Atlanta Hawks at Nets: Magic make moves; Hawks wait and see

Newark–The Magic come to Philips Arena tomorrow with a whole new look. Hard to tell what it will mean for Atlanta’s division rival until we see how Orlando’s new pieces come together.

“They add guys that can shoot the ball,” L.D. said. “But they got rid of guys that can shoot it, as well. I was very surprised that they pulled the trigger on it. I had heard about but it just surprised me that they pulled the trigger.”

My initial reaction is that the Magic probably got better on the perimeter but without Gortat will have issues in the frontcourt when Dwight gets into foul trouble. The former just means the Hawks will have the same challenges as always in defending the Magic; the latter means the Magic (as presently constructed) will have to go small when Dwight is on the bench and that helps the Hawks.

J-Rich is a more versatile scorer than VC. Arenas comes with a bad knee and baggage but he says he’s ready to come off the bench and so will immediately fill a need for Orlando. Turkoglu had fallen off since leaving Orlando but perhaps a return to his playmaking role will rejuvenate him.

“Turkoglu has always been a tough guard because he has size and he can handle the ball,” L.D. said. “But I think it remains to be seen with the other guys. Both Carter and Rashard Lewis are guys that have always played well against us as far as making shots. Them getting Turokglu and Richardson and Arenas they add three guys who are just as potent from the outside. I think it just becomes a matter of whether the chemistry works out, and that just remains to be seen as they play with one another and get a feel for one another.”

Even after their recent struggles, the Magic are in a virtual tie in the standings with the Hawks. They had a good team before the moves.

“It definitely surprised me,” Marvin said. “They moved their whole team. I guess they have a vision how they want things and they thought it wasn’t working. They had to change it up, I guess. They could have gotten better. They bring Richardson in who averages 20. Hedo had a monster season when he was there the year they got to the Finals. You never know how it will work out.”

The consensus seems to be that the Magic made the move to appease Dwight and also in reaction to the Celtics and Heat streaking.

From Mike Bianchi of the Orlando Sentinel:

We don’t know if these trades will work or not, but what we do know is this: The Magic were not going to win anything by standing pat. This team is 16-10, has lost six of its last seven and is 3-6 against opponents with .500 records or better. It was becoming increasingly evident the Magic could not compete for a championship with a slumping Rashard Lewis and an aging Vince Carter in the lineup.

Replace “slumping Rashard Lewis” with “inconsistent Marvin Williams,” and “aging Vince Carter” with “aging Mike Bibby” and couldn’t he be talking about the Hawks?

Jamal out, Joe a go

Jamal will sit out his third consecutive game with a sore back. L.D. said J.J. was good the day after his return.

“He didn’t complain about anything,” Drew said. “He said it felt fine. No soreness. He said it felt good.”

Drew said he didn’t anticipate that it would take long for Joe to get back in the flow.

“It’s just a matter of him getting his timing back, getting his rhythm back,” he said. “Anytime you miss a few games it is always a little difficult at the beginning of regaining that rhythm and that timing. I am certain that he will get it back.”

MC

202 comments Add your comment

lp

December 19th, 2010
2:10 pm

Got to get it together josh, pick up the play

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:10 pm

I was for josh shooting jumpers…im not sure how I feel now

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:12 pm

the way josh playing he might not make the all-star team…hmm maybe thats why hes playing bad because hes trying to earn a spot on the team

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:13 pm

the set jumpers from Josh are ok w/ me.. its the ones he takes off the dribble, drifiting, or falling away that i dont understand.. if Josh is dribbling he should be attacking looking to score or dish.. not pulling up.

Melvin

December 19th, 2010
2:15 pm

Hawks scored 13pts in the 2nd qtr (ouch) and that’s after a 30pt 1st qtr…

Jrue5

December 19th, 2010
2:16 pm

Jsmoove, stop taking wild jumpers & those threes….Please for Atl!

ryan

December 19th, 2010
2:17 pm

It does appear that there could be trades that Hawks are looking at Bobcats want to rid of everyone Trail Blazers want to dump salary and don’t be surprised if Nash gets moved .

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:19 pm

im so out yo leagueeee

SMOOVE SAILING

December 19th, 2010
2:22 pm

NAW, IT BOTHERING HIM THAT HE HAS TO GIVE HORFORD JOSH’S TIME AT THE POWER FORWARD. JOSH SAYS HES A POWER FORWARD NOT A SMALL FORWARD AND WANTS HIS POSITION BACK.

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:25 pm

lol suns trying to trade childress

wordsmithtom

December 19th, 2010
2:26 pm

Bigdave, I echo that. Smoove should finish like an elephant, not like a balerina in a tutu.

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:27 pm

Marvin posting gets ball knocked out hands..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:28 pm

Joe out the post swings it to open Marvin .. who swings it to Josh.. who nails set 3..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:29 pm

Josh nice drive and kick to an open Joe who cant hit from 3..

lp

December 19th, 2010
2:29 pm

Joe take it back to the basket

ROFLMFAO

December 19th, 2010
2:32 pm

WORDSMITH TOM
balerina

CORRECT WORD, TOM SMITH: ballerina

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:34 pm

i like the ball movement..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:35 pm

the offense is not Joe heavy..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:36 pm

he appears to be trusting his teammates and their abilities ..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:38 pm

might want to put Collins in on Lopez..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:40 pm

seen more layups from Bibby early this year than ive seen since he became a Hawk..

lp

December 19th, 2010
2:42 pm

Iso joe and a free throw

ROFLMFAO

December 19th, 2010
2:42 pm

Naw, our center al horford can handle Lopez

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:45 pm

why cant josh not make a easy shot at the basket unless hes not dunkng

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
2:46 pm

I still dont see no motion offense…

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:46 pm

would’ve liked to see Jeff go all the way there instead of kicking it ahead to Bibby..

Bailey

December 19th, 2010
2:51 pm

Same old problem on the offensive end for the Hawks – not enough touches for Al. He hasn’t had a single shot since early in the third quarter.

northcyde

December 19th, 2010
2:51 pm

LOL . . this is one of the worst basketball games I’ve ever seen. Sloppy . . sloppy . . sloppy.

The Hawks better pick up their defense in a big way, or they’ll give this game away. We need a good solid 3 – 5 minutes out of the benchm

Smith ice cold . . JJ 1 for his last 8

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
2:54 pm

good move boy..

northcyde

December 19th, 2010
2:58 pm

Ger your starters back in the game Drew.

Why Larry? Why not call the timeout and get them into the game when they went up 5? Now we’re down 8.

( sigh ) . . oh well. Let’s see if this team will play with a sense of urgency now.

Bailey

December 19th, 2010
2:58 pm

I don’t like the small lineup that L.D. has on the floor. He’s basically playing 4 guards and a short four man in Powell. It’s creating way too many mismatches. He needs to get Al and Marvin back in ASAP.

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:00 pm

good d from Bibby 2 straight possessions..

Kaveman

December 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

Why are you trying to be Magic Johnson? Josh!

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

then hits a big shot..

J.J.M

December 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

why is joe on the court…hawks played so much better without him and now they will lose to the damn nets again..make a trade this team will not get anywhere with this roster

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:01 pm

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:02 pm

inability to secure the board results in 3..

northcyde

December 19th, 2010
3:03 pm

JJ stumblin, bumblin across the court. Shift it into 5th gear #2. Get out of 2nd gear.

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:03 pm

way to step up and hit em..

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:05 pm

i think Collins needs to get on the floor and move Josh to 3..

Kaveman

December 19th, 2010
3:05 pm

We definelty need an overhaul!!!!! Like the Magic!

northcyde

December 19th, 2010
3:06 pm

LOL . . we need to go to Marvin. He closed out last game. Maybe he can do it again.

First team to 82 wins this game.

wordsmithtom

December 19th, 2010
3:06 pm

ROLFLMFAO, when dude starts playing better, I’ll worry about spelling better. JS is playing worse than I spell. Just keeping it real. Oh, and a man who worries about the way another man spells a word is nothing but a control freik. Get over your sorryazz self.

lp

December 19th, 2010
3:07 pm

If the game is lost chalk it up to having month and damien wilkens in at the same time with teague powell and joe. Month and damien should never be in together

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:07 pm

bigdave

December 19th, 2010
3:09 pm

gotta learn how to go over right shoulder.

Melvin

December 19th, 2010
3:09 pm

Hawks look terrible on offense…

Hawks vs Nets

December 19th, 2010
3:09 pm

From to looks of things, the Nets will be the first to 82

northcyde

December 19th, 2010
3:09 pm

Bad . . bad . . bad . . bad.

Nets at 80 already.

Hawks vs Nets

December 19th, 2010
3:12 pm

losing to the Nets before facing Orlando … don’t know if that’s good or not