Atlanta Hawks vs. Warriors: Marvin still not feeling bench role

L.D. is using his normal lineup tonight so Marvin is back among the starters. He looked pretty good in his two most recent games coming off the bench. He played fewer minutes than his average but he got up 17 shots in 50 minutes. I think the Hawks benefited from him playing on the second unit.

None of that changes Marvin’s preference to start.

“I’ve played what, two games off the bench?” he said. “I’ve played how many starting? Now start me for 300 games and see how I play.”

Truth is Marvin has played well the last couple weeks as both a starter and reserve. But L.D. notes that he can get Marvin more involved when he’s on the floor with the reserves.

“When he comes of the bench, it allows him to be more of a guy I can go to a little bit more as far as play sets that are called,” L.D. said. “When he’s in the starting lineup with Joe, Mike Smoove and Al he can be a first option at times, he can be a fourth option at times. When he is in there with the reserves, he is going to be either one or two.

“To me, he’s adapted well in coming off the bench when I’ve gone with my big lineup. He actually looks more comfortable. I think he knows in that second unit he will get more touches, I am able to run more plays directly for him. And most of the time he will be playing against their reserves.”

All of those things may be true but, again, Marvin has always been a starter and wants to keep it that way. Not that he takes it personally when he’s not.

“I love L.D. He’s been nothing but good to me,” Marvin said. “I’m not upset at him about anything and I don’t think he’s upset at me. It’s just the choice he made and I’ve got to live with it. It doesn’t make me mad at him or mad at my team or anything like that.”

Pick up the pace?

The Warriors are among the fastest-paced teams in the league. The Hawks still are among the slowest.

L.D. doesn’t like it when the Hawks play too fast on the road but he doesn’t mind picking up the pace at Philips.

“We definitely want to control the pace but we don’t want to get away from what we do, especially at home,” he said. “We want to get up and down, we want to run. We don’t want to get into a quick shoot contest with them. That’s kind of what they want.”

Atlanta’s pace at home is 92 possessions per game, still slow.

It’s pretty obvious why Drew is using the regular lineup against the Warriors, who are small to begin with and now are without Andris Biedrins (ankle) and Dan Gadzuric (groin).

“They don’t have the big forces inside,” Drew said. “They’ve got some very good centers, guys that can play the position very well but not a situation where we have to look to come and double team.”

What the Warriors have are swift backcourt partners Stephen Curry and Monta Ellis. The Hawks have J.J.. Something’s got to give.

“We do have Joe against the smaller guards. We are definitely going to try and exploit that,” L.D. said. “On the other end they have the advantage of smaller guards having the speed and the quickness. Maybe Joe doesn’t have the speed and the quickness to stay with them. We try to combat that on the other end.”

Curry is working his way back from an ankle injury and played 29 minutes against Portland on Saturday and 28 against Philly on Monday. Ellis is third in the league in scoring and 10th in usage rate.

“Very, very explosive,” L.D. said. “I’ve always liked him. He’s a guy that has a knack for scoring. He’s really explosive so have to do a good job on him collectively. He’s too good, too explosive and he gets too many touches. It has to be a team effort. We have to make sure we load up on him in transition. We have to contest all of his shots but more importantly we have got to keep him out of the paint. It’s going to take all five guys to do that.”

Michael Cunningham

244 comments Add your comment

J from the A

December 29th, 2010
7:09 pm

hawkfan

December 29th, 2010
7:11 pm

GT Alum

December 29th, 2010
7:15 pm

Hmmm, wonder how many comments there will be along the lines of “who gives a damn what Marvin wants.”

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
7:17 pm

Joe killed the flow of the offense on that last possession

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:19 pm

Forwards playing well, guards playing like sh-t.

We want Teague! We want Teague! We want Teague!

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:19 pm

Who gives a damn what Marvin wants.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:21 pm

Bibby and Joe have made some of the worst passes ever seen by mankind in this game so far.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:22 pm

“I’ve played what, two games off the bench?” he said. “I’ve played how many starting? Now start me for 300 games and see how I play.”

Disappointingly?

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:28 pm

Well it seems to have lit a fire under Marvin Williams….sometimes that’s all it takes for some players

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:31 pm

I still dont see motion..players are still standing around

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:31 pm

jump Joe Johnson…hell

Brad

December 29th, 2010
7:33 pm

Two defensive juggernauts going toe to toe

ATL FAN

December 29th, 2010
7:34 pm

motion offense is dead

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:35 pm

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:39 pm

warriors are too small

ATL FAN

December 29th, 2010
7:40 pm

wtf is marvin doing

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:42 pm

lmfaoooo zaza box out marvin

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 29th, 2010
7:42 pm

lmao…zaza tryin to get smooth

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:43 pm

This game should be an easy win but knowing the Hawks we will have to sweat this one out

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:45 pm

What’s up with Mo Evans and those ugly red Converse? Look like clown shoes. lol! Only fitting. lol!

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:46 pm

Btw, Hawks need to practice their free throws. Joe Bricked another tech.

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:46 pm

Mo Evans should give up

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:47 pm

hawks stop going inside

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:48 pm

lmaoooo marvin is too clumsy

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:48 pm

Warriors defense starting to look like Boston with this Hawks lineup

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:48 pm

Fast guards for the other team, Jamal’s shot is off… and Teague still isn’t in the game.

ATL FAN

December 29th, 2010
7:49 pm

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:49 pm

smh no motion at all

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:49 pm

Is Joe high?

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
7:49 pm

Joe Johnson has been worthless in this game, in every way shape and form.

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:50 pm

hawks just stop going inside and are just standing around…typical though

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
7:50 pm

like I said….find a way to give the Warriors some confidence when we should be blowing them out….Al horford in the game please

Sautee

December 29th, 2010
7:51 pm

LOL, Najeh, he can always serve as a bad example.

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:51 pm

Thats 2 fast breaks that he blew with errant passes. Come on Joe. Wake the f up.

Ree Roe

December 29th, 2010
7:51 pm

Can anybody tell me what Mo Evans purpose is? This is a serious question b/c I’m not sure what it is that he does that is of ANY significance

-REEgurgitated Roe!!!

Sautee

December 29th, 2010
7:51 pm

We should attack inside every time down.

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
7:53 pm

wtf is marvin dumb ass doing

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:54 pm

ASG, cant be happy watching Joe perform like this. He looks awful so far. Really need to pick it up before I start bringing up the 20+ mill $ shizz my damn self.

Ramon

December 29th, 2010
7:58 pm

Each time Joe gets the ball count how many seconds he has the ball in his hand. I bet more times than not it will be over 5 seconds.

terrell

December 29th, 2010
7:59 pm

Damn Joe. Airball? Are you kidding me?

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:00 pm

Joe Johnson needs to heal that elbow for about 3 to 4 more weeks….just shot an airball and looks terrible

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:00 pm

smh joe is a bummmm ith his big nose ass

terrell

December 29th, 2010
8:00 pm

Looks like Teague will get another dnp-coach’s decision

bigdave

December 29th, 2010
8:01 pm

lol @ Bibby giving the ball to his big man to start the break..

YoDaddy

December 29th, 2010
8:01 pm

never thought I’d see the day when a PG gives the ball to the PF to initiate the fast break….get Bibby out of there…this is not his type of game

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:01 pm

just embarrassing

Melvin

December 29th, 2010
8:01 pm

LOL… Bibby just give the ball to Horford so he could push it up the floor…

ATL FAN

December 29th, 2010
8:02 pm

As bad as the Hawks have been, Golden State has been worse

J.J.M

December 29th, 2010
8:02 pm

I would boo the hawks off the floor

Najeh Davenpoop

December 29th, 2010
8:02 pm

A good team would be up by 20 right now. The Warriors were horrible in that half.