Atlanta Hawks vs. Magic: Standing pat?

Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.

I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.

All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.

“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”

Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.

“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”

At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.

The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.

“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”

Jamal out, Hawks big

Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.

L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.

L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.

“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”

MC

422 comments Add your comment

Blast

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

Now Magic unravelling just like Hawks used to do in the past.

Two fouls on Quentin and Howard right there. No call!

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

It’s been a lot of whistles this game

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

Three fouls on howard. But it is late in the game. Oh well.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:04 pm

LOL Marvin won’t even be able to take advantage of Arenas

Must be the only 6″9 player in NBA History who can’t take advantage of a notoriously bad 6″3 defensive player

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:04 pm

thats good d.. c’mon ref..

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:04 pm

its the leggins..

northcyde

December 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

Like I said . . JJ shoud even start setting up 1 step inside the 3 point line. Just abandon the shot altogether.

If Drew comes with the rest of the bench, we need at least 6 pts out of Marvin in these next 4 or 5 minutes.

Magic shooting 35%.

Drew taking no chances though. He still has Horford, Smith, and Bibby out there. They can’t play the entire half though.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

After the game, watch out for Dwight and Smoove hugging and try read their lips, seeing whether Dwight mentions wanting to bring his game to the A

Van

December 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

The rout is on!

Free MARTA cards if the Hawks get to 100.

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

Who leaves Al Horford to go double on Marvin? Stupid!!!

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
9:05 pm

Horford get back in there!

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:06 pm

I’m glad we’re playing the Magic now, they’ve got a lot of talent. They may win it all if they find a groove.

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
9:06 pm

1st to 80pts wins the game!

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
9:06 pm

lmao@big dave…leggins

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:07 pm

JJ is not all the way back, hope he gets some rest.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
9:07 pm

lmao marta cards

Van

December 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

JeJe I believe Dwight’s babymama and his kid are in Orlando, so he’s probably gonna want to stay there.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

Wow @ Washington dominating by 30 without Rashard, Wall, and Josh Howard doing little. Solid starters

Bailey

December 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

Good job so far by the Hawks on the defensive end. The offense hasn’t really been flowing that well so far in this game, but Bibby had some hot shooting in the third to help the Hawks maintain the lead. I’d like to see the Hawks go inside more to Al down the stretch. The Hawks haven’t really exploited that mismatch enough and I don’t feel like Bass has the length to handle Al in the post. At any rate, the Hawks are doing a good job of scrapping for buckets on a night where Joe Johnson is, again, struggling with his shot.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

Loaded for Bear!

Marvin walks off the court like he has a load in his draws.
Too Funny!

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
9:08 pm

im telling yall joe is playing 70 percent in shape

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:09 pm

Not sure Brandon Bass is used to playing this much. Allen is an old vet of 32, doesn’t have much. And Okay, I was wrong about signing Collins, he’s decent, glad we got him. And Chris Duhon is available by the way if the Hawks need him.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:09 pm

real talk..

i can see the half leg sleeve like ya boy Bibby spote.. but the leggins..

C’mon Son!

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:09 pm

JJ Reddick playing 6 minutes and making 7+m per – now thats a bad contract!

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

“Yeah I like that!” Al Horford

good job Collins

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

good d..

but JJ game has improved..

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

nice d mike..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

HEY JOE NOW WOULD BE THE TIME TO HELP US STRETCH THE LEAD

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
9:10 pm

man he needed that

Jae Evolution

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!

O'Brien

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

Finally JJ makes a 3.

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

Bibby has exceeded my expectations this year; another confession I needed to make.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

jigga finally hits..

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

Van, D12 don’t like his baby mother so that doesn’t matter.

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

Way to go JJ!!

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
9:11 pm

bs call on collins..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

If Bibby could knock down shots regularly and play any semblance of defense, and Collins starts, is this team that far off?

1) don’t have to see Marvin play big minutes
2) We can guard the other team’s big

GO HAWKS

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

lmao a fan yelled someone needs to go back to the d-league…and howard always make free throws against us

Melvin

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Howard commits a flying clothes line on Josh and no call then Collins breathe on Howard, foul on Collins… SMH at these Refs…

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Dwight Howard = JAX from Mortal Kombat

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

joe hit the long three but he should have given it up to the wide-open Bibby.

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Howard and Josh have made a pact to play together in the NBA. Another reason not to trade Smoove for Kevin Love!

Blast

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Bull sh!t calls, man! Josh gets mugged and does not get a call. You sniff on Howard and you get a call.

Rub it in refs faces when Hawks win this game.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Need to keep executing. Cannot just try run clock down

WTF was that Joe

WTF was that Marvin? You’re not allowed to do that

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
9:12 pm

Josh just KILLED D12’s shot. Josh isn’t shooting well, but he’s having a good overall game.

Van

December 20th, 2010
9:13 pm

Magic gonna need Michael Vick to pull this one out

SteveW

December 20th, 2010
9:13 pm

TV wants Dwight, so no calls on the superstars. Collins is another matter.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:13 pm

ZaZa more concerned about being fly and swagged up than playing basketball..

what would Orl give us for him?

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:13 pm

That Marvin Shot looked a bit LBJ’esque. he didn’t even know where basket was when he realeased it

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
9:14 pm