Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.
I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.
All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.
“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”
Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.
“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”
At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.
The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.
“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”
Jamal out, Hawks big
Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.
L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.
L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.
“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”
MC
422 comments Add your comment
Van
December 20th, 2010
9:28 pm
Magic shooting 31%. Probably 10% outside of 10 ft.
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:28 pm
JJ got some nice kicks on
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2010
9:28 pm
THe Magic shooting has been awful. Never have seen them shoot this badly.
Watch out Al. Don’t get your second foul or you’ll be pulled from the game
YoDaddy
December 20th, 2010
9:29 pm
refs really are whistle happy today even if it is in our favor
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:29 pm
comes back to the left shoulder Nique.. Al doesnt go over the right ..
Blast
December 20th, 2010
9:29 pm
Finally Hawks getting some justice. And 1, Al!
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:30 pm
I really think this lineup with Marvin off bench is that much better. When Jamal returns you got Damien and Mo not even getting minutes.
Didn’t really use bench in 2nd half though
4:15 til we get to listen to SVG whiny post-game interview!
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:30 pm
yea he did.. look like he has them 2’s on..
J.J.M
December 20th, 2010
9:30 pm
the 13s joe had on earlier was much better
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
yea Marvin..
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
MAN JUST BENCH MARVIN TIL THE 4TH QTR.
HE’S BEEN HUGE LATELY
YoDaddy
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
Marvin THRIVING off the bench!
Blast
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
Clear path foul!
pinoy hawk
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
you drivin me crazy marvin.. lol
Melvin
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
Maybe coming off the bench is the best role for Marvin….
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:31 pm
might not always go to the motion offense.. but you have to admit, these Hawks are more willing passers, and less predictable.. we always have iso’s to fall back on.. should help come spring..
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2010
9:32 pm
Marvin!
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:32 pm
Excellent second half for Marvin
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:33 pm
LD said he was going to extend starter mins tonight.. and he definitely did..
i wonder why?
J.J.M
December 20th, 2010
9:33 pm
“you drivin me crazy marvin.. lol”
pauseee
YoDaddy
December 20th, 2010
9:33 pm
Joe Johnson WTF was that??
Blast
December 20th, 2010
9:34 pm
Where has this Hawks team been? Less turnovers and they would have really blown out Orlando. Less turnovers and they would have beaten NJ yesterday despite all the turnovers! What is wrong with this team?
Split personality?
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:34 pm
Joe trying to get to that rim lately..
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:34 pm
Just take Joe out now. We’re going to win this game.
Don’t want anything awful to happen
Najeh Davenpoop
December 20th, 2010
9:34 pm
Marvin has played with a lot more confidence in this bench role.
He did thrive as a bench guy at UNC. Who is to say the same role may not work for him here?
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:35 pm
Marvin’s had that wide open corner shot on numerous occasions.
Joe drives, dish to Smoove who dishes to Marvin
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2010
9:36 pm
Marvin is the Scrub-Captain!
Ramon
December 20th, 2010
9:36 pm
Najeh, that means you HAVE to trade Crawford to do that.
Ramon
December 20th, 2010
9:36 pm
Jamal for Kaman?
Van
December 20th, 2010
9:36 pm
Orlando would have lost to UConn women tonight.
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:36 pm
lol @ Ryan Joooooooooooooooooooooe Johnson..
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:37 pm
With Joe back, Damien’s minutes are already down a bit. When Jamal returns, LD really needs to figure out this rotation.
We need Damien getting more minutes. Mo Evans, not so much
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:37 pm
damn.. that shiiiii pure tho
J.J.M
December 20th, 2010
9:37 pm
lmao fans trippin
Blast
December 20th, 2010
9:39 pm
Great win!!!!!!!!!!
J.J.M
December 20th, 2010
9:40 pm
im out…yall have a bless day
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:40 pm
Joe will get it together..
Ramon
December 20th, 2010
9:40 pm
D12 going to go Sprewell on Van Gundy.
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:41 pm
aight.. good job..
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:42 pm
get them folks up outta here man…
JeJe
December 20th, 2010
9:42 pm
This might be our best win of the year.
Just need Jamal back now.
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2010
9:42 pm
I was hoping that the Hawks could hold Magic under 80. Oh well
Bailey
December 20th, 2010
9:45 pm
Great win. Al was superb tonight, Bibby did a good job to hide his weaknesses and hurt the magic with his shooting, and Marvin even impressed me in this one with his effort plays. Another tough shooting night for Joe (7-18), but he did a good job of passing the ball to the open man and really refraining from going old-school Iso-Joe down the stretch. The offense never really picked up until late in the game, but the defense looked pretty effective throughout. Dwight scored 19 points, but he had to take tons of free throws to get those, and the perimeter shooters weren’t a huge factor.
Now, obviously, the Magic haven’t had a chance to really incorporate their new players yet and looked out of sync tonight, but at any rate, you’ve got to give the Hawks credit for their defense. This was a quality win.
Rev in Tampa
December 20th, 2010
9:49 pm
I’m a little too frustrated by this Hawks team to believe this game is a turning-point. Hope springs eternal but this team is too schizophrenic. Who will show up next game – the team that lost to the Nets or the team we watched tonight?
I enjoyed the win, but waiting to see what’s ahead.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 20th, 2010
9:52 pm
Great Defense. Great Rotations. Coach shortened that rotation, good call to get things back under patrol. Magic just ruined their team, they are as small as we are now. I saw Za stand next to Howard, Za is taller, Dwight is bigger though.
Magic got smaller, I can’t believe that trade, they gutted their team for no apparent reason. Jason Richardson has never been guarded before, welcome to the East Coast, we defend ’round here boy!
Gilbert looked lost! Sometimes the best trade is no trade. Miami will prolly make some more moves though. Hawks? Nothing!
YoDaddy
December 20th, 2010
9:52 pm
like I said earlier
Jason Collins should start the rest of the season…bring Jamal Crawford and Marvin Williams off the bench along with Teague and Zaza and Powell. (Powell DNP-CD)
Etan & Damien Wilkins in spot minutes and Mo Evans to the D-League or contract buyout
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:56 pm
monster game from Al
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:56 pm
17.. 5.. 6 from Joe on off night..
and credits home crowd..
get of him..
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:57 pm
“equal opportunity offensively.. thats how i can be on any given night”
Joe
bigdave
December 20th, 2010
9:57 pm
and of late.. defense looking strong..