Atlanta Hawks vs. Magic: Standing pat?

Snooped around a bit today to see if there any trade winds blowing for the Hawks in light of their inconsistent play, the Magic’s big weekend trade and the Celtics and and Heat streaking to the top of the East. Sorry, blog people, but all still sounds quiet.

I understand the consternation. It feels like everyone else is moving ahead in the East while the Hawks stand still. Miami, Chicago and Boston made their moves over the summer. Orlando (surprisingly) made theirs in December. The Hawks basically have the same guys, with the same strengths and weaknesses, still trying to prove they are on the same level as those teams.

All of the chatter surrounding trades doesn’t go unnoticed in the Hawks’ locker room, of course, though you won’t find guys openly advocating for a shakeup.

“I think we are OK where we are at,” Al said. “Joe is getting back healthy. That’s what I think but, at the end of the day, it comes down to management and what they feel like is best. If they feel like we can contend for a championship with this team, then it will be like this. If not, then I don’t know.”

Smoove again noted the Hawks haven’t been healthy. Rotation players have missed 23 players due to injury.

“It messes up the timing. it messes up the positions,” Josh said. “I’ve probably split the three and the four this season. When you know the different rotations of the game and what’s going to happen, I think it makes it that much easier because everything is combined I think when we get everybody healthy and figure out the rotation that’s positive for us, I think we will pull a string of wins together like everyone else is right now.”

At this point, it seems the injuries are the only reasonable counterargument the Hawks could offer to the need to make some moves. Good health won’t necessarily solve the team’s weaknesses but it would at least allow for a better evaluation. I know the Celtics have rolled despite their injuries but they are better equipped to do so from a financial standpoint. The Heat have the Super Friends, a defense-first culture and enough solid pieces around the Big Three to get it done despite injuries to Mike Miller and Haslem.

The Hawks have a slimmer margin to be good and the injuries have made it even smaller.

“I think that’s fair to say,” Al said. “Ultimately it comes down to Rick Sund, the GM, to determine if he feels we are still contenders or if he feels like we need to do something. All I am going to do is go out there and keep playing hard.”

Jamal out, Hawks big

Jamal is out again. He said he was hoping to play but the back is still too sore. He could probably function but the thought of shaking and baking or making any other kind of sudden movements still makes him wince.

L.D. is going with the big lineup: Bibby, J.J., Smoove, Al, Twin.

L.D. said preparing for the new-look Magic is similar to preparing for the old-look Magic. He said J-Rich is like Vince except not quite as strong on pick-and-rolls. Turkoglu is a stretch four like Rashard, except a better passer and ballhandler. The Hawks have to watch Arenas closely in transition.

“Still the main guy is Dwight and what you do with him,” L.D. said. “The gameplan is to defend him as well as you can and also defend that 3-point line because that’s where they kill you.”

MC

422 comments Add your comment

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
7:11 pm

lets get it..

no need for the announcers to talk about the thin front line outside of Dwight. we just dont have the personnel to take advantage..

no threat to attack the rim.. no low post threats..

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
7:14 pm

thats the off the dribble non sense i dont need from Smoove..

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
7:20 pm

Josh showing the ability to knock down the set jumper.. rather from mid range or 3..

keep taking em’ Smoove..

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:22 pm

Marvin didnt start. PROOF GOD IS REAL.

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
7:22 pm

good start by the hawks.. i like the intensity on the defensive end..

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:23 pm

Jason Collins giving Dwight some trouble in the post.

mykhalc

December 20th, 2010
7:24 pm

@ {MAC-Town Georgia 478}…LMAO…

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:27 pm

I know the Magic loaded up in that trade, but it seemed like in quite a few games Vince Carter really burned us late in critical moments. I’m glad he’s gone, plus no Gortat and his size.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:27 pm

is joe wearing 13s?

terrell

December 20th, 2010
7:27 pm

LD needs to stick with this lineup. Collins gives us more than Marvin does.

Rod from College Park

December 20th, 2010
7:28 pm

Marvin not starting? What? Is the world about to end?

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:28 pm

oh lord speaking of the duck

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:29 pm

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:31 pm

Marvin in. Here is the beginning of the expierment. Will he respond to being designated the Scrub-Captain? Will his alpha-dog bark?

Bailey

December 20th, 2010
7:31 pm

Is it just me, or does it seem like almost every time Joe tries to isolate these days it results in something bad happening?

Samuel

December 20th, 2010
7:31 pm

JJ trying to pad his AllStar votes. Woody flashback. ISO Joe. LOL!!

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:32 pm

Joe must be spending too much time down at the club where the stripper he got pregnant works. He on that “I’m in Luv With A Stripper” T-Pain tip

Get in the game man.

Van

December 20th, 2010
7:32 pm

What the Magic did with their trades is what any team should do. Who cares about standing pat when you aren’t contending, shake it up, change the dynamics, give your fans a chance to stay awake instead of watching Joe Johnson for 500 years.

It’s professional sports, it ain’t that big a deal, do something INTERESTING!

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:33 pm

lol joe knocked up a stripper?

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:34 pm

yeah@J.J.M

lmao google “joe johnson stripper”

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:35 pm

Horford BAWSIN

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:35 pm

horford didnt wait…thats what he needs to do more

bigdave

December 20th, 2010
7:35 pm

Jeff has to demand the ball from Mo.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:36 pm

smh mo evans

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:37 pm

teague needs to sit out

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:37 pm

every time the hawks get some momentum on offense, they get a moving screen call. Seems to happen when zaza is in the game

Samuel

December 20th, 2010
7:38 pm

Magic better make another move. Richardson can’t guard big 2’s and Malik Allen, please.

Van

December 20th, 2010
7:38 pm

Atlanta only up 6 with the Magic shooting horrendously. Yeah, this lead is going to last.

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:39 pm

Mo’s leg injury spread to his mind. He is not the same person who started the season

Bailey

December 20th, 2010
7:40 pm

I’m very curious to see who Orlando plays at center when Dwight goes to the bench. My guess is that it will be either Malik Allen or Brandon Bass, but in either case, that leaves them pretty vulnerable inside. I’m also surprised not to see Ryan Anderson yet. I would have thought that he would be the first big coming off of the bench for Orlando.

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:40 pm

lmao at least that stripper is decent looking

http://mediatakeout.com/mobile/content/?view=42625

Najeh Davenpoop

December 20th, 2010
7:41 pm

I’m at the game. Late arriving crowd as usual for a 7 pm game. Good first quarter, but too much iso-Joe for my taste. I want to see the so-called new offense in action with Joe involved.

pinoy hawk

December 20th, 2010
7:42 pm

dont like this lineup.. need JJ or bibby to setup the plays.. teague just deferring to the vets..

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:43 pm

I am a bit disappointed with Al’s comments about Sund and making moves. He is the leader and the one with the most apssion to win on this team. So why is he so passive? He needs to let MGMT know if a trade needs to be made

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:44 pm

wtfffffff is wrong with mo evans

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:44 pm

All this team does is take jumpshots. if Dwight is out why the hell are we still shooting 3s?

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:44 pm

Mo Evans = more useless than Zaza and Marvin

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:45 pm

PG – Josh Smith

Rev in Tampa

December 20th, 2010
7:45 pm

get mo evans out of the game and leave him on the bench

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

WTF is up with Horford’s comments? how the hell can we possibly be competing if we are barely out of the 6 seed in the East.

Call out Management already and let’s get some damn moves made

Najeh Davenpoop

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

Mo Evans just finished one of the more horrible stretches of basketball I’ve ever seen an NBA player have.

YoDaddy

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

Mo Evans is the worst!!! Suit up Pape Sy and send Mo to the D-League

airball a wide open three and airballing layups….just trash

JJ sucks Balls

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

- JJ flat out SUCKS, he shouldn’t make the All-Star Team.
- I hate when Josh Smith gets so close to the basket, but then he takes a jumper.

{MAC-Town Georgia 478}

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

We can move Bibby and/or Teague in a deal now that Josh Smith is our PG

J.J.M

December 20th, 2010
7:46 pm

get mo off the team period…why not put in jordan over mo I mean seriously

terrell

December 20th, 2010
7:47 pm

What I’ve seen so far:
Marvin and Mo need to join Pape Sy in the D-League.
Teague looks better.
Josh is a better sf than Marvin and Mo put together.
All we need is a legit center and pg and we’ll be str8.

cp

December 20th, 2010
7:48 pm

smh Mo is shooting 26% this month. how is he still getting minutes is beyond me smh.. well at least they are sending Sy to the D League next week..

The Hawks are winning so thats good.

JJ sucks Balls

December 20th, 2010
7:49 pm

I agree we need to bench Mo and play Jordan. Larry Drew Can’t coach.

drmaryb (*_*)

December 20th, 2010
7:49 pm

From Last Blog:

Fundamentals

Hell Yeah! Every Game Counts … Are you kidding me? The competition in the
NBA is fierce and conference standings determine:

Home Court Advantage
Strength of Opponent (esp in Round 1)

Joe needs to play ALL 82 Games for 48 Minutes if healthy.

In response to Fundamentals who said this:

“If Joe is really worried about the TEAM he should get 100%, pass the ball when he’s off, not shoot 3’s till he’s back and focus on wins. I’m glad he appears
rested and ready to play, but worry about if the elbow is truly ready.”

And also, Joe is a SG: That means he is paid to shoot the damn thing!
If your shot is cold, YOU Keep shooting, until it gets HOT!
Every shooter thinks the next shot is going in.
Who would you rather take the open jumper? Marvin?
Joe leads this team in assists 6 years straight, why? Because the dumb Azz GM won’t go get a damned PG! How is it selfish to shoot when you are the BEST shooting option and paid to do so, on this jacked up team of 12 Tweeners!

Al & Josh’s azz need to stay in the post, I don’t need to see them taking jumpers, who is gonna rebound when they miss? Bigs Play INSIDE for And 1’s and The Guar ds play outside and shoot, hopefully the PG’s will penetrate.

Teague is a terrible passer, BTW!

Hey Grand-Daddy! What’s up Baby?

JeJe

December 20th, 2010
7:50 pm

God Bless Jason Collins

What a vet