Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 107, Clippers 98
Los Angeles–I’ll leave it to L.D. to sum this one up: “Our defense stiffened up the second half, we started making shots, Joe got into a rhythm, Jamal was Jamal and then Josh Smith made a couple 3s down the stretch.”
- It’s not a winning strategy in the big picture, or even in one-offs against teams better than the Clippers, but it worked today. Perhaps the Hawks can learn a lesson in victory.
- “It was a 12:30 game,” Josh said. “People still had to wake up. I still was in my bed a little bit until I got it going. Everybody got it going. Jamal was a big lift off the bench. He was able to keep the game close with his scoring.”
- Jamal was efficient and explosive for the second game in a row. “People don’t understand,” he said. “I saw Melo’s quote, he missed five games and he said his legs felt like bricks. It just takes time to get your timing and stuff back. You are in such a rhythm of what’s going on, if anything breaks that it just takes time to get it back.”
- J.J. had his highest-scoring game since he had 34 points against the Suns on Nov. 7. He did it mostly by physically abusing the Clippers’ smallish guards and making 14 of 17 free throws. “We wanted to take advantage of the mismatch and either make them double team, score or get fouled,” he said.
- Joe still managed to get up 20 shots, missing 13. Jamal got 13 attempts, Al eight and Bibby got six. All made at least half their attempts.
- There was some vintage Iso-Joe in the fourth quarter, when he made 3 of 6 shots. “Just as soon as that elbow heals at 100 percent, he will be back into form,” L.D. said.
- The Hawks were a mess defensively in the first half. I don’t have to tell you the problem. “In the first half we were hurt by our pick-and-roll coverages,” Drew said. “We made some adjustments with that.”
- I’m trying to remember a time when the Hawks weren’t hurt by their pick-and-roll coverages and exactly what adjustments can be made given their personnel. It’s not something that figures to get much better, particularly against faster teams like the Clippers.
- It’s repetitive to watch the Hawks get beat off the dribble, leading to open jumpers, drive-and-dishes for high-percentage shots, or putbacks because Atlanta’s bigs are constantly helping. There’s just no way for the Hawks to consistently stop good teams that way in the kind of possession-by-possession games that come in the playoffs.
- It’s also tough for the Hawks to beat good teams when they have little post presence offensively. Josh jacking up jumpers doesn’t help with that, but he made two timely 3-pointers in this game. “I was open, my teammates got me the ball,” he said. “I stepped into my shots. In the first half, I was fading away.”
- Al was limited 17 minutes in the first half because of the two-foul rule. He had a tough time finding space inside against DeAndre Jordan but two shot attempts in 20 second-half minutes isn’t enough.
- Teague played nine minutes. He put up three shots in four first-half minutes and made them all. Passing didn’t seem to be much of a thought.
- Baron Davis got past Teague a couple times. Eric Gordon also got around him to feed Blake Griffin for a layup. Teague tends to give too much ground even as he stays in front of his man, but he gives the Hawks a fighting chance since they don’t have to scramble to help him on every possession.
- Zaza gave the Hawks a lift defensively. They needed that with all of the Clippers’ long bodies and quick guards looking to score at the basket.
- Damien Wilkins was solid in four minutes. He’s usually a net positive as long as his shot attempts are near the basket.
- Griffin had a couple big dunks early. His final stat line looked good (31 points, 15 rebounds, 11 of 22 field goals) but he was quiet at winning time. “He probably has to be the most exciting player in the game right now,” Smoove said. “He’s that impressive.”
- Smoove began the game with an extra headband to hold in place a bandage for the cut he suffered Friday at Oklahoma City. He shed the second headband after halftime because it put too much pressure on his head.
“I just rolled the first one up and hoped I didn’t get hit in the head,” he said.
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Ken Strickland
January 4th, 2011
12:41 am
It’s amazing how some claim Teague shouldn’t be allowed to start because he doesn’t have a consistent jumpshot, when it’s obvious to everyone else that DEFENSE is our biggest problem. And Bibby certainly isn’t the answer for improving anyone’s DEF.
I was corrected earlier, and rightfully so, about Teague being a scorer, not a shooter. With his speed, quickness, athleticism, scoring ability, ability to penetrate and get to the FT line, ability to generate more assists per min than Bibby, and the improvement he adds defensively, how can we continue hurting ourselves with Bibby’s numerous short comings just because Teague doesn’t shoot the 3 as well as Bibby?
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
12:51 am
SteveW, I think its the opposite of being favoritism to Josh. I just think I value the game different then many. I see a lot of times when Josh should drive the ball instead of settling for the jumper. But as I’ve said before, who on the Hawks team doesn’t do that? Just about everyone on the team takes too many jumpers. Zaza may be the only player who doesn’t.
Also I value defense more than offense. If Josh makes 2 or 3 bad plays on offense with the ball. But every other starter makes 3 or 4 misreads on defense that leads to the opposition scoring. I think Josh had the better game. If your main focus is stopping the opponent from scoring 90 points, you don’t need to score 105 points. And I speak about the positive things about Josh because so many only concentrate on the negative. And fail to realize Josh is part of what’s right with this team, and not what’s wrong. Josh gets an attitude for over 2 seasons because he kept insisting the back court go through the front court on offense. How many times did Sekou comment about Josh being mad that the guards weren’t sharing the ball? If every great coach says to feed the post first, how do people turn and say Josh doesn’t have basketball IQ when Josh is clearly the leader on defense. Kobe pouted for 2 seasons and it got him Gasol. Josh pouts and it gets him people saying he doesn’t want to win. Lebron pouts every time the referees don’t pucker up. Amare pouts every other play. Barkley pouted his entire career. K. Malone walked around with an attitude and stayed on the referees as much as anyone not named Rodman. There are so many great players who have attitudes and are moody that its crazy to fuss about one being so.
slimjr
January 4th, 2011
12:54 am
Bibby shoots light years better than Teague and we have a weak a@@ #3 in Duck(critical scoring position) in the NBA today, LD needs some scoring from somebody else besides Joe and JC1. Bibby may have the most accurate jump shot on the Hawks at this time..Josh disappears like his “brother Duck” from time to time on offense to keep the Hawks from becoming contenders against the elites… The train wreck is coming… keep watching…
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
12:55 am
Drmaryb, also there have been many times when Joe hasn’t made any effort to get back on a breakaway when he could have caught the player. To be honest, Marvin hustles more than Joe does. (not saying Marvin is better, but he does hustle more). Joe was the first one to give up last season, because he didn’t even decide to show up in the playoffs. Its almost like Leslie Nielson replaced Joe with a robot, lol.
slimjr
January 4th, 2011
12:58 am
You can’t win championships with a dude like Josh and his stinking attitude..His offensive skills do not match his HUGE ego..
Josh for Rudy yesterday….
Boooo!
January 4th, 2011
1:18 am
Jaron Collins was waived by the clippers today. Twin X 2 anyone? Two 7 footers would be awesome. Especially against teams like Boston and ORL.
Boooo!
January 4th, 2011
1:19 am
*Jarron
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
1:23 am
Add Jarron and waive Thomas, I’m for it. Jarron was always the better defensive one of the brothers.
drmaryb (*_*)
January 4th, 2011
2:57 am
Ramon
When you lock-down the other teams Superstar and guard 3 positions, and draw double-triple teams, all while being booed? Sometimes, you have to pace yourself.
Joe is a human being not a trade-machine. Normally, he also brings the ball up on offense, while Bibby is resting and he is playing 48 minutes per night.
Hell, just three years ago Joe lead the entire NBA in minutes played, that was the first play-offs in 13 years!
___________________________
Geez! How soon the in grates forget how gawd awful these Hawks were.
Where is the Logic? Where does the arrogant fan come from?
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
4:37 am
These comments are like a broken record. Every game regardless of the result the same people say the same sh-t regardless of how well the sh-t they say matches up with the facts. Oh well.
Najeh Davenpoop
January 4th, 2011
4:44 am
“It’s amazing how some claim Teague shouldn’t be allowed to start because he doesn’t have a consistent jumpshot, when it’s obvious to everyone else that DEFENSE is our biggest problem.”
I’m a Teague fan, but his problems go beyond just not shooting well consistently. He is too tentative on offense and doesn’t fully understand when to attack, when to defer, when to take the shot, when to drive, etc. yet. Even in the previous game, there was one possession where he passed up an open shot to drive, not realizing that the shot clock was at 4, and when his driving lane got cut off he passed it out to the perimeter — and by that time the shot clock had expired.
Of course, as I said often last year, he’s not going to learn these things by sitting on the bench, and it’s important to give him the regular playing time necessary so he can gain confidence and improve the mental aspect of his game. It’s asking a lot for LD to let him play through these mistakes and potentially waste possessions in a close game, but on the flip side, if he doesn’t get that chance he’s never going to develop.
To be honest, something that would force LD’s hand, like an injury to Bibby or Jamal, is probably what’s going to get Teague the regular playing time he needs to either develop into a reliable rotation player or prove that he ain’t got it. Ultimately it comes back to Sund and the unbalanced roster he has constructed.
KevinM
January 4th, 2011
4:47 am
I see those who are wondering why aren’t the Lakers getting criticism like the Hawks……ummm, don’t the Lakers deserve a pass because they simply have beaten everyone in the league when it counts?
The way these Hawks play, there is no way they can just flip a switch like the Lakers or even Boston. They don’t know how to be a championship team.
This team is at its peak IMO; winning a game in the 2nd round doesn’t constitute improvement. You lose JC1 from this roster, you have no points off the bench…especially when Marvin starts and he feels like he deserves that slot no matter the results.
JoJo the Godfather
January 4th, 2011
6:04 am
Pape Sy having an awful time in his first couple d-league games…1 for 9 from field, and averaging 3 assists & 4 turnovers per game.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
6:54 am
JoJo,
Thanks for the Pape update. I’ve been curious how he is doing.
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
7:32 am
JJ has the potential to be All NBA defense if he put his mind to it. But to my naked eye, it looks like he takes plays off sometimes.
And I don’t blame him. Part of it is because he has to save his energy to play a lot of minutes and handle the bulk of the offensive load.
Plus he gets stuck guarding Bibby’s guy a lot, and sometimes he even guards Marvin’s guy, so he is not able to exert himself defensively every possession. He has to pick his spots.
Marvin is a good defender, but we need him to become a great defender, so he can take more of the defensive pressure off JJ.
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
7:41 am
Ken S,
Bibby was not given the starting PG keys this season. LD said (over the offseason) that the PG job is there for the taking, but Teague was unable to take it (for various reasons).
If you compare Teague’s game to Jordan’s game there is quite a difference. When Jordan (the rookie) comes into the game, he has no problems taking his shots, regardless of who is on the court with him. He is aggressive and confident immediately.
Teague, on the other hand, seems very passive and unsure of himself. He has to find it within himself (which is one reason LD hired Nick Van Exel) to me more aggressive and more assertive.
As for next year’s PG situation, keep in mind that even with Jamal and Mo Evans off the books, the Hawks still have $64 mil committed in salary for next season already.
And the consensus is that there will be a new CBA with lower salary cap and a lower luxury tax threshold.
So next year, we will be looking at an older Bibby and hopefully an improved Teague as our PGs again.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
7:42 am
O’brien, I didn’t say I don’t understand Joe doing it. But Drmaryb questioned the fact that Joe doesn’t take plays off. As I said before, when the game starts, its something about Josh (a positive that is so many times negative, because you see all that he is doing) that catches your attention and leaves you watching everything he’s doing rather on offense or defense. Many of these fans only watch two players on the court, that’s Josh and whoever has the ball at the time. Its apparent because they don’t see many of the things on the defense where majority of the players are making more errors than Josh makes on offense.
dap01
January 4th, 2011
7:43 am
This team has peaked with Bibby at the controls. The only hope for improvement is to change the dynamics and let Teague develop.
With Bibby, we have peaked. At least with Teague there is hope for improvement.
Shooting 3’s is not a staple of championship basketball. Defense and speed for our athletic wings are.
Larry Drew needs to start coaching like he talks.
ant banks
January 4th, 2011
7:48 am
blake griffin is what jsmoove was supposed to be
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
7:50 am
Ant banks, Griffin is taller and bigger than Josh. Lets see how much Griffin’s game changes in 6 seasons. As I said the other day, that style of play puts a lot of wear and tear on your body.
KevinM
January 4th, 2011
8:12 am
OB, now did you have to go and ruin my hopes for 2011 this early? Saying that we keep the same PGs next year just burns me up. This duo does not complement each other, we all know that. It is going to take a major overhaul to convince this blog that this can be a contending team.
Has Marvin now had enough of a shot to show you what he is?
How Bibby continues to ward off all the young guns is amazing.
While the Knicks point out they want more PG and C depth, you hear nothing from this group and probably because they are content with the roster more than even we speculate. The harmony of the front office must be painful to deal with on an internal basis. Not that the Knicks are doing anything special for the long haul, they at least are able to know that lots of the league wouldn’t mind playing in ‘historic’ MSG.
Double Zero Eight
January 4th, 2011
9:15 am
The Hawks have been rebuilding for the past 12 years.
They still have not made it to the conference finals.
The current team is not capable of making it to the
conference finals either. They can be entertaining
at times, but are not an elite team. That’s the
“ugly truth”,
niremetal
January 4th, 2011
9:40 am
JJ and Jamal are #1 and #2 on the team in FTAs/gm. And they aren’t exactly getting there all the time. Al is getting to the line less frequently than Marvin. We’re also 27th in the league in ORebs/gm. Methinks there’s a connection there. We’re actually 14th in the league in DRebs/gm, but our ORebs are so terrible that we’re 24th in rebounding overall.
By comparison, we were 6th in the NBA in ORebs last year. Most of the dropoff is traceable to Josh and Al. Josh and Al are averaging 1.5 fewer ORebs/gm than last year; the team as a whole is averaging 2.4 fewer.
Al’s jumper looks great, and Josh’s is much improved. But their fondness for shooting jumpers is having a lot of bad downstream effects.
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
9:44 am
It’s funny how LD emphasized defense all throughout training camp, yet our defense has been horrendous most of the season
It’s also funny how he keeps emphasizing this motion offense, yet there’s no movement
Fundamentals
January 4th, 2011
9:54 am
You got a point there JeJe
Good to hear the Sy update. At least he’s playing. Give him time.
Another Twin? He’d be better than Etan, but not the answer.
The love of the jumpshot and “shotmaking” is what’s killing this team. Play tenacious D, rebound on both ends, attack the basket and all else will come.
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
9:56 am
Jeje, I would love to sit in on a film session with the team to see what is said about previous games.
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:03 am
I bet the Hawks will do what they always do:
Lose against an awful team tonight then win the 2nd of a b2b tomorrow against a tough Utah team
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
10:04 am
Jeje, I say the Hawks win both games! I’m calling it here and now. Atlanta will win both games and go 3-1 on the road trip.
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:05 am
Jeje, I would love to sit in on a film session with the team to see what is said about previous games.
That’s where you want someone like Kobe pointing out things to everyone (if you ever hear Kobe on the bench in in-game microphone segments, you know what I mean).
I bet the film session, LD tries to yell at the guys, but Josh Smith starts crying and everyone else is already reticent, so no one is receptive
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:07 am
Ramon, if we win both these games, we then got IND, MIL, TOR, HOU, SAC.
There’s no reason AT ALL we can’t win all these games.
A bit worried about Indy though because we always destroy them, so hopefully they don’t steal one from us.
We have an 8 game winning streak (including Sunday’s win) within arm’s reach if we take care of biz. Then it gets rough
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:08 am
Also, is Chicago ever going to lose again?
How does a team with Joakim Noah out and no shooting guard win so many damn games? Every time I look, they’ve won.
It’s a matter of time before Boozer gets hurt again
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:11 am
Not entirely sure how the scheduling works, but I’m sure teams like Chicago and NYK, in horrific divisions, can inflate their records since they play their division teams 4 times each, whereas we are in a rough division and get to play some of those teams only 3 times.
Maybe a few extra wins for them which will be huge come April
FIRE SUND
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:12 am
*It seems some teams in your conference you only play 3 times a year. So we get to play some of those teams (like a Cleveland) only 3 times
Ramon
January 4th, 2011
10:16 am
Jeje, believe it or not, Kobe used to be a lot like Josh personality wise. Actually if you look at their attitudes in both 6-7th seasons, you will see they’re eerily close. Kobe actually used to give Lakers’ fans even as much of a headache as Josh does. Kobe (and Garnett) used to bark at teammates. But on defense you can see Josh coaching them guys up on what to do and where they’re supposed to be. I would bet Josh and Joe are the two main players who knows where everyone is supposed to be on defense.
Rev in Tampa
January 4th, 2011
10:20 am
Its time for the Hawks to roll with Teague (Pick & Roll, that is).
Teague loves to shoot that runner close to the rim and all he needs is a step to use his qickness to get there. So why not use he and Al the way other teams pick & roll at will against the Hawks.
This also gives Al the opportunity to roll (after he picks) to his mid-range sweet spot. If Teague gets into the paint he can dish to Josh when the defense collapses around him, pass out to the wings or flip the ball to Al.
Isn’t this what we are looking for in a point guard? And it is a given that our fastbreak offense will improve with Teague in the game, our perimeter defense will improve, and, by extension, our overall defense will greatly improve.
The reason I am writing this is to counter all those who say that Teague needs to stay on the bench because he cannot shoot the ball consistently. Does he need to shoot the ball if he can get into the lane and make the offense run from the inside out?
KevinM
January 4th, 2011
10:24 am
As much as I would like to see ’someone’ make a decision to make this team a legit playoff contender, because you can’t say championship until you’ve at least won a 2nd round playoff game, we could be putting up with T-Wolve GM David Kahn and his backing of their all-to-famous big man Milicic. He is propping him up for great things to come next year…think Sund still sees Marvin in the same light?
KevinM
January 4th, 2011
10:37 am
Rev, your statement “Does he need to shoot the ball if he can get into the lane and make the offense run from the inside out?” is what I have been wishing for for too long now…
This team needs to go inside instead of continued dribble-the-ball til its flat approach. There is more and more standing around on offense as the season progresses.
Our highlights on SportsCenter the rare times we are on there? We are shooting jumpers.
KevinM
January 4th, 2011
10:41 am
Words from Gearon and his partner Levenson are out now on Hawks.com….here are their words of thanks and their hope for our support going forward:
HAPPY NEW YEAR
As we begin 2011, we wanted to take time to express our appreciation for your support of the Hawks and the Thrashers, and to look forward to what the future can have in store for us.
We are fortunate to have had your support during a very unique set of circumstances and we thank you for sticking with our teams through it all.
The Hawks are the only current team in the NBA that has improved five years in a row and we’re excited about how the team has performed under Coach Drew’s new offense. We reshaped the Thrashers over the last year with a new, aggressive, gritty style of hockey, and we are proud of Coach Ramsay and our young team which is receiving recognition throughout the NHL for their success on the ice.
As we look to the second halves of the 2010-2011 NBA and NHL seasons, our goals remain the same as when we bought these teams: to bring Stanley Cups and NBA Championships to the fans in Atlanta. We dream of being a part of the crowd and the city that rallies with pride around the excitement that comes with being a part of the hometown team.
The players say that nothing gets them going more than the roar of the crowd, the crowd that so many of you have been a part of with us. So we cheer. And shout. And roar. Come roar with us. Come be part of the dream.
We hope your holidays were joyous and that you have a great New Year.
Bruce and Michael
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
10:59 am
LOL @ those comments by ASG.
We’ve improved 5 years in a row…Boo-hoo.
What have we done in the playoffs?
Gone to two 7 game series against far inferior teams and been embarrassed in 8 2nd round games.
LET’S KEEP THE CORE! IT’S REALLY WORKING! THE TEAM LOOKS GREAT THIS YEAR! WE’VE ONLY THROWN AWAY ABOUT 8 GAMES!
FIRE SUND
FIRE ASG
Mike is back
January 4th, 2011
11:03 am
Drmaryb, what up Dawg…I hear ya…some cats can seriously push the envelope with their extraordinary trade proposals…can’t say I really blame them THOUGH…when all you hear from Sund and ASG group is…WE LIKE OUR CORE…it’s driving my fellow bloggers…INSANE…Heck, I’m starting slip too!!!!LOL
The trade deadline may finally bear us some fruit… I think something is in the mix…DANG…How many times have I said THAT…O well…I digress…at lease we know Ole Je Je…is perfectly sane…Right!!heh heh
Anyway…Go LD…Go Josh…Go Teague…And Go Hawks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kwooden1
January 4th, 2011
11:03 am
JoJo, just watched part of Papa’s game last night and part of the last game. (NBA.com) His shot doesn’t look great and he was a turnover machine last night. But overall his defense is solid and his ball handling doesn’t look that bad. He’s actually a lot faster than I could tell from the Summer league games, he’s just not a high flyer. From the two games I’ve seen the D-League is definitely more competative than the Summer League, so I think this will be a very good experience for him. He’s not a guy that can help the team this year, but if he can really improve he would be a very unique PG if that’s where they hope to use him.
Mike is back
January 4th, 2011
11:21 am
Rev in Tampa, definitely agree with your 10:20 am post…I always envision Teague as a good pick & roll guy too…I don’t want him taking a bunch of jumps shots…I want him penetrating and dishing the rock…I think Teague could be a double digit assist guy with his quickness and speed.
Before someone tees off on me…I’m not implying Teague’s game is polished enough…to give you 10 plus dimes at this point in his career…However, I do believe the talent and potential is there…our problems is we have too many vets…that duplicate each other…that’s not the youngster fault.
Good Stuff Rev…Peace Out!!!
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
12:01 pm
Have LD or Woody in past years made suggestions to Sund on changes needed?
I didn’t feel like the Ja-Craw trade was NEEDED. It was just a good trade in that we got rid of 2 scrubs for a player better than Flip Murray.
Has LD gone to Sund/ASG and told them our PGs blow?
Probably not since the guy is in love with Bibby (and Mo Evans too)
WE NEED A PG
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
12:20 pm
How many years has Rondo been in the league? And his jump shot is still a huge weakness (teams will leave him open all the time).
Tony Parker’s first few years, he was forbidden from taking 3’s, because his shot was bad. His coach wanted him getting in the paint.
We have been spoiled by Bibby and his jump shots, but that is not all there is to being a good PG. Teague can still contribute even if he doesnt have a good jumper.
He is not there yet, but if his defense ever catches up with his speed, watch out. And he has the potential to be a good assist guy too. Give the guy some time…
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
12:23 pm
Mike is Back,
It looks like we are on the same page as far as Teague is concerned.
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
12:28 pm
“The Hawks are the only current team in the NBA that has improved five years in a row and we’re excited about how the team has performed under Coach Drew’s new offense.” ASG .
What the ASG is missing, is that we still struggle to score points in the fourth quarter against good teams.
Also, last year we won 53 games. Does anyone think this Hawks team will win 54 or more? Because if not, then it is not an improvement (based on their way of looking at it).
And if LD does not win a game or two in the second round, I think he will be on the hot seat next year.
And if he goes, maybe the ASG will give the job to Ty Hill next…
JeJe
January 4th, 2011
12:31 pm
“And if LD does not win a game or two in the second round, I think he will be on the hot seat next year.”
What difference would it make if he’s on the hot seat or not?
He is on a 2 year contract and is making minimum wage. ASG would not pay any other coach worth a damn to come here
Mike is back
January 4th, 2011
12:35 pm
OB, yes we are…my thing is…I’m not saying play Teague because he’s our only option…I’m saying play dude…because he has the talent and skill to adequately fill in at that position…and we still have Bibby to run the team for a another season…just him ready or get somebody ready now!!!
Mike is back
January 4th, 2011
12:40 pm
Niremetal, I agree with that assessment…just seems like Josh is the one that shoulders most of the blame on the blog.
O'Brien
January 4th, 2011
12:55 pm
JeJe,
ASG would probably promote one of LD’s assistants.
“The players say that nothing gets them going more than the roar of the crowd, the crowd that so many of you have been a part of with us. So we cheer. And shout. And roar. Come roar with us.” ASG .
That’s not what JJ said. He said he doesn’t care if we show up. Ain’t that right, Section 303?