Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 108, Kings 102

Sacramento–The Hawks were having a great time. They were defending, rebounding, and running while overwhelming an inferior opponent. All the starters except Josh were chilling on the bench as the Hawks took a leisurely 22-point lead.

  • The Hawks were up 92-72 after Jamal’s jumper. Josh went to the bench with the Hawks ahead 94-74. Then things got chaotic and Josh, Bibby, Joe, and Al were back off the bench.
  • “I thought we would do a better job finishing up,” L.D. said. “I wanted to give the starters some rest but we just let our guard down. We stopped defending. We stopped executing. We stopped running. They made some shots.”
  • Damien Wilkins traveled and DeMarcus Cousins scored. Carl Landry stole it from Zaza and Tyreke got an and-1. Cousins got an and-1 against Zaza. And then Cousins took it from Jamal, who seemed to be simply inattentive, and Tyreke scored again.
  • Suddenly the Kings were down 94-82 less than two minutes after being down by 20. The Hawks had to make 10 of 10 free-throw attempts in the final 45 seconds to win a game they dominated.
  • “It was a little frustrating,” Smoove said. “We were up 20 with four minutes to go. We have to go to a tough environment at Utah on a back-to-back in a mile-high road game. We could have used that rest.”
  • Jamal’s finish kind of summed up Atlanta’s night. He was brilliant (again) for most of the game, then had that head-scratching turnover. “They sped the game up and started trapping,” he said. “They junked it up and it gave them some life.”
  • Joe, too, was great for most of the night before making a late gaffe. His turnover led to Tyreke’s layup that cut the lead to 98-93 in the final minute.
  • The Hawks regrouped and managed to avoid what would have been a devastating loss. “Everyone has games like this,” L.D. said. “This is the NBA. These things happen.”
  • Joe made a couple classic iso jumpers to hold off the Kings. “We made them put their starters back in the game and Joe Johnson just kept making play after play, big shots,” Kings coach Paul Westphal said.
  • J.J. did it after sitting from four minutes of the third quarter until joining the rescue squad. “It happens that way sometimes,” he said. “You always have to stay ready.”
  • “He came in with a cold body, we put the ball in his hands and he gave us a lift,” Drew said. “I’m seeing him start to get a rhythm.”
  • J.J. got a lot of his 18 shots within the flow of the offense. He was working hard to get to the basket and was effective with his floater. “Joe is fine,” L.D. said. “I know he’s been criticized for being in a slight slump. But I’m confident once the elbow is 100 percent he will find his stroke.”
  • The quicker pace suited Jamal, who was explosive off the dribble. Once he got in the lane he made sound decisions on when to shoot or pass and also threw his body around to earn nine free-throw attempts. “I definitely feel healthy,” he said. “I’ve got my legs back underneath me and I’m just trying to be aggressive.”
  • The Hawks forced the Kings to take long jumpers early and they were making them. Eventually (and inevitably) they stopped going in, the Hawks rebounded the misses and were off and running. It was a devastating display of open-court basketball.
  • “It was fun,” Smoove said. We were able to get fastbreak points and not always depend on our halfcourt offense. It makes it easier for us.”
  • Smoove was (10 defensive rebounds and energetic defense) was a big reason they could run. Bibby (seven defensive rebounds) got it on it, too, snagging long boards, taking a few dribbles and then throwing it ahead.
  • Running like that seemed to give the Hawks a jolt. “It picks up our energy on defense because we can’t wait to get out and run on offense,” Jamal said.
  • Drew normally doesn’t like to push the pace on the road but he said he decided to unleash the Hawks when he saw the Kings weren’t getting back on D. “We got out on the run early and got some easy baskets,” he said. “It all started with Josh and Al rebounding.”
  • Early on, it seemed like the Kings took every ill-advised Hawks shot or pass and scored. Then the Hawks started moving the ball for good shots: They had 14 assists on their first 18 field goals.
  • “They have some real tough matchups for us with size and experience,” Westphal said. “Their backcourt was terrific. Bibby seemed to hit every open shot when they needed. Crawford and Joe Johnson, we just could never really get them under control at all.”
  • The Hawks ended up with 23 assists on 40 field goals. And their 20 turnovers allowed the Kings to stay in it: Sacto scored eight points off four in the third quarter and 11 off eight in the fourth.
  • Al effectively checked Cousins and Jason Thompson but couldn’t find his offense. He badly missed some open looks from his sweet spots.
  • Once the Hawks decided to run, Twin wasn’t much of a factor. Zaza was effective and physical while making his five fouls in 18 minutes count. DNP-CD for Josh Powell.
  • On to Utah for the Hawks, who won there for the first time in 15 years back in February. “They run their sets and are very fine-tuned,” J.J. said. “We’ve got to do the same and have energy and effort for 48 minutes.”

MC

121 comments Add your comment

el primero

January 5th, 2011
2:16 am

jim

January 5th, 2011
2:18 am

i sure hope i am not first

jim

January 5th, 2011
2:22 am

we are going to get destroyed by utah. then LD will commend a winning road trip and we will continue losing to +500 teams. Bibby, Jamal and Maurice for Miller and Camby. WE COULD COMPETE WITH ANYONE!!!!

please free teague

asg still sux

Hawks Fan In New Orleans

January 5th, 2011
3:05 am

NEW MOVIE ABOUT THE ATLANTA HAWKS PLAYER WHO REFUSED TO COME OUT OF HIS SHELL!!!!
Check out the link for the movie poster. Support indie films (in association with ASG of course!)

http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/soullrenaissance/?action=view&current=Marvin_The_Duck_film.jpg

Teague played just 1 minute. Might as well have kept Woody for this lack of player development type.

Big Daddy

January 5th, 2011
4:22 am

I am glad we got the win. It seems the starters were in a great groove. I do wonder if the failure of the people who were put in was because they were put in too soon or whether their lack of previous PT was the reason. In the box score, Teague only played 28 seconds. Evidently LD doesn’t have enough faith in him to warrant more so why not either send him down to the development league or trade him. I personally don’t believe he is A.C. Law 2.0 but, the coach must not see enough of him in practice to give him more time. If we don’t play the bench more, we are going to be in bad shape if someone goes down or several players get in foul trouble. I am glad the team won. GO HAWKS!!

hawkfan

January 5th, 2011
4:53 am

and i thought i was the only one up late, but that lead was never a confident lead; I knew Sacramento could come back on us, it just felt too weird seeing joe, al, and bibby on the bench at the end of the game for that long chilling, smiling, and laughing like the game was over, which it should have been late in the 3rd quarter, I think Jamal is now on a shooting spree to prove his contract extension worth to this team you can see it by his aggressiveness as he knows the season is halfway done and time is ticking, teague is never on the court that much like he was in the beginning of the season still do not understand that move but hopefully he plays tonight, I see utah also blowing us out, hope I’m wrong not likely but it is the nba, GO HAWKS!!!

terrell

January 5th, 2011
6:59 am

If you only get 28 sec vs Sacramento, you have to be sorry as hell. Either that, or he’s messin around with LD’s wife or daughter.

Willie Coyote

January 5th, 2011
7:19 am

…& Teague still can’t get any time…

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
7:36 am

Did not see the game, but glad for the win.

30 minutes for Joe was good, so he should be fresh tonight.

With Bibby being worn down gradually, he still played 33 minutes on the first night of a back to back with DWill coming up. Teague played less than a minute, despite his decent shwoing against the Clippers on Sunday.

Isnt this the type of game to get Teague some PT, especially against Jeter, who played 17 minutes? Come on LD. That was Woodyesque.

Good game by Josh, although he did have 5 turnovers.

I wont be upset if we lose tonight to Utah. But I do expect us to be competitive for the entire game.

dap01

January 5th, 2011
7:57 am

Larry Drew’s word is crap. What kind of development is Teague getting? It’s not like he would be sub for anyone other than one of the most limited PG’s in the league.

dap01

January 5th, 2011
7:59 am

A win is great but to continue as the Hawks are presently constructed is a recipe for a 1st or 2nd round loss. The Hawks must get better and one way to get better is to develop a PG that actually can play defense, penetrate and pick up the tempo. These are things that Bibby can not do.

Defense wins in the playoffs. ISO’s do not.

terrell

January 5th, 2011
8:04 am

Maybe he plans on using Teague a lot tonight. If not, 28 sec is absurd.

dukester

January 5th, 2011
8:04 am

@HAwks fan in New Orleans. The Marvin the duck pic is so funny in so many ways man. But we won a game. Congrats Hawks. I really dont have anything else to say until ASG either sell or shake this team up. They have so much potential and I hate watching a team on the edge.

Tdub

January 5th, 2011
8:35 am

Guys lay off Sund and ASG. They are doing a good job. The deal should be Josh, Marvin and a 1st round pick for Carmelo. Rent him for the remainder of the season and if he likes it here give him the extension, and one more shot blocking center like Camby.

Mike is back

January 5th, 2011
8:39 am

MC, Good Stuff, and you was even a little kind to the guys for gaffe in the fourth quarter…I think any win…is a good win…However I am still adamant in the fact that…I think the Hawks will look the same…until they can give a complete effort for four complete quarters.

If the same thing happen in Utah…well you know the rest.

MC, after watching the precision at which Jamal can operate within the Motion Offense…and his much improved defense…I’m not sure the Hawks can afford to part ways with JC1…what’s your take on the Hawks offense without JC1??

Allofus

January 5th, 2011
8:43 am

Hawks should wait and draft Jimmer Fredette. He will be a sleeper.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 5th, 2011
8:43 am

The NBA is NOT a developmental league.
These coaches have to win games or pack their boxes.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 5th, 2011
8:51 am

Mike is Back!

The Hawks need Jamal more than Jamal needs them. There are a lot of other replaceable players on this roster, besides Jamal. Unless, you’re getting a true PG or C. Most GM’s will not trade a good big for a good small though.

Everybody is trying to win not help other teams beat them, nor beat themselves.

Westurd

January 5th, 2011
9:07 am

I think I saw Teague next to Waldo somewhere on TV last night…I think.

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
9:07 am

Like I said yesterday, before discussing Teague as the PG of the future, let’s take the time to watch his development as a consistent rotational player… which right now, he is not. You don’t go from playing around 18 minutes combined in 4 games to being a starter overnight people. His most avid supporter has lost confidence in him, I put this on the player and not the coach.

KevinM

January 5th, 2011
9:20 am

I thing I was wrong about earlier this year: trying to bring in Jason Thompson before Powell arrived…..man, that would have been a disappointment.

DMB-spot on! JC1 is going to be fine once he finishes out the year with us. He is a huge need for us, but Dallas could take him on and flourish. He would fit on that roster should they move try to move JT.

And who leaves the Grizzlies first? OJ or new guy Tony Allen? They aren’t feelin the love for each other. Should you scuffle with a guy who has ‘offically bronchitis’? :) And one of my favs, Flip Murray, might end up with them if he can get a guarantee. I always thought Flip was good for this bench.

KevinM

January 5th, 2011
9:22 am

Couldn’t Teague go to the D-League and get some run time instead of pickin thorns out of his back side? And if that happens, how long does he have to stay in the D-League? Can he be summoned back immediately?

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
9:31 am

Kevin, yes, players can be sent to the D-League in their first 2 seasons in the NBA… and they could stay as short as one game or much, much longer. A few years ago, the Hawks had Thomas Gardner and Othella Huter play like 1-2 games in the D-League (a waste of time). Pape Sy is there now.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 5th, 2011
9:37 am

Sore Loser = Swole Mouth!

“O.J. Mayo (G) – Memphis Grizzlies

(Wed, Jan 5 – 12:51am ET)

According to multiple reports from league insiders, O.J. Mayo and Tony Allen brawled on Sunday’s team flight over a card debt that Allen wanted to settle, leaving Mayo with a “swollen face” and possibly led to his absence for “bronchitis” on Tuesday.
It’s unclear if the team reported the incident, as they are required to under NBA rules, and the immediate impact could be a suspension for both as the league looks to distance itself from the Gilbert Arenas situation last year. Otherwise, the fact that Allen still started Tuesday’s game speaks volume about Mayo’s standing with the team and his role in this incident, unless of course Lionel Hollins didn’t know about it — which is unlikely. Chances are Allen wanted to collect his debt while Mayo was still a Grizzly”
________________________________

Mayo was a thief in college and now a thief in his locker room. If, you lose a card game? Isn’t there a Man-Law that says – Put Up or Shut Up?
IDK if Mayo is a true PG or not, but I hope The Hawks don’t entertain bringing that bad character here. If, your character is questionable? Then make sure your game is tight! I wouldn’t mind having a bad-boy on our team, but he better be a baller too. I see Artest and Phil had a blow-up in L.A. This week. Something about finger pointing and calling out Artest for disappearing in games.I guess The Lakers, secretly didn’t like him auctioning his 1st Ever Championship Ring off on the Internet! Them Rings are The King in L.A. – I guess. Also, three players late for Shoot Around and Gasol didn’t even bother to show up. Something about, the IPOD Alarm is malfunctioning worldwide?
I purport, if you make 80M dollars, you can afford a back-up alarm system or have a begging family member give that Wake Up Call to earn their hand outs!
Aye Pau Gasol … Have your Brother Marc – give you a Wake Up Call for free?
Anyway, Kobe was pissed at Pau and the teams laziness after winning that 2nd Consecutive Championship! Are the Lakers Bored of Winning?

KevinM

January 5th, 2011
9:53 am

DMB, with these guys, you can do better than just an alarm clock to wake you, wouldn’t you think? Plenty of gal-pals intown to help?
These issues that are cropping up in LA…..
Won’t impact the LA family..they squabble during the season, get tired of being around each other, then they come together after the all-star break and control their destiny all the way to the Finals….really, is there any Western conference team that concerns them? I don’t see one.

Mayo, he has had a posse adoring his every move since 7th grade. Several colleges wouldn’t go near him which is why he ends up in SoCal.
SoCal pays for their assocation with him in a bad way while he skates away with a mega-million lifestyle. Mayo is one of those guys you won’t want to incorporate into your core. Sund is probably laughing at it….I mean, really, how many SGs should we stockpile?

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
9:54 am

I have always been a fan of Teague and his potential. But I dont think he is ready to start, and I’m not sure if he is ready for major minutes yet.

However, I do think LD needs to find a consistent 12-16 mpg for him. If not, there is a strong possibility that we will struggle in the playoffs with Bibby and Jamal running the point.

And if Teague is not good enough, then they should explore other options, because we need a legit backup PG.

KevinM

January 5th, 2011
9:56 am

Astro, I knew Pape was there, I just don’t keep up with the rules on the D-League and how reactive you can be to bring a guy back you assign there. I bet Rashaad McCants wishes Dallas would do a quick recall….Now you say the 1st 2 years, they can be sent there…are the rules different for a McCants or can the Mavs just bring him in to fill Butler’s roster slot?
And did ‘Toine ever make it to his D-League assignment?

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
9:58 am

it was not a bad pick,

Despite playing alot of minutes at SF last night, Josh had 14 points, 11 rebounds, and 6 assists (although he did have 5 turnovers).

Did anybody even notice that Marvin didn’t play?

And Jamal went 10-17 from the field, for 31 points, and 7 assists. Remind us again how overated/average he is.

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
10:02 am

KevinM,

Despite having 3 SG on the roster (JJ, Jamal, and Mo), the Hawks have not sent Jordan to the D-League (which I disagree with). And its not like the Hawks are blowing people out, which would allow more PT for JC2.

Therefore, I doubt they would even consider sending Teague down.

nes

January 5th, 2011
10:03 am

Same old song and dance with LD, my guess is Teague is in the Drew’s doghouse and that is the reason not playing much lately. Also, what is the deal with playing D. Wilkins so many minutes? Just look at his stats every game and he gets almost no points and very few rebounds. Even if he is playing tough defense he is still a liability in this offensive system. Lets see Pape Sy! LD loved this guy so much and drafted him in second round and he can’t even play as a backup yet! i said this before, could’ve have signed him as a free agent and drafted a big body who could at least contribute! i predict the hawks are one and done if they make the playoffs.

KevinM

January 5th, 2011
10:22 am

I know JC2 has been in street clothes lately, and you would think LD would like to get these guys some time. I would think both guys should take a trip to Idaho or wherever we send our D-Leaguers and keep them in game shape.
Looks like LD is settling into a shorter rotation going forward. The Hawks are 3rd in wins in the East and they better get as many wins as they can now before the brutal stretch the NBA scheduler provided to them. LD must be seeing the tough stretch just ahead.

OB, I thought a 2-2 record on this West trip would be sufficient to most. They almost didn’t get the chance to hold that record.

Regarding anyone missing Marvin: I think they do miss him, but the guys who take those minutes help in small spurts. While they are in small spurts, at least LD did give these guys a chance to play some during the season. I like LD digging into his bench some, but he should or why have these guys on the roster? They need to play and they will make mistakes. They are there to fill bumps in the road and they are doing that for the most part. You can’t count on a Collins or Zaza to play at the same level as Al, but there is enough depth to compensate for a Marvin outage.

And if Smoove never took another long jumper, that would satisfy me very much. He is wasting possessions and the risks don’t outweigh the benefits. You are what you are in this league.

jlewis

January 5th, 2011
10:23 am

LD has nothing against Teague, he is trying to win, maybe he makes to many mental errors or simply is not that good. I’m also tired of everytime JJ makes a shot it’s ISO Joe, and about every basket Jamal scores is off ISO, what ever happened to fair and balanced. If you dont want the guy here, just write an article about it calling for him to be traded, since that seems to be the underlying theme of every write up.

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
10:24 am

An article on Jamal worth reading.

Some excerpts;

Drew, the longtime Hawks assistant who signed a two-year deal worth a combined $2.5 million to become the head coach in early June, made it clear he wants Crawford to return next season.

“No doubt; no doubt I want him back,” he said. “There’s no question about that. I know what his value is to this ball club, and I’m going to do everything in my power to get him back. He’s such a value to us.”
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http://nba.fanhouse.com/2011/01/05/jamal-crawford-is-at-peace-even-if-his-contract-situation-isnt/

drmaryb (*_*)

January 5th, 2011
10:28 am

Prove It!

OBRIEN again, proves his point with Jamal’s Stats and Facts!
Bad Pick will not come anywhere near Obrien for the next couple of days.

Is it just me or does Teague seem sleepy to yall? Does he sleep in meetings? Does he arrive late and leave early for practices? There is something going on there behind the scenes that we nor MC will never be privy to.

So, I trust that Coach knows something that we don’t about this Teague character. There is a reason he is nailed to that bench. We may never know the whole story. Locker Rooms are sacred havens for the players.

Either way, we need a PG! And we need one now! Not a developmental project.
This is the NBA man! This is a grown man’s business! These old dudes got kids and wives to feed, they’re not gonna let a rookie eat their lunch.

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
10:28 am

The other factor in his frustration was the uneven distribution of the Hawks’ payroll, as the six-year, $123 million deal given to shooting guard Joe Johnson in July combined with the five-year, $60 million extension given to forward Al Horford in early November meant there wasn’t much of the Hawks’ financial pie left for Crawford. As such, he said they will be given no special consideration in the recruiting process..

And JJ wants him back too;

“Everybody in our front office knows how much of a key piece he is to this team,” said Johnson, who missed nine games in December after having elbow surgery and is in the midst of one of the worst seasons of his career from an offensive standpoint.

“I can’t really see him going anywhere else. Something’s got to happen. I don’t know what, but I’m sure they’ll make something happen.”.

I just can’t see the Hawks finding the money to pay him what he wants, even with lower CBA salaries.

Boooo!

January 5th, 2011
10:29 am

So, after Bibby stunk it up against the clippers (a game in which Teague Played well in) and he performs well against the kings last night while teague gats no PT? You all are so right, Teague doesnt deserve to start or play significant minutes LOL.

I know one thing is for sure, Bibby sure knows how to play when he’s in a contract year or in front of his old sactown fans and the organization who traded him away because they saw the righting on the wall (and the harsh reality that we are currently dealing with). Bibby numbers othewise don’t say much of anything. WE WERE SWINDLED BY THIS LOOSER. He hasnt had a 30pt game since the 08-09 season HIS CONTRACT YEAR. smh WAKE UP! He’s DONE! He will be his old sorry self against the Jazz. I know he was showing off for the fans last night because he was pushin/handling the ball a lot and playing fast LOL. When has he done that this season? He even tried to trow Smoove a few lobs! Havent seen much of that lately either…

AND THE ONLY REASON HE DIDN’T LOOK BAD LAST NIGHT IS BECAUSE THE KINGS STARTED BENO UDRICH AT PG INSTEAD OF TYREKE EVANS!

WHEN I GO TO A CLIPPERS BLOG AND THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT BIBBY BEING OVERPAID, THATS WHEN YOU KNOW ITS OVER. WE WONT BE ABLE TO GET RID OF HIM OR MARVIN.

Just take the easy way out and make yourselves FEEL better by blaming Jeff Teague…riiight.

Put it this way, If I had to choose between Teague and Bibby to play one on one, I’d choose the old man. I dont want to get stripped and dunked on.

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
10:30 am

Kevin, I think there are different rules for free agents signees like McCants. His NBA service was interrupted when he wasn’t in the league last year. I don’t think there is a rule that any player affiliated with an NBA team has to keep the player there for a set number of games. Of course, not every player in the D-League is affiliated with an NBA team. Antoine Walker, as an example, is free to sign with any NBA team. Same for Antonio Daniles (currently injured but also trying to resurrect his NBA career).

OB, if LD doesn’t trust Teague on a Tuesday night game against the worse team in the NBA (when up by 20), we have a LONG way to go to believe that he will get meaningful time in a playoff game in a few months. I agree with your latter point, we need a dependable PG added to this squad behind Bibby.

O'Brien

January 5th, 2011
10:31 am

drmaryb,

What might be going on with Teague that we dont have any knowledge about, is maybe he is not playing well in practice (or not doing what LD instructs him to do).

JeJe

January 5th, 2011
10:35 am

How does Powell not get PT?

This guy is a solid offensive player and brings energy to this team. I’m sure he could’ve gotten some burn on Cousins.

It’s baffling Bibby plays 33 min vs this team. LOL

And I think Orlando should offer Redick or QRich for one of these Sacramento bigs…Maybe for J.Thompson and a pick

JeJe

January 5th, 2011
10:39 am

Teague’s jumpshot has actually been solid lately too.

I believe he was 2-3 vs. the Clippers, 2 of the shots being jumpers (one was a 3 I think)

SteveW

January 5th, 2011
10:41 am

Bibby, in after 1 1/2 quarters didn’t play that well. Did he score after half time? He was gassed, and then when the starters came in to save the game, he bricked up a 25 footer almost immediately.

And Teague played for 8 seconds. And 1 of 4 reasons ASG gave for firing Woody is he should have played Teague more. It’s a shame. I’m glad we won though.

Boooo!

January 5th, 2011
10:42 am

Modern day Konack….him and Marvin smh…

Teague is very smart actually. His apptitude for passing is very high, especially on the break. He learned Early last season that Woodson didn’t like him shooting jumpers so he has played to his strengths instead. My thinking is that Teague watched a lot of Rondo in the playoffs because he acts just like him on the court now. If the defense is baiting him by leaving him open for a jumpshot, he doesnt take the bait he puts pressure on the defense ond forces them to defend him.

And that hasn’t even been an issue lately because his has been connecting on his jumpers. Just like he did in college. The two teams that come to mind who had Jeff Teague Look a likes starting at PG are doing exellent now. Boston and OKC. Westbrook and Rondo were both explosive RAW PG’s with exellent handle and ability to get to the rack. They both had sub par jumpers as well. BUT IF YOU THROW THEM IN THE FIRE AND LET THEM MARINATE…well you’ve all seen the results. IDIDN’T EVEN MENTION DERRICK ROSE WHO HAD NO JUMPER AS WELL. THESE TEAMS ARE FLOURISHING WITH THESE PLAYERS AT THE HELM!

Teague should start now so he will be ready to come out of the oven during the playoffs. He will be a nightmare for other teams. I really WILL NOT WATCH OUR PLAYOFF GAMES IF BIBBY IS OUR STARTING PG! I DO NOT WANT TO SEE HIM GET TORCHED BY ROSE, RONDO, JAMEER ETC.

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
10:43 am

LD was Teague’s “home room” teacher last season and when he became the head coach, he hired a “personal handler” to work with Teague. That suggests that while LD knew first hand that Teague was worth the investment, he also knew first hand that Teague required a little extra help. My guess is that he is young in both age and make-up. And LD is making a comparable decision as his predecessor… the team comes first. Teague needs to catch-up in practice and until he does, he’ll likely be used situationally… just like any other 3rd string player.

SteveW

January 5th, 2011
10:45 am

I’m afraid we’re toast with Jamal also. We already have over 64 mil. committed to 9 players next season. I don’t see how we bring him back. And he’s my favorite backcourt player (probably).

It does look like Jamal is over his little pouting over his contract, his adjusting to LD’s offense, and his back problems. The guys been beasting it the last week or so!

Looks like he an JT duking it out for SMOY

SteveW

January 5th, 2011
10:48 am

Booo – I’ve been comparing Teague to Rondo, Rose, and Westbrook for a while. He’s not going to learn in practice. Gotta be thrown in the fire. Start Teague! Start ZaZa!

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
10:49 am

Booo!, you do know that both the Celtics and Thunder didn’t make the playoffs when those PGs were “going through the fire”. And Westbrook was a lottery pick and I’m pretty sure that Rondo was the 2nd or 3rd PG chosen in his draft class. Teague was like the 7th or 8th PG chosen. In time, Teague maybe closer to Jordan Farmar… a solid, athletic back-up PG. I think that is a much more realistic, especially on a team that isn’t in rebuilding mode and can’t endure the growing pains of youthful starting PG.

Boooo!

January 5th, 2011
10:49 am

RICK SUND NEEDS TO CUT LD’S UMBILICAL CHORD AND GET RID OF BIBBY AND MARVIN! THESE PLAYERS HAVE STOLEN MONEY FROM THIS ORGAINIZATION AND DO NOT DESERVE EVEN HALF OF THE PLAING TIME THEY RECEIVE.

I am aware that Sund is at fault for most of this as well handing them those contracts…the owners too. I do Like Zaza’s contract though.

Ken Strickland

January 5th, 2011
10:52 am

It will be interesting to see how LDrew tries to contain PG DWilliams. We all know MBIbby and Jamal can’t handle him defensively, and it’s risky to expect Jamal to neutralize him with another high scoring output. Otherwise, we matchup well with them and can come away with a win if we play smart and reduce turnovers.

We’re having too many unforced turnovers. Even normaly reliable MBibby is starting to create turnovers with poor entry passes, and Jamal is suddenly having trouble with his handle. Bibby’s unwillingness to force the issue when pressured prevents him from getting in position to create better passing angles.

We’re being hampered offensively because teams have absolutely no respect for his ability to handle the ball under pressure, or beat anyone off the dribble, penetrate and finish. His lack of penetrating ability allows teams to extend their DEF and over play, with little risk of getting burned in the lane.

Man, the Hawks could end up being a team simular to the Heat if we had or developed a quality PG.

SteveW

January 5th, 2011
10:55 am

Now Teague is not as go as Rose, Rondo, or Westbrook.I don’t think (except athletically), but I think Jeff Teague is a 15 ppg 7 assist 2 steals 4 rpg type player. He has that type of athleticism and scoring ability. I just hope we don’t destroy him by not developing him.

I think Sund/ASG is going to have to step in and tell LD he’s playing no matter what. LD looks scared, and he’s coaching for his life right now. And this is probably his only opportunity in the NBA HC level if he fails here. And ASG only gave him a 2 year window.

Astro Joe

January 5th, 2011
10:55 am

Guys, just because your an athletic PG, doesn’t mean you’re the next Westbrook, Rose or Rondo. 2 of those guys were high lottery picks (Rose drafted #1) and the other has incredible work ethic. Being fast and jumping high does not entitle you to playing time nor stardom. Javale McGee is about as athletic as any big man out there… anyone think he is the next Hakeem or David Robinson? If you think basketball is all about running fast and jumping high, then you don’t understand the game… and probably have no idea why someone like Steve Nash is as great as he is (since he does neither of those things very well). It’s also insulting to Rose, Westbrook and Rondo to reduce them to fast runners and high jumpers, when they clearly do so much more mentally and emotionally for their respective teams.