Atlanta Hawks: MC speaks. You can listen.
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JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
11:28 am
Ha heard this yesterday.
You need to start creating some trade rumors!
Carmelo, Andre Miller, Pryzbilla, Nash….etc
Great stuff
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
11:29 am
SECOND
cdog
December 22nd, 2010
11:36 am
wishful thinking but you must face the fact that as long as rick sund is the GM for the hawks, there will be no moves to immprove and the team will be stuck in mediocrity
Ernest
December 22nd, 2010
11:47 am
cdog, it is not Rick Sund but the owners. The owners have proven they are willing to pay. The question now is are they willing to trade from their core to improve the team.
tonegully
December 22nd, 2010
12:26 pm
Im with you MC. The hawks are sitting around doing nothing. We cant even beat the Nets. Please do something. Crawford BIbby and 1st for Chris Paul. Get it done.
But i dont think the Magic improved with that trade though. we shall see down the road.
Coscro
December 22nd, 2010
12:37 pm
MC good job. I take exception to you and the others saying the Hawks have stood pat though. The Jamal move was our move. It worked wonderfully last year. JJ was also our big move. None of the other teams in the SE besides Miami had a top 3 rotation player up for renewal. I mean not to be a homer, but with all the movement being done we sit exactly in the spot we were last year, 2nd in the SE and 4th in the conference. I love to see a homerun move made, but not just a move for the sake of movement.
Michael Cunningham
December 22nd, 2010
1:01 pm
@Coscro: i see what you are saying re: Jamal and J.J. i just don’t think that’s enough to overtake the Celtics and the Heat since the former got much deeper and the latter got much better. i’m assuming the Magic also will make another deal for a backup center, in which case they also could be better. emphasis on “could” though because they did take a risk. i’m curious to see what the Hawks can do now that they are healthy.
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
1:03 pm
Can we please trade for a PG and start getting respect back from the media? I don’t think one person outside of the organization truly believes this team can compete as is.
WE NEED A POINT GUARD
JEFF TEAGUE WILL NOT START FOR THIS FRANCHISE
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
1:05 pm
MC: “i’m curious to see what the Hawks can do now that they are healthy.”
Is Jamal returning tonight?
Worldwide Clyde
December 22nd, 2010
1:06 pm
Free Jordan Crawford
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
1:13 pm
EVIDENTLY ASG IS FILLED WITH BUSINESSMEN WHO ARE CAUTIOUS AT WHAT THEY DO…WHILE BEING CAUTIOUS DOESNT ALWAYS PRODUCE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE RESULTS, A LOT OF TIMES BEING CAUTIOUS AT LEAST PRODUCES A SAFE RESULT…THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, THE ASG COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WINNING OR LOSING AS LONG AS THEY MAINTAIN PROFITABILITY AND A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE..AND IT IS FOR THIS REASON WHY THE HAWKS WILL ALWAYS BE MEDIOCRE WITH THIS OWNERSHIP GROUP..SIMPLY PUT THE VOICE OF THE ASG ( IF IT EXISTS) ,THAT IS A RISK TAKER’S VOICE,ISNT BEING HEARD AMONGST THE ASG…KEEPING THE CORE IS THE ASG’S “CAUTIOUS” BET, WHILE BUILDING A CHAMPIONSHIP WOULD INVOLVE TAKING A ” RISK”..THE ASG IS FILLED WITH GUYS WHO DON’T TAKE “RISKS” AND THAT IS WHY THE HAWKS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH THE ASG…THE ASG DOESNT TAKE “RISKS”
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
1:13 pm
What is taking so damn long to send guys to the NBDL?
Why did we pay extra to buy out Pape Sy if he isn’t even going to play in the NBA or NBDL? Great team management, Rick Stunk!
oldtimer
December 22nd, 2010
1:27 pm
ATL raised Indy living “WHILE BEING CAUTIOUS DOESNT ALWAYS PRODUCE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE RESULTS, A LOT OF TIMES BEING CAUTIOUS AT LEAST PRODUCES A SAFE RESULT”.
This has been ASG mode of operation. That has gotten Hawks to second round twice. But now, we know we have peaked. The fans know. The crowds are getting smaller. If I am a good businessman, I have to inject excitement into the fan base, or the safe profit margin built on top of year to year improvements, will surely go down, as it already has started.
O'Brien
December 22nd, 2010
1:29 pm
From the previous blog;
JeJe,
I think Camby has one year left after this one, at $9 mil. That eliminates him from the Hawks (imo). With Al’s extension kicking in next year, and a new CBA, I dont see the Hawks picking up much salary, so if they trade Jamal, they would want another expiring in return (like Pryzbilla).
And I’m not sure Andre Miller would be a good fit.
And as for Josh being a sixth man, I think he would have a big problem with it, and would do what he does…Pout.
MsDee
December 22nd, 2010
1:36 pm
Its sad to say but the ONLY way the Hawks make a move is if they stink it up like Orlando has been doing the last 8-9 games. We would HAVE to go on a huge losing streak WITH EVERYONE HEALTHY! If top players are hurt like JJ, Marvin, and Mo out, Sund feels a losing streak is b/c of hurt players, BUT IF ALL ARE HEALTHY and STILL LOSING, then and only then u will see a change in the roster..TRUTH ME!! In the eyes of Sund & ASG, we are 4th in the east with a great chance of topping Miami in the division if they go on a losing streak being that they have YET to play the Lakers, Chicago, and the Spurs..with 2 more games to play against Boston and the new look Orlando!
ignition
December 22nd, 2010
1:36 pm
Basically Jeff Teague needs to show up….
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
1:38 pm
What is in a Coach?
Coaching is what you do, when, you don’t have as much talent than the other team.
See The Bucks and Scott Skiles defeat The Lakers and Phil Jackson last night without Brandon Jennings. That my friends was Coaching.
Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick
December 22nd, 2010
1:38 pm
Interesting. …………………
Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick
December 22nd, 2010
1:39 pm
Interesting podcast I mean…………….
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
1:41 pm
Woman on Fire!
Ms.Dee said: TRUTH ME!
Damn Ms. Dee that’s fresh!
Tdub
December 22nd, 2010
1:42 pm
Lets rent Melo for the remainder of this season. Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, and a 1st round pick. If we go deep in the playoffs, Melo might want to stay.If he decides 2 leave it is still worth it because 18 mill will be off the books and thats not counting Crawford and Mo expiring contracts. Plus JJ, Melo, and Al is better than Melo and Stoudemire any day. We offer him the best chance 2 win now.
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
1:43 pm
Who would be an ideal PG for the Hawks to pick up (no fantasy BS)?
I, along with a couple fellow bloggers, really like Hinrich; however, given that the Wiz was able to move Arenas, I doubt they would be looking to move another PG. Andre Miller may very well be available and is a solid PG, but I, too, worry about fit. I doubt the Magic would be willing to trade one of their PGs to us. Any other suggestions?
Who would be an ideal C for the Hawks to pick up (no fantasy BS)?
I’ve beaten this horse to death, but I would love to see the Hawks make a move for Camby. Pryzbilla would not be bad either. Wonder if the Suns would think about moving Lopez or Gortat … I would love to see the Hawks pick up either. Who else might be available, attainable, and a possible good acquisition?
MsDee
December 22nd, 2010
1:45 pm
lol…wow, I totally mis-spelled that. I meant Trust Me!! LOL
MsDee
December 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm
Why dont I like the idea of Andre Miller being an idea to come here? For some strange reason, he reminds me of another Bibby!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm
Bait Car!
tubd: fellas don’t take that bait, it’s a dead end street, a trick a hoax!
Scroll past the asinine commenters, please don’t let that foolishness stop the blog traffic from free flowing! It’s a bottle-neck!
SMH!
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
1:50 pm
@MsDee: Miller is not Bibby. Bibby can shoot the 3!
Coscro
December 22nd, 2010
1:51 pm
MC I completely understand your points. It will be interesting to see what we have in the next 3 weeks. I honestly think our best bet is to wait until the Melo issue is close to being resolved before we put our best foot forward.
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
1:53 pm
My worry about Miller is similar to Roy’s concerns about Miller: (1) Because Miller has no outside shot, he cannot really spread the defense. (2) Roy claims that Miller’s style of play meshed with Roy’s style of play. If there is really something to this complaint, then Miller and JJ might not mesh well together.
However, Miller is a solid PG (floor general, facilitator) and he plays defense a bit better than Bibby.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm
I BELIEVE THAT THE ASG WILL DO A SCENARIO SIMILAR TO THIS…THEY WILL DUMP AS MANY BIG SALARIES AS THEY CAN AND DECIDE TO BREAK UP THE CORE AND REBUILD TO CREATE A RECESSIONALIZED( I KNOW ITS NOT A WORD) FRANCHISE….
AGAIN THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION, BUT ITS JUST WHAT I THINK WILL BE A SIMILARITY, HERE GOES…
RECESSIONALIZED TEAM – SALARY DUMP TEAM OF CENTURY
TRADE #1: MARVIN WILLIAMS AND ZAZA PACHULIA TO LA FOR JEROME JORDAN AND AL-FARROQ AMINU
TRADE #2 : TWIN TO ORLANDO FOR EARL CLARK
TRADE #3: JEFF TEAGUE AND MO EVANS TO INDIANA FOR A.J.PRICE, LANCE STEPHENSON, AND A 2ND ROUND DRAFT PICK
TRADE #4: JOSH SMITH TO HOUSTON FOR JORDAN HILL AND 1ST ROUND PICK
TRADE #5: MIKE BIBBY AND JAMAL CRAWFORD TO L.A.CLIPPERS FOR ERIC GORDAN
TRADE #6 : JOE JOHNSON TO PHILADELPHIA FOR MATEESE SPEIGHTS AND SPENCER HAWES
POTENTIAL ” SALARY DUMP ” LINE UP
C – SPENCER HAWES
PF – AL HORFORD
SF – DAMIEN WILKINS
SG – JORDAN CRAWFORD
PG – ERIC GORDAN
BENCH
PF/SF- JOSH POWELL
SF/PF- EARL CLARK
PG- A.J. PRICE
C- JEROME JORDAN
PF- JORDAN HILL
SF/SG – AL-FAROOQ AMINU
PF/C – MATEESE SPEIGHTS
INJURED RESERVES
C – ETAN THOMAS
SG/PG – PAPE SY
SG- LANCE STEPHENSON
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
2:12 pm
SO WHERE IS BOOBOO?
WHERE’S THIS NASH TRADE?
LMAO
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
2:14 pm
SO WHERE IS BOOBOO?
WHERE’S THIS NASH TRADE?
LMAO.
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
2:20 pm
Being that Ty Lawson is the pg of the future in Denver, we should just wait on Melo to go to NY, and then go after Billups. Nuggets get Mo and Jamal’s expirings and a 1st. We get the PG and the LEADER this team needs all at once.
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
2:22 pm
They can have Teague too if they want him. Bibby can backup Billups.
Ramon
December 22nd, 2010
2:39 pm
Melo’s going to Dallas.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
2:39 pm
TERRELL, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SCENARIO IF THE HAWKS COULD PULL THAT OFF..NOW WHILE THAT TRADE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, ITS JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT THE TRADE WOULD PROBABLY BE ” TOO RISKY ” FOR THE “CAUTIOUS” ASG BUSINESSMEN…MOST OTHER NBA OWNERS WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT TRADE RIGHT NOW !! BUT NOT THE ASG, THEY ARE JUST TOO DAMN ” CAUTIOUS “
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
2:44 pm
@Terrell: I like the Billups trade, and perhaps, it is not too far fetched, as, if Melo leaves, Denver will be in rebuilding mode. I would be hesitant to give up Teague and Jamal. Since Jamal has to go to make the trade work, I would really like to see the Hawks hold onto Teague. Plus, if I am not mistaken, Billups has a team option for next year, making his potential financial lode non-problematic.
But that move makes it unlikely that we will be able to trade for a quality upgrade at the 5. Is the Hawks greater need a complete-package PG or an upgraded defensive-minded center?
prison mike
December 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm
We have a two month period until the deadline ends. No need to trade just to trade. Bibby, marvin, and joe are hard to trade but are tradeable.
Some gm will get an itchy trigger finger regarding crawford and that’s when sund will pounce. He has a history of fleecing teams in his past. Orlando trading a week after the 15th reeks of desperation and dwight pretty much will opt out in 2012 which is a short 1.5 years away.
Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick
December 22nd, 2010
2:50 pm
It’s all about bringing a championship to Atlanta for me. If changes/trades gonna make a championship happen for the A, do it. But as a fan I just can’t get with, making a trade just to be doing something.
prison mike
December 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm
The hawks will also have a circa 21st pick that they would combine with crawford to make it probably the most tradeable asset behind melo right now…
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm
My only concern about the Billups trade is that from Denver’s point of view it may not be worth it. Sure you get 13 mil in expirings, but you are giving up a player in Billups whose contract for next year is not guaranteed. That makes Billups an expiring or a keeper, whichever works in the team’s best interest.
Also, Denver is looking to pick up a PF or a C. After the Melo trade (assuming one happens), I am not sure Denver will have any other pressing needs … other than the want for some more young guys to build around and some picks.
All in all, if you are Denver, you have to ask yourself is trading Billups for a late 1st-round pick worth it? (Because, as noted above, the financial considerations would be a wash at best for Denver.)
Ramon
December 22nd, 2010
3:21 pm
Billups has a fractured wrist, and won’t sit down to get rest on it (4-6 weeks).
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm
HIRE LARRY BROWN
FIRE LARRY DREW
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm
JOE JOHNSON THINKS “ABOVE .500″ IS GOOD. YEAH. THAT’S WHY WE HAVENT BEEN TO THE ECF YET
LET’S JUST SHOOT FOR .500. THAT’S PRETTY MUCH RICK STUNK’S GOAL
FIRE SUND
HIRE LARRY BROWN
FIRE LARRY DREW
UGA
December 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
Dwight Howard:
So if things do not work in Orlando……………anyone think there is a chance we go into the luxury tax and sign him. His best bud is Smoove and he is from here.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
4:17 pm
I CALL ON ALL ATLANTA HAWKS FANS TO FIRE THE ASG AS WELL AND RUN THEM OUT OF TOWN….ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!
TigerWoods
December 22nd, 2010
4:19 pm
Any coach needs at least one year before passing judgement
Ramon
December 22nd, 2010
4:21 pm
Larry Brown just got fired!
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
4:25 pm
J from the A, with Denver in rebuilding mode, I could see them leeting Billups go to a contender. No need to keep him in Denver. They dont have a chance in hell out West without Melo anyway.
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm
The only teams in the West with any chance of winning the Conference are the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavericks in no particular order.
Any other team should be open to trading with us
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:30 pm
PAUL SILAS IS FAVORITE FOR CHARLOTTE JOB. PATRICK EWING AND WOODY ARE ALSO UNDER CONSIDERATION
FIRE WOODY
WE NEED EWING TO GET THE JOB SO HE CAN LEAVE ORLANDO. THAT CAN ONLY HURT DWIGHT
FIRE RICK SUND
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:31 pm
HOW WEIRD WOULD THAT BE COACHING AGAINST WOODY.
ISO-SJAX VS. ISO-JOE
FIRE WOODY
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:34 pm
Phil Jackson said he’ll be remembered as the Bulls’ coach, not the Lakers’. LOL Kobe must be pissed
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
WOW, LARRY BROWN REALLY DID JUST STEP DOWN…COME ON TO ATLANTA MR. LARRY BROWN…NO JUST KIDDING..JOSH’S WHINNING WILL PROBABLY CAUSE LB TO HAVE A HEART ATTACK OR SOMETHING DUE TO BEING IRRITATED !!
Ramon
December 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
Jeje, the Bulls were the beginning of the NBA being global as we know it. Remember Kukoc was the first international player to really be a champion like that. And MJ was…MJ.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 22nd, 2010
4:37 pm
JUST FIRE THE WHOLE FRANCHISE AND HIRE JESUS !!
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
4:42 pm
Leave it MJ to hire Woody. lol!
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
4:43 pm
Correction:
Leave it to Woody to hire MJ. lol!
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
4:44 pm
Correction #2
Leave it to MJ to hire Woody. lol!
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
4:50 pm
LEAVE IT TO WOODY TO HIRE MJ
MAKES PERFECT SENSE
FIRE DREW
HIRE WOODY
SIGN MJ
ISO-MJ
Boooo!
December 22nd, 2010
5:00 pm
I blame LD for the losses to NJ and DET. I mean if JC1 is out THEN WHY IS JC2 IN A SUIT ON THE SIDELINE?! Would it not make sense to relpace crawford with crawford? JJ needed a scoring outlet/pressure release, especially after coming off elbow surgery.
Why is LD giving Teague the short leash? I don’t understand, Bibby keeps getting embarassed by 5′10′ Jameer nelson over and over again but he gets to stay in the game? And that was before Bibby went on his little hot shooting streak.
What about pape sy? why is he in a suit still? In case LD hasn’t noticed, MO EVANS IS SUCKING BIG TIME RIGHT NOW and damien wilkins has absolutely no offensive game whatsoever. Pape is 6′7 and 225 I just dont understand.
Bibby, Mo, Jamal, Marvin, Etan, and Zaza should ALL be on the trading block right now. Sund shouldat least notify the other 29 teams that “we may deal those players if you have something we need.”
LD is acting like woody lite and Sund just Sucks right now. He needs to be on the phone with somebody.
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
5:02 pm
When was the last time the Hawks actually BLEW another team out? Unless my mind is playing tricks on me, had to be at least a couple of years ago. I’m tired of letting these sorry azz teams hang around. Tonights game SHOULD be another JoCraw, JTeague, showcase in the 4th quarter, but I can almost guarantee you, that all 5 starters will still be in the game, because we’ll only be up by like 6 or 7 in the 4th. Blow somebody out for a change.
L-QUE
December 22nd, 2010
5:06 pm
Atlanta dont need to destroy this team for the sake of trading KEEP THE CORE TOGETHER, take the time to actully watch a game with someone who know basketball, then you can clearlly see Atlanta needs ,SCORING from the back court.Keep this team young add one or two vets. that the team respect. I say that because I watch Atlanta bigs pass over Bibby’s head to get the ball to Joe,same with Teague, Atlanta needs to move JC1,Bibby or Teague for a scoring guard ,please not Hinrick, lets say M. Ellis who is on the trading block. or look at Detroit who would help there ?knowing our budget T.Mcgrady , Stucky or BYNUM this takes the scoring load off JOSH & AL then each shot they take wont be magnified ,neither are go to scorers in the clutch. I truelly believe Atlanta is a facilitating scoring pointguard,off the bench scoring 2, off the bench scoring 3,away from a top five team Boston ,Lakers Dallas San Ant. are old teams who must win now . Atlanta needs a [CLOSER] to finish games , they are a couple players away , the problem is not the core players,they need a leader by example
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
5:07 pm
UGA asks:
“UGA
Dwight Howard:
December 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm
“So if things do not work in Orlando……………anyone think there is a chance we go into the luxury tax and sign him. His best bud is Smoove and he is from here”
Great observation from UGA. The answer is absolutely that can happen.
Josh needs to start recruiting him NOW!
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
5:08 pm
I think the Bobcats are a lot like one of our 2004 or 2005 teams, in that they are not undertalented but have no real leadership, are qiuet, and just inexperienced. I mean SJax and Gerald have experience but they just don’t have enough vets
FIRE SUND
UGA
December 22nd, 2010
5:10 pm
Thanks! I really do think that could happen………Joe could stay, Al could stay and Smith at the 3. We would just have to convince ownership to go into the luxury tax.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
5:12 pm
Best Man!
UGA, don’t forget Dwight was Josh’s Best Man at his wedding this Summer as well. That is a genuine friendship. And, with LeBron setting the table for choosing a team he can win with, we see Melo and Amare doing the same.
So, yes, I think the modern day player is loading their fantasy teams like a Play Station Game.
O'Brien
December 22nd, 2010
5:12 pm
With LB out in Charlotte, maybe MJ will give Woody a call
As good as Bibby is playing, the fact is we get nothing from him on defense, and he is a major liability in the 4th when a team goes to the pick and roll.
If he was expiring, the Hawks could explore the option of trading him (whether that be for a Billups, or Devin Harris, whoever). But because Rick gave him 3 years guaranteed (instead of 2), trading him is not even an option (imo).
I think Bibby would be a very good backup PG. But I dont know how we can trade for an upgrade.
UGA
December 22nd, 2010
5:24 pm
I agree on Bibby, however, that is the best defense I have seen him play in some time versus the Magic on Monday.
J from the A
December 22nd, 2010
5:24 pm
@UGA: Re: Dwight: It’s not just a matter of the ownership being willing to go into the luxury tax, but any Dwight acquisition might be difficult due to financial rules of the NBA (the CBA).
Assuming there isn’t going to be any major changes with the upcoming CBA (which is probably an erroneous assumption), the only way the Hawks would be able to acquire Dwight would be to (a) unload a lot of salaries between now and then or (b) work out a sign and trade with Orlando. Both options (a) and (b) would probably involve at least a slight remaking of the core. IMO, to get Dwight, the Hawks will have to be willing to let go of [Josh and a little bit more*] OR [AL and a little bit more*].
*The little bit more may end up being something along the lines of Zaza or Marvin (or an extended Jamal???).
L-QUE
December 22nd, 2010
5:25 pm
Delvin Harris is available for JC1.T. Mcgrady is available for a second round pick or MO.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
5:28 pm
Get Outa’ Here!
Larry Brown has a 2 Year shelf-Life every where he goes. Great teacher of the game and he runs some really good schemes, especially on defense! A Master!
Problem is, he is surly and can not get along with Owners, GM’s nor Players.
He is a royal azz-hole, worse than that old drunk – Allen Iverson.
BTW, Kenny “The Jet” Smith and Rod Strickland were also raging alcoholics their entire playing career, so was Derrick Coleman and that other Big PF … Aaah, what was his name? He played for a lot of great teams too.
Aaah! I will have to look him up. Sorry for going off on a tangent with the alcoholics, but. Larry Brown, Doug Collins, Byron Scott and Avery Johnson are all
unbearable personalities, who are extremely intense and very controlling.
So is Stan Van Gundy, today’s players hate playing for these guys.
That’s why I believe Dwight will opt out of Orlando, because of SVG.
I hear, SVG may be the next Coach fired, if this New Look Magic does not succeed.
IMHO. Wow! Still can’t believe Larry Brown was fired though. Man, these owners ain’t playing, they want to win NOW!
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
5:40 pm
I Googled it: That Great Player was:

Vin Baker talks about his alcohol problems
Written by Mookie Schiralli
Friday, 29 October 2010 03:18
“Vin Baker was one of those guys who seemingly had it all and then let it slip away. A slippery-slide of alcohol addiction, coupled with personal problems, led to Baker’s All-Star, Olympic gold medal-winning basketball career eluding him. He squandered more than $80m earned in his playing days. Now, the former NBA star wants to help others with similar problems through the telling of his story.
The following three videos show Baker’s interview on the Stan Simpson show, to air on television this Sunday.”
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
5:41 pm
Larry Brown mutually quit.
Huge difference. He doesn’t get the loot if he quits
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
5:43 pm
BTW, David Aldridge reported today that SVG better get it done in Orlando, or he may be on his way out too. I believe that is where I heard it first.
-drmaryb Entertainment Reporter-
I love juicy gossip … LOL!
Rev in Tampa
December 22nd, 2010
5:52 pm
drmaryb (*_*) ,
One of those 1970’s players (former All-star) that let it slip away comes to my church every month or so. His church only serves communion once a year, but so he drops by to worship with us when we observe communion.
He is very content with having lost all that he had because he lost the lifestyle that came with it. Now he works with kids as a coach and unselfishly gives himself away to whoever needs a hand.
JeJe
December 22nd, 2010
5:58 pm
FIRE RICK SUND .
O'Brien
December 22nd, 2010
6:15 pm
I said it jokingly, but it might happen for real. From hoopshype.com;
Sekou Smith: Former Hawks coach Mike Woodson is in the mix in Charlotte as well. Twitter .
drmaryb (*_*)
December 22nd, 2010
6:16 pm
Rev in Tampa!
I guess I never really thought about how severe alcoholism is. It is truly a disease, I always thought it was just a weakness. It’s nice to hear that success story from your congregation.
BTW, I think Barkley has an issue with the alcohol too, but he is a functional drinker. Also, Rev, have you noticed that last year on TNT, Kenny “The Jet” Smith was drunk as hell one Thursday nighÞ. Dude was rambling and slurring.
Then he was not on the show for a while there, but as we can all see, he came back. Do you sometimes wonder if that is really water in those TNT coffee mugs?
I’m just wondering? Gee, I’m scared to drink now! LOL!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2010
6:37 pm
What would Charlotte’s offense look like with Woody? Iso-Gerald? Iso-Jack? Iso-Diaw?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 22nd, 2010
6:40 pm
“When was the last time the Hawks actually BLEW another team out? ”
Opening night vs. Memphis.
I can’t remember if there has been a more recent blowout.
BILL BIXBY THE 3RD
December 22nd, 2010
6:41 pm
ALL THIS MISSIN OUT THE HAWKS HAVE DONE AS FAR AS THESE TRADES ARE CONCERN ARE CAUSIN ME TO TURN GREEN JUST LIKE MY DADDY USE TOO..DAMN ASG…..RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR !!!!!!!!!! NOW IM THE HULK PART TRES.
It was not a bad pick
December 22nd, 2010
6:42 pm
we should package Jamal right now for a big man..once we get a big man, we will be a threat in the East…we will continue to get beat off the dribble by quick guards because Bibby is old, and Joe Max is not a true GUARD..Max is really a sf..I watched him in the Ga dome for the sec title against Ken..He was a sf..Boston gave up on him because he played the same positon as Paul P, SF..At Phx he was a SF,QRich played the Two..Joe max was supposed to play PG for the Hawks, but after 2 games Woody changed the lineup..He is too slow to stay in front of good 2 guards…A active 6ft10 or taller big man is needed to protect the rim…come on, Most quick PGs are going to get to the basket no matter what, regardless of who is guarding them.. you should have a big man to stop it..
Sautee
December 22nd, 2010
7:01 pm
not a bad pick,
LOL, he can’t stay in front of good 2 guards, yet he has routinely guarded even faster point guards. Man, your hate for JJ is beyond credibility.
Once again, if he is as bad as you say How the F did he get named 3rd team ALL-NBA?
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
7:14 pm
Marvin still startin.
cdog
December 22nd, 2010
7:24 pm
ernest, i agree with what you said but you have to go back 3 years. rick sund is the GM he has the pull to make petsonnel moves.everyone was blaming mike woodson but sund was to blame.he fail to bring in players to compete with the teams in the east.when the hawks failed, woodson, despite winning 50 plus games was made the scapegoat instead of sund who is terrible. larry drew won’t come close to winning the games that woodson did.look at the falcons and the braves.they have great GMs who will pull moves to win and not worry about money.this is what puzzle me also,despite having money sund does not do anything with money.when he has extra draft picks, he throws them away on players who will never suit up for the hawks.overall, the owners are to blame but the main problem is and has always been rick sund.when sund goes and a competent GM is hired, only then will the hawks contend for the nba championship.
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
7:32 pm
Mo Evans? Damm LD. What does a guy have to do around here to get benched?
brigadierjerry
December 22nd, 2010
7:33 pm
BTW, Kenny “The Jet” Smith and Rod Strickland were also raging alcoholics their entire playing career, so was Derrick Coleman and that other Big PF … Aaah, what was his name? He played for a lot of great teams too
dr mary b good evening yes that is true of Derrick Coleman. In the 90’s used to go to clubs in ny city and derrick coleman was drunk lots of times and getting into fights. One night all star weekend he almost got in a fight with Charles Oakley and got kicked out the club. He was always flashing money and had women around him
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
7:35 pm
Joe got lucky on that one. Still down 5 to freakin Cleveland.
terrell
December 22nd, 2010
7:55 pm
Zaza witht the airball from 4 ft. lol!
slimjr
December 23rd, 2010
12:52 am
Sund=Knight, this franchise has been lousy for a longtime.Has not been to the ECF in 23 years!! Not going to happen anytime soon with Sund in the driver seat. It looks like he thinks Billy Knight’s team hasn’t peaked yet and can advance in the playoffs but I got news for him. That train left the station last year!! Same crap different year…
jason
December 24th, 2010
8:30 pm
i bet u the atlanta hawks players hate asg. I would too. THey are toooo cheap and choose cheap over championship. Last time the hawks one a championship was in the 60’s.