Atlanta Hawks: On Drew and Teague
The Hawks can use Teague's skills but he can't get regular minutes. (Benny Sieu / Milwaukee Journal Sentinel)
Back on Dec. 16, before the Hawks played the Celtics at TD Garden, I had a conversation with L.D. about his team’s pick-and-roll defense. I noted that, according to Synergy Sports Technology, his team ranked next-to-last in the league at defending pick-and-roll ballhandlers (they now rank 28th, allowing .91 points per possession).
(Synergy counts only those times when the screen-roll ballhandler is “responsible for the ending action which can be a shot attempt, turnover or drawing a foul that results in free throws.” So it does not count the times when the initial pick-and-roll leads to other actions as the Hawks scramble. Notably, the Hawks rank first in the league at defending the roll man, allowing only .82 points per possession. I ‘m thinking this is what is known as “The Josh Smith effect.”)
So I asked L.D. how the Hawks could ever hope to be effective defending the perimeter given the guys who are playing the most minutes:
“Looking at our personnel, a lot of it involves Mike. Teams know that. We try and disguise some things to not have him as involved. He is at the stage of his career where it is tough for him to defend pick-and-rolls and teams know that. We try to do some things to disguise it, try to manipulate it. He is not the only one. We have just got guys with the initial impact of the ball, they have a hard time with it. We just try to manipulate it a little bit to make it a little bit easier for him. It’s something we will continue to work at.”
This naturally led to a question about Teague. I let L.D. know I was not trying to suggest that Teague is a cure-all for the team’s woes defending the pick-and-roll but certainly he is the best option the Hawks have right now. He has the potential to become even better at it as he gains experience and sees more situations.
Is it that L.D. believes Teague is giving up too much offensively in relation to Bibby and Jamal to give Teague more minutes?
“I’m trying to find that balance. You give up certain things with certain guys. Teague has the speed, the quickness, the footspeed to defend the pick-and-roll. But you give up things in other areas with him on the floor. He vs. Mike on the floor, obviously Mike is a shotmaker and you give that up. It’s tick for tack. You try to get both guys better in areas where they are deficient. You try to get Mike better at defending the pick-and-rolls, We have got to manipulate it a little bit and help him out as much as you can with that. Teague, because he does a pretty good job with it, we constantly try to improve his shot and keep him in an attack mode offensively and get to the basket and finishing. You give up something on one end, you give up something else at the other.”
This is a good time to compare Teague’s production and efficiency in 2009-10 to this season so far.
Teague’s production per 36 minutes is better in nearly every category. His effective field-goal percentage, true-shooting percentage, assist percentage, rebound percentage and block percentage are all improved. His turnover percentage is up slightly. Teague’s usage percentage is down even as his minutes are up. The numbers may not look as good if he were to get even more minutes, and chances are he will never be an offensive threat like Bibby and Jamal, but Teague is not killing the Hawks offensively and there are signs he’s getting better.
Back to Boston: Hours after that conversation with L.D., Teague had probably his best game of the season. Afterward, Teague talked about taking L.D.’s message to heart and focusing on being aggressive and assertive. L.D. praised Teague’s play: “That’s what I am looking for. I need that.” Drew said this in a way that made me think that he really does want Teague to become a permanent fixture in the rotation and believes he can do it.
And so what happened from there? Teague played 15 solid minutes in the next game against Charlotte, then seven minutes at New Jersey and eight vs. Orlando. Teague got 18 minutes against Cleveland, then a DNP-CD against New Orleans. Jamal sat out all of those games except New Orleans, and there are some good pick-and-roll teams among that group. Yet Teague still couldn’t get consistent minutes.
That led to last night at Milwaukee. Before the game I reminded L.D. of our conversation at Boston and asked him if he still thought Teague was too much of a liability offensively in relation to Jamal and Bibby to warrant a permanent spot in the rotation:
“He certainly brings the speed aspect to what we do and we definitely need that. When he is playing with that kind of reckless abandonment with his speed, we are effective. He has to know when to punch it and when to back off. Certainly his speed is something we don’t have, and hopefully he will continue to learn and continue to get better in that area because that is something we desperately need from him. I didn’t play him last night but certainly looking to get him in there tonight, especially against Boykins.”
And then Drew did get Teague in there, and Teague had another fine game while playing 18 minutes. Afterward Teague talked about Lester Conner staying in his ear and encouraging him to impact the game. Drew praised Teague’s performance.
So what will all this mean for Teague from here on out? Based on what’s happened so far, it’s hard to say. The whole thing has been a bit confusing. As an organization the Hawks talked all summer about the importance of Teague becoming a major contributor. Then he got hurt in training camp and fell behind. It seems he’s been playing catch-up ever since and hasn’t always been afforded the opportunity to work his way through rough stretches or rewarded for his good performances.
Certainly L.D. has given Teague more opportunities than his predecessor on the bench. But I think a fair interpretation of events is that, despite L.D.’s stated desire to mold the Hawks into a defensive team and develop his young players, his decisions in this matter reflect a different tact. (Shoot, it makes me wonder how willing he’d be to stick with the promising “big” lineup if Twin were a young guy. Would it just mean more Etan Thomas?)
Since L.D.’s actions with Teague don’t always match his words, I can only conclude that he is reluctant to reduce minutes for his two veteran “shotmakers” with defensive deficiencies for the sake of finding more playing time for his most physically-gifted perimeter defender. This is happening even though L.D. says the team needs Teague’s skill set, Teague has shown signs of improving offensively and he is key to both the team’s fortunes this season and in the future.
Drew has said that because Jamal, Bibby and Teague have such contrasting strengths and weaknesses he’s always thinking about making adjustments on the fly. He doesn’t have one guard who can do it all so he’s trying to match his available pieces to situations. But so far Teague seems to be getting lost in that equation. Stay tuned, blog people.
MC
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Rufus1
December 29th, 2010
11:09 am
@Northcyde
I don’t have a problem with Bibby as much as I have a problem with Bibby and Jamal playing together in the 4th QT…Or Bibby having to guard Tony Parker in the 4th QT
vava74
December 29th, 2010
11:11 am
Big Ray:
“The problem is what is has been, and what many are blind to because they are dazzled by his dribble: JAMAL CRAWFORD.”
northcyde:
“Jamal should play somewhere around 25 minutes a game. If he has it going, and he’s not giving points back on the defensive end, you can afford to play him more minutes.”
Ummm… there was a blogger repeating ad nauseam precisely these thoughts last year and this past summer…
Ummm, I wonder who it was….
If I am not wrong, that same blogger also said that the team actually got worse with the change between Flip and Jamal… precisely due to these two factors (inferior D and too many minutes on the floor)
J from the A
December 29th, 2010
11:12 am
@Rufus1: LaGree lost his credibility IMO when he claimed that JJ is a defensive liability [he said all three of the Hawks primary guards are _individually_ defensive liabilities] and, in the same sentence, claimed that the Hawks’ three primary guards’ offense is on decline. [Is Bibby's shooting really on decline? Yes, JJ's ppg and percentage is down a little bit, but perhaps injuries have a little to do with this. etc.]
And then the [somewhat[ legitimate insights he did have were really not that insightful. They were platitudes that any fan of this team has blindly repeated over and over again.
eastlaketb
December 29th, 2010
11:12 am
i can see now why larry drew is the lowest paid coach in the league.
northcyde
December 29th, 2010
11:18 am
Thanks J from the A. I’ll try to copy and post it here, but only give the web address without the direct hyperlink:
I mean . . when you look at the profile of Bibby, I can see why Drew opts to stay with him, despite him being a liability on defense.
As long as he’s protected with a big rotating over to help him . . or protected altogether by Bibby guarding the weaker guard . . it honestly hasn’t proved to be catastrophic IF Bibby is also making shots.
When the dude is making shots, the Hawks are usually clicking on all cylinders. It’s when Bibby doesn’t make shots, that all of these issues with him on defense really come to the forefront.
But the player profiles of both Bibby and Teague are interesting, to say the least. Teague puts up better overall individual numbers on a per 48 minute basis . . but he’s light years behind Bibby, when it comes to “team impact”.
Mike Bibby – 82games.com/1011/10ATL1.HTM
Jeff Teague – 82games.com/1011/10ATL2.HTM
But like I said in the last post, the last thing people need to see, is if Teague can be more effective playing with “the core” more.
i_am_soulstar
December 29th, 2010
11:32 am
Big Ray,
You beat me to it.
Teague rarely gets beat unless he runs into a hard screen. But I think that has as much to with Teague’s inability to fight through some screens as it does with the Hawks being lousy as a whole at defending the pick and roll.
But are the Hawks really better with Bibby in the starting lineup than Teague?? Such a small sample size because Teague almost never plays with the starters.
PER isn’t everything, but Teague has a 14.70 PER so far this season.
Bibby has 12.89.
Besides hitting the 3 ball and having an awesome assist-to-turnover ratio, there’s not much Bibby does better than Teague.
JeJe
December 29th, 2010
11:42 am
LOL @ people who stand up for Bibby.
On other teams like Houston or Sacramento, their main PGs go down and guys like Lowry and Udrih step up and have MONSTER games. If Teague went down and Bibby had to play more minutes at the PG (keep in mind Bibby is our #1 PG), he’d still do his usual 10 ppg and nothing else for us
GET RID OF THIS FAT PLAYER. HE IS NOT STARTER QUALITY
HE IS NOT IN SACRAMENTO ANYMORE
I.MUS WRITE
December 29th, 2010
11:45 am
I have no problem at all starting bibby. he is okay on defense but his Shot making cant be replaced Teague is a liability IMO-yeah hes fast /quick but he has no offensive game at all. floater after floater and he misses alot right at the rim. Seriously how is he any better than AC Law…..
Bibby has had a good year so far lets stop concentrating on his D we know its suspect but the guy is a flat out assasin shooting the rock-I’ll take that over teagues hustle and lack of shooting ability.
JC1/ZaZA/Mo/1st for Monte Ellis/Hunter
Monte
JJ
Smoove
Horford
Collins
Bench:
Marvin Teague Hunter Wilkins JC2 EThomas
Marvin should stay on the bench -he plays better as a sub-alot more agressive.
JeJe
December 29th, 2010
11:46 am
How can Teague NOT be developed if LD thinks he’s the PG of the future.
BIBBY WILL BE GONE REGARDLESS IN LESS THAN 2 YEARS. WHAT DO WE DO THEN? START OUR PG WHO PLAYS 15 MINUTES EVERY OTHER GAME?
GTFOH
START TEAGUE OR TRADE FOR A NEW PG
JeJe
December 29th, 2010
11:47 am
AND WHY DOES DAMIEN NOT PLAY ANYMORE?
YOU WANT TO SACRIFICE WINS SO YOU CAN “SHOWCASE” YOUR PLAYERS WHO WON’T EVEN BE TRADED
FIRE SUND
Rufus1
December 29th, 2010
11:49 am
J from the A I agree with you about Lagree for the most part…
But the fact that we are scoring 15 to 18pts in the 4th qt can’t be denied. It is hard for me to believe the Teague couldn’t lead the team to atleast 15pts in the 4th.
miko.wade@gmail.com
December 29th, 2010
11:49 am
Teague will be good in about 2 more years. He will never be an elite PG, but I think he will be good enough to be a floor leader. Right now, our PG’s can’t play any D on the bigger and faster guards such as: D Williams, D Rose, and Rondo.
I think the Hawks need to make some moves before the trade deadline!
Thanks,
http://www.the404list.com
Fundamentals
December 29th, 2010
11:56 am
MC – What’s the story on Horford’s hand? How long has he been dealing with the issue? What’s the prognosis on how many games he’d need to recover?
Rod from College Park
December 29th, 2010
12:16 pm
The reason Bibby is on the floor with the starters has more to do with personel than anything. Smith and Horford like to play on the perimeter, and neither has above average post moves. When teams play us they double Joe, which leaves someone on the perimeter open. Teams have not ever had to worry about Marvin, so the only guy of the starters that will get open jump shots and knock them down is Bibby. Marvin until this year, was never able to knock down open shots. Horford has become very good a knocking down the jump shot, this year as well. Bibby is one of the top 3 point shooters in the league because of the many open looks he gets based on our personel. Teauge has not proved that he can hit an open shot, and he can’t penetrate and finish either. His defense is better than Bibby and Jamal’s, but his offense is so terrible that his defense is not good enough to justify playing him before Bibby. If we start Teague, we will go thru very long scoring droughts, if Marvin can’t knock down open shots. Teams will double Joe, focus on Horford, and allow Josh Smith, Marvin, and Teague to beat them from the perimeter. I would take those odds all day. If Teague can’t shoot, he has to be able to pentrate and finish, which he has not shown that he can do.
Everyone here seems to harp on the defensive end of the floor, but again in the last two second round playoff blowouts to Cleveland, and Orlando, the Hawks averaged in the high 70’s one series, and the low 80’s in the other series. The team as constructed will not be able to score in the playoffs agianst good defensive teams unless Marvin can up his production offensively, which I doubt, and Teague (If he starts as most of you suggest) can learn how to penetrate and finish, because his jumper is broke.
O'Brien
December 29th, 2010
12:41 pm
Thanks for the link Rufus. One interesting paragraph to me was…
The Hawks are again giving up five more points per 100 possessions but they’re scoring only an extra 3.9 points per 100 possessions when Bibby, Crawford and Johnson play together.
The Hawks are essentially a .500 team (110.4 points scored, 109.6 points allowed per 100 possessions) when Bibby, Crawford and Johnson are all on the court even though, on 59 percent of the possessions they play together, Atlanta’s two best players, Al Horford and Josh Smith, share the court with them. .
Bibby has earned his PT. However, LD needs to keep a close eye on him. In the N.O. game, Bibby played 41 minutes, despite going 2-8 from the field, and he couldnt even guard Jarrett Jack.
Jamal played 34 minutes, despite only scoring 10 points, with 5 turnovers. Damien was DNPCD, Teague was DNPCD.
LD needs to do a better job of monitoring their minutes and performance. But so far, he consistently gives them guaranteed PT regardless of performance.
O'Brien
December 29th, 2010
12:43 pm
northcyde,
Dejuan Blair is balling again. Last night, dude had 17 and 15 against the Lakers. And for the season, he is averaging 7 and 7 in 20 mpg. Imagine if we had him as our backup PF.
RealSquawk
December 29th, 2010
12:54 pm
Thanks MC
Aaron
December 29th, 2010
1:01 pm
The rationale for Drew’s decisions are, sadly, similar to Mike Woodson’s:
His contract status.
LD has been given only two guaranteed years on his contract and he’s following a guy who was fired despite winning 53 games last year. Only an idiot would focus on the future.
Daniel
December 29th, 2010
1:02 pm
Big Ray- I like your post about LD, but I would say that the problems that he inherited and the comparisons to the previous coach come with the territory of hiring your own assistnat coach. Now, if you feel that LD can’t be blamed for that but it belongs with ownership then fine, but it is still up to LD to seperate himself and improve the team.
Although, I agree that it appears that LD has an inside mandate, I have never heard that spoken of publically. I have never heard LD give a coherent and consistent accounting of his role in the previous regimes failures, nor have I heard his “big picture” plan and/or goals.
Now we can assume that he is being evasive because of the big bad ownership, or we can assume that he is in over his head. The improvement in Marvin/Twin/(even a little bit)Bibby are all due to the kind of adjustments that SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE by an assistant coach. What has he done that reflects the leadership of HEAD COACH? Anyone can call timeouts and draw up plays. The head coach is supposed to LEAD.
PS: It is amussing to read all these posts calling for consistent roles for Teague, but then suggest that every player (including the 90 day free agent) get adjusted playing time. Do you guys not realize that what you are asking for is counter productive to each scenario?
O'Brien
December 29th, 2010
1:31 pm
Daniel,
The only explanation LD gave about his role in the previous coaching regime (and I might be paraphrasing a little) was that “all he could do is make suggestions, and it was up to the HC (Woody) to decide what to use”.
That is basically what LD said at his press conference.
But he is in a tough spot, because ASG and Rick said they like their core, and they just had 53 wins and a second round appearance. LD does not have to win 53 games, but I think his team MUST make it to the second round (assuming everyone is healthy during the playoffs).
Otherwise, he will be under pressure next year, and he only has 2 years guaranteed on his deal.
no crying
December 29th, 2010
1:33 pm
Both Teague and Bibby are averaging .34 points per minute of game time. (Bubby 10.6pts/29 mins; Teague 4.6/12.5 Mins) Bibby is launching a whopping 4 three pointers a game and making all of two. Which is a whole lot of nothing. If teague is the better defender then it must comes down to how Teague runs the offense. Who knows what Teague could do with 30 min a game?
It seems that by driving the lane, Teague will draw fouls and open up the rest of the team for more open shots. Speed Kills! Let Bibby come in a launch his 3 pointers then go sit down. If Williams is doing better coming off the bench then it might work for Bibby as well. Having a second unit of with Bibby, JC1, MW sounds killer to me.
WEE WEEE
December 29th, 2010
1:35 pm
nice blog. but atlantas gaurds are good
bibby will be fine, hes good with teauge on his back
what they need is a solid center and a cap space for next year..
i heard sac town is trashing cousins beacause of his attitude. sund can send them an offer and give them williams. cousins will be happy playing in a winning team and hawks can work on his attitude like they did on smith..
if they want a cap space and make use the expiring contract of jamal crawford. send crawford williams and collins to sacramento for cousins and tyreke evans.. maybe it will work
and the hawks will be a very young and talented team
drmaryb (*_*)
December 29th, 2010
1:56 pm
Pure Asinine Stupidity!
It was not a bad pick? Is a MOLE on this Blog, So yall need to:
Get Your Scroll On!
Here is the last stupid thing IT said:
“Salim should still be playing for the Hawks..The kid could shoot,drive, and flat out score.”
Memorandum: I’m SMH and Srolling @ 160 mph (my car’s speedometer).
__________________________
Let’s Just Keep it Real on here!
Mike is back
December 29th, 2010
1:56 pm
Big Ray, I will admit some bloggers get a little over zealous when assessing Bibby’s overall value to the Hawks…and Je Je…THIS DUDE…get’s downright rabbit at time with his comments.heh heh
However, I don’t think the vast majority of bloggers are implying that LD should just simply hand the starting PG job over to Teague…just give dude another chance to challenge for increased PT…he’s earned that in spite of his shortcoming…same GOES FOR Collins.
Why the focus is on LD…let’s not forget…we are dealing with cash strap owners…THAT LOVE THEIR CORE…jeeeeeez…leave it lon mike.lol
So a major upgrade at the PG position via trade is highly unlikely…what other realistic option does LD have…Heck even LD himself said he thought Bibby could use a break…would that not warrant getting young Teague some more burn…just in case Bibby ends up needing some down time to sustain his new found youth, effort and energy.
Surely, we will need Bibby to perform as good or better come the playoff…let’s try to ease the wear and tear on Bibby too…just saying.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 29th, 2010
2:04 pm
Obrien
Great Analysis! But, when will the ASKG be held accountable for NOT providing winnable TOOLS for this team!
Even Phil Jackson could NOT win with this Motley-Crew!
Who could? At some point we have to rally around ANY Coach to manage this flawed bunch of millionaires. Who do yall think could do better with ALL these TWEENERS and NO PG nor Dominant Center?
I mean – Really? Phil wouldn’t even come here for this! Who would? Besides Drew? BTW, The Little General was NEVER coming here! Nor Shaq! Nor Melo!
Who would? We got what we got and that’s ALL to it! There is no one on this roster to take us any father, we probably regressed in the off-season!
Oscar
December 29th, 2010
2:11 pm
Larry Drew wants to be around for a long time, so what does he do? Stick with the veterans so he won’t get critizized. Mike Bibby should never have received an extension. Larry is thinking short term like Mike Woodson. You win now, but lose in the playoffs. Bibby will get them killed in the playoffs.
My recommendation:
At the start of the second half the game is zero-zero, start Jeff Teague and Jamal Crawford, move Joe Johnson to the three. They would provide energy and lessen the 3rd quarter drag. Also, this way you set it up for Teague and Crawford to be in the game at the end through your substitution pattern. Sure you give up defense at the two, but you gain at the one which has a higher priority (cutoff penetration into the lane, more problems). You will need Teague for the playoffs (his defense and penetration).
drmaryb (*_*)
December 29th, 2010
2:13 pm
Please Ignore the 17 user I’d’s as one person blogging on here!
Yall, know all the BS is coming from T.S. – right?
Why even feed That – Trolle? Those of us who’ve been blogging for 4 years KNOW who the real bloggers are!
Bump That: Wee Wee sh!t and carlos and ‘nem! Don’t respond to the silliness.
IMHO.
WEE WEEE
December 29th, 2010
2:23 pm
i don’t really know which point guard will run the team
but in my point of view, maybe teague is a better defender than bibby, but what i see now is that bbiby is playing hard and better. maybe hes not a good defender but as a veteran player he knows what do and improving and working hard on hes defense,
bibby is a better shooter than teague but teauge is faster and quicker. and bbiby knows when to take a shot. maybe teague is faster than bibby but speed is not everything bibby is the only one on the team that knows how to run the team so well.
maybe the reason why LD starts bibby because:
1. hes good 3 point shooter and a threat
2. he knows how to run the team and the only one that make the right decisions often
3. hes a good passer and and knows where to give the ball
4. maybe hes slowing but hes a well experienced veteran
and lastly; hes the pg that plays better with the starting 5 and maybe the rest of the team.
yes teague is fast quick and good defender. but bibby is playing for the team, he doesn’t care if hes numbers are low or having few minutes. and hes not being selfish hes just playing to win
Lacsho
December 29th, 2010
2:53 pm
WoW, if I recall Tony Parker had a horrible jump shot when he came in the league. I can’t recall seeing him on the bench, and if I’m correct they won a championship with a young Parker. Hmmm didn’t Boston win a championship with Rondo……
SMH at you Teague haters.
LD doesn’t have a clue, he’s another Woodson. There’s no other coach in the league that would start Bibby over Teague. If anyhting bring Bibby off the bench, and keep his legs fresh. Bibby can still average double figures playing 20-25 minutes per game. Moving forward, please get rid of Mo Evans; He’s flat out horrible. Oh yeah, if your not going to play JC2, why not send him down to the D league? (I’m just saying) Do we really need Jamal Crawford? Please tell me again, why we gave JJ a max contract.
Peace,
Sho
Grandad
December 29th, 2010
2:58 pm
Rev in Tampa;
It was a weak attempt @ humor based on *{{{SteveW @ 9:46 pm}}}
Just lampooning his hyperbole.
* “I have been an average sports page reader for over 30 years,
way before there were blogs and the internet. And I’m not trying
to exagerate, but I don’t think I’ve read a finer article anywhere”
superiorblogman
December 29th, 2010
3:49 pm
Javale McGhee would put the Hawks 1 step closer to legitimacy. A young 7 FT Center that can start every game would be great. I like Collins but he is not athletic enough to start against some bigs. McGhee would be right there with Smoove in athleticism and he could learn the veteran big man defense by battling Etan and Collins.
Zaza and a 1st for McGhee
It was not a bad pick
December 29th, 2010
3:57 pm
drmaryb (*_*) ?
Salim had talent…woody never gave him a chance..the hawks coaching staff never give players the oppurtunity to shine..Jordan crawford should be in the rotation, I have no idea why Drew is not playing Teauge, He rather play Jamal at pg and not his natural position(sg)..this happens with all the Hawks young guys…Oh yeah let my nuts go..All that i ever said was that Marvin can be a big time scorer…D
Ken Strickland
December 29th, 2010
4:04 pm
For the record, my support for HC LDrew hasn’t wavered. I still think he’s proven to be a huge improvement over MWoodson, and a much better fit for the team long term. He’s not perfect, and he’s starting to demonstrate that, but I’m not going to throw the baby out with the wash.
In light of the Lakers recent woe’s, how many of you TRADE FANATICS, who seem to think making trades is the only solution to everything, feel they should immediately start breaking up the team and making trades?
Samuel
December 29th, 2010
4:30 pm
LD hasn’t proven a dam thing. We’re in 5th place with a good likely hood that we’ll finish lower and get beat in the first round of the playoffs.
Ken, there you go again, comparing back to back champions to “nobodys”. Everybody in the world (including you) know this team’s ceiling is no more than a 2nd round playoff appearance. The Lakers are proven. I don’t get it.
Teague has not taken the starting job because he too passive and has no leadership ability. As much as I have supported Mike Bibby, even I know he’s on his way down but I still don’t see Teague taking over. He has no confidence and is scared to take on the leadership role. You guys keep saying how good he is on defense. I don’t see it. he get’s beat off the dribble as much as the rest of them. Tonight will be a good test.
My Boy, Monta Ellis, will be in town. let’s see what Teague got. Will he step up or get “ABUSED”.
Grandad
December 29th, 2010
4:50 pm
New blog on front page.
Big Ray
December 29th, 2010
5:28 pm
Northcyde ,
Sorry, I can only resuce posts on my own blog. I would have loved to have read what you posted.
Samuel ,
I agree that Larry Drew is worse with Jordan Crawford when clearly the youngster can PLAY. No excuses for that, especially when he could become so much more balanced than Jamal is, if only he is developed.
Vava ,
Was that same person the one decrying Mike Bibby all offseason long and saying that Teague should take his spot?
Fundamentals
December 29th, 2010
5:45 pm
McGhee is the stout young talent that can help Al. Bring him in along with Hinrich to bolster our needs down low for Crawford. Gives them a nice expiring contract as well as a “shotmaker” to go along with Wall.
eastlaketb
December 29th, 2010
5:52 pm
i just want the best 4 the city and with what we have now we will get swept in the 1st round no dought. my new years wish is that Authur Blank some how come to our rescue and get this franchise on soilid ground. 2 make a long story short we gotta make changes top 2 bottom.
Ken Strickland
December 29th, 2010
7:05 pm
Instead of relying on mathmatical formulas to judge Bibby and Teague, let’s watch tonight’s gm and judge for ourselves. Let’s see how they fair against the Warriors very talented G’s, and see who does what against who. Then we can discuss what we saw after the gm.
Drew is a dumb ass
December 29th, 2010
7:29 pm
Drew better play Teague.
Here come stup!d Mo Evans
December 29th, 2010
7:32 pm
Enter your comments here
Here come stup!d Mo Evans
December 29th, 2010
7:32 pm
or not.
jase
December 29th, 2010
7:50 pm
were is teague
Samuel
December 29th, 2010
8:12 pm
Ken,so far, Bibby is winning hands down. LOL!!
Wabe
December 29th, 2010
8:52 pm
That last fast break is the ideal example why I can’t stand Mo Evans.
He’s a F’N bum.
You have a 3 on 2 and as soon as Jamal passes the ball to Mo – Mo takes it right to the rack himself and misses the layup.
hawksfan12
December 30th, 2010
12:30 pm
can we please trade mike bibby and jaml crawford to the bobcats for DJ augustin and gerald wallace? the bobcats want a veteran guard and a scoring guard. they get both and we get rid of jamal crawford’s contract and bring in a point gaurd who averages more points than bibby anyway. plus wallace can contribute 2