Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.
I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.
All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.
“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”
Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.
“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”
At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.
The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.
“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”
Jamal out, Hawks big
Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.
L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.
L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.
“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”
MC
422 comments Add your comment
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:58 pm
*”it can be….”
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
10:05 pm
LeFraud goes down!!
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 20th, 2010
10:08 pm
I wonder what funny comments JAX (Dwight Howard) its gonna say about this lost
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 20th, 2010
10:09 pm
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_fmQuAW1gKXM/RzyhWCcQaMI/AAAAAAAAAaI/-hz-sPvtn7s/s320/jax.png
D12
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
10:11 pm
Bring Marvin off the bench. He was a bench player in college. He can come off the bench in the NBA. He does very well in the 4th quarter.
Wonder what this team would look like at 100% health and a consistent offensive scheme
Rufus1
December 20th, 2010
10:11 pm
The “Boogie Man” is DEAD!
northcyde
December 20th, 2010
10:18 pm
Marvin = Mr. 4th quarter
Good win by the squad tonight. Once again, they lose a game they should’ve won, but turned around and beat the Magic.
I can already see the highlight package on Sportscenter. They’ll show the new guys in the Magic uniforms, and show highlights of them making, but mostly missing shots. Dwight will get a few highlights.
We might get 2 or 3 highlights toward the end to let people know that the Hawks won.
hawkfan
December 20th, 2010
10:20 pm
what? what? marvin not starting, jeje finally getting the wish, and we should keep it like this
hawkfan
December 20th, 2010
10:21 pm
i would take a loss over the nets and a win over the magic rather than a win over the nets and a loss to the magic just because nets are not in our way right now
hawkfan
December 20th, 2010
10:22 pm
i would take a loss over the nets and a win over the magic rather than a win over the nets and a loss to the magic just because the nets are not in our way right now
drmaryb (*_*)
December 20th, 2010
10:28 pm
SVG said:
“[The Hawks] have been together six years,” Magic coach Stan Van Gundy said before the game. “We’ve been together six hours.”
Wah … Wah! Chirp …. Chirp!
That’s a cricket playing the smallest violin.
I don’t give a damn about the Magic’s problems … When the Hawks were being buried alive, no one made any excuses for them. So, bump Orlando!
I hope they go an a 13 game losing streak. Chicago too, and I hope Boston die from old age. I don’t care about nobody but these Hawks!
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
10:33 pm
I agree with hawkfan, but we gotta start winning road games again
No more losing to scrub teams like Detroit or NJN
drmaryb (*_*)
December 20th, 2010
10:38 pm
Back to Earth!
Hornets lost 6 straight on the road and are 8 of 9.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 20th, 2010
10:44 pm
*Hornets lost 8 of 9
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
11:00 pm
FIRE SUND
Section 303
December 20th, 2010
11:12 pm
Good win. And, much needed win. The Hawks needed to redeem themselves a bit after yesterday’s debacle.
To me..the key was Bibby. He got smacked by Turk while he was running the baseline. Bibby went down, was no call, and he said something to Turk as the two left the floor at the end of the third. Then, the fourth quarter started and Bibby took over.
Good games by Al and Collins (I’ve said all along I like this guy!). And, the poster ‘it was not a bad pick’ may be on to something. Marvin was good tonight. He’s been good, for the most part, these past couple weeks.
Not sure we should stroke ourselves too much over this win. It was, essentially, the Magic’s first game together. But, win is a win. And, the Hawks needed a win.
Section 303
December 20th, 2010
11:12 pm
Oh, yeah…decent crowd tonight, too. Almost a sell out.
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
11:25 pm
KEEP THE STARTING LINEUP AS IS
If we are going against a C not so big, I’d even start ZaZa over Collins.
Horford has done very well at the 4.
Encouraging game tonight
WE GOTTA START BEATING ALL THE SCRUB TEAMS THOUGH. WE’RE ONLY 1 GAME OVER .500 ON THE ROAD
kwooden1
December 20th, 2010
11:38 pm
Good to get the win, but I wasn’t impressed at all by the offensive execution. Joe is taking to long to rotate the ball and he’s not consistently working hard enough to come off screens. The guys take too many outside shots with no one driving to the basket. This game came down to how poorly Orlando was playing, more than the HAWKS defensive in my opinion. I do like the big lineup against Orlando, especially with them not having Lewis any more. Smoove can stay close to the basket. The HAWKS were making jump shots this game which made their offensive look better than it did against NJ, but I still see a lot of problems with it. Hopefully Joe is finding his rhythm, he started hitting some shots in the 2nd.
Overall I would like to see a lot more pick-and-roll with Horford or just starting the offensive with Horford in the high post. Horford is really shooting the ball well and we need to take advantage of it on every possession.
GO HAWKS!!
Ken Strickland
December 21st, 2010
2:12 am
Whether he’s playing C or PF, AHorford has become a very effective and consistent scorer, and his DEF and rebounding haven’t suffered as a result of playing both positions.
I looked at the best available FA centers and JPryzbilla was at the top of the list. The article said although he’s limited offensively, he’d be an excellent addition to any team looking for a good rebounder and DEF presence in the middle either as a starter or coming off the bench. It also said he’s been considered the NBA’s best backup center, and could likely be had for the MLE.
Signing him as a FA might be difficult for the Hawks since he’s made it known he has issues with the Hawks after BKnight traded him against his will.
slimjr
December 21st, 2010
9:50 am
“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”
Read between the “lines” people! Al is saying that even he believes the Hawks are pretenders!!!! And Rick Sund needs to step up and make the Hawks contenders…
RICK SUND=BILLY KNIGHT JR
slimjr
December 21st, 2010
9:59 am
Lets be real here. The past six years the Hawks have had a losing road record and that’s why they suck come playoff time.. One game above .500 on the road is a huge stepping stone for them. I give Larry credit for benching Duck!! That’s a positive move.Marvin came off the bench at Carolina. It took six years but better late than never..They still need a a real scorer at the 3. Get the PG situation resolved. Shop Josh and ZAZA asap..
RICK SUND= BILLY KNIGHT JR