Hawks-Pacers game thread

Greetings, all-

Some tidbits before you before the tip.

1. Hawks will go with Al Horford, Josh Smith, Mo Evans, Joe Johnson, Mike Bibby. It’s the lineup, essentially, that has gotten the Hawks two wins this year over Indiana. I’m not sure what the Pacers will do, but my guess is Tyler Hansbrough will get his second consecutive start after putting up 23 and 12 against San Antonio Friday night.

2. Hawks signed Damien Wilkins to a 10-day contract. He was at shootaround and I’d expect him to dress tonight. He said the two days following his release were “the longest two days of the year so far. I don’t want to have two days like that anymore.”

This is a man who very much wants to be a Hawk.

I’d think that his second stay with the Hawks may be tied pretty closely to the length of Marvin Williams‘ recovery. Williams is out tonight and is day to day with his back contusion. Drew didn’t have a clear answer about his timetable.

Drew: “We had not completely given up on the idea of bringing [Wilkins] back. We still were looking at some other names but made the decision to bring him back.”

Kris at Peachtree Hoops is at the game and he made an excellent observation, in my opinion, about Wilkins. With Pape Sy signed, Wilkins would take up the 15th and final roster spot if he were signed for the remainder of the season. That would limit the team’s flexibility if there were an injury that necessitated a roster move. So that might also be part of the lack of commitment to Wilkins.

3. Josh Smith on defending Indiana: “It’s a 3-point oriented team, so we’ve really got to guard the 3-point line well. We’ve got to try to contain Danny Granger, be able to do a good job on Roy Hibbert, which we’ve done in the past.”

If you’ll remember, Horford basically pulled Hibbert’s pants down the last time the teams met. Hibbert was 3-for-14 with eight rebounds. I asked Pacers coach Jim O’Brien about what he thought about the Hawks’ Jason Collins lineup, and he said basically it was impressive when a team can win either by going big or small, then noted how much trouble the small lineup gives the Pacers because Horford gives Hibbert, who is in a pretty bad slump, so much trouble.

O’Brien: “Their best lineup, in my estimation, is still their small lineup with Josh Smith at power forward and Horford at center. It’s certainly the most difficult lineup for us to deal with.”

Enjoy the game.

103 comments Add your comment

terrell

January 8th, 2011
6:45 pm

Mo startin? Wow! Collins has EARNED the start. Dammit!

Geemack

January 8th, 2011
6:51 pm

Wasn’t the other line up work? Why do something different?

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
6:54 pm

“If you’ll remember, Horford basically pulled Hibbert’s pants down the last time the teams met. ”

You mean like this?

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
6:55 pm

And yeah, I’m surprised they are going small against a team that starts the 7′2″ Hibbert at center.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
6:56 pm

“Kris at Peachtree Hoops is at the game and he made an excellent observation, in my opinion, about Wilkins. With Pape Sy signed, Wilkins would take up the 15th and final roster spot if he were signed for the remainder of the season. That would limit the team’s flexibility if there were an injury that necessitated a roster move. So that might also be part of the lack of commitment to Wilkins.”

That makes sense, but I’d rather have Damien on this roster than Sy or Etan Thomas.

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Melvin

January 8th, 2011
7:11 pm

Damien Granger… Dang, Nique. The game haven’t started yet and you are stumping over players names…

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
7:13 pm

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
7:14 pm

Welcome back Joe… Joe 7, Pacers 2….

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
7:15 pm

Hawks offense is on fire early.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 8th, 2011
7:18 pm

WoW! That looks like Mookie Blaylock type defense, by Evans and. Horf on Roy!

J.J.M

January 8th, 2011
7:21 pm

wow a tie game that fast

Bobby

January 8th, 2011
7:23 pm

It always amazes me that the Hawks take so long to get Horford involved on the offensive end. Still not a single shot for Al in this game, and they haven’t gone to him in the post a single time. That’s just bad basketball, plain and simple.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
7:31 pm

Teague sighting.

Zaza loves those behind the back passes.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
7:34 pm

Good D by Teague on TJ Ford.

J.J.M

January 8th, 2011
7:34 pm

josh really should work on that hook shot

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
7:35 pm

Easy 3 for Jamal off the Teague penetration.

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
7:40 pm

5 turnovers in the 1st qtr is the only reason the Hawks doesnt have a bigger lead…

Rod S.

January 8th, 2011
7:42 pm

Josh really takes too many shots. He’s, once again, leading the team in field goal attempts for the quarter with 6. He’s made 50% of his shots, but some of those shots were really silly shots. His intentions are usually good, but I just wish he would learn to play under control and stick to what he does best instead of trying to do it all. This is his seventh season and he still hasn’t learned to play under control. It amazes me.

On another note, Joe Johnson looks great tonight. He’s shooting the ball very well and not overhandling the ball or hogging it either. He’s playing great in the flow of the offense. That’s nice to see.

bigdave

January 8th, 2011
7:44 pm

Lynch..

w/ one of the greatest runs ive seen to put the dagger in Saints.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
7:52 pm

najeh- the problem is sy is a long-term investment. not sure about thomas. i’d think he has more utility. but i’m wondering if thomas’ contract is guaranteed?

bigdave

January 8th, 2011
7:53 pm

Joe and Danny beefing..

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
7:55 pm

I dont know why LD do not allow Teague to play extend mins especially in game like this, where there is meaningful mins to be played against a lesser team. He could be learning on the fly or at worst you could really evaluate his progression (or lack thereof). Bibby and Jamal are who they are. Play Teague meaningful mins, in a meaningful game…

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
7:56 pm

lead item in the notebook for sunday is about josh’s improved ft shooting. naturally, he’s 2-4 tonight and is going to the line now for, presumably, another 1-2.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:06 pm

jj, smith and crawford have 24 shots; rest of team 10.

Ron

January 8th, 2011
8:06 pm

Al has a whopping 3 field goal attempts in this half, that’s 1 more attempt than Josh Powell has…

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
8:07 pm

“najeh- the problem is sy is a long-term investment. not sure about thomas. i’d think he has more utility. but i’m wondering if thomas’ contract is guaranteed?”

The Hawks don’t seem to be too concerned with developing two players in Teague and Jordan in whom they have a lot more invested. I’d also argue that when you look at Sy’s potential ceiling and the fact that Joe’s contract dictates that the Hawks are in win-now mode, wouldn’t it make more sense to use roster spots on players who are going to contribute now, as opposed to players who may or may not develop into useful players down the road?

I think Etan’s contract is guaranteed, though.

More great defense by Damien Wilkins, this time on Granger.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:07 pm

josh chirping at ref on way out.

bigdave

January 8th, 2011
8:07 pm

Granger gets the bs calls. please.

terrell

January 8th, 2011
8:07 pm

Good D by Damien there.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:08 pm

ld getting on zaza for not boxing out on free throw.

terrell

January 8th, 2011
8:09 pm

Go Eagles! Beat them Packers.

terrell

January 8th, 2011
8:10 pm

Zaza is a waste of space.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:10 pm

jamal doesn’t seem to have it tonight.

ATL FAN

January 8th, 2011
8:12 pm

Joe’s contract is not win now mode. We could still have another good 2-3 years with him

ATL FAN

January 8th, 2011
8:14 pm

weve also signed many players for extensions such as horford and smith. we need to produce more talent from within to replace other players like crawford

J.J.M

January 8th, 2011
8:15 pm

wow@that last play

Clyde

January 8th, 2011
8:15 pm

Free Jordan Crawford

Mo Evans is just running up and down the court.

superiorblogman

January 8th, 2011
8:22 pm

Bad coaching as usual. Joe should have taken atleast 15 shots in the 1st half as hot as he was. Drew should have milked him. That’s how basketball is supposed to be played. Exploit mismatches and the hot hand. Hawks need a better coach.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:31 pm

teague out for game with contusion on right hand.

Najeh Davenpoop

January 8th, 2011
8:37 pm

“When you got nimbers you gotta force the action.”

J.J.M

January 8th, 2011
8:38 pm

lol@josh “thats bull sh*t man”

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
8:39 pm

Najeh,

I cant believe he continously say “nimbers”….

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
8:40 pm

Teague with a right hand contusion! what did he do, sit on his hand? he only played 5mins…

bigdave

January 8th, 2011
8:41 pm

lol @ the lady in the saints scarf behind the Pacer bench…

who dat.

bigdave

January 8th, 2011
8:42 pm

he doubled up on “nimbers” on consecutive Pacer possessions..

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:42 pm

@ melvin – good one.
a strange game within a game developing between hansbrough, smith.

Ken Sugiura

January 8th, 2011
8:44 pm

two fans can get a restaurant gift card if chosen hawk makes a 3 in given time. one picked josh, the other picked al.

J.J.M

January 8th, 2011
8:47 pm

lmao@joe he had to smile

Melvin

January 8th, 2011
8:47 pm

Ken,

And folks wonder why Josh shoot 3’s. It’s all for the fans, man. What an unselfish guy…