Atlanta Hawks: Hornets 93, Hawks 86
Ariza and the Hornets dominated the Hawks inside. (Matthew Hinton/The Times-Picayune)
New Orleans–The Hornets are a very good defensive team. Once they started playing like it, the Hawks couldn’t score.
- The Hornets are a very good pick-and-roll team. Once they started playing like it, the Hawks couldn’t stop them.
- Neither of those things should be surprising. Look at the top teams in defensive efficiency, and then notice how Atlanta’s sizzling offense has grind to a halt against all of them at winning time.
- And by now the sight of a good point guard slicing through Atlanta’s defense to score or set up others is so common as to be expected. CP3 might be the best at it, and he methodically carved up the Hawks in the third quarter.
- “As bad as that third quarter was, we were still right there and had a chance,” L.D. said. “But against good teams we have to be able to follow through on the game plan, especially defensively. On the road you have to have better shot selection.”
- Smoove was the guiltiest party on the latter. He’s getting jump shot happy again and now they aren’t falling. He did have 12 rebounds but foul trouble limited him to 28 minutes and, in another unsurprising development, the Hornets got free run at the rim when he was out of the game.
- The Hawks came out smoking. They moved the ball, made shots and attacked the rim to get calls. Joe and Marvin looked unstoppable. The Hornets were a step behind. “We let them move the ball where they wanted to,” David West said.
- And then the Hornets decided to be more aggressive guarding the perimeter. Now Joe, hounded by Ariza, couldn’t find room to operate. Marvin couldn’t finish. Okafor owned the paint.
- The Hawks scored just 31 points after halftime. “We stopped running, we stopped pushing the basketball for easy transition points and we started settling for jump shots,” L.D. said.
- That’s what tends to happen when the scoring gets harder for the Hawks.
- “I thought we got out and rattled them a little bit, got them off balance,” West said “Joe Johnson is one of the best players in the league, so obviously you are not going to just shut him down completely. But I thought we made his alleys a little more crowded and forced him into some tough looks.”
- The Hawks would to well to emulate the Hornets under coach Monty Williams. “They have done a tremendous job defensively,” L.D. said. “Looking at where they were last year and where they are this year, they have made the commitment defensively and put together some great games.”
- The Hornets also have better defensive players than the Hawks, but still.
- Atlanta’s nine-point halftime lead was gone fast. Paul assisted on two baskets during 13-4 run. “We started the third quarter and we just didn’t come out with any energy,” Drew said. “We came out very lethargic.”
- Or, you know, it could be that a great pick-and-roll player picked apart a weak pick-and-roll defense.
- “We missed some defensive assignments against him on how we were defending the pick-and-roll,” Drew said. “Then we tried to mix it up and play a little zone to get him off balance a little bit. But he made some shots and he got too deep on us on the pick-and-roll a couple times. We went underneath, which was a missed assignment.
- Paul was strangely passive in the first half and then suddenly became animated in the third quarter. In one stretch he scored 11 of his team’s 13 points and assisted on the other basket. He screamed and pounded his chest as the the Hornets’ second-largest crowd of the season snapped from its slumber.
- “One thing we didn’t want to do was let him get going and get the crowd into it,” L.D. said.
- The Hawks tried everyone who wasn’t a point guard to slow Paul. Joe, Marvin and Mo all took turns on him. The Hawks even tried zones with Al and Smoove at the top. “He’s seen every coverage by now,” Jamal said. “You just have to live with it sometimes.”
- Atlanta’s defense took a hit when Marvin was forced to the sidelines with cramping. He started the fourth quarter but went out for Josh with the Hawks down 80-78. Marvin received IV fluids after the game.
- Mo went out for J.J. at that point, too, a fact he pointed out more than once afterward.
- “The game was tied at 78-78 and then I think we were stagnant in the latter part of the game,” Mo said. “The They continued to run their offense. CP continued to create for other guys and put it in position where all they had to do was score the ball or shoot it. They got great looks every time down the floor and eventually that is going to win out.”
- Al played just eight minutes in the first half because of the two-foul rule. He tried to attack the basket in the second half but Okafor and West made it tough. The Hornets took 15 more shots in the paint (38) than Atlanta and enjoyed a 48-22 advantage in points.
- Joe said the three-day break helped his elbow. He wore a brace over that time and said he can extend the arm more than before: “I don’t know how much straighter it’s going to get, though.”
- He looked pretty smooth, especially in the first half. “I was kind of taking what the defense gives me,” he said. “Our offense, basically everybody is moving the basketball, and if you are open, you take the shot.”
- That’s how it worked in the first half, but what happened in the second? “The ball just stopped moving,” Joe said. “And then I thought we settled a lot in that second half when we could have been driving and making plays for other guys and getting to the basket or getting to the line.”
- The Hawks attempted 18 free throws in the first half and six after halftime.
- Jamal went into attack mode in the second half. The results were mixed. He had eight points, four turnovers and no assists after halftime. “It definitely felt rusty,” he said.
MC
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Damon
December 27th, 2010
6:42 pm
I wonder if the other head coaches laugh at L.D. throughout the course of the game when they see how easy Drew makes it for the opposing team to impose their will and win the ball game.
Samuel
December 27th, 2010
6:42 pm
GD,
Of course your points are valid. I have had a great holiday so far. I just got back from Tupelo, Mississippi. My Momma and Daddy are both doing great.Tremendous hoops and Laker fans at 75. We got to watch hoops all day, eat that good dressing and kick it.
How has your holiday gone so far?
Grandad
December 27th, 2010
6:47 pm
One more point;
sorry I forgot…..
motion offense in the NBA is simply a *set play with
multiple player movement and ball reversal.
There is not enough time to run true motion where you run
continuous motion until the defense breaks down.
However, making the defense change sides of the floor is
integral to any offense.
Joe stops ‘anything’ -&- ‘everything’ we try to do which
allows the defense not only to adjust but to double team him
and trap plus all kind of combo schemes.
If Joe will not adjust;
he needs to be traded or you have cut the legs from under LD.
Therefore, why was LD given a chance?
This team has talent.
This team has a solid though inexperienced Coach.
[getting better with every game]
Why is it not excelling (the core)?
The pieces don’t fit !
Were Red Auerbach coaching he pieces still would be maladjusted.
[mladjstd probly nt the rght wrd, I just wnted to use it]
Grandad
December 27th, 2010
6:52 pm
Samuel
Grandkids are in Tex, can’t wait ’til they get home.
Other than that, Very, Very Merry Holidays with the
rest of my young’uns and the family.
dell706
December 27th, 2010
6:58 pm
I just want to know why Drew continues to play Bibby even when he’s not doing crap. Even though Teague makes his turnovers, so does everybody else! It wouldn’t be no different but you got a quicker PG on the floor who can actually get to the whole when he wants, that opens up shots for other people so it really doesn’t make sense the excuse he keep giving for not playing Teague. The 2 excuses are turnovers and he’s not a shotmaker but with him driving he can open up shots for everybody and Joe doesn’t have to do it. You can be a effective PG without makin shots like that….Rondo!!
JeJe
December 27th, 2010
7:00 pm
ASG’s #1 goal is for someone on the team to always be injured. That way, they always have a scapegoat when we lose in the Playoffs and can then keep core next year since they hate spending money.
WE HAD INJURIES VS. CLEVELAND AND GOT KILLED IN 4 IN 2009
WE WERE HEALTHY VS. ORLANDO THIS YEAR AND GOT KILLED WORSE THAN ANY TEAM HAS IN NBA HISTORY
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CLEVELAND SERIES? WE HAVE NO IMPROVED IN THE LAST 2 YEARS. WE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO MENTIONS THE CLEVELAND SERIES. PEOPLE ACT LIKE ORLANDO WAS THE ONLY TIME THIS TEAM HAS GOTTEN KILLED.
SUND NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES WE GOT SWEPT 2 YEARS IN A ROW – ONLY ORLANDO
FIRE SUND
Najeh Davenpoop
December 27th, 2010
7:01 pm
They actually played better against Cleveland, despite the injuries, than they did against Orlando. Game 3 against Cleveland was competitive until about 5 minutes remained in the game. None of the games against Orlando were competitive.
lewis
December 27th, 2010
7:02 pm
Fanbase is begging for an impact center and has been for quite some time
Fanbase is begging for a point guard and has been for quite some time
My ohio friend says it best about the Hawks , “…the players just look like they hate each other”
Fundamentals
December 27th, 2010
7:03 pm
I’m not all down with the Drew hate. I am surprised in his decisions to not play Teague and JC2, but if we’re winning…why risk it? Problem is we’re not since the hot start. Slowly we’re inching back towards the same issues Woodson got fired for.
LD is definitely in love with offense & shooters. He has no real adjustments on defense. He has no way to hold folks accountable…mainly because DUDE AIN’T GOT THE PIECES. Woody didn’t, LD doesn’t. Face it. Good teams exploit us for what we don’t have. If we aren’t on our game, we lose the game. It’s just that simple.
Trade out 4-5 vet min contracts for the $20-30 million extra dollars worth of players the elite teams have and we can compete!
THANKS ASG! Everyone blames Sund, LD, our team, but it’s plain and simple we’re not on the same level. Don’t expect inferior talent to draw big crowds and interest when we know superior talent will just roll us in the 2nd round.
Don’t get me wrong…I love this team. I root for every player, every night, but in the end I’m not surprised by the results.
O'Brien
December 27th, 2010
7:04 pm
Out of their 13 losses, Hawks have had 5 quarters where they score less than 15 points. Thats unacceptable
ag
December 27th, 2010
7:06 pm
I am also dissapointed in LD. The ASG should have hired a real coach, or if they hired an assistant, one froma another team. I cannot believe someone said start Marvin over Josh. When I watch the games, Josh is very polished on his inside moves. He should stay in the paint and on occasion shoot a jumper. I watch Teague against Boston and he was great that first half. He just needs to play about 30-35 minutes a game. I would bring trade for an athletic big to run the floor (I still think Kwame would have been okay here)… or even Tabeet… don’t need you to score, just play a ton of defense, run the floor and dunk the ball!
Grandad
December 27th, 2010
7:07 pm
Elliot’
Al’s my favorite Hawk but not a dominant low post scoring threat.
Think; Kareem, Hakeem, Shaq (younger), even DH
Al, more of a mid-range scoring threat.
(MR jumper = bread & butter)
Damon,
I’m quite certain there are 19 teams whose HC’s are
laughing their hiney off @ LD.
Sarcasm intended.
Grandad
December 27th, 2010
7:09 pm
Uh Oh;
LeBron opened his mouth and an “Ass Clown” jumped out again !
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:10 pm
Bibby is our smartest on court basketball player, with real on court sense and vision. He almost never makes a bad pass, and seemingly always knows where the ball is going next when it reaches his hands. Perfect for the motion offense in those ways.
On the other hand Teague is a great athlete. Possibly the quickest 1st step in the NBA according to some. But he is going to make turnovers, and is not a natural PG. I say Drew is going to have to take his lumps and play Teague more. He has more upside than downside, and is a far better defender than Bibby at this point. LD – develop the kid. I don’t want to go through Acie Law again.
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:15 pm
Al Horford is probably our 2nd smartest on court player. He plays very good D, unless just physically overmatched by his opponent. Averages 3.5 assists per game. Has created 86 3 pt. jump shot situations by passing out from the paint, compared to only 36 for Dwight, who also only has 1.1 assist per game on average. Run your offense through Al, you’ll be glad you did. NBA insider types know the value of Al.
Fundamentals
December 27th, 2010
7:21 pm
Who needs AC when LD can break out the Royal Ivey treatment…or better yet Salim Stoudamire treatment. Kid has shown considerable improvement and yet, he’s benched.
Fundamentals
December 27th, 2010
7:25 pm
Is it LD, the team or Al who doesn’t run that offense through Al down low. Al is a pick and pop PF. Smoove also wants to be on the perimeter. Who wants to get down low? Who wants to really muscle- neither of these two. Reason = foul trouble #1 and fatigue #2. They don’t feel like they have backup.
Collins is trying, but ZaZa and Thomas are a total let down. What’s up with Powell not playing tough anymore…or really playing at all? Is it the knee or is he in the new doghouse.
ag
December 27th, 2010
7:26 pm
At some point they will realize how unhappy we are and make some changes! I cannot pay good money to watch this team live and now I don’t catch every game.
Fundamentals
December 27th, 2010
7:31 pm
I catch every game, but its tough to fork out the $ not knowing which Hawks team will show up night in and night out. In all honesty though, what NBA franchise is filling the seats of late? I live on average means. It takes alot to muster up 2 tickets, travel, parking and food. I know plenty are in the same boat.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:32 pm
“If Al and Josh are the only 2 (legit) frontcourt players on this team, Hawks will have a hard time reaching the ECF.”
They havent been to an ECF in 23 freakin YEARS!!! It may probably another 23 years with this dysfunctional franchise…
JJ does not trust his lousy teammates that why hes a ball hog because he know these pretenders, so called pro’s suck wind. Can’t get it done in crunch time, especially on the road. Mental midgets when it comes to basketball execution! Come on JJ keep hoisting those jumpers tonight and drop 40 pts. That’s the only way we have chance to win. LD bench Josh in the 4th quarter again if your really interested in a road win cause this guy is clueless.
Sund=Billy Knight(Worst GM in Hawks history).
Elliot
December 27th, 2010
7:33 pm
Grandad,
I agree that Horford is clearly not on the same level as guys like Kareem, Hakeem, or Shaq. Dwight Howard shouldn’t be in that conversation at all, in my opinion. He’s improving, but he’s nowhere near that level. Dwight has to be within 5-8 feet to be effective, or at point blank range right now. What makes Dwight a dangerous player in the post is the fact that he draws a lot of fouls due to his aggressiveness and a hint of superstar favoritism.
At any rate, I was talking about Al with respect to the way the game is today. If you look around the league, there really aren’t that many “dominant” low post players anymore. Looking at the east, there are 3 good post players: Boozer, Howard, Garnett. That’s about it. As far as the west goes, Gasol is a very skilled post player, along with Tim Duncan, but outside of those two, only Chris Kaman really has a true low-post game. There are other players, such as Al Jefferson and Kevin Love who are capable of playing in the post, but I wouldn’t say that they are more effective there than Al is.
The point I’m trying to make here is that although Al is not a “dominant” post player yet, he is more than suitable as a post threat when compared with the rest of the league, and there are statistics to support that claim. Horford, obviously has a ways to go in that department, but he is showing a lot of progress. His footwork looks great, he’s really learned how to use his body to create space, he’s incorporating some counter moves, and makes smart decisions when he gets doubled in the post. He obviously still needs to work on developing something over his right shoulder, among other things, but even as is, he is very serviceable in the post, and the team needs to make a conscious effort to take further advantage of this.
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:34 pm
Josh Smith – Something is wrong. He has played identical minutes in November and December (34.1 mpg), but his production is down, especially his shot blocking. He is down:
1 point per game on average (not bad)
His blocks per game have decrease by 33%, from 2.4 to 1.6 (that is bad)
His rebounding has decreased by 1.4 per game (9.3 to 7.9), that’s bad, but he has picked it up lately.
His FG% is down by 7.6% – from 50.8 to 43.2 – that is really bad.
His steals are down from 1.7 per game to 1.2 per game.
Now remember, this is playing identical minutes in both November and December.
He’s averaging a full assist less per game in December, 3.4 in Dec. as opposed to 4.4 in November.
He’s 3-14 in the last 6 games from 3 point land.
Something is definitely wrong with Smoove.
lp
December 27th, 2010
7:36 pm
What star of a team doesn’t hold the ball. And if Joe doesn’t score then its, we paid all this money for this so on and so forth. Let Joe do what he does he is the highest paid let him earn his worth. Y’all act like he is not the 3rd best sg in the l. I’ve seen trade joe and start jamal that’s laughable. Josh i can see traded if anyone, unless he can play his position. The scoring should be Joe, Al, Marvin, Josh. If josh can provide defense and energy, everything else would flow, but he wants to be the star so it throws the balance off.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:36 pm
Al does not even know how to drop step. He’s years from ever being a low post threat if ever…Too bad we missed getting the #2 pick that year(Kevin Durrant). Billy would have screwed that up too….
Steve
December 27th, 2010
7:41 pm
I would say that the biggest problem with Smoove lately is his decision making. You can directly correlate his poor decision making with his decreased statistics. Smoove’s shot selection has been terrible, hence the 7.6% decrease in FG%. He is overhandling the ball and making bad decisions with his passing, hence the decrease in assists. He is gambling more in the post (going for the steal and giving up open layups/dunks), hence resulting in fewer blocks and rebounds, and he doesn’t seem to be playing with the same type of energy or hustle either. I think what Smoove really needs a no-nonsense, disciplinarian type of coach, who will bench him, regardless of the situation, if he doesn’t follow throw with the gameplan and play to his strengths. Smoove has always been stubborn, and it’s clear that L.D.’s lack of accountability is giving him no incentive to play with anymore control or maturity.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:42 pm
‘Something is definitely wrong with Smoove.
Yea he knows deep down he has not enough game to be an ALLStar. He got married this summer the Honeymoon maybe wearing off…..HAHAHA….
Brandon
December 27th, 2010
7:43 pm
@slimjr
LMAO. Do you even know what a drop step is? Al uses a drop step on almost every post-up opportunity when he is isolated on the right block. I wonder if you’ve even been watching the games. You want have to look far to see what I’m talking about. Look at last night’s game, and notice how Al played in the post the few times that he was given the ball. He may not have converted on all of those opportunities, but his fundamentals were very sound.
Brandon
December 27th, 2010
7:44 pm
correction on my last post: *you won’t have to look far, not “want have to look far”.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:46 pm
Trade Josh for Rudy Gay YESTERDAY….
Just the truth
December 27th, 2010
7:48 pm
No real of improvement of talent, no type of care from ASG to get a proven coach= A very middle of the pack season. Face it hawks the world of (we are what our say we are). Next offseason can we get a superstar pls. Someone who sell out the stadium without having to say the other teams best guy when advertising the game. The hawks will make the playoffs but the truth is I would rather rebuild than show a half A*& effort to compete.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:48 pm
Al plays like Gradmama.. Yawn.. The 3 stooges(JOSH,AL,MARVIN) are going to get destroyed come playoff time..Keep watchin…Keep dreamin..
LionHearted
December 27th, 2010
7:50 pm
Man who the hell wants to watch the Hawks 2nite when the Falcons are gonna be on LMAO
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:51 pm
Hawks drafts. Someone in defending the Hawks drafts under Billy Knight said, well at least every Hawk drafted in the 1st round since 2001 is still in the NBA except DeMarr Johnson because of his accident.
Dan Dickau, who we traded for as the 28th pick in the 1st round in 2002 is not in the League anymore.
We drafted Jamal Tinsley #27 the year before, but traded him because we didn’t think he could play in the NBA. He then averaged 8.1 and 7.5 assists per game the next 2 years, and led the Pacers to the 2004 ECF.
And we now have 2 lottery picks from the last 5 years playing for the vet minimum: Shelden Williams at #5 and Acie Law at #11.
According to NBA parlance, a top 5 pick is to be a star in the League. He is to be one of the top 10 players at his position within 2-3 years, not a vet minimum guy not playing at all basically with the Celtics last year.
Picks 6-15 are supposed to be starters within 2-3 years in the NBA, not a guy hanging on by a thread (last I checked) in the NBA playing for the vet minimum.
And we also had the 1st pick in the 2nd round, #31 overall, who is out of the NBA by the name of Salim Stoudamire.
So don’t give me this stuff that the Hawks draft well. They haven’t. And going back to the 90’s were historically bad at drafting.
Now I think that JT and JC2 were the best we could get at #19 and #27 respectively, but I think they are currently being coached down possibly, where we may be looking at 2 more 1st picks as vet minimum guys in the near future. But it wouldn’t surprise me if Teague went somewhere else if he didn’t blossom, maybe JC2 also.
Then we have 2
ag
December 27th, 2010
7:56 pm
lp,
Joe is NOT a superstar! He is the highest paid player on the team. Joe is a Robin, a Pippen, a side kick! The legend says MJ missed more game winning shots than he made, but he made quite a few. Joe rarely makes the big shots or carries us in the 4th. He tries, but he is rarely successful.
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:58 pm
I really can’t wait until next season when we let Mo’ and Jamal walk. Then LD will have to play Teague and JC2 I would think.
On drafting, the Hawks have had exactly 2 good draft picks in the last 10 years +: Al Horford and Josh Smith.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
7:58 pm
Billy Knight, one of the most arrogant mothers I ever heard in a radio interview with 790 the Zone said quote: ” I am the so called basketball expert!” What a j****A@#…………..
Billy thanks for screwing this franchise for another 10 years..You Genius!! NOT…………….
SteveW
December 27th, 2010
7:59 pm
Oh, we did draft Pau Gasol in 2001, but we traded he Lorenzen Wright and Brevin Knight for Shareef and the #27 pick we used on Jamal Tinsley.
slimjr
December 27th, 2010
8:00 pm
Joe you are the superstar on this team. IOS tonight and light it Sir!!! Hoist them jumpers cause the rest of your team sucks wind..Come on Joe I am rooting for ya tonight!!!!
Bailey
December 27th, 2010
8:02 pm
SteveW,
It’s sad that we would have to wait until next season to get rid of Mo and Jamal, rather than having our ownership take action early-on, but that’s just the way it goes around here. Franchises that are serious about winning and improving don’t take the “sit and wait” approach. Unfortunately, we are not one of those franchises.
JeJe
December 27th, 2010
8:06 pm
ASG’s #1 goal is for someone on the team to always be injured. That way, they always have a scapegoat when we lose in the Playoffs and can then keep core next year since they hate spending money.
WE HAD INJURIES VS. CLEVELAND AND GOT KILLED IN 4 IN 2009
WE WERE HEALTHY VS. ORLANDO THIS YEAR AND GOT KILLED WORSE THAN ANY TEAM HAS IN NBA HISTORY
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CLEVELAND SERIES? WE HAVE NO IMPROVED IN THE LAST 2 YEARS. WE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO MENTIONS THE CLEVELAND SERIES. PEOPLE ACT LIKE ORLANDO WAS THE ONLY TIME THIS TEAM HAS GOTTEN KILLED.
SUND NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES WE GOT SWEPT 2 YEARS IN A ROW – ONLY ORLANDO
FIRE SUNDASG’s #1 goal is for someone on the team to always be injured. That way, they always have a scapegoat when we lose in the Playoffs and can then keep core next year since they hate spending money.
WE HAD INJURIES VS. CLEVELAND AND GOT KILLED IN 4 IN 2009
WE WERE HEALTHY VS. ORLANDO THIS YEAR AND GOT KILLED WORSE THAN ANY TEAM HAS IN NBA HISTORY
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THE CLEVELAND SERIES? WE HAVE NO IMPROVED IN THE LAST 2 YEARS. WE HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.
I AM THE ONLY PERSON WHO MENTIONS THE CLEVELAND SERIES. PEOPLE ACT LIKE ORLANDO WAS THE ONLY TIME THIS TEAM HAS GOTTEN KILLED.
SUND NEVER ACKNOWLEDGES WE GOT SWEPT 2 YEARS IN A ROW – ONLY ORLANDO
FIRE SUND.
JeJe
December 27th, 2010
8:06 pm
NAJEH, THAT PROVES MY POINT. WE WERE WORSE LAST YEAR THAN THE YEAR BEFORE IN THE PLAYOFFS.
AND WE ARE WORSE NOW THAN IN ANY OF THE 2 YEARS
FIRE SUND
ASG YOU GUYS BLOW
brigadierjerry
December 27th, 2010
8:13 pm
I think the biggest problem with the hawks is that you cannot have a team that has two players that play the same position and that is Josh Smith and Al Horford. Someone of the two is always going to be playing out of position and it doesnt work in the long run. This is similar although a different position as to when Ewing and Bill Cartwright was together. It didnt work out and Cartwright was traded for Charles Oakley a power forward which worked fine because Ewing was already a center. Also same thing with Olajuwon and Ralph Sampson.
Also, all have made valid points regarding style of play LD wants to go with motion offense and Joe Johnson wanting to do iso. Either the motion offense will have to be adopted by the team or than moves will have to be made so that the motion offense philosphy is done.
Also, it is obvious that LD is trying to get wins instead of developing players and if he wants to do that then moves need to be made because this is a win now team. It is very hard to win now and develop players at the same time. If you want to develop players than team will have to be blown up
Najeh Davenpoop
December 27th, 2010
8:14 pm
Wait, why does Smoove get booed by the Bucks crowd again? I know he said something last year, but I forgot…
drmaryb (*_*)
December 27th, 2010
8:29 pm
Josh Said: “Everybody knows there is nothing to do in Milwaukee.”
Mimicking Joakim Noah’s dissing of Cleveland. LOL!
Then Josh lined up 5 Limos to Party in Chicago! SMH.
kwooden1
December 27th, 2010
8:32 pm
Nice start to the game. Collins is really helping out with the rebounding and clogging up the middle.
Not making our free-throws though.
kwooden1
December 27th, 2010
8:40 pm
Good minutes by Teague, its definitely a lot better to have Teague on Boykins rather than Bibby.
kwooden1
December 27th, 2010
8:49 pm
This is definitely the best offensive I’ve seen the HAWKS play offensively all year. The starters are hitting shots and the bench is looking good. Crawford just had a real bad foul on Dooling, but overall the defensive isn’t that bad.
ITS all about....
December 27th, 2010
9:13 pm
MI CH AE L V I C K
T.S.
December 27th, 2010
9:17 pm
Elliot when you compare horford to the leagues average center he is average and by no means beneath the average center. And you are right when you compare him to the upper tier he comes up short… no pun intended.
The question you want to ask is can you win a title with “average” at the critical position of center?
slimjr
December 28th, 2010
12:12 am
Yes you can win or compete for a title with an average center but you need Kevin Garnett at the 4,Paul Pierce at the 3 and the best 3pt shooting guard at the 2 in Ray Allen! The Center is not as critical as you believe when your other spots are filled with HOF and or Allstars…