Atlanta Hawks vs. Magic: Standing pat?

Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.

I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.

All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.

“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”

Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.

“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”

At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.

The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.

“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”

Jamal out, Hawks big

Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.

L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.

L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.

“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”

MC

422 comments Add your comment

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:32 pm

lol poor J-Rich

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:32 pm

“I’m glad you put that “honestly” in there JJM, usually people are just joking when they say a stud like Marvin shouldn’t be starting.”

LOL!

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:32 pm

Rich dont have the shoulders to deal w/ Joe on the block..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:33 pm

WTF Joe

We don’t pay u the max to shoot horrendously and score 15 ppg

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:34 pm

wet from 3.. damn

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:34 pm

3s saving the magic

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:34 pm

Let’s just hope this lineup stays hot as hell so LD can’t sub in Marvin for anyone. I HOPE Damien comes in before Marvin

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:35 pm

Collins needs to start.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 20th, 2010
8:35 pm

Dirty Dirk?

JeJe, we shall see? But, I don’t see Dallas beating Lakers nor San Antone…maybe not Utah either. I just don’t know.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:35 pm

Win this game and there’s no way Sund picks up the phone.

“WE HAVE BEATEN ORLANDO TWICE THIS SEASON. WE LOST TO THEM 8 TIMES LAST YEAR. WE ARE AN ELITE TEAM. LOOK AT OUR RECORD AGAINST ORLANDO”

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:36 pm

As many flaws as I can think of with this team, what I can say is atleast ORL hasnt DRILLED us by 30+ in the last few games, and we’ve shown we can compete w/ and beat them.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:36 pm

LD always has this look on his face like it’s 3AM and he hasn’t slept in 3 days

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
8:36 pm

smoove and his awful passes..

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:36 pm

Jason Collins should start from here on out

The lineup that went today is the lineup for the rest of the season. Teague, Marvin, Jamal, Zaza & Powell off the bench…Damien and Etan in spot moments…Mo Evans on the bench forever

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:36 pm

lol .. vince actually could defend decently..

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:37 pm

lmaoooo@jeje I bet thats how he thinks

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:37 pm

drmaryb,

I always have Dallas as my sleeper, just like I usually think ORL will go to the Finals.

They finally are playing D this year, and their bench is so deep. They even had Ajinca have a huge game with some other unknown bench player. Ajinca hasn’t even played tonight.

I will be thrilled if Dallas OR SAS make the Finals. I love both those teams. Any team in the West, really. They don’t have many D-Bag teams out there like we do with Miami and Boston

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
8:38 pm

smh @ smoove.. just keep the pass clean and simple..

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
8:38 pm

Jason Collins is quietly playing a very solid game

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:38 pm

good post Al..

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:39 pm

wow collins you can at least attempt to block the shot lol

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:39 pm

Bibby is tired so TEague should get in there right now….Jameer is slicing us up

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:39 pm

I dunno@Jeje

Sund will probably be on the phones each day one weekend tryin to make that big move acquire Mario West for a 10 day contract. Another Lockdown defender with one of the best cores in bball = championship caliber (Sund’s mind)

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:40 pm

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:40 pm

Dallas could really have a chance. The Haywood-Chandler combo is the key, Erick Dampier held that position back for so long.

This Orlando team on the other hand looks like it needs some serious time to gel. Their schedule makes this a less-than-opportune moment for that.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:41 pm

“If Mario West was the person guarding Jordan each game of his career, he’d average more turnovers than points per game”

- Rick Sund’s mind

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:41 pm

LOL MAC Town

Remember: Sund drafted Robert Swift, Sene, and Petro 3 years in a row (might not have been in that order for Sene and Petro). Any chance we make a move for one of these studs if one of our Bigs God Forbid goes down?

O'Brien

December 20th, 2010
8:42 pm

What kind of shot was that JJ? Pass the ball!

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:42 pm

Interested who Jameer will talk trash to this game. We know he loves running his mouth

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:42 pm

See that’s a nice shot by Bibby, but those don’t go in in the Playoffs.

This team gets no easy baskets

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:43 pm

ATL turns the ball over too much

Blast

December 20th, 2010
8:43 pm

Joe is trying to do too much.

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:44 pm

If Jameer is talking, then he’s talking to everyone at Philips, because the whole place can hear him.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:44 pm

Orlando has Dallas, San Antonio and Boston [at home] after this

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:45 pm

LMFAO..Robert Swift

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:45 pm

Joe..come on man

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:45 pm

joe needs to be bench

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:45 pm

I kinda wish Joe just didn’t play this game.

He’s disrupting everything on offense now

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:45 pm

HOw many turnovers does Joe Johnson have???? my goodness

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:46 pm

Joe cant be feeling good about his game right now.. smh

O'Brien

December 20th, 2010
8:46 pm

JJ is 0-2 from 3’s (why is he shooting 3’s)?

And JJ has 4 turnovers.

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:46 pm

that boy ignorant.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

is LD scared of joe? hes clearly not running his offense….lmaooo@collins this game is over

drmaryb (*_*)

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

Jeje

I like Dallas too, but they have faded so many years straight.
Maybe, this is their year to make it to the WCF and the Big Dance.
I just don’t see NeOne handling all that size in LA.

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

Wow great pass from Turkoglu

Blast

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

Get it right, Nique. The refs are not letting them play. They have been letting Orlando play.

Hawks are not moving the ball again!

Now Howard is dunking.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

If we lose this game, I don’t mind too much. Just as long as we don’t have to see Marvin on the court

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:47 pm

josh really think hes jordan…he has not hit one fade away shot this season

O'Brien

December 20th, 2010
8:48 pm

Why is JJ forcing these shots? SMH…

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:48 pm

Joe Johnson looking like trash