Atlanta Hawks: MC speaks. You can listen.

Your boy dropped in the other day to hang out with Hawks blog legend Sekou and ATLien Lang Whitaker on the Hang Time Podcast. I suggest listening to the whole thing but if for some reason you can’t wait to hear me running off at the mouth, skip to the 17-minute mark.

Michael Cunningham

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JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
11:28 am

Ha heard this yesterday.

You need to start creating some trade rumors!

Carmelo, Andre Miller, Pryzbilla, Nash….etc

Great stuff

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
11:29 am

cdog

December 22nd, 2010
11:36 am

wishful thinking but you must face the fact that as long as rick sund is the GM for the hawks, there will be no moves to immprove and the team will be stuck in mediocrity

Ernest

December 22nd, 2010
11:47 am

cdog, it is not Rick Sund but the owners. The owners have proven they are willing to pay. The question now is are they willing to trade from their core to improve the team.

tonegully

December 22nd, 2010
12:26 pm

Im with you MC. The hawks are sitting around doing nothing. We cant even beat the Nets. Please do something. Crawford BIbby and 1st for Chris Paul. Get it done.

But i dont think the Magic improved with that trade though. we shall see down the road.

Coscro

December 22nd, 2010
12:37 pm

MC good job. I take exception to you and the others saying the Hawks have stood pat though. The Jamal move was our move. It worked wonderfully last year. JJ was also our big move. None of the other teams in the SE besides Miami had a top 3 rotation player up for renewal. I mean not to be a homer, but with all the movement being done we sit exactly in the spot we were last year, 2nd in the SE and 4th in the conference. I love to see a homerun move made, but not just a move for the sake of movement.

Michael Cunningham

December 22nd, 2010
1:01 pm

@Coscro: i see what you are saying re: Jamal and J.J. i just don’t think that’s enough to overtake the Celtics and the Heat since the former got much deeper and the latter got much better. i’m assuming the Magic also will make another deal for a backup center, in which case they also could be better. emphasis on “could” though because they did take a risk. i’m curious to see what the Hawks can do now that they are healthy.

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
1:03 pm

Can we please trade for a PG and start getting respect back from the media? I don’t think one person outside of the organization truly believes this team can compete as is.

WE NEED A POINT GUARD

JEFF TEAGUE WILL NOT START FOR THIS FRANCHISE

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
1:05 pm

MC: “i’m curious to see what the Hawks can do now that they are healthy.”

Is Jamal returning tonight?

Worldwide Clyde

December 22nd, 2010
1:06 pm

Free Jordan Crawford

ATL RAISED INDY LIVING

December 22nd, 2010
1:13 pm

EVIDENTLY ASG IS FILLED WITH BUSINESSMEN WHO ARE CAUTIOUS AT WHAT THEY DO…WHILE BEING CAUTIOUS DOESNT ALWAYS PRODUCE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE RESULTS, A LOT OF TIMES BEING CAUTIOUS AT LEAST PRODUCES A SAFE RESULT…THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS, THE ASG COULD CARE LESS ABOUT WINNING OR LOSING AS LONG AS THEY MAINTAIN PROFITABILITY AND A HEALTHY LIFESTYLE..AND IT IS FOR THIS REASON WHY THE HAWKS WILL ALWAYS BE MEDIOCRE WITH THIS OWNERSHIP GROUP..SIMPLY PUT THE VOICE OF THE ASG ( IF IT EXISTS) ,THAT IS A RISK TAKER’S VOICE,ISNT BEING HEARD AMONGST THE ASG…KEEPING THE CORE IS THE ASG’S “CAUTIOUS” BET, WHILE BUILDING A CHAMPIONSHIP WOULD INVOLVE TAKING A ” RISK”..THE ASG IS FILLED WITH GUYS WHO DON’T TAKE “RISKS” AND THAT IS WHY THE HAWKS WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH THE ASG…THE ASG DOESNT TAKE “RISKS”

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
1:13 pm

What is taking so damn long to send guys to the NBDL?

Why did we pay extra to buy out Pape Sy if he isn’t even going to play in the NBA or NBDL? Great team management, Rick Stunk!

oldtimer

December 22nd, 2010
1:27 pm

ATL raised Indy living “WHILE BEING CAUTIOUS DOESNT ALWAYS PRODUCE THE MOST ATTRACTIVE RESULTS, A LOT OF TIMES BEING CAUTIOUS AT LEAST PRODUCES A SAFE RESULT”.

This has been ASG mode of operation. That has gotten Hawks to second round twice. But now, we know we have peaked. The fans know. The crowds are getting smaller. If I am a good businessman, I have to inject excitement into the fan base, or the safe profit margin built on top of year to year improvements, will surely go down, as it already has started.

O'Brien

December 22nd, 2010
1:29 pm

From the previous blog;

JeJe,

I think Camby has one year left after this one, at $9 mil. That eliminates him from the Hawks (imo). With Al’s extension kicking in next year, and a new CBA, I dont see the Hawks picking up much salary, so if they trade Jamal, they would want another expiring in return (like Pryzbilla).

And I’m not sure Andre Miller would be a good fit.

And as for Josh being a sixth man, I think he would have a big problem with it, and would do what he does…Pout.

MsDee

December 22nd, 2010
1:36 pm

Its sad to say but the ONLY way the Hawks make a move is if they stink it up like Orlando has been doing the last 8-9 games. We would HAVE to go on a huge losing streak WITH EVERYONE HEALTHY! If top players are hurt like JJ, Marvin, and Mo out, Sund feels a losing streak is b/c of hurt players, BUT IF ALL ARE HEALTHY and STILL LOSING, then and only then u will see a change in the roster..TRUTH ME!! In the eyes of Sund & ASG, we are 4th in the east with a great chance of topping Miami in the division if they go on a losing streak being that they have YET to play the Lakers, Chicago, and the Spurs..with 2 more games to play against Boston and the new look Orlando!

ignition

December 22nd, 2010
1:36 pm

Basically Jeff Teague needs to show up….

drmaryb (*_*)

December 22nd, 2010
1:38 pm

What is in a Coach?

Coaching is what you do, when, you don’t have as much talent than the other team.

See The Bucks and Scott Skiles defeat The Lakers and Phil Jackson last night without Brandon Jennings. That my friends was Coaching.

Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick

December 22nd, 2010
1:38 pm

Interesting. …………………

Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick

December 22nd, 2010
1:39 pm

Interesting podcast I mean…………….

drmaryb (*_*)

December 22nd, 2010
1:41 pm

Woman on Fire!

Ms.Dee said: TRUTH ME!
Damn Ms. Dee that’s fresh!

Tdub

December 22nd, 2010
1:42 pm

Lets rent Melo for the remainder of this season. Josh Smith, Marvin Williams, and a 1st round pick. If we go deep in the playoffs, Melo might want to stay.If he decides 2 leave it is still worth it because 18 mill will be off the books and thats not counting Crawford and Mo expiring contracts. Plus JJ, Melo, and Al is better than Melo and Stoudemire any day. We offer him the best chance 2 win now.

J from the A

December 22nd, 2010
1:43 pm

Who would be an ideal PG for the Hawks to pick up (no fantasy BS)?

I, along with a couple fellow bloggers, really like Hinrich; however, given that the Wiz was able to move Arenas, I doubt they would be looking to move another PG. Andre Miller may very well be available and is a solid PG, but I, too, worry about fit. I doubt the Magic would be willing to trade one of their PGs to us. Any other suggestions?

Who would be an ideal C for the Hawks to pick up (no fantasy BS)?

I’ve beaten this horse to death, but I would love to see the Hawks make a move for Camby. Pryzbilla would not be bad either. Wonder if the Suns would think about moving Lopez or Gortat … I would love to see the Hawks pick up either. Who else might be available, attainable, and a possible good acquisition?

MsDee

December 22nd, 2010
1:45 pm

lol…wow, I totally mis-spelled that. I meant Trust Me!! LOL

MsDee

December 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm

Why dont I like the idea of Andre Miller being an idea to come here? For some strange reason, he reminds me of another Bibby!

drmaryb (*_*)

December 22nd, 2010
1:48 pm

Bait Car!

tubd: fellas don’t take that bait, it’s a dead end street, a trick a hoax!
Scroll past the asinine commenters, please don’t let that foolishness stop the blog traffic from free flowing! It’s a bottle-neck!

SMH!

J from the A

December 22nd, 2010
1:50 pm

@MsDee: Miller is not Bibby. Bibby can shoot the 3!

Coscro

December 22nd, 2010
1:51 pm

MC I completely understand your points. It will be interesting to see what we have in the next 3 weeks. I honestly think our best bet is to wait until the Melo issue is close to being resolved before we put our best foot forward.

J from the A

December 22nd, 2010
1:53 pm

My worry about Miller is similar to Roy’s concerns about Miller: (1) Because Miller has no outside shot, he cannot really spread the defense. (2) Roy claims that Miller’s style of play meshed with Roy’s style of play. If there is really something to this complaint, then Miller and JJ might not mesh well together.

However, Miller is a solid PG (floor general, facilitator) and he plays defense a bit better than Bibby.

ATL RAISED INDY LIVING

December 22nd, 2010
2:03 pm

I BELIEVE THAT THE ASG WILL DO A SCENARIO SIMILAR TO THIS…THEY WILL DUMP AS MANY BIG SALARIES AS THEY CAN AND DECIDE TO BREAK UP THE CORE AND REBUILD TO CREATE A RECESSIONALIZED( I KNOW ITS NOT A WORD) FRANCHISE….

AGAIN THIS IS NOT A PREDICTION, BUT ITS JUST WHAT I THINK WILL BE A SIMILARITY, HERE GOES…

RECESSIONALIZED TEAM – SALARY DUMP TEAM OF CENTURY

TRADE #1: MARVIN WILLIAMS AND ZAZA PACHULIA TO LA FOR JEROME JORDAN AND AL-FARROQ AMINU

TRADE #2 : TWIN TO ORLANDO FOR EARL CLARK

TRADE #3: JEFF TEAGUE AND MO EVANS TO INDIANA FOR A.J.PRICE, LANCE STEPHENSON, AND A 2ND ROUND DRAFT PICK

TRADE #4: JOSH SMITH TO HOUSTON FOR JORDAN HILL AND 1ST ROUND PICK

TRADE #5: MIKE BIBBY AND JAMAL CRAWFORD TO L.A.CLIPPERS FOR ERIC GORDAN

TRADE #6 : JOE JOHNSON TO PHILADELPHIA FOR MATEESE SPEIGHTS AND SPENCER HAWES

POTENTIAL ” SALARY DUMP ” LINE UP
C – SPENCER HAWES
PF – AL HORFORD
SF – DAMIEN WILKINS
SG – JORDAN CRAWFORD
PG – ERIC GORDAN

BENCH
PF/SF- JOSH POWELL
SF/PF- EARL CLARK
PG- A.J. PRICE
C- JEROME JORDAN
PF- JORDAN HILL
SF/SG – AL-FAROOQ AMINU
PF/C – MATEESE SPEIGHTS

INJURED RESERVES
C – ETAN THOMAS
SG/PG – PAPE SY
SG- LANCE STEPHENSON

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
2:12 pm

SO WHERE IS BOOBOO?

WHERE’S THIS NASH TRADE?

LMAO

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
2:14 pm

SO WHERE IS BOOBOO?

WHERE’S THIS NASH TRADE?

LMAO.

terrell

December 22nd, 2010
2:20 pm

Being that Ty Lawson is the pg of the future in Denver, we should just wait on Melo to go to NY, and then go after Billups. Nuggets get Mo and Jamal’s expirings and a 1st. We get the PG and the LEADER this team needs all at once.

terrell

December 22nd, 2010
2:22 pm

They can have Teague too if they want him. Bibby can backup Billups.

Ramon

December 22nd, 2010
2:39 pm

Melo’s going to Dallas.

ATL RAISED INDY LIVING

December 22nd, 2010
2:39 pm

TERRELL, THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SCENARIO IF THE HAWKS COULD PULL THAT OFF..NOW WHILE THAT TRADE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY, ITS JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT THE TRADE WOULD PROBABLY BE ” TOO RISKY ” FOR THE “CAUTIOUS” ASG BUSINESSMEN…MOST OTHER NBA OWNERS WOULD PROBABLY DO THAT TRADE RIGHT NOW !! BUT NOT THE ASG, THEY ARE JUST TOO DAMN ” CAUTIOUS “

J from the A

December 22nd, 2010
2:44 pm

@Terrell: I like the Billups trade, and perhaps, it is not too far fetched, as, if Melo leaves, Denver will be in rebuilding mode. I would be hesitant to give up Teague and Jamal. Since Jamal has to go to make the trade work, I would really like to see the Hawks hold onto Teague. Plus, if I am not mistaken, Billups has a team option for next year, making his potential financial lode non-problematic.

But that move makes it unlikely that we will be able to trade for a quality upgrade at the 5. Is the Hawks greater need a complete-package PG or an upgraded defensive-minded center?

prison mike

December 22nd, 2010
2:48 pm

We have a two month period until the deadline ends. No need to trade just to trade. Bibby, marvin, and joe are hard to trade but are tradeable.

Some gm will get an itchy trigger finger regarding crawford and that’s when sund will pounce. He has a history of fleecing teams in his past. Orlando trading a week after the 15th reeks of desperation and dwight pretty much will opt out in 2012 which is a short 1.5 years away.

Mz. Hawkdafied/Hood Chick

December 22nd, 2010
2:50 pm

It’s all about bringing a championship to Atlanta for me. If changes/trades gonna make a championship happen for the A, do it. But as a fan I just can’t get with, making a trade just to be doing something.

prison mike

December 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm

The hawks will also have a circa 21st pick that they would combine with crawford to make it probably the most tradeable asset behind melo right now…

J from the A

December 22nd, 2010
2:53 pm

My only concern about the Billups trade is that from Denver’s point of view it may not be worth it. Sure you get 13 mil in expirings, but you are giving up a player in Billups whose contract for next year is not guaranteed. That makes Billups an expiring or a keeper, whichever works in the team’s best interest.

Also, Denver is looking to pick up a PF or a C. After the Melo trade (assuming one happens), I am not sure Denver will have any other pressing needs … other than the want for some more young guys to build around and some picks.

All in all, if you are Denver, you have to ask yourself is trading Billups for a late 1st-round pick worth it? (Because, as noted above, the financial considerations would be a wash at best for Denver.)

Ramon

December 22nd, 2010
3:21 pm

Billups has a fractured wrist, and won’t sit down to get rest on it (4-6 weeks).

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
4:00 pm

HIRE LARRY BROWN

FIRE LARRY DREW

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
4:02 pm

JOE JOHNSON THINKS “ABOVE .500″ IS GOOD. YEAH. THAT’S WHY WE HAVENT BEEN TO THE ECF YET

LET’S JUST SHOOT FOR .500. THAT’S PRETTY MUCH RICK STUNK’S GOAL

FIRE SUND
HIRE LARRY BROWN
FIRE LARRY DREW

UGA

December 22nd, 2010
4:05 pm

Dwight Howard:

So if things do not work in Orlando……………anyone think there is a chance we go into the luxury tax and sign him. His best bud is Smoove and he is from here.

ATL RAISED INDY LIVING

December 22nd, 2010
4:17 pm

I CALL ON ALL ATLANTA HAWKS FANS TO FIRE THE ASG AS WELL AND RUN THEM OUT OF TOWN….ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!

TigerWoods

December 22nd, 2010
4:19 pm

Any coach needs at least one year before passing judgement

Ramon

December 22nd, 2010
4:21 pm

Larry Brown just got fired!

terrell

December 22nd, 2010
4:25 pm

J from the A, with Denver in rebuilding mode, I could see them leeting Billups go to a contender. No need to keep him in Denver. They dont have a chance in hell out West without Melo anyway.

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
4:29 pm

The only teams in the West with any chance of winning the Conference are the Lakers, Spurs, and Mavericks in no particular order.

Any other team should be open to trading with us

JeJe

December 22nd, 2010
4:30 pm

PAUL SILAS IS FAVORITE FOR CHARLOTTE JOB. PATRICK EWING AND WOODY ARE ALSO UNDER CONSIDERATION

FIRE WOODY

WE NEED EWING TO GET THE JOB SO HE CAN LEAVE ORLANDO. THAT CAN ONLY HURT DWIGHT

FIRE RICK SUND