Atlanta Hawks vs. Magic: Standing pat?

Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.

I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.

All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.

“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”

Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.

“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”

At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.

The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.

“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”

Jamal out, Hawks big

Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.

L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.

L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.

“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”

MC

422 comments Add your comment

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:50 pm

“Mo Evans has missed 67 percent of his tries this season” wooooow

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:50 pm

Look at Jameer, and then look at Bibby. They have the same body type. So why is Jameer so much damn better than Bibby? It’s not like Jameer is terribly young

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

Does orlando have the 2 foul rule for howard? Apparently not.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

COLLINS

YES

EARN THAT [PATHETIC] PAYCHECK U ARE GETTING

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

on that Collins dunk, Za Za takes 1 dribble then shoots the ball over the rim.

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

good job Jason Collins…how about he just start the rest of the year?

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:51 pm

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:52 pm

I think the ORL/PHX trade was as beneficial to 2 teams as you’ll ever see.
Good to see PHX get some defenders and the expiring

Jae Evolution

December 20th, 2010
7:52 pm

Good hustle Marvin.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:52 pm

DAMNIT STOP SHOOTING 3S

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:55 pm

Where the heck is Damien?

Can we just play him and trade Mo for “cap relief”

Najeh Davenpoop

December 20th, 2010
7:57 pm

Out of the Hawks’ “true” centers, Collins is BY FAR the best. It’s amazing how much better than Zaza he is.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:59 pm

Hawks example of “making a big move” = signing the greatest defensive player in NBA history, Mario West, to 10 day contracts. That guy is the best player to ever wear a “Maine Red Claws” jersey.

Van

December 20th, 2010
7:59 pm

Collins has always played good post defense, it’s stupid to keep him on the bench. Use your players! Oh wait, Woody is gone.

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
7:59 pm

They call a lot of moving screens on the Hawks

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:00 pm

A win like this pretty much will prevent management from ever considering making an in-season trade (Sund already said he’ll stick with this core since we’re apparently as good as those Detroit teams).

So, we can lose to every mediocre team but win a game vs. Orlando and that’s all ASG and Sund care about

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:00 pm

wow another turnover on a screen and magic make them pay

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
8:00 pm

at 5:29 of the second quarter we heard that Brandon Bass has good ‘nimbers’

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:00 pm

good offense.. more of that.

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
8:00 pm

god job boss.. more pick and roll plays please..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:01 pm

Magic defense is soft as hell with Dwight having 2 fouls. This is why the miss Gortat

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
8:01 pm

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:01 pm

come on josh dunk on howard

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:01 pm

Orlando’s defense right now looks like Golden State’s would without its 5 best players

Najeh Davenpoop

December 20th, 2010
8:02 pm

As usual, when the offense flows through Smoove and Al, the Hawks succeed. And they have been solid on defense too. LD has generally done a good job of allowing Al to not have to guard Dwight.

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
8:03 pm

Mo Evans is vastly overpaid….I wouldn’t pay him a dollar

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:03 pm

my boy Chipper..

cp

December 20th, 2010
8:03 pm

Yea JeJe it makes no sense to play Mo over Damien. Damien in his short time here has been a lot better than Mo.

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:03 pm

What are all of the tall people of the world doing these days? Where have all of the 7-footers in the nba gone?

terrell

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

I applaud LD for having the guts to bring the #2 pick off the bench. But how in the hell you gonna play Mo over Damien and JC2? Mo is str8 trash.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

If the ASG refuses to make moves in this next year or two, I would seriously consider, as Rod stated earlier, making a run for Dwight after next year.

Get rid of awful contracts like Marvin and Bibby and go for a core of Joe/dwight/Al or Joe/Dwight/Smoove

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

Chipper Jones interview!

Wow, this crowd is sooo quiet on TV. What is up with Atlanta?

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

can we get some foul calls

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

u shouldnt be able to wear #1 in orlando.

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:04 pm

This team cannot shoot 3s. Every single shot goes off the rim then the top of the backboard

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:05 pm

does joe think hes wade???

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:05 pm

I almost feel bad for Orlando. They look nowhere near as intimidating as they have in past years. With that said, I hope we win this game

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:05 pm

The only time Pastor Troy gets playin time is against the Magic. He wishes we played them every game.

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:05 pm

“Mo is str8 trash.”

Yes of course, THAT’s the problem with this team, prioritizing Mo Evans. If only…

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

Je Je..

Joe.. Dwight.. Smoove

is in my prayers nightly..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

Orlando had Arenas on Marvin. That’s how much they respect our superstar Small Forward

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

Here go the Hawks: giving away their first half edge.

Waiting til the 4th when we start turning it over

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

hawks cant close out a half

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:07 pm

There it goes again……a guard driving to the rim, WITH EASE. This happens way too much seemingly every game.

cp

December 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

smh Bibby. He cant stay in front of anybody

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
8:08 pm

im sure they’ll gladly take a solid Al Horford back in central fla.

Van

December 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

I bet the LEGENDARILY TERRIBLE ATLANTA CROWD is actually part of the home court advantage. Our players will be the only ones who know how to show energy in that kind of environment.

If we had fans who cheer, the Magic may realize they aren’t playing in a morgue and commence the beatdown.

Good job ATLiens!

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

Just bench Marvin and Mo.

Every time I see Marvin check into the game, I look at how awful his back and other body parts are and i feel embarrassed he is on our team – no homo

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
8:09 pm

We just pass it in the post and stand around. Isos isos isos

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
8:09 pm