Atlanta Hawks vs. Magic: Standing pat?

Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.

I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.

All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.

“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”

Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.

“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”

At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.

The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.

“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”

Jamal out, Hawks big

Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.

L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.

L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.

“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”

MC

422 comments Add your comment

lukas

December 20th, 2010
8:48 pm

ISO ISO ISO ISO. Where is the motion offense?

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
8:48 pm

loudest the arena has been after dwight’s dunk

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:48 pm

Our defense isn’t bad now

We need some damn baskets

terrell

December 20th, 2010
8:49 pm

I like Joe and all, but he doesnt look anything like a MAX player.

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
8:49 pm

Hawks 4th quarter meltdown has started a quarter early

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:50 pm

I think we match up well with this new Orlando lineup.

Jameer isn’t horrendously fast, so bibby can semi-keep-up

JJ vs. J.Rich
Josh on Hedo
Horf on Bass
Collins on Dwight

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:50 pm

Marvin over there lacing up his Kobe’s

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:50 pm

Let’s get this lead up to 6 or 7 going into the 4th

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:51 pm

Here comes Marvin.

Might as well forfeit the game

Blast

December 20th, 2010
8:51 pm

Marvin with his old man waddle.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:51 pm

GOD DAMNIT JOE

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

jigga man stinking it up..

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

How can we be an elite team…when our team is full of players who TRY SO Hard to be like real elite players, yet just cant be?

When Powell is on the court, you can tell he has a Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon poster on his wall and he mimics his offensive mechanics with a balled up piece of paper and a trash can.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

That is more open a max player will be on a 3pter than ever in the NBA

Thank God for Bibby

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

Bibby been solid..

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

Joe Johnson ….stop shooting

Bibby….shoot more

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

Bibby’s shot has been on all season…have to give him that.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:52 pm

what kind of call? wow..

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:53 pm

boy the refs dont like the hawks

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
8:53 pm

I think Joe has missed more wide open 3s this season than Marvin. lol

Jae Evolution

December 20th, 2010
8:53 pm

WOOOOOW how can they call that BS!

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:53 pm

This summer, can Marvin please get some back treatment, gain like 30 pounds of muscle in his arms/shoulders, and get butt tissue removal surgery? Only then would he look like a normal human being – no homo

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:54 pm

Joe is good for defense though lol

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:54 pm

Joe and Jamal have missed wide open shots..

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:54 pm

He should have mimicked Olajuwon’s diet during Ramadan to have had a chance at playing like him.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:55 pm

marvin needs to be jumped by nexus

Blast

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

Told y’all the damm refs have been screwing us all season. How can you win when you get hacked and don’t get a call? While on the other end they call every tick-tack foul on us?

Refs been doing this for years on Hawks, getting magnified this year!

steven

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

why is this trash on instead of the thrashers game

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

sac town miggy..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

Bibby’s shooting is good. Just needs to lose weight and get quicker

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:56 pm

Next Bibby miss expect a “heat check” comment from Nique

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:57 pm

keep working Joe..

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:57 pm

@ his age losing weight and getting quicker isnt an option..

Blast

December 20th, 2010
8:58 pm

Joe stinking it up, but Mike keeping us in it.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:58 pm

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:58 pm

Joe JOhnson can’t even make free throws

Ramon

December 20th, 2010
8:58 pm

I don’t know where Malik Allen came from. But I’m sure he’s going back after tonight, lol.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:59 pm

There’s that 7 point lead at the end of the 3rd I was talking about

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:00 pm

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:50 pm

Let’s get this lead up to 6 or 7 going into the 4th

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
9:00 pm

Joe has to be 70 percent his shots are off bad

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

LOL @ Malik Allen. Shoots more than ZaZa does when he’s in there. How old is this guy?

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

Bobcats getting plastered… they will be clearing house in a minute..

drmaryb (*_*)

December 20th, 2010
9:01 pm

Tom Collins on Ice!

Twin is really finding his groove. He should start every game, bench Marvin and tell Josh to play the SF Inside-Outside. For three made baskets inside he gets one jumper. 3:1 ratio, he needs to put his jumper on a diet.
Don’t feast on them jumpers.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
9:02 pm

..cant wait til Joe Johnson blames all his problems this year on the fans.

Najeh Davenpoop

December 20th, 2010
9:02 pm

“Hey Najeh, I can’t hear you on TV, it should be pretty easy to get picked up on Nique or Rathbun’s mic no matter where you are sitting in the morgue.”

LMAO. Yeah, the crowd is quieter than usual, although size wise it’s actually decent. A lot of sections that are usually mostly empty are mostly full.

We got loud for the Horford dunk in the first half, and for Chris Tucker and Chipper Jones. That’s about it.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:02 pm

cant say enough about Collins..

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

jordan would take mo for gerald wallace…bobcats are rebuilding

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

WTH I thought SVG was required to wear “real” shirts this year? Still those same long-sleeve polos and ugly jackets or whatever you classify that as

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
9:03 pm

Marvin got his leggins on .. smh