Atlanta Hawks at Kings: Good team, bad team
Sacramento–Lester Conner’s pregame board has a different look tonight. The offensive and defensive keys are each labeled with “good teams.” As in . . .
Defensively, good teams: box out, defend one-on-one, defend in transition and play hard. Offensively, good teams: take good shots, make the extra pass, execute the offense, put away bad teams.
At the bottom of the keys: “REALIZE We are a good team.”
The Kings, who own the worst record in the league, qualify as a bad team. Sacto has won two of its last three, though, and the Hawks haven’t truly crushed a “bad” team on the road since Nov. 28 at Toronto.
“We don’t even look at the record,” L.D. said. “You have got to respect all opponents. Anybody can be beaten on any given night. They are a team that’s capable. I watched their game against Phoenix, and if you would have stopped the tape at the five-minute mark you would have thought that Phoenix was going to come away easily with a win. Sac kept playing, they made some shots and they ended up winning the game.
“In this league, anything can happen. We have got to play with that consistent effort that we have been searching for for a few games now.”
Going big
L.D., influenced by Kings rookie DeMarcus Cousins, is using the big lineup again.
“He is a load,” Drew said. “I didn’t want to put Al on him at the very beginning. At some point Al will be at the five but I didn’t want to start with Al banging with him because he is a presence in the low post. He’s a big body. He’s been playing pretty well.”
Cousins is averaging 21.7 points in his last three games. . . .
It doesn’t appear JC2 is joining Pape Sy in the D-League anytime soon.
“His name came up even before Pape went,” L.D. said. “That hasn’t been anything solid as far as that is concerned. We brought his name up weeks and weeks ago. We are just going to leave our options open with that.”
MC
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Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
9:40 pm
First? Its Sacramento. Give Teague some burn.
darrell starks
January 4th, 2011
9:41 pm
WOW ME FIRST UNBELIEVABLE.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
darrell starks
January 4th, 2011
9:41 pm
LOL!!!!!!
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
9:49 pm
With Marvin, JJ, and Jamal all injured to varying degrees, I would keep JC2 here as well. Wish we could blow a team out and get him some burn though. I don’t think tonight will be that night however, hope i’m wrong.
Gavin Maloof
January 4th, 2011
9:49 pm
Whoever is watching this game, please re-examine your priorities in life.
Thank you.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
9:50 pm
Rev – Cosign. I Can’t imagine Bibby going all night against Tyreke and Udrih.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
9:52 pm
Glad we didn’t trade for Caron Butler. Out for the season. Also Udonis is healing sooner than excpected for the Heat, so they’ll have him and Dampier for the playoffs. Not good.
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
9:54 pm
LOL @ Al saying he’s a 5, but LD saying he doesn’t want Al going against a physical body
Which isit?
SMDH
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
9:56 pm
Wow, the Bucks are giving the Heat a run, the Knicks are taking it too San Antonio, and Memphis is beating OKC in the 4th qtr. Night for the unusual it seems.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
9:58 pm
Conner said on the blackboard, “Offensively, good teams: take good shots, make the extra pass, execute the offense, put away bad teams.” Think he’s talking to Smoove?
Oldtimer
January 4th, 2011
10:03 pm
Lets see if Hawks can win two games in a row on the road. Teague will get some minutes in this game
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:04 pm
Dampier had 9 rebounds in 15 minutes against Bogut and the Bucks.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:05 pm
Damps +/= was +19, highest on the team. In 20 minutes not 15, excuse the error.
yodaddy
January 4th, 2011
10:06 pm
We will have to sweat this one out…no doubt about it
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:11 pm
It’s the little things like knowing what’s written on the white board in the Hawks’ locker room that makes this blog a must read. Great stuff MC, real talk.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
10:11 pm
HELP!!! Channelsurfing.net is not working for me tonight. Where can I find the game online???
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:12 pm
Bibby rockin’ the purple headband… shout out to his old team I guess?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:12 pm
Try atdhe.net or myp2p.eu
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:13 pm
Taj Gibson 16 pts and 14 boards off the bench for the Bulls.. I dread to see what they will look like when Noah gets back.
I think Deng has benefited more than anybody having TT as coach. His defense first style has got to remind Deng of Coach K.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:13 pm
http://www.atdhe.net/31902/watch-atlanta-hawks-vs-sacramento-kings
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:15 pm
lmao wtf was josh thinking
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:16 pm
blue headband for the NBA ‘FIT’ campaign..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:16 pm
Smoove gets burned on the perimeter by Garcia on one end and travels trying to drive inside on the other end. Then he posts up and finds Collins for an easy dime.
The big lineup is good for a lot of people, but it is not good for Smoove. He belongs in the post, and PF is the easiest way to keep him there.
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:18 pm
damn.. thats a FOUL!
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:18 pm
wow how did joe not get fouled
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:18 pm
Refs not off to their greatest start.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:19 pm
Nice post move by Smoove, and there’s his explosiveness.
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:20 pm
josh got that T.I. fade
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:20 pm
Josh poked that one..
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
10:20 pm
THanks Najeh!
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:23 pm
6:08 into the game and we have our first “nimbers”.
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:23 pm
oh this Slick crew tonight… no wonder the refs on that foolery..
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:25 pm
lol wow joe
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:25 pm
Evans got a way w/ hook..
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:26 pm
*away
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:26 pm
It’s still early, but so far, Jason Thompson doesn’t look like a guy worth trading Jeff Teague for.
Jae Evolution
January 4th, 2011
10:27 pm
JOSH RUN FASTER WTF WAS THAT YOU HAD UDRIH SPRINT YOUR ASS DOWN THERE!!!!!
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:28 pm
Collins unmovable force..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:28 pm
I think it’s safe to say Mo Evans is not the best Evans on the floor in this game.
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:28 pm
mo evans…
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:28 pm
wtf are the kings doing?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:29 pm
Tyreke, on the other hand, continues to murder my fantasy team’s field goal percentage.
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:29 pm
Najeh,
I got to disagree with you. Mo can’t hold Tyreke jock strap and Tyreke is playing with a (foot) injury (i believe)….
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:33 pm
joe needs to learn how to pass the ball
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:33 pm
Man, just when I start talking smack about Bibby, he comes out with a good game. 5 boards in the 1st quarter?
Jorge
January 4th, 2011
10:34 pm
Strange substitutions by L.D. early on tonight.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
10:34 pm
“Mo can’t hold Tyreke jock strap”
That’s what I said.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:35 pm
Najeh – Agreed about Smoove in the post
Samuel
January 4th, 2011
10:36 pm
The next person who mentions the “motion offense” would somebody please slap em. Same ole, same ole.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:37 pm
Jamal is on fire!!!
And Al and Smoove with 3 assists each in the 1st quarter. At this rate, Bibby will be our rebounding leader, and Al and Smoove our assists leaders. And somebody was talking of making Al and Smoove G’s….
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:37 pm
Samuel – Thank you
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:37 pm
No love for Teague tonight….
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
10:38 pm
there seems to be this misperception that depth somehow translates into a championship roster. most championship teams have six guys they can depend on. quality over quantity. we sit here for hours dissecting minutes of who exactly! bibby or teague? wilkins or evans? duck butt or jsmurf? ld or woody? players who are necessary but not necessarily essential for this team to make some legitimate noise in the east. need a big three. who’s ours? looks like there’s four wannabe horsemen trying to settle who rightfully deserves to be a part of this unholy trinity. if that flew over your head it’s ok because i have no idea what it means other than that damien needs more PT!!!!!!!!
an aside…. silence is golden when compared to listening to nique breakdown the game.. “I tell you Bibby is really shootin that ball.” for the one hundreth time… geez do some freaking homework.
i hear what you guys are saying about thibodeau but “CMON MAN!!!!”…. that dude ain’t all that. he’s got one heckuva roster though. he should be a major contender in the east with rose, boozer and noah. it’s ok. i know you guys are smarter than that. i’ll let this one slide. shall we take a look at the bull’s last ten wins? raptors, cavs, nets, bucks, pistons, wizards, 76ers, raptors, pacers, timberwolves. those teams look familiar? pretty much the same team the hawks ran through. tom thibodeau is an ok head coach and an awesome assistant coach. instead of competing for championships that team will settle for a 2nd round bow out reminiscent of our hapless hawks.
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:39 pm
^^^nobody will read all that
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:39 pm
Najeh,
my badd.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:39 pm
Time to bring in Teague and Wilkens
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:42 pm
Can we just not blow out a bad team? I don’t think anybody read Conner’s whiteboard.
And maybe we’re saving Teague for tomorrow against DeRon?
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:43 pm
Kenny Smith, “I don’t like to watch bad basketball. And the Hawks play bad basketball” Co-sign.
But Go Hawks!!!!
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:43 pm
Bibby can’t even guard Pooh Jeter….LOL
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:44 pm
“Jeter”
-Bob
Samuel
January 4th, 2011
10:44 pm
LD and Sund must be “showcasing Bibby”, LOL!!
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
10:45 pm
nice ball movement…but whats up with horford
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:46 pm
Way to crash those boards Hawks. I like ZaZa and Al in there together
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:46 pm
Nice to hear Bill Walton on the broadcast. I know he was battling health issues these past few years…
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:47 pm
Another board for our leading rebounder Bibby!
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
10:47 pm
we have to ignorant ball clubs going @ it tonight folks.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
10:47 pm
Why isn’t Horford being more aggressive in this lineup?
Jae Evolution
January 4th, 2011
10:48 pm
More Hawks players need to adapt Pachulia’s mentality, of go in the paint and get your ass fouled enough of these jumpers.
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
10:48 pm
Take Mo out. We already got his 2 limit avg for good plays for tonight.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:48 pm
Way to do it Mike!
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:49 pm
I would come out of ths break with Teague in the lineup for Jamal.
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
10:50 pm
i’m not done jjm
as for the ongoing discussion about marvin. he sucks. can he be a decent piece in the right situation? maybe. he’s slow, awkward and not all that athletically gifted. add to those facts he’s an under avg passer and dribbler and you have one pretty pathetic baller. not to mention second overall pick.
jsmurf please go far, far away.
too many guys on this team trying to be “the” “da” man? jsmurf and his desires to transform into a poor mans lebron is just wasted energy. jj and his “i don’t give a damn about you i’m rich b*tch!” attitude is warranted but disappointing from your captain and supposed leader. ld and his stuttering make for a painful interview but he’s a bright guy that actually conceptualizes and theorizes (is that a word?) the game but he’s too much of a p***y to demand the players give him what he expects.
why is every atlanta them “rise up” pretty lame if you ask me.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
10:50 pm
SteveW, if Teague gets only a little time tonight, he will get less tomorrow. It makes no sense.
Sleepy
January 4th, 2011
10:51 pm
we really need more plays of us ACTUALLY PASSING THE BALL AHEAD AND THEN RUNNING THE FLOOR it seems everyone always wants to dribble it all the way up and that kills our fast break opportunities . We need to pass ahead and haul butt to fill the lane . I think we could get 8-10 more easy baskets a game like that
Randolph
January 4th, 2011
10:51 pm
It’s amazing how many mistakes nba scorekeepers make…
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:51 pm
Good balanced scoring. No Hawk in double figures. Now can we beat the Jazz tomorrow night? Please!! Give me a quality win on the road.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:52 pm
Rev – Weird
Samuel
January 4th, 2011
10:52 pm
Maloof,
You are absolutely correct. I’m outa here.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:52 pm
Rev – Your not weird, the Teague deal is weird. I don’t get it.
Sleepy
January 4th, 2011
10:53 pm
The Kings are bad …..
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:54 pm
Way to go Josh and Jamal!! Let’s get a big lead at the half.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:55 pm
Jamal’s on fire again!! It would have been a bad move possibly to take him out after that TO. And Bibby’s got like 7 or 8 rebounds. Headed for a double double!
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:57 pm
Memphis beat OKC.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
10:58 pm
Josh has 5 pts, 5 ast, and 7 rebs tonight.
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
10:59 pm
Horford’s off tonight. I wonder if his hand is hurt?
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:00 pm
lol the heat check line
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:00 pm
Ramon, that is correct, and has only taken 3 shots. Good job Smoove!
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
11:03 pm
That was a bizarre offensive call on Josh….
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:03 pm
SteveW, my kids think I’m weird
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:03 pm
tripple tripple tonight
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:03 pm
And then Smoove misses two FT’s and makes an offensive foul. Ow! That hurt.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:04 pm
LOL, Josh knew that Bibby would get run down from behind on the fastbreak
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:05 pm
9 boards and 5 assists for Smoove at the half – Very good!
yodaddy
January 4th, 2011
11:06 pm
up by 14? Shocking
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
11:06 pm
What the hell is the deal with LD’s rotations?
How doe Teague not play 1 second vs. this Jeter kid?
Unbelievable.
I don’t have the box score in front of me, but I’m pretty sure Bibby played at least 18 minutes in this half
Any coach who cannot develop a consistent rotation is a failure.
Where the hell are Damien? Powell?
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:07 pm
Still a dangerous game we could easily lose. Sure played those starters alot in the 1st half, with a flight to Utah, then a game in less than 21 hours after this one ends.
8 man rotation. But we’re up, and that’s good!
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:08 pm
Bibby, Josh and Al all played 18 minutes.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:08 pm
NBATV picked up the Hawks game just before half, but they are using the Kings announcers. But its not all bad because Bill Walton is helping call the game. I hope they carry the rest of the game after the half since it offers me a rare opportunity to watch the Hawks in HDTV rather than on a computer
SteveW
January 4th, 2011
11:08 pm
Rev – Ha!
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
11:08 pm
This team went for too many daggers in the 2nd qtr. Too many 3s and rushed shots. We should be up 20
USE DAMIEN AND TEAGUE
How does Damien not play at all on Tyreke?
How does Teague not play on Jeter?
Pathetic
Worse coach than Woody
Randolph
January 4th, 2011
11:10 pm
Bill Walton made some great points about the Hawks during the broadcast. He pointed out what I consider to be the team’s biggest problem – mental toughness. He mentioned that the Hawks have to personnel to be a contending team, but they fail to progress mentally and don’t play smart basketball. He also called out how infrequently we go to our bigs in the post, which makes almost no sense. He also called out the fact that we try to over-dribble and go 1 vs.1 too often. I agree with all of these points. Walton knows what he’s talking about.
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
11:13 pm
Had no idea Walton was the Sacramento guy. Was always wondering why he didn’t go National TV Broadcasts anymore
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
11:13 pm
not everyone deserves to play…. home boiiiiiiiii.. heh don’t hate just a failed attempt in being hip hopish? heh.
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
11:13 pm
before the irony guy gets me..
*two
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
11:17 pm
wow randolphy. you praise walton for pretty much what this blog has been screaming for the past several years. in fact it’s been a screeching redundant theme of this blog.
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
11:17 pm
what do Joe, Dunta, and Dan have in common..?
good grief.. 5 yrs Braves.. really?
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
11:18 pm
good job blog! great insights!!!
they say crack is wack i say tic tac?
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
11:18 pm
HEY LARRY DREW U DON’T NEED TO COACH FOR YOUR JOB.
YOU WILL NEVER BE FIRED.
ASG CAN’T AFFORD TO PAY ANOTHER HO-HUM ASSISTANT COACH MINIMUM WAGE SALARY TO COACH THE TEAM. SO USE THE BENCH. EVEN IF IT COSTS US GAMES, YOUR JOB SECURITY IS EXCELLENT
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
11:19 pm
gnite my children until next time …………….
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:23 pm
“The next person who mentions the “motion offense” would somebody please slap em. Same ole, same ole.”
Maybe the Hawks are not running an entirely different offense, but the Hawks this year are definitely sharing the ball better (as evidenced by the fact that they are assisting on a higher percentage of made baskets) and playing inside-out more instead of having the offense flow through the perimeter. Both of those qualify as significant improvements.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:25 pm
Bibby has another rebound
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:27 pm
dont give them life
honest_abe
January 4th, 2011
11:28 pm
one last thing.
pad those stats josh. pad those stats because you sure as hell ain’t goin to put up any numbers against utah except maybe 5 turnovers. josh smith’s athleticism with paul millsaps drive and you have a hall of famer right thurr.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:29 pm
What is Bibby doing with his passes. just gave the ball away
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
11:29 pm
if Joe can make a conscious effort to drive the ball so can Josh..
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:29 pm
wtf is going on…
Randolph
January 4th, 2011
11:30 pm
Horford is having a nightmare of a game shooting the ball. A lot his shots have been good too, they’re just rimming out.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:31 pm
Hawks are out-hustling the hapless kings.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
11:33 pm
Honest, you do realize Josh went 20 pts (8-11), 13 reb, 5 ast, and 2 blocks compared to Milsap’s 11 pts, 6 reb, and 1 assist the last time the Hawks played the Jazz?
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:34 pm
lol@josh cryin face
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
11:34 pm
i see why he doesnt..
just go hard left Josh..
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:35 pm
all that and joe missed
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:37 pm
Not one of Horford’s best games, on either end of the floor. Good thing it’s coming against a sh-tty team.
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:37 pm
choke…
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:38 pm
Hawks are asleep on defense
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:41 pm
That last “awful shot” by Tyreke Evans is one Joe took at least 5 times per game last year.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
11:44 pm
Its so refreshing to hear Walton call the game.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:44 pm
I just don’t understand this lack of rotations for the Hawks on the front end of a back to back
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:46 pm
Another Woody-esque game when it comes to minutes distribution. Jamal and Mo are the only bench players with double figure minutes.
Ron
January 4th, 2011
11:46 pm
I don’t know what’s up with Horford tonight. He’s missing shots that he seems to make in his sleep. I wonder if it has anything to do with his hand or he’s just having an off-night shooting the ball. If he would have made those bunnies that he missed, we’d probably be up by 20+ points right now.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:47 pm
Hawks actually getting some respect from officials. Nice phantom foul call there. Kings fans have every right to boo.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:49 pm
give me a break Mo.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:51 pm
Zaza with a… dunk?
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:51 pm
omggg zaza
bigdave
January 4th, 2011
11:52 pm
Jamal is playing out his mind right now..
as if he’s found a complete game..
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:53 pm
HEy Samuel, the Kings announcers are really impressed with the motion in the Hawks offense.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
11:54 pm
Rev, the Kings announcers are impressed with everything the Hawks are doing, even the defense.
J.J.M
January 4th, 2011
11:56 pm
come on josh dunk that thang
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:56 pm
nice game for zaza
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
11:57 pm
Damien deserves more minutes.
Melvin
January 4th, 2011
11:57 pm
up 20 with 7mins left take Josh out…
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
11:59 pm
still no teague in a blowout on the road with the Jazz tomorrow night.
Melvin
January 5th, 2011
12:00 am
Up 20 with 6 mins left on the front end of a back to back, take Josh and Jamal out…
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:00 am
Worst team in the NBA!!! Yawn… Lets watch the Hawks lose by 25 in LA to the Lakers every time…Sund start packing this Summer..
J.J.M
January 5th, 2011
12:01 am
lmao get josh out
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
12:02 am
LMAO @ the last two Kings possessions. Wow.
bigdave
January 5th, 2011
12:02 am
gotta love Demarcus Cousins..
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:03 am
come on ISO Joe. Let those jumpers rip!! Ya’ll need to beat this team by 35 tonight.. Josh just sit your a@@ down so you dont screw things up…
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
12:04 am
Yea I’m a bit suprised Teague hasnt come in at all in this game.
Melvin
January 5th, 2011
12:05 am
Why is Jamal and Josh still in the game? What is LD trying to prove?
J.J.M
January 5th, 2011
12:06 am
smh the bench scrubs
J.J.M
January 5th, 2011
12:07 am
this is why josh and jamal are still in the game
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:07 am
Can anybody guess how much Utah beats the Hawks by tonight?? 10,15,18,20+? DWILL is going to put on a show and light up the Hawks guards..
thank you Billy Knight…U genius…………………not….
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
12:08 am
Nevermind, Teague’s in…now.
Melvin
January 5th, 2011
12:08 am
oh well, Jamal turnover will cause the starters to come back in…
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
12:12 am
What a shot by Joe!
bigdave
January 5th, 2011
12:13 am
Cousins can handle down in traffic..
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
12:13 am
Cousins looked like sh-t for the first three quarters, but in this last quarter he has kinda shown what made him the #5 pick. Say what you want about his attitude or defense, but his raw offensive talent is as good as anyone in the league.
bigdave
January 5th, 2011
12:13 am
co-sign..
he can flat out play.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:14 am
HAWKS SUCK!!!! Only up 7 on this team???Are you kidding?? Chicago is lickin their chops SUND!! Get ready dude…..
bigdave
January 5th, 2011
12:16 am
Al just let him have it.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
12:16 am
23-8 run for the Kings. Major league choke job by the Hawks in this one, regardless of the outcome.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:16 am
Hawks only up 5. They look rattled…U think??
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
12:18 am
Nique talking about this game like it’s over already.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:18 am
The Bulls have won 5 in a row…UH Oh….
Van
January 5th, 2011
12:19 am
This Hawks team is exceedingly boring and predictable.
If only college ball wasn’t terrible.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
12:23 am
Kings going crazy from 3 in this last minute. Good thing the Hawks are getting the ball in the hands of people who can knock down free throws.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:24 am
Sund says this team has improved! He knows they have the 28th easiest schedule in the NBA up to this point…He does not believe that bull cause if he does I’ll sell him the Brooklyn bridge..
HAWKS UP BY 4 LOUSY points!!
yodaddy
January 5th, 2011
12:25 am
Lack of focus lets mediocre/horrible teams gain confidence versus the Hawks….when I turned the hawks were up by like 18
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:26 am
more iso Joe tonight if they want to beat the Jazz. Come on Allstar Joe!
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:26 am
Whoever says Jamal is redundant or not needed, knows nothing about basketball.
He is one of the most brilliant scorers in this league and has dominated these last few games. Try get the guy for 7 or 8 M a year with a new contract. He’s worth far more
yodaddy
January 5th, 2011
12:28 am
Kings scored 39 in the 4th….this is simply unacceptable
SteveW
January 5th, 2011
12:28 am
Major choke job by the Hawks. Up by 20 with under 6 minutes left. Barely hang on.
Tried to tell you Bibby vs Tyreke was not a good match up. Almost cost us the game.
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
12:29 am
Yodaddy, it was the bench who allowed the Kings to get back in the game. Zaza couldn’t guard Cousins. So by the time the starters came back in (reluctantly) Cousins and Evans had heated up.
SteveW
January 5th, 2011
12:29 am
But we did get Teague in for 8 seconds tonight. Good job LD. Glad the Hawks won, no matter how ugly. Why can’t we blow a team out?
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:29 am
This is a shot across the bow for Sund..This team is a train wreck waiting to happen in April. Just watch…..
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:31 am
Hawks cant blow anybody out because they arent talented enough…That simple
SteveW
January 5th, 2011
12:31 am
Up 20 with 6 minutes left, we should have been able to play Teague, JC2, Wilkens, Etan, and ZaZa and still won by 10+.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:32 am
LOL. This is all LD’s fault. If he knew what SHOT SELECTION meant, he’d know that our shot selection was pretty bad the whole night. The guy panics, puts the starters back in, and like the first 5 shots we take are heavily contested 2s or 3s. Great coaching!
Didn’t even use Teague tonight (except for those 5 seconds he was in)
Pathetic coaching
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
12:33 am
Got 40 points from Jamal on my NBA Pick-One-Challenge.
Wish they doubled the points for bench guys.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:33 am
Where the hell is Josh Powell? Where was Jeff Teague? Should Mo have played all those minutes?
Absolutely pathetic coaching
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:34 am
ASG is so smug. They act like this win tonight was impressive. They probably think we’re even that much more amazing since our brilliant #2 overall player was out
Worst ownership/front office in sports
SteveW
January 5th, 2011
12:34 am
Man, ended up having to play our starters too much with a game later today. In a different time zone.
DeRon is probably licking his chops to go against Bibby after the Tyreke show.
Good job Jamal and JJ!
It’s going to be Jamal and Jason Terry fighting each other for 6th man of the year honors again. Jamal has come on strong. And that was the best JJ has shot in a long time % wise.
SteveW
January 5th, 2011
12:37 am
Kept having that bad feeling up by 20 in the 4th. If we’d of lost the game, wow, what would have happened. I wonder if LD is yelling at the team right now?
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
12:38 am
SteveW, Joe had me dreaming of how he used to play last night.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:39 am
Someone PLEASE answer this question:
Who will the PG be of this team in 2 years if Teague gets no minutes now, and Bibby will be expired?
Thanks.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:40 am
The Kings dropped 37 in the last 7:35!!Ouch!!!
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
12:40 am
Free Jordan Crawford
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
12:40 am
Jeje, Pape is actually in a better situation in the D-league than Teague is here, because Pape will get consistent minutes and be able to develop.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:41 am
CLYDE, MY MAN, STOP IT WITH THE FREE JORDAN CRAWFORD ISH
PUT JORDAN IN JAMAL’S PLACE TONIGHT AND WE LOSE BY 20
THE GUY IS ONE-DIMENSIONAL. HE BRINGS NOTHING TO THIS TEAM BESIDES A GOOD LOOKING JUMPSHOT, WHICH HARDLY EVER GOES IN
DAMNIT
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
12:41 am
Our frontline defense looks real suspect
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
12:42 am
@JeJe
Your wish might come true real soon. Jamal just sky-rocketed his trade value. Maybe we get a 2 for 1 that involves a PG?
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:42 am
“Who will the PG be of this team in 2 years if Teague gets no minutes now, and Bibby will be expired?”
To save money, Sund will hire Larry Drew to run the point! He averged 14.7 pts/ 6.6 assist from 1981-1986 for the Kings..
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:45 am
DO NOT TRADE JAMAL. HE IS THE BEST SCORER ON THIS TEAM. HE IS NOT TRADEABLE. TRADE HIM FOR A STARTING PG AND WE HAVE THE WORST BENCH IN THE NBA. ONLY TRADE HIM IN A PACKAGE FOR NASH AND SOMEONE LIKE CHILDRESS
YOU CANNOT TRADE JAMAL UNLESS IT’S FOR A SCORER.
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
12:45 am
JeJe Jordan Crawford hasn’t played enough for you to say he is one dimensional. When he has played he came in scoring.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:46 am
LOL @ LARRY DREW FORMERLY BEING A PG, YET OUR PGS BLOW
LOL @ LD EMPHASIZING DEFENSE, YET OUR DEFENSE SUCKS
LOL @ LD EMPHASIZING HIS MOTION OFFENSE, YET WE JACK UP 3S AND AWFUL SHOTS ALL GAME
SMH
ASG, WAKE UP. DO SOMETHING RIGHT FOR THIS FRANCHISE
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:47 am
JeJe Jordan Crawford hasn’t played enough for you to say he is one dimensional. When he has played he came in scoring.
^^^^Jordan played with 4 min left in the 2nd qtr of the 2nd Boston game. As soon as he came in, Boston murdered us and had a lead at halftime after we dominated the entire half.
He is MUCHHHHHH better off in D-League right now. We will get roasted out there if he gets minutes. At least with Mo, even if he gets 3 layups stripped every game, he is not that bad. Jordan will screw us over badly if he gets regular minutes
Rod from College Park
January 5th, 2011
12:48 am
“Whoever says Jamal is redundant or not needed, knows nothing about basketball.
He is one of the most brilliant scorers in this league and has dominated these last few games. Try get the guy for 7 or 8 M a year with a new contract. He’s worth far more”
I totally agree JeJe.
JeJe
January 5th, 2011
12:51 am
DAMN MY 2 HOMIES ON THIS PLACE: ROD FROM CP AND CLYDE
ROD KEEPING IT REAL ABOUT MARVIN “DUCK” WILLIAMS” AND CLYDE STILL INFATUATED WITH JORDAN
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN WE GOT BIBBY 3 YRS AGO DURING THE ALL STAR BREAK, THE FIRST GAME WAS @THE LAKERS AND MARVIN DIDN’T KNOW WHY LAKERS FANS WERE BOOING BIBBY?
LOL. YOU’D THINK THAT WAS PATHETIC. THEN YOU REALIZE MARVIN DOESN’T ENJOY WATCHING BASKETBALL
SMDH
cp
January 5th, 2011
12:52 am
Really hard to tell the difference between LD and Woodson at this point. LD has went to a 8 man rotation, no player development, and some guys do as they please on the court. Not much of a difference from last year. New coach same shid. The Kings didnt look like they cared for about 3 quarters. And can we please get the Stinger back. Nique is just flat out terrible.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:58 am
Marvin was a wasted #2 pick…..DWILL will prove that tonight..Just watch this future HOF’mer operate on the perimeter..What a show he is going to perform on our Atlanta Hawks!
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
12:58 am
@JeJe
To get something good, you have to give up something good. But your right. Our bench would be horrible, making our team horrible. Jamal > Marvin. But you know what JeJe, there’s still hope.
Drew said he’s considering making the big line up, his regular line up. If thats the case, then Marvin would come off the bench. With luck, Marvin might “demand” a trade. With that…Sund might pull off a miracle like he did with Jamal.
Borderline fantasy, but realistic enough!
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
1:13 am
The only thing we could get for Marvin right now is Acie Law
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
1:15 am
If I were Drew I would use this lineup
Bibby
Jamal
Joe
Jsmoove
Collins
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
1:19 am
I know its not possible. But does anyone think OKC would take Horford for Westbrook? And this doesn’t have anything to do with tonight. Been thinking about that deal for a good while now.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
1:26 am
“I know its not possible. But does anyone think OKC would take Horford for Westbrook?”
No way. The league is drifting towards being a PG-oriented league, and a team with a dominant PG is never going to trade him for a PF, even one as good as Horford. I’m not sure Horford is even as good as Westbrook regardless of position.
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
1:27 am
Najeh, I agree with you. Yet you must admit it is an interesting concept. And it makes you wonder, if you could acquire a young, all star caliber point guard for an All Star center (Horford) would it be worth it for this team.
rusty
January 5th, 2011
1:29 am
je je your not to bright if you think mo is better than jc2 right now. Ld your an idiot
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
1:30 am
“Whoever says Jamal is redundant or not needed, knows nothing about basketball.
He is one of the most brilliant scorers in this league and has dominated these last few games. Try get the guy for 7 or 8 M a year with a new contract. He’s worth far more”
I don’t disagree with any of this, but if you look at the Hawks’ salary cap situation, it’s hard to see how they can improve personnel in any way shape or form without dealing Jamal. The fact is that with the way the roster is constructed, with the surplus at SG and the lack of depth at other positions, he remains the Hawks’ most attractive trade chip.
And like you mentioned, he’s not going to be cheap this offseason either. Do you have any confidence in the ability of Sund and the DASG to re-sign him if they don’t trade him? I don’t.
Ramon
January 5th, 2011
1:33 am
Could Jamal have picked up his play of late, because he’s realistically in danger of losing his sixth man status, now that Marvin will be coming off the bench also? If Marvin comes in and get you 15-16, 7 rebs, and solid defense, how does Marvin not become the first off of the bench?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
1:33 am
“And it makes you wonder, if you could acquire a young, all star caliber point guard for an All Star center (Horford) would it be worth it for this team.”
If you’re talking about someone as young and as good as Westbrook, I’d do it in a heartbeat. I’d trade any single player on this team for Westbrook. I’ve always chimed in on the “trade Horford or Smoove for a real center” argument by saying I’d only trade one or the other if the Hawks were getting someone who was as good or better. Well, Westbrook is better, in my opinion. He’d be worth that deal.
Ryan
January 5th, 2011
1:38 am
I’d trade Smoove before Al or Marvin. Hawks have dead weight and the money could be spent else where. We have a ton of big men that we dont use. Like 5 of our players get dnp or 3 mins a night. Mo evans could be gotten rid of and let JC2 play, Zaza could be gotten rid of and let one of the other bigs play, get rid of bibby and let Teague play. Lots of cheaper options. The Spirit is spending money…just not in the right places.
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
1:42 am
I wonder if Sund thought about resigning Crawford when he gave Joe all that money.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 5th, 2011
1:45 am
“I’d trade Smoove before Al or Marvin.”
Before Al, sure. Before Marvin? Rick Sund should get down on his hands and knees and thank his maker if someone is willing to give the Hawks something useful for Marvin.
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
1:47 am
“The Spirit is spending money…just not in the right places.”
Marvin is the fourth highest player on the team at a lil over 7 mill a year.
SHAKING MY GOT DAM HEAD
Clyde
January 5th, 2011
2:01 am
Wilson Chandler is only making 2 mill this year and to me he needs to make the all star team this year.
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
January 5th, 2011
3:06 am
NEW MOVIE ABOUT THE ATLANTA HAWKS PLAYER WHO REFUSED TO COME OUT OF HIS SHELL!!!!
Check out the link for the movie poster. Support indie films (in association with ASG of course!)
http://s124.photobucket.com/albums/p22/soullrenaissance/?action=view¤t=Marvin_The_Duck_film.jpg
EmirS.
January 5th, 2011
4:08 am
I dont think you can trade Smoove before Al or Marvin or even anyone else. He gives us to much defense. A very decent amount of assists, good points, rebounds, tremendous shot blocking, low post defense, perimeter defense, and (something that I think is very important) explosivness…that jump starts our crowd and his teammates. There is’nt anyone else on this team that can do even a majority of that. Ofcourse he makes quite a bit more mistakes. Shot selection at times is very awful, temper, basketball I.Q. is sometimes below average. And I know we *ALL* go ballistic when he messes up, but we all know we need him.
Now, I’m not saying he’s untouchable, but like Najeh said, if we are able to get someone just as good or better then go for it. But we’d either have to get a PF or C in return. But…once again, that PF or C has to be just as good or better.
Ryan
January 5th, 2011
4:27 am
he only gives help defense. He isnt that great 1 on 1 D. Marvin wouldnt give you any value and is decent enough, though over paid. Josh would get us a good center or PG however and I wouldnt have to watch the bone head look on his face every time he puts up a dumb shot and gets in trouble for it.
slimjr
January 5th, 2011
12:00 pm
Jettison the Core Scottie! Make it so!!