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Atlanta Hawks: Hawks 107, Clippers 98

8:56 pm January 2, 2011, by Michael Cunningham

Los Angeles–I’ll leave it to L.D. to sum this one up: “Our defense stiffened up the second half, we started making shots, Joe got into a rhythm, Jamal was Jamal and then Josh Smith made a couple 3s down the stretch.”

  • It’s not a winning strategy in the big picture, or even in one-offs against teams better than the Clippers, but it worked today. Perhaps the Hawks can learn a lesson in victory.
  • “It was a 12:30 game,” Josh said. “People still had to wake up. I still was in my bed a little bit until I got it going. Everybody got it going. Jamal was a big lift off the bench. He was able to keep the game close with his scoring.”
  • Jamal was efficient and explosive for the second game in a row. “People don’t understand,” he said. “I saw Melo’s quote, he missed five games and he said his legs felt like bricks. It just takes time to get your timing and stuff back. You are in such a rhythm of what’s going on, if anything breaks that it just takes time to get it back.”
  • J.J. had his highest-scoring game since he had 34 points against the Suns on Nov. 7. He did it mostly by physically abusing the Clippers’ smallish guards and making 14 of 17 free throws. “We wanted to take advantage of the mismatch and either make them double team, score or get fouled,” he said.
  • Joe still managed to get up 20 shots, missing 13. Jamal got 13 attempts, Al eight and Bibby got six. All made at least half their attempts.
  • There was some vintage Iso-Joe in the fourth quarter, when he made 3 of 6 shots. “Just as soon as that elbow heals at 100 percent, he will be back into form,” L.D. said.
  • The Hawks were a mess defensively in the first half. I don’t have to tell you the problem. “In the first half we were hurt by our pick-and-roll coverages,” Drew said. “We made some adjustments with that.”
  • I’m trying to remember a time when the Hawks weren’t hurt by their pick-and-roll coverages and exactly what adjustments can be made given their personnel. It’s not something that figures to get much better, particularly against faster teams like the Clippers.
  • It’s repetitive to watch the Hawks get beat off the dribble, leading to open jumpers, drive-and-dishes for high-percentage shots, or putbacks because Atlanta’s bigs are constantly helping. There’s just no way for the Hawks to consistently stop good teams that way in the kind of possession-by-possession games that come in the playoffs.
  • It’s also tough for the Hawks to beat good teams when they have little post presence offensively. Josh jacking up jumpers doesn’t help with that, but he made two timely 3-pointers in this game. “I was open, my teammates got me the ball,” he said. “I stepped into my shots. In the first half, I was fading away.”
  • Al was limited 17 minutes in the first half because of the two-foul rule. He had a tough time finding space inside against DeAndre Jordan but two shot attempts in 20 second-half minutes isn’t enough.
  • Teague played nine minutes. He put up three shots in four first-half minutes and made them all. Passing didn’t seem to be much of a thought.
  • Baron Davis got past Teague a couple times. Eric Gordon also got around him to feed Blake Griffin for a layup. Teague tends to give too much ground even as he stays in front of his man, but he gives the Hawks a fighting chance since they don’t have to scramble to help him on every possession.
  • Zaza gave the Hawks a lift defensively. They needed that with all of the Clippers’ long bodies and quick guards looking to score at the basket.
  • Damien Wilkins was solid in four minutes. He’s usually a net positive as long as his shot attempts are near the basket.
  • Griffin had a couple big dunks early. His final stat line looked good (31 points, 15 rebounds, 11 of 22 field goals) but he was quiet at winning time. “He probably has to be the most exciting player in the game right now,” Smoove said. “He’s that impressive.”
  • Smoove began the game with an extra headband to hold in place a bandage for the cut he suffered Friday at Oklahoma City. He shed the second headband after halftime because it put too much pressure on his head.
    “I just rolled the first one up and hoped I didn’t get hit in the head,” he said.

Michael Cunningham

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drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
6:28 pm

Jet Terry!

Was drafted to be our PG after Mookie left. We quickly found out under Terry Stotts that Terry was NEVER gonna be a PG. We traded him to Dallas for their 10th pick and chose Acie Law that year. Before that Eric Gray?, Salim Stoudamire, now Teague:

None of these players were PG’s, and too small for SG. We were rebuilding and Terry was of No value here at that time. The Hawks needed everything from 1 to 5 and a Bench! Terry had to go and we started from scratch with Billy Knight and Joe Johnson. Dampieer and Kenyon Martin courted The Hawks but, never intended to sign, but to leverage our offer against better teams offers.

Yes, we were used by mid-level players. We Never had a Super-Star caliber player even sniff our jock, until Joe came here and none since. Joe is NOT a Super-Star, but he is the closet we have ever seen since Dikembe and Mookie.
That’s better than nothing, people. We had no choice but to resign him for that max contract! If not Joe, then who?
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News Flash! Melo, LeBron, DWade, Kobe, Shaq was NEVER gonna’ walk through that door!

O'Brien

January 3rd, 2011
6:34 pm

IMO, most bloggers are not necessarily upset with Josh taking jumpers. We are upset with when he takes the jumpers.

For example, yesterday, first possession of the game, Bibby crosses half-court, passes the ball to Josh, and he jacks up a jumper. There was probably 15 seconds left on the shot-clock. And its the first possession of the game.

Or when he gets the ball, with somebody on him…and he pump fakes once, pump fakes twice, and then shoots a jumper.

Those are the kind of shots that I dont want him taking.

If the guards break down their defender, and pass to Josh behind the arc, and he catches and shoots in rhythym, I am okay with those shots.

O'Brien

January 3rd, 2011
6:41 pm

One team is the 2 time defending NBA champions, led by proven winners (Kobe and Fisher), and a HC with 11 championships.

The other team is led by a rookie HC, and has a history of folding in the playoffs.

So which team should fans be giving the benefit of the doubt?

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
6:44 pm

OBrien

Enthusiastic Co-Sign re: Josh’s Jumpers.
Even if, he and Al are draining them? That is soft playing, because they are NOT in the paint where they belong and where this team need them to be.
At least Woodson had their asses glued to the paint for:

Power
Muscle
Offensive Development
Offensive Rebounds
Put Backs
And – 1’s
FT attempts

And, basically to demoralize their opponents. Like a) in football pounding and demoralizing the defense. It’s an IDENTITY issue for me that we play soft and are a jump-shooting team from 1 to 5! So so sad.

O'Brien

January 3rd, 2011
6:44 pm

Ken S,

Same thing with Boston last year. When they were injured and losing games, they deserved the benefit of the doubt based on their history (they won a title 2 years before).

And what do you know? They turned it up late when guys were healthy, and made it all the way back to the NBA finals.

Would anyone be surprised if the Lakers get it together, and make it all the way to the NBA finals? I wouldnt.

But what have the Hawks done in the playoffs the last 3 years?

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
6:52 pm

* like a running back in football, pounding the ball and demoralizing the opponent….

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
7:35 pm

Rod – It was the against the Bucks Josh disappeared in 4 of the 7 games. Pts. 7, 7, 10, 12. Averaged less than a steal per game for the series, and 2.4 Blocks.(very good) for the series.
Against the Magic he only had 2 blocks the entire series. I like Josh. I’ve just seen way to many times against quality opponents he lets something get in his head, then goes long stretches basically being invisible on the court except for his whining.

Teague is nowhere nearly as good as JET was in the League in his 2nd season. But I would say that he has even more potential. As far as observation, college and pro and summer league, I say Jeff Teague is more of a natural PG than Jason Terry. Observations of a former coach. It comes natural.

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
7:59 pm

Steve, how could Josh have more than two blocks against the Magic, when majority of the teams only take jump shots, and D12 is rarely blocked under the rim? How is he supposed to block the shots of Lewis, Carter, Barnes or any of the perimeter players if they’re just shooting from the outside? Josh had just as good of a series as anyone on the team. His numbers were better than Joe, Horford, JC1, and Bibby. People say Josh gave up because he didn’t get back on 2 plays on defense because he was talking to the referee. Two plays out of four games doesn’t make a series. How many plays Joe doesn’t get back on? How many plays a game JC1 and Bibby half hearted try to run out to open shooters?

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
8:05 pm

Also Steve Josh didn’t disappear in four of the games against Milw. Look and see how many minutes Josh played in game 7 against the Bucks. And see what the point advantage was for the entire game. Sorry to say this, but Josh is the one player who has proven the most in crunch time of all the Hawk players in a Hawk jersey (I know Bibby was clutch in Sac, but what has he done in Atl in the clutch?). How many blocks have Josh got in the last minute of a game (remember D. Wade)? How many defensive rebounds have Josh grabbed to close out a game?

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
8:22 pm

Josh needs to focus on turning his negative energy (whining, barking at teammates, etc) into a different type of energy……A type of energy that Matt Barnes, Artest, Kobe, and Kirk Hinrich possess.

This means picking up technical fouls when needed, getting in people’s faces, committing hard fouls, and making people scared of him. He is the only player on the team with this capability.

Those aforementioned guys are all uncomfortable people to play against (no homo). Smoove needs to be that guy for this team

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
8:28 pm

Rod, my man, you can’t give Smoove a free pass.

We all know Duck is soft as toilet tissue, but Smoove has been pissing [most] of us off. The guy is so damn immature, it’s sickening.

I am 99.9999999% sure that Horford cannot stand being on the same team as him.

I’d trade Smoove for DeAndre Jordan and someone else in a heartbeat. He can come off the bench there.

It’s amazing that he actually thinks he can dribble and be like LBJ.

LOL @ Michael Moron Jr. thinking that Smoove is the closest thing to LBJ in the league. LBJ doesn’t go scoreless in a half against the freaking Clippers

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
8:30 pm

Jeje, when did Josh go scoreless for a half against the Clippers?

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
8:31 pm

Also Jeje, who get in as many categories consistently as Josh? And how is Josh the 3rd or 4th option on the team, yet he leads the team in Hollinger ratings (which is highly respected among NBA officials and coaches?

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
8:34 pm

The only top category that Josh isn’t in the top three on the team is in free throw percentage. Who else on the team can also say that?

Melvin

January 3rd, 2011
8:49 pm

MC,

Will Damien get waived by Wednesday deadline for contracts to become guarantee?

O'Brien

January 3rd, 2011
9:01 pm

Ramon,

My biggest concern with Josh is that by the time we get to the playoffs, he will not be the rim protector he used to be, because he spends so much time on the perimeter (especially with LD playing him at SF).

I am also concerned that with his new and improved jump shot, he will take jump shots at key moments of a close game, and we will have to live with the result.

However, I also cringe when JJ takes his 3s, because he is struggling big time.

Rod from College Park

January 3rd, 2011
9:03 pm

JeJe,

While I will admit that I am partial to Josh because he is from College Park, I am by no means giving him a free pass. I am only stating the facts. I hate Josh shooting 3’s, but if the numbers indicate that he is shooting 3’s at a higher clip than Joe Johnson, and Marvin Williams then who are we to say he should not shoot them. He has a higher FG% than Joe, and Marvin’s FG% is 48%, and Josh’s is 47% with many more shots. I sometimes think he gets a bad rap because of his attitude. I for one love guys who play with emotion (good or bad), and show that they really want to be the best. I do not care for the Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams (no emotion guys). Josh hustles more than anyone on the team, as witnessed by his blocks. I have seen him run past Joe, Marvin, and Horford numerous times to make a play, but he is criticized for arguing a call in the playoffs 2 times, and now he never hustles. I guess he got all those blocks playing his own man (LOL). I love Horford’s game (no homo), but Horford does not play good interior defense, Josh does. If you really think about everything Josh does for this team, how can we honestly say stop shooting jumpers, when his percentages are higher than the best player on the team. He is one of the top rebounders on the team, best defender, at the top in steals, at the top in assist, top 3 or four in scoring, top in intimidation, and shoots a high percentage from the field, plays injured and rarely misses a game, but we don’t want him shooting jumpers. OK. Take the good, and live with the bad.

Rod from College Park

January 3rd, 2011
9:05 pm

Ramon,

We are on he same page. Agreed

Rod from College Park

January 3rd, 2011
9:12 pm

Jeje,

My personal opinion is that until we get a true point guard, who can run the team, and direct guys to where he wants them to be, and play to their strengths, the Josh you see know is the Josh we are stuck with. Do you think Josh would be shooting 3’s and jumpers if Nash, Kidd, Rondo, Paul or Derron Williams were running the point? I don’t. Obviously his teammates think he can hit those shots because they keep passing up shots to get him jump shots, so maybe he hits them in practice all the time like Marvin. Who knows.

Ramon

January 3rd, 2011
9:26 pm

O’Brien, I understand. But is Josh not leading the team in free throws attempt currently? So is he not truly playing inside more than anyone else on the team? Also the Hawks (other than Crawford and Teague) currently have no one capable of driving and dishing under the rim from the open man (from help defender leaving on the block) to take advantage of that. Personally, I believe part of this is more on LD than it is on Josh. I’ve said many times that I think the only teams the Hawks should consider going big against is LAL and Orlando. Any other team live and die with your match ups and exploit them. Josh is clearly a better defensive option at the four than Al is. Or if you’re going to go big, let Al guard the three on defense, and play the three position on offense. Both ways this will still put Josh closer to the rim.

slimjr

January 3rd, 2011
9:42 pm

@jamillion
“slimjr,why trade smoove for rudy gay. gay is not a better player,he’s marvin as a number one option.”

Take your pick. Rudy has a higher basketball IQ then both, and is one of the best young finishers around the rim. Can also shoot 3’s (real Jump shots) at 6′9″ and make them.He also has a nice mid range game, which neither has. Notice how he dropped 27 on the World Champs last night on the road and got a win! Hawks could not do that in this lifetime with Josh or Duck…

JeJe and I can see that Josh is not going to take this franchise to the ECF or Championship.. Time to ship him out while he still has value…This team peaked last year. Its gonna go down hill from here..Sund jettison the core! Make it so!

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
10:05 pm

Getting Back!

Ramon said this:

“How many plays Joe doesn’t get back on? ”
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Yes Ramon, can you please tell us all – how many?
I have never seen this problem in Joe’s game.
Ramon makes this stuff up as he goes along, too bad key boards don’t have a BS-Meter.

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
10:12 pm

Ramon,

I meant Josh was held without a field goal.

I don’t care about Hollinger’s dumb system. The bottom line is Smoove can be a star in this league but he will NEVER grow up

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2011
10:17 pm

Rod from College Park said that Josh Smith is from College Park. I thought Josh was from Albany, GA. Am I wrong?

Mike is back

January 3rd, 2011
10:17 pm

Drmaryb, thanks for the shout back…you are one of the best this blog has to offer…trust me…your present would be sorely missed…Word UP!!

Doc, can’t agree with you on Teague…that which you wish to see from Teague…can only come with playing time…even Al had to work hard to improve his offensive skills when he first came in the league…they all did…what makes Teague any different???

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
10:17 pm

And can we (MC included) stop calling this LD’s Motion Offense? It is hardly different from last year. Just a bunch of athletic guys playing 1 on 1

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:19 pm

Fact Check:

Ramon said this, “But is Josh not leading the team in free throws attempt currently?” Implying that Josh is leading the team in FTA’s per game in the context of his conversation, which could be quoted if needed. The Facts are:

JJ 4.5 FTA’s per game
Jamal 4.4
Josh 4.1 per game

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
10:20 pm

Rod,
I agree completely

This team does not have a point guard. Bibby is unathletic, old, and plays no defense

Teague does nothing on offense

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:22 pm

Rod – You said, “While I will admit that I am partial to Josh because he is from College Park..”

Thank you. I respect you as one of the best bloggers on here, but your Josh bias is obvious. And it’s ok. Thanks for admitting though.

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:23 pm

Rev – I live in the Albany area, and you are in fact wrong.

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:30 pm

Ramon asked this, “Steve, how could Josh have more than two blocks against the Magic, when majority of the teams only take jump shots, and D12 is rarely blocked under the rim? How is he supposed to block the shots of Lewis, Carter, Barnes or any of the perimeter players if they’re just shooting from the outside?”

I guess the same way he blocked 4 shots against them in 2 different games during the regular season last year, on Jan. 30th and March 24th., that’s how. The dude quit at times plain and simple. You said it yourself, you just understated how he then halfway got back for a while after these 2 times.

Ramon said it like this, “People say Josh gave up because he didn’t get back on 2 plays on defense because he was talking to the referee.” But Ramon, it had a little more effect than that. Bad teammate at those times.

If he could just be Josh without the whining…

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
10:31 pm

It seems like every game we find out the matchup on offense in which we can exploit the other team (this is a good thing obviously). Then after 3 minutes we completely go away from that.

It happened in a game a couple weeks ago vs. Boston where Marvin destroyed Ray Allen on 2 early possessions then did not get the ball vs. Allen again til like the 3rd quarter.

It happened a bit with Joe yesterday. We could’ve utilized him even more than we did

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:35 pm

Rod, you said “and now he never hustles.” Talking about Josh. Did I miss something, or did someone say Josh never hustled? We are just talking about how he let’s certain plays affect his psyche, and then he becomes invisible for stretches, except for his whining.

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:50 pm

BTW – Most NBA people think that Horford’s interior defense is very good, except for Blocks, and against a few of the bigger Centers.

And glad we didn’t do any of these Diop or Butler trades. Both probably out for the rest of the season.

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2011
10:51 pm

I agree with Ken regarding Bibby. I admire the way Bibby stepped it up at the beginning of the season on defense. He surprised everyone with effort, but it is clear he has given everything in his tank and is still lacking. Teague has to take the reigns of the offense to give this team the POSSIBILITY of improving. Leaving Bibby at the point is to give up on this team for this year because they have reached their ceiling in regard to their potential with Bibby getting so many minutes on the floor. .

Assuming that Coach Drew keeps Bibby at the point this season and Sund keeps his ‘core’, then what does this mean for the future? Will Bibby be the starter for the 2011-2012 season? No one can possibly think he will be. But they will have been a playoff team this year so they will not be picking low enough to find a point in the draft that could realistically start for the Hawks. So Teague would have to start next year whether he is ready or not.

My point is, Teague is the future whether we like or not. We know our ceiling with Bibby. We will find out where Teague will take us, if not this year then next. Give it to Teague now. We may be pleasantly surprised.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
10:52 pm

Fact Check!

SteveW, if you ran a Fact Check on everything Ramon says on here?
Then, you would busier than a one-legged man in a rump kicking contest.

And, that my friend is real!
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Sorry Ramon, I love you like a Brother, but I’ve got to call you out when them gums start bumping lies. You know me, I fight dirty! Because, I got to keep ALL things real, when it comes to my Hawks! -smiles-
You can’t bash my team with lies and innuendos! I won’t stand for it.
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Mike is Back!

And, I for one am glad as hell! You see, Mike keeps it real 24/7/365.
What up Mike baby, man I’ve been on here baby-sitting all the baby bloggers.
They’re all crying, so I got to get them their rattles and pacifiers.

Hey, Mike, I don’t want to gut the team and start over. Just want to fix the glaring holes at PG & C for now. Whatever, it takes Mike, by any means necessary. Keep it coming Big-Mike! -smile-

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:54 pm

And as far as Josh leading the Hollinger rankings, Al has a better per by a longhsot.

SteveW

January 3rd, 2011
10:56 pm

Co-sign Rev and Drmaryb.

And Ramon, you make some extremely good posts sometimes. But I think your just blinded out of favoritism to Josh.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
11:04 pm

Hot Garbage!

“I am 99.9999999% sure that Horford cannot stand being on the same team as him.”
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Yeah … Someone really said that! Unbelievable, I couldn’t make this stuff up, just an example of how much BS we have to scroll past, to get to the end.

SMH

Rev in Tampa

January 3rd, 2011
11:07 pm

SteveW,

I’ve got roots in south GA as well. My mom was born in Albany and my dad was born and raised in Cordele (birthplace of my favorite all-time Hawk: Tree Rollins). My mom was raised in Rochelle,GA.

Thanks for the correcton on Josh. But I have met a young man from Albany who could be the future Josh Smith. He is in 8th grade here in the Tampa area. He and his mom moved here over a year ago and she is in my Rotary Club. He is already 6′2″ and off the charts atheletically. He is already generating buzz in a big city.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
11:27 pm

Ramon!

I hope you know I am having some serious fun with you buddy-love.
I know you have thick skin and I always enjoy your passion and enthusiasm in your posts. That is apparent, you just get carried away sometimes with the hard facts.

Try adding a few key words to your stuff, for example:

Allegedly
I believe
I think
Somebody help me out here – where’s NorthCyde?
Correct me if I’m wrong (I’m way too lazy to research)

The last two are my all-time favorites. -Giggles-
Just a little help with CYA on the evil blog.

JeJe

January 3rd, 2011
11:32 pm

“Hot Garbage!

“I am 99.9999999% sure that Horford cannot stand being on the same team as him.”
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Yeah … Someone really said that! Unbelievable, I couldn’t make this stuff up, just an example of how much BS we have to scroll past, to get to the end.

”

Do you even watch the games? It’s obvious Horford finds Smoove immature as hell (he called Smoove out and hurt his feelings earlier in the season). I am sure everyone else on the board agrees with me on this one.

Rod from College Park

January 3rd, 2011
11:33 pm

SteveW

“Rod, you said “and now he never hustles.” Talking about Josh. Did I miss something, or did someone say Josh never hustled? We are just talking about how he let’s certain plays affect his psyche, and then he becomes invisible for stretches, except for his whining.”

Many on this blog, have made the claim that Josh argues and never gets back on defense. Not particularly you. Again if Josh becomes invisible for stretches, then I hate to hear your opinion on Marvin, and Bibby. If they are not hitting shots, they really bring nothing else to the table. Josh affects the game on both ends of the floor, so I really don’t agree with you on the he becomes invisible thing.

drmaryb (*_*)

January 3rd, 2011
11:54 pm

Crystal Ball!

Jeje how can you or anyone begin to know what is in a man’s heart?
Come on man. If Al hated playing with Josh so much, why did he re-sign for pennies on the dollar? He could have picked his team and bank rolled that.

Don’t let your emotions trump valor and truth.
I’m just keeping it real on here!

-Smile Baby- it’s all good, we both love our Hawks!

Ken Strickland

January 4th, 2011
12:25 am

I think Teague’s problems with asserting himself, and taking over the team when he’s in the gm, is due to the presence of JJ, Jamal and Smoove, 3 very strong on the court personalities. When you have MBibby, a veteran PG that’s heavily favored by the HC, consistently deferring to them, it makes it hard for a young inexperienced PG like Teague to come in on a limited basis and change the way things are done.

Let’s face it, his job isn’t to create on court friction between he and the teams leaders and/or key players. Out of habit, and/or what they know, players inbounding the ball usually give it to JJ or Jamal, if they’re in the gm or in position to receive the inbound pass.

A lot of this falls on LDrew’s shoulders. If he really wants Teague to step up and take over the team and the OFF, he’d make it perfectly clear to JJ, Jamal, Smoove, and everyone else, that Teague will be the one controlling the ball and the OFF. There’s no doggone way LDrew should be sitting back and waiting for Teague to take it upon himself to do what no other PG has been allowed to do over the last 4-5yrs, including Bibby.

Bibby was given the keys to the team this yr despite last yrs OFF/DEF woes, and his documated OFF/DEF liabilities/limitations. He did have a very good training camp and preseason, but so did Teague, until he got hurt. It’s time for LDrew to stop making excuses and overlook the perceived weaknesses in Teague’s overall gm, turn the team over to him, and work with him on those perceived weaknesses as the season progresses.

That is the only possible way the Hawks will become a better playoff team, short of trading for a starting quality PG.

slimjr

January 4th, 2011
12:26 am

“Thanks for the correcton on Josh. But I have met a young man from Albany who could be the future Josh Smith. He is in 8th grade here in the Tampa area. He and his mom moved here over a year ago and she is in my Rotary Club. He is already 6′2″ and off the charts atheletically. He is already generating buzz in a big city.”

Lets hope this kid learns some fundamentals unlike Josh.. Give him the Magic Johnson basketball DVD training..

slimjr

January 4th, 2011
12:32 am

Trade Mike and Teague and a 1st round plus cash for DWILL. Man he is the answer for the Hawks since the greatest point guard to ever lace up shoes for the Hawks, Mookie Blaylock…We miss ya Mookie!!!!!!!!

Come on Joe keep hoisting those real jump shots.. The franchise needs you desperately to step up..
Orlando has won six straight! Oh no…….

Ramon

January 4th, 2011
12:32 am

SteveW, where in my statement did I say FTA per game? I said he’s leading them in FTA. And he is. Josh has 146 FTA, JC1 has 131 FTA, Joe has 122 FTA and Horford, our starting center has 104 FTA. So how does Josh not have more FTA’s than anyone on the team? Then you can say Josh hasn’t missed as many games as Joe or Jamal. And while you would be using that to prove one point. You’d also be proving that through his career Josh has been one of the most durable players in the league, and perhaps the most durable player on this team.

Drmaryb, if you ever visited ESPN, NBA.com and viewed the stats, you would not make a comment like that. My posts are pretty accurate anytime I post stats or talk about performances. I was in a meeting so couldn’t respond promptly, sorry. But I don’t take anything to heart on here. Its sports, you’re supposed to talk trash, lol. But I can back up what I post.

Boooo!

January 4th, 2011
12:35 am

What about Bibby and Mo for Kirk Heinrich? WAS doest want any competitiony between Wall and Bibby could be his mentor. Also WAS will be taking on an expiring contract in Mo and a lesser deal in Bibby.

Then all we have to do is package Marvin, Zaza, Etan, and Damien for Andre Igoudala. Then sign Jarron Collins who just got wived by the clippers for finincial reasons. And sign Kyle Weaver out of the D league andBring back up Pape.

BTW I went on a clipper blog and they think Bibby is overpaid. They are ready to part with Davis(not who they thought he would be) and Kaman(inconsistent) it seems to be 50/50

They also want a wing. They are tired of Ryan Gomes and Rasual Butler, but they like Al Farouq Aminu. They are interested in Prince, Iguodala, and Melo (obviously)

The clips would be a good candidate for a 3-6 team deal with us, the nets, DET, DEN, and NJ

Just some random thoughts.

Boooo!

January 4th, 2011
12:38 am

*WAS doesn’t want any competition between Heinrich (who has stated he wants to play a significant role if not start) and Wall. Bibby would be the perfect backup for them. Plus he costs less than Heinrich.

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