ scheduled game tonight against Milwaukee at Philips Arena has been postponed because of the severe weather conditions in Atlanta.
The game was rescheduled for March 15 at 7 p.m., which means the Hawks are set to play rare back-to-back home games.
The Hawks plan to attempt to leave tonight for their game at Toronto tomorrow. Their next home game is scheduled for Saturday at 7 p.m. vs. Houston.
Hawks spokesman Arthur Triche said the team is still deciding if fans with tickets to tonights’ game still will be able to redeem them for Saturday’s game or Monday’s annual Martin Luther King Jr. Holiday game vs. Sacramento (4 p.m).
The Hawks had a shootaround today but there was no media availability.
MC
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Jamillion
January 12th, 2011
4:38 am
And for the doubters.Those two picks will be high and won’t amount to hog troth.Ala,like did they become champions after the jj trade? No! We are better than them now so let’s finish the job.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
5:49 am
Elite? You Don’t Say!
An Elite Team, IMHO is a legitimate title contender for a sustained period of time.
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We see this longevity component, more so in Basketball and Baseball (where salaries are guaranteed) than in Football, (where salaries are not guaranteed)
and there is parity. (See The Saints), who fell off as World Champions in less than one year. The Saints are NOT Elite compared to The Patriots who are perennial contenders for The Lombardi Trophy even though they have not won it in the past years.
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So, longevity is The Mark!
This is The Mark, the Atlanta Hawks have yet to achieve.
They Came
They were Measured
And, They are Lacking
- a scene from the movie: Gladiator -
BTW, is Marvin in the witness protection program?
Because, he’s been hiding. Sorry SteveW, I promised to be nice to Marvin, but I couldn’t help myself. Calm down, that was a joke. Marvin has been quite visible this season, great games! I would hate to lose my favorite whippin’ boy for Nash, however Nash is hard to look off, but, wish we could do it w/o giving up
Marvin Gaye Williams. Sometimes, you don’t miss the water, till the well runs dry.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
5:54 am
Buffalo Bills went to 5 Super Bowls in what? 5 years?
And never won, the darned thing. Were they elite?
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Is water wet?
Is a green bean – green?
Can a fat lady sing?
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
6:16 am
Lock and Load!
Nash for Marvin? You make that trade in your sleep, can we get Chills too? He fits the Hawks, shoulda never let him walk, but he is over-paid though.
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Ground Hog Day!
Is it just me? Or, does Utah bore yall to death too, year in and out?
Watching a Jerry Sloan team, is like watching a movie that you have already seen 100 times. I would rather have a surprise element riddled with highs and lows to evoke emotions, fans like roller-coasters, it’s gut wrenching – literally.
I personally hate the feeling of losing my stomach on the down slopes.
But, at least after the ride, you know something just happened – especially, if you barfed. Utah is like having sex, but, you never reach a climax.
No thanks, I’ll pass.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
7:28 am
Marvin has 3 years, $23 mil left after this season, and Chills has 4 years, $26 mil left after this season.
Chills may not defend as good as Marvin, but he might be a better fit for LD’s motion offense, and he is more versatile.
That being said, when Marvin comes back from his injuries, I hope he returns to form. Since late November, I think he is averaging close to 15 and 6 per game. If he can do that consistently (even when coming off the bench), the Hawks will be more balanced, and more dangerous.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
7:28 am
Bush League!
Reggie Bush was jaded and in the same year? He faded.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
7:29 am
How about them Cavs? They lost 57-112 to the Lakers last night. Ouch. I think they will be looking to unload players at the trade deadline, but I dont know if they will find many buyers.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
7:39 am
Ant Banks said this:
“consistently makin’ it to the 3rd rd or ecf would qualify as an “elite” team. boston, lakers, san antonio, comes to mind. THOUGHTS?”
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In the later rounds, the competition is fierce and in a seven game series there is no drop off of talent. It’s all about match ups and executing the offense and defense, while not turning the ball over. Possessions are magnified and mental toughness is the key. You have to play through bad calls, play your game and not the referee. This is where Coaching becomes paramount to winning. But, you can not winm without superior talent at PG and Center. That is on the GM and the organizations established culture of winning.
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Winning starts with the ownership providing the environment to thrive in.
From the paper clips down to the post it notes, training staff, GM and coaches.
Ultimately, it’s on the talents and skills of the players.
See LeBron. He took his talents to So. Beach!
Ra'mon
January 12th, 2011
7:44 am
O’Brien, I wouldn’t mind the Hawks taking Ryan Hollins off of their hands, lol.
Hawks get:
Sessions
Hollins (expiring)
Cavs get:
Zaza
Mo Evans (expiring)
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=626vl4q
dap01
January 12th, 2011
7:57 am
if you think that Sund gives out bad contracts, look at what Chills got in Pheonix.
tony
January 12th, 2011
9:31 am
Here’s a song for you young cats. Real music works wonders.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg7FQ8mJGow
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
9:56 am
dap01,
Chills got 5 years, $33 mil, while Marvin got 5 years, $37.5 mil.
Chills career average: 11 pts, 5 rebs, 2 assts
Marvin’s career average: 12 pts, 5 rebs, 1.5 assts
Do you think Chills’s contract is worse than Marvin’s? Phoenix has given out some bad contracts, but I dont think Chills is any worse than Marvin’s.
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
10:09 am
Ramon,
I’m not sure if Cleveland would trade Sessions. I think they would prefer to trade Mo Williams, who makes twice as much as Sessions.
One PG I think is available is Chris Duhon from Orlando. Now that they have big money tied up to Jameer and Gilbert (and Jason Williams for emergencies), Duhon does not see the floor much (11 DNPCD since early December).
And with Orlando’s $89 mil payroll, maybe they are open to getting rid of him and his remaining 3 years, $11 mil. And Orlando needs a backup Center.
Duhon for Mo Evans and Etan Thomas. Would you make that deal? I dont think Duhon is known for defense, but he would be an upgrade over Teague as the backup PG (imo).
Maybe one of the cap experts can answer this, but the Hawks have a $3.6 mil TPE from the Chills trade. Duhon is making $3.5 mil this season.
Can the Hawks give Orlando the TPE in return for Duhon?
Ra'mon
January 12th, 2011
10:21 am
O’Brien, for Zaza and Evans, Cleveland may wouldn’t do that deal. However, I do believe (if the Hawks would) they would trade Sessions and Hollins for Marvin. Remember they strongly desired having Marvin when it appeared close to agreeing to a sign and trade for Shaq in the off season.
So the deal I would offer would be:
Hawks get:
Sessions
Hollins
Parker
Cavs get:
Marvin
Teague
and 2nd round pick
I’d rather have Bibby over Mo Williams.
The deal you mentioned, of course I would do that deal, and I think Orlando would do it as well because they have history with Evans.
Ra'mon
January 12th, 2011
10:22 am
O’Brien, I don’t think they can give the TPE for Duhon straight up without going into Luxury Tax-
terrell
January 12th, 2011
11:12 am
Who in the hell is this new poster using my name? Use your last name. terrell is taken. lol!
terrell
January 12th, 2011
11:14 am
Sessions? Duhon? No thanks. I’ll take my chances with Bibby and Jamal.
terrell
January 12th, 2011
11:22 am
No way I give up Duck for Sessions and Hollins. Rather have Marvin coming off the bench than either one of those cats anyday.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:28 am
O’Brien
Do you know how much of that $37.5 mil is taxed at the pay window? I know the lotterry winners who take the cash options pay over .60 off the top.
Last week’s Mega Million winner out west won 190M and took the 90M cash option, of course he was 60 some odd years old, but to leave 100M on the table is a lot to walk away from.
I see the NBA salaries as a lottery winning. I guess that’s why you ned a financial planner. But, who would/can you trust with all the Bernie Madoffs’ running wild on Wall Street? I sure wish I had such a dilema.
First thing I would do is change my name to a guy’s name, join The Witness Protection Program and enroll in a finance. class at a community college.
Oh! And go to church to pray nobody robs me.
LOL!
terrell
January 12th, 2011
11:36 am
Lottery winnings are taxed at 40%. NBA players are taxed on their earnings. I’d say Chills payed about 10 mill taxes. Probably only netted around 20 mill after paying his agent, his people, and his girls though. lol!
brigadierjerry
January 12th, 2011
11:37 am
O’Brien,
actually fan of the entertainer in regards to your question about nancy.
drmaryb,
You make a good point in regards to the Utah Jazz. Sloan runs a good system and he gets maximum effort from his players but his players overachieve but in the playoffs you need stars and outside of deron williams they arent gonna make any noise in the playoffs. Even when they had Boozer I never took them seriously as a contender. They have not been a factor of elite team since the days of Stockton and Malone.
The only teams I say right now have a chance to win a ring right now are the Lakers, Spurs, possibly Dallas and Celtics Heat Orlando. If the Hawks got Nash they would have a good shot to reach the Eastern Conference Finals. Hawks are a win now team might as well take a shot with Nash. Smith and Horford are still you and you can retool again with pieces in a few years to build around Josh and Smith
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:37 am
“Can the Hawks give Orlando the TPE in return for Duhon?”
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I believe NorthCyde said the TPE is not transferable and must be used within one year of receiving it?
terrell
January 12th, 2011
11:40 am
LMAO @ Cleveland tanking. Trying to find the next Lebron. Hahaha!
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:47 am
terelle (don’t call me Te-relle)!
Thanks for that response, 40% hugh? Ouch! That’s a whole lot to pay the Govt who does nothing but buy military weapons and Lawd knows what else the do with all that free money. That is a stick up without a gun! Geez!
Well if Chills pockets 20M, he can afford to have them ears pinned down and get a damned haircut. He ain’t fooling nobody with that Afro!
It’s a cover up!
A covert act!
Also, his teeth are so small, all I can see is his gums. Call Nellie and get a referral to buy a “Grill”. There’s no excuse to be looking jacked up with all that money. If Chills could do those two things, he might get a real nice girl then.
Not some gold digger.
LOL!
drmaryb (*_*)
January 12th, 2011
11:54 am
brigadierjerry
Thanks! I love your stuff too, real heady and logical comments!
Keep it coming, I never get enuff of that funky stuff! -smiles-
brigadierjerry
January 12th, 2011
12:02 pm
drmaryb,
thanks. You mentioned that your father had a string of barber shops in NY what part of ny was that?I was born and raised in New york.
Also do you think that the Hawks from the 80’s and 90’s were elite teams with a chance to win year in and year out?
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
12:32 pm
@ Ramon,
I forgot about the luxury tax, which we know the ASG will not pay. Mo Evans and Etan for Duhon works and keeps them out of the luxury tax though.
@ terrell,
I think you’re right. Jamal is our backup SG and backup PG. However, assuming the ASG dont resign Jamal, I think they should sign a backup PG this offseason (if they still dont believe JT0 is ready).
@ drmaryb,
Correct. If the TPE is not used within a year, it will expire. I think Chills was traded in July, so Hawks have to use it by July 2011.
However, with a new CBA and possible lockout, I strongly doubt the Hawks will use it. But look on the bright side…Phoenix also gave us a second round pick
Speaking of second round picks, I read that Sy is 6-35 from the field (.171) in the D-League so far.
Not So Casual Observer
January 12th, 2011
12:34 pm
For the lottery questions:
In a big lottery win the Fed tax will be 35% (the current max tax rate) and the state in which you live (GA for instance takes 6%) will take theirs unless you live in TN, FL, TX or NV – states that do not have a state income tax.
The cash option is most likely the best option since the annuity is funded by government bonds that traditionally pay a low rate of return.
Boooo!
January 12th, 2011
1:45 pm
Ummm apparently Sixer fans arent happy with Igoudala? That would be my assupmtin sice they are trying to asses his trade value.
http://www.libertyballers.com/2011/1/4/1915117/what-is-iguodalas-trade-value
Boooo!
January 12th, 2011
1:46 pm
*assumtion
*since
Rufus1
January 12th, 2011
1:55 pm
Chillz=Damien Wilkins or Matt Barnes
Why do people have such a high regard for him, he can barely get off the suns bench. The reason Wilkins can’t get off the Hawks bench, is his shooting….Chillz wouldn’t offer a better option.
If you haven’t noticed LD values shot makers…..Chillz is not a shot maker….he is Wilkins(Good defender and garbage man)..A good garbage man but yes, a garbage man. That is the reason Mo get the minutes, because he can shoot the 3.
Certain players thrive in certain systems…if Chillz can’t thrive in the Suns system, why would anyone want him.
Rufus1
January 12th, 2011
1:58 pm
PS. I bet the Suns would give-up Chillz for a 2nd round pick today….Lol
Boooo!
January 12th, 2011
2:24 pm
smh…I cant spell today.
KevinM
January 12th, 2011
2:34 pm
Nique and Bob…..the best homers outside of Boston you will ever find.
They are toeing the ASG line there……never a critical word about Marvin, Smoove’s jumpers, or Bibby’s 2 concrete Jordans.
Let’s define elite here: “A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status:
Going by that, the entire league is elite….now if you want to define it by basketball supremacy, the Hawks don’t deserve a mention. They have zilch to their credibility. A 50 win team is not elite…ask the Jazz, who have won 50 for 20+years it seems. I wouldn’t say the Mavs are elite…they’ve been to one Finals. They’re competitive like the Hawks, Jazz, the up and coming loud Thunder, and the Jazz. Wish for it, but it hasn’t arrived in Atlanta.
Elite means you compete against the best and beat those teams who challenge you for the top level. The playoffs is the only thing that will identify this team going forward. They shouldn’t need any more ‘playoff game experience’.
Let’s see how the Hawks look next Monday against an elite team ahead of them in their division.
DMB, good stuff as always!
Just say no to Duhon, he is another overpaid backup PG….is he currently ranked ahead of Bibby? Just asking…
Tyrone
January 12th, 2011
3:29 pm
drmaryb, but more importantly concerned Hawks’ fans by NBA rule, a team cannot receive a player they traded back in the same year unless thru a third team. It was widely reported two months ago that Phoenix was interested in Josh Smith for Nash, but the Hawks declined. My cousin BooBoo in Phoenix said the word there was the Hawks had offered Marivn, Bibby, and # 1 pick for Nash, Phoenix countered with Jamal, Mo, # 1 pick, and CASH(1 Mil). BooBoo reported this trade info back in early December. Now that numerous sport outlets have reported these trade talks, I guess it has been validated.
Moreover as reported, Phoenix wants to dump salaries including Chillz. Vince Carter’s contract is worth 19 mil(expiring this season). Also, this is why a third team is necessary for the Hawks to receive Chillz. Portland has been the team most mentioned. Phoenix will not trade Nash without including Chillz to any team. However, the Hawks are still holding up the deal, apparently!
Fundamentals
January 12th, 2011
3:52 pm
Not too excited about a Chills revisit. Seems he’s joining Salim, AC, Royal and Solo as kids who looked good while we were dreaming…now they tested positive for fools gold. We need better talent. Makes me feel better about Mo Evans just thinking about it.
As for Sy, he definitley looked out of sorts in the Showcase. He did appear alot bigger than I figured. He seemed very physical and tough. He just seemed too slow to get in front of anyone and he’s definitely not an option on the offensive end. He’s not running the point, which was dissappointing, but at least he’s getting minutes.
The man who’s chewing up the court in the D-League is Mario West. Shows you the difference between D-League and NBA. Mario’s getting 20 a night leading the Red Claws while he can’t hardly score for us. Too bad his PG skills don’t translate to a solid backup PG for us. They love him in the D-League.
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
4:32 pm
Dont know and dont care if this trade is possible but I would trade Marvin, Bibby,1st round pick & TPE to Phoenix for Nash & Chills and then I would trade Mo Evans, Etan Thomas, & 2nd round pick to Philly for Igoudala…Sund, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
STARTING: Nash, JJ, Josh, Horford, Collins…BENCH: Teague, Jamal, Chills, Powell, Horford
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
4:35 pm
CORRECTION::
STARTING: Nash, JJ, Igoudala, Josh, Horford…BENCH: Teague, Jamal, Chills, Powell, Collins
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
4:37 pm
We WOULD THEN BE THE TEAM TO BEAT WITH A SQUAD LIKE THAT!!! Nash would be in ASSISTS HEAVEN with that squad!!
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
4:40 pm
Like I said, dont know if this trade is possible but if it is a CHANCE of being a reality….MANN..
What I do know is NASH wants OUT of Phoenix and Philly wants Igoudala OUT!! So once again SUND…MAKE THIS TEAM A CONTENDER!!!!!
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
4:44 pm
I would not want to trade Teague since Nash wouldnt be around much longer. Also, Teague could learn A WHOLE LOT MORE from Nash instead of Bibby or Nick the Quick!!
Willie T.
January 12th, 2011
4:50 pm
Somebody tell me – if the Hawks traded for Nash and Josh Childress who would need to be traded to satisfy the budget and keep the hawks out of the Luxury Tax?
Fundamentals
January 12th, 2011
4:51 pm
If Teague can’t get it from Nash, then do we give up on Royal, I meant AC, I meant Salim…dude needs to step it up or he’s not getting a contract extension.
rusty
January 12th, 2011
4:52 pm
MsDee are you crazy,mo,et & second rounder for iggy,get real or don’t blog stupid trades
O'Brien
January 12th, 2011
5:08 pm
MsDee,
Keep in mind is that the salaries much be within 125% of each other, and both teams must agree to the trade.
lewis
January 12th, 2011
5:12 pm
If Teague can’t learn to shoot from Bibby, JJ, Jamal, i don’t see how Nash will have an impact
Booo!
January 12th, 2011
5:33 pm
Pape Sy D-League Showcase interview with draftexpress:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0S2dknqHGc&feature=sub
KevinM
January 12th, 2011
5:49 pm
Steve Nash=no more defense than Bibby…..don’t you have to have ’some’ defense to survive a 7 game playoff series?
We still have to match up with DWade, Rondo or possibly Rose…not too worried about Nelson.
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
6:13 pm
@rusty
Like I said b4, PHILLY (THEIR FANS AS WELL) WANTS IGGY OUT..therefore, it wouldnt take much to give up for Philly to give him away!!!
MsDee
January 12th, 2011
6:15 pm
O’BRIEN,
Im aware of the salaries must matching and all..just needed to get that off my chest! I would love a combination like that on this Hawks team!!