Atlanta Hawks vs. Warriors: Marvin still not feeling bench role

L.D. is using his normal lineup tonight so Marvin is back among the starters. He looked pretty good in his two most recent games coming off the bench. He played fewer minutes than his average but he got up 17 shots in 50 minutes. I think the Hawks benefited from him playing on the second unit.

None of that changes Marvin’s preference to start.

“I’ve played what, two games off the bench?” he said. “I’ve played how many starting? Now start me for 300 games and see how I play.”

Truth is Marvin has played well the last couple weeks as both a starter and reserve. But L.D. notes that he can get Marvin more involved when he’s on the floor with the reserves.

“When he comes of the bench, it allows him to be more of a guy I can go to a little bit more as far as play sets that are called,” L.D. said. “When he’s in the starting lineup with Joe, Mike Smoove and Al he can be a first option at times, he can be a fourth option at times. When he is in there with the reserves, he is going to be either one or two.

“To me, he’s adapted well in coming off the bench when I’ve gone with my big lineup. He actually looks more comfortable. I think he knows in that second unit he will get more touches, I am able to run more plays directly for him. And most of the time he will be playing against their reserves.”

All of those things may be true but, again, Marvin has always been a starter and wants to keep it that way. Not that he takes it personally when he’s not.

“I love L.D. He’s been nothing but good to me,” Marvin said. “I’m not upset at him about anything and I don’t think he’s upset at me. It’s just the choice he made and I’ve got to live with it. It doesn’t make me mad at him or mad at my team or anything like that.”

Pick up the pace?

The Warriors are among the fastest-paced teams in the league. The Hawks still are among the slowest.

L.D. doesn’t like it when the Hawks play too fast on the road but he doesn’t mind picking up the pace at Philips.

“We definitely want to control the pace but we don’t want to get away from what we do, especially at home,” he said. “We want to get up and down, we want to run. We don’t want to get into a quick shoot contest with them. That’s kind of what they want.”

Atlanta’s pace at home is 92 possessions per game, still slow.

It’s pretty obvious why Drew is using the regular lineup against the Warriors, who are small to begin with and now are without Andris Biedrins (ankle) and Dan Gadzuric (groin).

“They don’t have the big forces inside,” Drew said. “They’ve got some very good centers, guys that can play the position very well but not a situation where we have to look to come and double team.”

What the Warriors have are swift backcourt partners Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. The Hawks have J.J.. Something’s got to give.

“We do have Joe against the smaller guards. We are definitely going to try and exploit that,” L.D. said. “On the other end they have the advantage of smaller guards having the speed and the quickness. Maybe Joe doesn’t have the speed and the quickness to stay with them. We try to combat that on the other end.”

Curry is working his way back from an ankle injury and played 29 minutes against Portland on Saturday and 28 against Philly on Monday. Ellis is third in the league in scoring and 10th in usage rate.

“Very, very explosive,” L.D. said. “I’ve always liked him. He’s a guy that has a knack for scoring. He’s really explosive so have to do a good job on him collectively. He’s too good, too explosive and he gets too many touches. It has to be a team effort. We have to make sure we load up on him in transition. We have to contest all of his shots but more importantly we have got to keep him out of the paint. It’s going to take all five guys to do that.”

Michael Cunningham

244 comments Add your comment

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:48 pm

I swear im bout to put a hit on mo evans

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:48 pm

MO Evans….the absolute worst

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
8:49 pm

Funny how certain players continue to get career highs and season highs against the Hawks.

northcyde

December 29th, 2010
8:49 pm

Blown fast break by Mo . . Warriors back the other way. Lead down to 5.

Like I said earlier in the day. Playing fast, just for the sake of playing fast, isn’t always a good thing. If it’s not there, then don’t force it.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

“Inside Israeli Basketball”? SportSouth is really reaching to try to fill time on their programming schedule…

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

lol I wonder what the hawks players be thinkig in their mind about mo evans

Ree Roe

December 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

This game shouldn’t be close…still not understanding Mo Evans purpose on this team. He’s one of the worst basketball players I’ve ever seen

-REE Roe!!

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

The Hawks have some scrubs playing a lot of minutes

Zaza, Mo Evans

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
8:51 pm

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:50 pm

“Inside Israeli Basketball”? SportSouth is really reaching to try to fill time on their programming schedule…

…………..

lol

It was not a bad pick

December 29th, 2010
8:51 pm

Marvin Williams should request a trade right now..He will be wasted here..clearly Josh is a better fit for the bench..The Hawks will be put out of the playoffs in round 1 or 2..Swept again…Drew was a horrible hire.Almost just like Woody…His rotation is the worst i have ever seen…No teague?..Jamal is a sg, why play him at pg?Mo over jordan,Damien?….Marvin get your agent on the phone now!

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
8:51 pm

smh….career night for another role player

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:51 pm

If I were Rick Sund, I would trade Mo Evans just so LD would be forced to play someone else (Damien) in those minutes. Same with Zaza for that matter.

Also, did Josh Powell sleep with LD’s daughter or something? For the first month of the season he was the first big man off the bench, but in the last 6 or 7 games he’s been nowhere to be seen.

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

Where is Al Horford??? It’s winning time coach

Melvin

December 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

Well the Teague sighting is over… What’s the purpose in playing him for the first 2 mins to start the 4th qtr?

northcyde

December 29th, 2010
8:52 pm

LOL . . poor Teague. Out of the game already. And it wasn’t even his fault.

Bibby – Jamal – Mo – Smith – Zaza

Ugh @ that lineup.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

LMFAO…dang…I forgot Powell was even on the team for a sec

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Why is it someone makes the All Star team every night on the Hawks….Dorell Wright….30 & 10?? unacceptable

Ree Roe

December 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

KG hurt his knee tonight, buckled on him. X rays are negative, MRI tomorrow

-REEst Roe!!!

northcyde

December 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

OMG . . Jamal made the extra pass !!

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
8:53 pm

Josh Smith is unstoppable against these type teams. What’s up with Jordan Crawford?

rusty

December 29th, 2010
8:54 pm

Nortcyde you say the most stupid thinks. You always love woody now I guess your in love with ld

bigdave

December 29th, 2010
8:54 pm

unwillingness to go inside.. lol

thats what our bigs want to do..

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:56 pm

jordan crawford wearing pape sy suit

O'Brien

December 29th, 2010
8:56 pm

Mo Evans has shot the ball better the last 3 games. I think Hawks need to trade him and his $2.5 mil expiring salary

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
8:56 pm

These dudes can’t guard Josh…or Al, that’s 2 points everytime if they go to hole..

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:56 pm

I hope KG is not seriously injured again…that’s my favorite player and he returned to form this year

hawkfan

December 29th, 2010
8:57 pm

at least i heard people screaming Zaza, he did play good today

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:57 pm

Does Joe really need 5 seconds to make up his mind what to do when he gets the ball? If you want to drive inside, just f-cking drive. Don’t stand there counting sheep and wasting the damn shot clock. That time he couldn’t have even passed it to an open guy because there was no time left on the clock.

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:57 pm

lmao bibby wtf

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
8:58 pm

Josh for 3!!

O'Brien

December 29th, 2010
8:58 pm

I hope Marvin is not injured, because he has been playing much better the last couple weeks.

Am I the only one who thinks ‘Nique adds absolutely nothing to the analysis?

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:58 pm

Nique says the GSW offense has “definitely stalled”. Here comes the 8-0 run.

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
9:00 pm

nique is very predicable

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
9:00 pm

Jamal and Mo for Tayshaun Prince and Ben Wallace. Then you have the freedom to dump Marvin and Zaza on whoever is willing to take them. Make it happen Rick Sund…

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
9:02 pm

Najeh, nobody wants Marvin. That’s the problem.

Astro Joe

December 29th, 2010
9:02 pm

I’m sure no one will mention the woeful shooting of the Warriors backcourt, but had they lit up the Hawks, there would have been plenty of venom for Bibby, Joe and Jamal. But with Curry and Ellis essentially MIA, let’s just say that they were “cold”.

Dept. of Unintended Irony

December 29th, 2010
9:02 pm

“lol I wonder what the hawks players be thinkig in their mind about mo evans”

My question: where else would they be thinking?

Melvin

December 29th, 2010
9:02 pm

Did Nique just say Bibby is 6′4…. oh my..

bigdave

December 29th, 2010
9:02 pm

Bibby getting brolic again..

6′4 Nique.. ? yea right..

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
9:03 pm

This is literally one of the worst games I have seen Joe Johnson play since he came to the Hawks. There have been games when he has bricked 15 shots or whatever, but I have never seen him make this many dumb plays. Lucky for the Hawks, Smoove and Al are dominating.

Melvin

December 29th, 2010
9:04 pm

Does Josh knows he has 9 rebs? He’s been stuck on 9 for the whole qtr.

bigdave

December 29th, 2010
9:04 pm

soon as Nique open his mouth

Nique shut up.. plenty of time

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
9:05 pm

“Najeh, nobody wants Marvin. That’s the problem.”

Yeah, I try to pretend that’s not true when coming up with trade scenarios, but in the back of my mind I know this too. There’s just a part of me that says if Gilbert Arenas can get traded, so can Marvin. Who knows.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
9:05 pm

“oooooo the BAWSE (ROSSSSS!!!) ..takin charge!!”

-Bob Rathbun

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
9:05 pm

smh joe big nose johnson

yoursporthouse.com

December 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

Get big Al!!

Ree Roe

December 29th, 2010
9:06 pm

Najeh that would be a steal of a trade. I’d trade Mo for a bag of chips and a throwback jersey at this point. He might actually be the WORST pro basketball player alive right now

-REEspectfully Roe!!

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
9:07 pm

wow I thought josh would have had 15 rebs by now

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
9:07 pm

More Woody-esque minutes distribution in this game. Smoove, Al, Joe, and Jamal all well over 30, Bibby and Marvin above 25, Teague with less than 5, Zaza/Mo with less than 20, and DNP/CD for everyone else.

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
9:09 pm

lol horford telling josh sorry