Atlanta Hawks at Celtics: Can they do it without J.J. and Jamal?
Boston–Jamal is out with a sore back. J.J. is back in Atlanta.
Is there any chance the Hawks can go back home with a W?
Under the best circumstances, it would be difficult for the Hawks to do it; it will be dang tough while missing an All-Star and Sixth Man Award winner. Then again, somehow win this one and it really would mean redemption for that Nov. 22 surrender at Philips.
On Boston’s side, Rondo says he’s in despite a balky ankle. (Update: Celtics GM Danny Ainge says Rondo to miss “weeks” with injury.) Shaq says he’s out. Even if Shaq plays, L.D. said plans to send out the big lineup with Twin at center.
“I want to play Al at the four,” Drew said. “The rookie [Semih Erden] is real long. I like the matchup better moving Smoove to three and Marvin to two; it gives us an advantage on the offensive end. We will match up Smoove on Pierce [to] put a little length on him to see if that bothers him. We will try to do some thing offensively with Allen having to defend Marvin. See if we can create an advantage size-wise with that.”
Maybe the Celtics will be sapped after that hard-fought W at Madison Square Garden last night. Perhaps the Hawks will chapped by that ugly L at Detroit and motivated to save face against the C’s. Of course Boston beat down the Hawks on a back-to-back last time with energy ball Nate Robinson doing the damage early.
The Celtics did show some vulnerability last night. It was shocking to see the Knicks working the pick-and-roll so easily. Doc noted he couldn’t put KG or Big Baby on Amar’e too often because the power rotation is thin without Shaq, J. O’Neal and Perkins. Can the Hawks take advantage, too? Note that the Knicks only have two Ls since Nov. 16, to the Celtics and Hawks.
Granted, the Hawks don’t have Amar’e pogo sticking as their roll man but Al is deadly on the pick-and-pop and Smoove is a load when he gets the ball going to the rim. Together, they are like a composite Amar’e. Gallinari was a weapon for the Knicks–ESPN talker Jeff Van Gundy noted that the C’s couldn’t “short close” on him at the 3-point line because he’s so big he can shoot over them, and once they closed hard Gallinari went by them to the hole. Dare I say Smoove should try to do the same if he makes the first couple (inevitable) 3-pointers he launches?
The Knicks did enough to get some respect from the Celtics, who aren’t the types to give it easily:
“They test our defense,” Pierce said. “There are few teams in the NBA that test our defense. That’s one of them because they go small ball and they put four shooters on the court. Then when you got a big man who’s an elite scorer in this league, who can shoot from everywhere, they’re a tough guard.”
“I’ll say one thing about the Knicks, they’re confidence is obviously through the roof,” Garnett said. “Definitely a team to reckon with.”
Obviously L.D. watched Knicks-Celtics, too, and he noticed some things. He said the Hawks would run a lot of pick-and-rolls and also try to run with Teague and JC2 getting some burn looking to do both.
“They struggled with [the pick-and-roll],” L.D. said. “New York, they picked up the pace, too. In that fourth quarter a few times Boston scored and New York got the ball out, came right back down and scored. It’s that type of tempo we have had success [with] in the past playing at that pace. At the same time, you have got to be smart coming down and not jacking up that ill-advised shots, especially on the road.”
MC
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lewis
December 16th, 2010
2:46 pm
git’rdone
lewis
December 16th, 2010
2:46 pm
nice post btw
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
2:52 pm
No shot at this game if Marvin doesn’t show up.
all star voting thus far
December 16th, 2010
2:54 pm
Forwards: Forwards:
LeBron James (Heat) 607,994
Kevin Garnett (Celtics) 456,111
Amar’e Stoudemire (Knicks) 327,626
Paul Pierce (Celtics) 235,107
Chris Bosh (Heat) 161,801
Josh Smith (Hawks) 104,713
Carlos Boozer (Bulls) 82,655
Andre Iguodala (Sixers) 71,517
Danny Granger (Pacers) 66,759
Luol Deng (Bulls) 52,398 Kevin Durant (Thunder) 470,881
Pau Gasol (Lakers) 390,808
Carmelo Anthony (Nuggets) 369,768
Dirk Nowitzki (Mavericks) 264,301
Tim Duncan (Spurs) 247,364
Blake Griffin (Clippers) 245,167
Lamar Odom (Lakers) 134,594
Luis Scola (Rockets) 119,901
Caron Butler (Mavericks) 96,785
Kevin Love (Wolves) 81,865
Guards: Guards:
Dwyane Wade (Heat) 570,489
Rajon Rondo (Celtics) 497,141
Derrick Rose (Bulls) 424,356
Ray Allen (Celtics) 235,977
John Wall (Wizards) 120,284
Vince Carter (Magic) 117,628
Gilbert Arenas (Wizards) 88,599
Brandon Jennings (Bucks) 65,705
Joe Johnson (Hawks) 46,811
Jamal Crawford (Hawks) 31,524 Kobe Bryant (Lakers) 722,682
Chris Paul (Hornets) 386,649
Manu Ginobili (Spurs) 230,137
Steve Nash (Suns) 190,226
Deron Williams (Jazz) 184,148
Jason Kidd (Mavericks) 141,283
Russell Westbrook (Thunder) 140,519
Eric Gordon (Clippers) 113,510
Tony Parker (Spurs) 103,238,
Derek Fisher (Lakers) 81,088
Centers: Centers:
Dwight Howard (Magic) 611,561
Shaquille O’Neal (Celtics) 241,782
Joakim Noah (Bulls) 97,163
Andrea Bargnani (Raptors) 53,275
Al Horford (Hawks) 49,098
Andrew Bogut (Bucks) 48,298
Brook Lopez (Nets) 38,103
JaVale McGee (Wizards) 36,227
Roy Hibbert (Pacers) 35,006
Ben Wallace (Pistons) 21,858 Yao Ming (Rockets) 430,984
Andrew Bynum (Lakers) 198,044
Brendan Haywood (Mavericks) 127,375
Marc Gasol (Grizzlies) 120,811
Emeka Okafor (Hornets) 115,647
Nene (Nuggets) 105,747
Chris Kaman (Clippers) 87,536
Marcus Camby (Blazers) 57,046
DeMarcus Cousins (Kings) 37,571
Andris Biedrins (Warriors) 36,655
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
2:55 pm
Glad to see JT and JC2 going to get some action. Smart move LD. I wonder if starting ZaZa wouldn’t be another smart move.
And for those thinking Marvin at the 4 would be a good idea, I find it interesting that LD would rather play him at 2 than 4. I know it’s about personnel, but still….
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
2:59 pm
It looks like it may KG and Stoudamire as the East PF’s, which would be a shame really. I think it should be Stoudamire/Josh. I do think Al’s got a real shot behind Dwight at the C spot. 2 straight All Stars for Al? Hope so and good for him.
Looks like JJ’s streak is stopped at 4 straight All Star game appearances, unless he comes on really strong from the surgery. But most likely done.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
3:02 pm
Michael, good post. The answer to your question is no. There’s not a chance of the Hawks winning tonight. I think every member of the Celtics could play with their left hands tied behind their backs and the Hawks still would not win.
I just hope the Hawks show a little pride, at least. The game on 11/22 was pathetic. It never fails to amaze me how willing the Hawks are to give up. If they do that tonight, they might lose by 50-points.
Too bad TNT picked this game to televise. It’s going to get ugly.
Mike is back
December 16th, 2010
3:03 pm
MC, Great to hear Teague and JC2 will/might get some Burn…hard to predict how the game will go tonight…Eton would be good change of pace to go with too…Zaza has not fared well against physical players like Big Baby.
Rod from College Park
December 16th, 2010
3:03 pm
No. We have no other scorers.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
3:06 pm
I know PER can be overrated, but I find it interesting Jeff Teague will have the 3rd highest PER among active Hawks tonight. He’s 5th overall behind Jamal, JJ, Josh, and Al. BTW, Josh has a slightly better PER than Kevin Garnett. He (Josh) deserves the All Star team at this point to me.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
3:10 pm
Joe Johnson has 46,811 votes too many for the all star game. He shouldn’t even have one.
Proud to say that I’ve voted about 20 times and have not voted for Joe Johnson once.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
3:12 pm
I do think the Hawks have a chance tonight, especially if Josh shows some maturity. I think JT and JC2 can make it interesting, along with Josh, Al, Wilkens and Co. Too bad Rondo’s playing or I’d really like our chances.
But if Josh starts whining early, it will bleed into the younger players like JT and maybe JC2, and they will start playing defeated ball as well. And if Marvin and ZaZa happen to show up (which I doubt esp. with ZaZa), we have a really good shot.
I say start ZaZa and bring Etan off the bench at PF and see what happens. Criticize Sund all we want too, and I have vociferously, but he has built us a flexible team, and that’s good when the injury bug hits like now.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
3:13 pm
But what a debacle at Detroit, man it causes me to doubt our team.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
3:17 pm
Does the West have some good PG’s or what? Paul, Nash, DeRon, Westbrook, Tony Parker. Can’t we just get 1 or them?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
3:23 pm
Shaq says he’s out. Even if Shaq plays, L.D. said plans to send out the big lineup with Twin at center.
MC, what does this mean? Does this mean we are playing a big lineup regardless? I still don’t get why we didn’t use the big lineup in Atlanta.
Shaq was sonning Al that night
Fresh
December 16th, 2010
3:32 pm
JC2,
Here is your chance! Bright lights, big city! Wha’chu got kid??
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
3:33 pm
No, Teague and JC2 better not get “some burn”…
They better get a whole lotta minutes in this game. No joke.
We’re not gonna win this game with Mo Evans…
So JC2 better see extended minutes tonight.
Don’t expect to win it with the rook out there either – but best believe he’s a hell of a lot better than Mo.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
3:35 pm
If LD is going to start the big lineup and plan to play JC2, does this mean Mo will get his mins cut? Assuming that Damien will play backup SF.
JoJo the Godfather
December 16th, 2010
3:36 pm
LD said “We will try to do some thing offensively with Allen having to defend Marvin.”…Hopefully the plan doesn’t involve letting Ray Allen strip the ball from Marvin’s hands.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
3:40 pm
Marvin will show up if given the oppurtunity
cp
December 16th, 2010
3:41 pm
I think the injuries are just too much for the Hawks to overcome tonight. I just hope they play hard. The last game against Boston was ugly but JC2 came in and played hard.. When they get hit in the mouth tonight they cant put their heads down and start playing sloppy selfish ball.
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
3:42 pm
So LD would rather have Horford defended by KG than Erden? Wow.
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 16th, 2010
3:42 pm
JORDAN CRAWFORD WILL HAVE HIS BREAKOUT GAME AGAINST THE C’S JUST LIKE MICHAEL JORDAN DID BACK IN ‘86…THATS MY PREDICTION…..GIVE JC2 THE RRRROOOOOOOCCCCCKKKKKKKKKK !!!!
Daniel
December 16th, 2010
3:46 pm
Of course Rondo is going to go tonight. LD never plays Teague, so Bibby is going to be checking Rondo all night. Even hobbled, Rondo can blow by Bibby…
Daniel
December 16th, 2010
3:49 pm
MC,
Why doesn’t LD give Teague more consistent burn, especially against teams with quick PGs? Bibby can’t guard quick PGs to save his life. Plus putting Jamal at the point makes no sense whatsoever. All he does is look for his own shot.
Do you think LD is feeling the same pressure Woody did and is only looking to win today with no regard for the future?
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
3:49 pm
Do they have a chance?
U serious
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
3:53 pm
Hawks got no shot tonight or tomorrow night. They get crushed tonight by at least 30, down 20 in the second qrtr!! On TNT. It’s going to be ugly…Go Marvin!
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
3:56 pm
@ it was not a bad pick
“Marvin will show up if given the oppurtunity”!
Dude Marvin has been given 6 years of opportunities. We the fans are tired of his sorry game, and we mean very sorry game..Kick Rocks Marvin!!!!
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
3:58 pm
Jordan Crawford will have to drop 50 to give the Hawks a chance tonight!
dap01
December 16th, 2010
3:58 pm
Nothing is as painful as watching Bibby shuffle down the court. He has no athletic ability to move. He can shoot though.
RealSquawk
December 16th, 2010
4:03 pm
Have the C’s ever said anything that respectful about the Hawks? If not and I don’t think they have, I wonder how teams feel about the Hawks.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:04 pm
@ATL FAN
Trust us, Marvin wont show up tonight. Paul Pierce will make him cry on national TV..Hawks have better shot if he is benched!!
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
4:06 pm
Josh Smith is starting out on Paul Pierce.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
4:12 pm
Slim Jr
marvin was not drafted to be the man…the man is Joe max who currently is nursing an bad elbow…with the 2 quick shot brothers both hurt, Marvin should get some plays called for him tonight..Also Drew is starting a true center….i predict a close win with Marvin hitting one of his famous corner threes or maybe one of his many sportscenter highlight dunks…..
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
4:13 pm
‘it was not a bad pick’ = Marvin Williams! lol
Hey Marvin, here is your chance. Go out and have a big game. Offensively, the Hawks need a 20+ point game from within the system. Defensively, the Hawks need you to shut down whomever you are guarding.
If you accomplish this, I’ll be the first to give you your props.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
4:14 pm
Oh, did I mention Joe Max last three years are all worth over 20 mill a year….16 ppg 20 mil….marvin 6 mill 10 ppg,solid D,no turnovers…
Ramon
December 16th, 2010
4:15 pm
LD can not afford to have a 2 foul Rule tonight.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:16 pm
“NEWSFLASH LD” you don’t have Amarie to run the pick and pop with. You have undersized AL, Josh ” I think I will be like magic johnson and the battle tested, WNBA MVP MMMarvin Williams.. Goodluck LD………….
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
4:17 pm
Do the two remaining captains need to “shut down” their opposing player tonight? It looks like LD is putting Al on KG and Josh on Pierece… so I guess we need for KG and Pierce to score less than 25 combined? Meanwhile, Marvin will be chasing Ray Allen around 2-3 screens… because it is so clear that Marvin is the best Hawk available to chase Allen around screens.
lewis
December 16th, 2010
4:21 pm
someone needs to frustrate ray allen
i like ray but dude is a nasty competitor and will stomp on nuts when given the chance
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
4:21 pm
Al is the same size as Amar’e … but I get the point. Al plays a bit smaller than Amar’e. However, Al’s face-up jumper is just as solid as Amar’e’s, so the pick and pop might work well … or does the pick and pop only work well against the C’s when the player doing the popping also can legitimately go hard to the rack on a pick and roll? If that is the case, that may be the difference between Al and the Hawks being successful at pick and roll/pick and popping and Amar’e and the Knicks being successful at it.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:23 pm
@ J from the A
“it was not a bad pick’ = Marvin Williams! lol”
“Hey Marvin, here is your chance. Go out and have a big game. Offensively, the Hawks need a 20+ point game from within the system. Defensively, the Hawks need you to shut down whomever you are guarding”.
“If you accomplish this, I’ll be the first to give you your props”.
Save your “props”..This bust will be invisible again tonight! He scored 4 points against Miami!!The Celtics are a lot better defensive team…Marvin go put on a skirt and play with the girls…
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:27 pm
Marvin could not case his shadow…..
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
4:29 pm
LOL
Marvin said he shows up to the arena an hour before.
Ray Allen shows up at like noon and shoots jumpers and has his daily meal and does his daily rituals
Shows who has been an all star and who hasn’t.
If Marvin never played in a playoff game again, do you all think he’d care?
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:31 pm
@ J form the A
“Al’s face-up jumper is just as solid as Amar’e’s”. Are u kidding me?? Al has a basic “set” shot! A has a real “pro” jump shot… No comparo’s there…A has much more range also add to the fact he plays above the rim dude…
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
4:34 pm
Danny Ainge just made a report on NBA.com that Rondo will miss a ‘couple of weeks’ with a left ankle sprain, so now Bibby has to check Nate all night, which is even worse in my opinion…
lewis
December 16th, 2010
4:34 pm
rondo out a couple weeks
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
4:35 pm
And Yao Ming’s season is done with a stress fracture…
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:35 pm
Nate playing tonight instead of Rondo????? OH NO!!!! HAWKS LOSE BY 40!!!
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:36 pm
Yao Ming’s=SAM BOWIE
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
4:41 pm
@it was not a bad pick
“marvin was not drafted to be the man…the man is Joe max who currently is nursing an bad elbow…with the 2 quick shot brothers both hurt, Marvin should get some plays called for him tonight..Also Drew is starting a true center….i predict a close win with Marvin hitting one of his famous corner threes or maybe one of his many sportscenter highlight dunks….
Dude what are you smoking?? Put down the pipe please…………….
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
4:46 pm
Rondo out “weeks.”
Is that a good or bad thing given how Nate plays against us?
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
4:47 pm
If marvin gets 10 or more shot attempts tonight he will get 20 or better..just to big, strong and skilled to even be held down by his own team
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
4:49 pm
WE NEED TO RUN THE BASKETBALL, TIRE OUT NATE SO THEY HAVE NO BACKUP PG
UPTEMPO BASKETBALL
NONE OF THIS HALFCOURT BS
WE CAN WIN THIS GAME
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
4:51 pm
Can we offer a trade to Houston for Lowry and J. Hill…
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
4:54 pm
Slim jr…
marvin has hit many big shots in the past..I can remember the celtics game, the wizards game, i was there when he calmly drained that three..he will show up tonight..no Joe Max,no jamal…You will see why the bucks had to really think about that #1 pick…oh no pipe just some purple and blue anthrax….
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
5:12 pm
Might the Hawks have a chance? The Celtics, who are normally a very deep team, are looking pretty thin down low and now Rondo is out. hmmm … but of course the not-so-deep Hawks are missing their biggest scoring threat (JJ) and their biggest scoring threat off the bench (JC1). If Josh and Al play as solid as they have been AND if Marvin can really step it up AND if one of our bench players (JC2, Teague, or MO) is able to have a stand out game, then MAYBE the Hawks pull out a win. That is a lot of IFs, but I guess it is possible.
(Out of those three IFs, which one is least likely to happen?)
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
5:21 pm
@ It was not a bad pick
“f marvin gets 10 or more shot attempts tonight he will get 20 or better..just to big, strong and skilled to even be held down by his own team”
“marvin has hit many big shots in the past..I can remember the celtics game, the wizards game, i was there when he calmly drained that three..he will show up tonight..no Joe Max,no jamal…You will see why the bucks had to really think about that #1 pick…oh no pipe just some purple and blue anthrax….”
JJ has hit many big shot too…But since you are Marvin’s only fan on these blogs I will give you credit for being that one lone voice kissing his huge kaboose..Marvin hits one “big” shot about once every three months!! Unacceptable in the big boys league playing the super critical “3″…. Marvin would look good in the WNBA league….MVP Candidate! Watch how Paul P operates from the “3″ tonight.A thing of beauty!.Marvin can only dream of playing like that night in and night out…..LD needs to bench this bust…
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
5:24 pm
“News Flash” Hawks down by 20 pts with 6 minutes left on the clock in the second quarter!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
5:27 pm
The ONLY way we win tonight is by PUSHING THE TEMPO. Teague needs 2nd qtr minutes
RUN THE BASKETBALL.
We do not have the personnel offensively to win, but we need to PUSH the ball and CERTAIN GUYS NEED TO STEP UP
Gator
December 16th, 2010
5:37 pm
It was not a bad pick – Billy Knight
terrell
December 16th, 2010
5:46 pm
I’ll be shocked if Boston still has it’s starters on the floor at the beginning of the 4th qtr.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
5:47 pm
HELICOPTER NO we can’t do it without JJ and Jamal
Celtics have too much heart for that. KG, Pierce & Allen will get it done.
I love the Hawks but we gotta be realistic here
terrell
December 16th, 2010
5:47 pm
But you never know with the Hawks.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
5:49 pm
Nate Robinson is the perennial Hawks killer. Playing against us for him is like Jordan at MSG. Nate bout to drop 25
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
5:50 pm
@Gator
“It was not a bad pick – Billy Knight”
LOL!
terrell
December 16th, 2010
6:02 pm
Marvin bout to drop 40. lol!
Michael Cunningham
December 16th, 2010
6:10 pm
@JeJe: “Shaq says he’s out. Even if Shaq plays, L.D. said plans to send out the big lineup with Twin at center. MC, what does this mean? Does this mean we are playing a big lineup regardless? I still don’t get why we didn’t use the big lineup in Atlanta.”
yes, that’s what it means.
Michael Cunningham
December 16th, 2010
6:11 pm
Blog updates with Rondo out for “weeks,” according to Danny Ainge.
Michael Cunningham
December 16th, 2010
6:11 pm
Blog updates with Rondo out for “weeks,” according to Danny Ainge.
Michael Cunningham
December 16th, 2010
6:13 pm
@Daniel: “MC, Why doesn’t LD give Teague more consistent burn, especially against teams with quick PGs? Bibby can’t guard quick PGs to save his life. Plus putting Jamal at the point makes no sense whatsoever. All he does is look for his own shot. Do you think LD is feeling the same pressure Woody did and is only looking to win today with no regard for the future?”
i plan to blog on this soon. basically, in L.D.’s view, Teague hasn’t developed enough offensively to trust him with more minutes.
Michael Cunningham
December 16th, 2010
6:15 pm
@J from the A: “Does the pick and pop only work well against the C’s when the player doing the popping also can legitimately go hard to the rack on a pick and roll? If that is the case, that may be the difference between Al and the Hawks being successful at pick and roll/pick and popping and Amar’e and the Knicks being successful at it.”
good point.
The Truth
December 16th, 2010
6:33 pm
Thoughts for Today:
Reflecting back on drafting JC2 with both JJ and Jamal out with injuries illustrates that a team can never have too many shooters
Speaking of injuries, was Jamal injury physically-inflicted or ego-inflicted due to his recent shooting slump?
Since Marvin underperformance and disappointments are all but unanimous in Hawksville; it begs the question why hasn’t the team called him out in a team meeting. If they haven’t already, the team should hold a special meeting specifically to call Marvin out. I can’t believe his inconsistency has gone under the radar for so long without at least a whisper amongst the team members. Marvin is a starter playing as if he’s still searching for a role on this team after 5 seasons. Marvin seems to be loafing on way too many occasions. If he shows up against Boston which I hope he will, his inconsistencies will remain a question.
Finally, don’t you get the sense that the Hawks is getting ready to turn the corner for the worse? With an unfavorable schedule forthcoming and some eastern teams surging, the absence of JJ (and others) could finally show. Even when JJ returns, he will need time to return to form. Consequently, LD obvious misstep has been not to engage JC2 in previous games. Now, out of the blue, he may call on JC2 to play big against the 2nd best team in the league. Is this mission impossible after being frozen on the bench? We shall see
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
6:37 pm
slimjr
yeah PP is a good SF..Marvin could easily put up those numbers if the offense ran thru him…Like i said to big,strong and skilled to be held down any more..just ask the Gm for the Bucks who almost took him over Bogut….if Marvin took as many shots as Josh he would easily average 20 ppg….I hate that Marvin came to this weak a#$ franchise…hell, most of you really think Al is a center..i want the hawks to trade him just so he could blossom and you would understand what im saying about JJ…that he is the problem…
gator
If knight would have hired the right coach we would all be looking at banners at Philips..Woodson was terrible..drew is better offensily but he still refuses to play a center…
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
6:37 pm
no point in watching this
lewis
December 16th, 2010
6:37 pm
hawks fans want jordan crawford to be the second coming of d-wade
The Truth
December 16th, 2010
6:38 pm
*a team can never have too many scorers
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 16th, 2010
6:45 pm
IS IT ME OR DOES IT SEEM LIKE EVERYTIME THE HAWKS PLAY, SOMEBODY ON THE OPPOSING TEAM HAS A CAREER NIGHT…LETS SEE..GLEN DAVIS WILL SUPRISING SCORE ABOUT 25 PTS AND GRAB 8 REBOUNDS AS THE CELTICS WILL BEAT THE HAWKS…HOPEFULLY IM WRONG, BUT I PREDICTED THEIR LOSS IN DETROIT AS WELL…ANYWAYS, GO HAWKS !!! PROVE ME WRONG FOR CRYING OUT LOUD !!!
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 16th, 2010
6:47 pm
OH YEAH WHY IS KEVIN LOVE PUTTING UP BETTER STATS THAN HORFORD ?? AL HORFORD ISNT BEING UTILIZED THE RIGHT WAY…..I WANTED TO AVOID SAYING THIS BUT I GIVE UP….FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD FIRE LD !!!!
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 16th, 2010
6:48 pm
ONE MORE TIME TO MAKE MYSELF CLEAR….FIRE LARRY DREW !!!
ATL RAISED INDY LIVING
December 16th, 2010
6:51 pm
FORGIVE ME FOR TAKING UP SPACE..I’M TOO PASSIONATE…PREDICTION OF THE NIGHT…MARVIN WILLIAMS WILL DUNK ON SOMEONE AND THEN FALL AND SPRAIN HIS ANKLE IN THE PROCESS…THE DUCK WILL GO QUACK
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
6:55 pm
Joe and Jamal are out for the Hawks; Rondo and Shaq are out for the Celtics. The difference is that the Celtics actually have depth on their roster, whereas the Hawks try to make do with mostly scrubs off the bench.
I’ll be pleasantly surprised if the Hawks lose by less than 25.
I hope JC2 gets meaningful minutes in this one, though. No reason why Mo Evans should play the majority of the vacated minutes at SG, considering his lackluster play recently.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
6:57 pm
“But since you are Marvin’s only fan on these blogs I will give you credit for being that one lone voice kissing his huge kaboose..”
In fairness, the way Marvin walks he may have just slipped and had his lips land on Marvin’s caboose by accident.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
6:59 pm
“hawks fans want jordan crawford to be the second coming of d-wade”
I think we’ll settle for him being the second coming of Jamal Crawford.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
7:02 pm
“OH YEAH WHY IS KEVIN LOVE PUTTING UP BETTER STATS THAN HORFORD ??”
Good players on bad teams regularly put up bigger numbers than they would on good teams, because those teams don’t have other options available. Love is putting up bigger scoring averages than Horford, but he also takes way more shots and converts them at a much less efficient rate.
northcyde
December 16th, 2010
7:07 pm
With both Rondo and Shaq out, this becomes a more even game, even if we don’t have our two top guns JJ and Jamal.
Marvin will be forced to be part of the action tonight, unless Smith or Horford decide that they must take 20 shots apiece ( which I don’t think should happen ).
I see a 5 – 13 FG . . 3 – 4 FT . . 1 – 3 3FG game out of Marvin tonight. So that’s 14 pts.
Remember folks. Marvin was never completely useless, until Flip and then Jamal came in and took shots and minutes away from him.
I doubt very seriously if Drew is going to play Jordan or Teague extended minutes tonight. Teague may play 15+ minutes, but Jordan may not see more than 10 minutes, unless he’s on fire from the get-go.
The man tonight has to be Mike Bibby. He has to be the shotmaker. If he outplays Nate, we’ll have a good shot to win this game, according to hoopsstats.com
When Bibby plays 25+ minutes in a game, he has posted better efficiency numbers than the opposing PG on 9 occasions.
Our record in those 9 games . . . . 8 – 1
Use that same parameter for Marvin, and he has only outplayed the opposing SF 4 times.
But we’ve won all 4 games.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
7:12 pm
I am VERY eager to see how our offense looks without Joe and Jamal. That would make it appear that ball movement should be greater tonight, but I dont know. We’ll learn alot about Josh tonight. Without both of our top offensive players, this seems like a perfect chance for Josh to try and “do too much”
We’ll be doomed if that happens.
hawkfan
December 16th, 2010
7:13 pm
hawks just need to put on their track shoes and just run run run until they can’t run anymore and see what happens, at this point we have nothing to lose and just make as many fastbreak points as we can to leave the c’s gasping for air, i think that’s the only shot we have now
Blast
December 16th, 2010
7:19 pm
Hate the fact that this game is on TNT and Hawks so depleted. Just not looking forward to hearing Kenny Smith’s condescending tone when he talks about Hawks. Not looking forward to this game at all.
northcyde
December 16th, 2010
7:30 pm
And don’t be surprised if Zaza gets more burn than Collins in this game. This is the type of matchup I was talking about the other day conerning Collins.
He’s facing a center who is basically a garbageman, not a scorer. Collins’ strength is not grabbing rebounds. So if Boston is killing us early on the boards, Drew can’t stick with Collins. He’s either going to have to get Zaza in the game, or move Horford and Smith back to their regular positions.
And honestly, KG may be a tougher matchup tonight for Al, than that young center. Drew has to recognize quickly which matchup is more favorable for Al.
This is a good game to measure the leadership abilities of Horford and Smith. We need 10+ rebounds out of them, more than we need 20+ points. LOL . . if we can get 20+ pts and 10+ rebs, that’ll be the best outcome. But rebounds are more important than points tonight.
This will be a low scoring game, probably in the mid to high 80s. Instead of just predicting us to win or lose, I’ll say that the first team to 85 . . wins the game.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
7:31 pm
north clyde
good point about marvin..he was great the year before Jamal came here..just not enough shots to go around..i dont care who is at Sf
Ken Strickland
December 16th, 2010
7:32 pm
I don’t know if I’ve seen as many negative minded fans as I’ve seen on these blogs. The idea that the Hawks don’t have a chance to win tonight because JJ and Jamal are missing says a lot. If we play the type of DEF we’re capable of, we can definitely win this gm.
They’re weak in the middle, in transition DEF, short on their bench, and slow. Horford is good enough to neutralize, or even out perform KG. Smoove is good enough to create some serious problems for PPierce, and possibly neutralize him. I think it’ll be a wash at center, so it appears the key to us winning this gm will be how well our guards measure up to their guards.
The other key to us winning this gm will boil down to the performances of JTeague, JPowell and Zaza off the bench? With the NEGATIVE MINDED, GLASS HALF EMPTY ATTITUDES AND MENTALITIES some of you possess, I wonder why you even bother to post comments, or even watch the gm. I CERTAINLY WOULDN’T WANT SOME OF YOU AS MY TEAMMATE.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
7:34 pm
With Rondo out, we can win:
Josh = Paul Pierce
Al = KG
Ray will crush Marvin, unless Marvin learned how to post up in the NBA yesterday. He might have, you never know. Stranger things have happened.
Nate will kill Bibby, but Teague and JC2 may help.
I like our bench better. Why? Because I think JT, JC2, Wilkens, Mo’, and Powell bring alot to the table in a game like this. Maybe even ZaZa and Etan. I say we have a shot unless we get down on ourselves.
EmirS.
December 16th, 2010
7:35 pm
Gotta agree with The Truth,
Questioning LD’s take on this game as well. Jordan has rarely seen playing time…and now you want to put him under the pressure of playing against the best team in the leauge (my opinion). Jordan has “somewhat” proven to be a scorer, but without having seen minutes since late November, can we honestly ask him to step up?
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
7:37 pm
Pray!
Prayer Works. I pray the Hawks show up and compete. Leave that defeatist attitude at home. We should see a heavy dose of Jordan and Teague tonight and I hope they come to play and be prepared to win.
David & Goliath
Dragon Slayers
Gnats and Flies
Small Ball
Run the Elephant out of the gym
All the cliche’s we can think of has to be our game plan tonight. Let Teague run straight to the cup and drop it in or pass it to the wings. Tell Josh to run the lanes and not try to play PG tonight. We need him playing INSIDE with Al all night long. We can win this game, but not in a half court set. Swarm to the ball on defense like gnats and flies on an elephant’s azz.
Let’s Go Hawks!
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
7:44 pm
ATL fans, we also need to understand that signing Damien Wilkens was a very significant move. I was not one of the “we need 1 more wing” bloggers over the summer. I am now converted. We def. needed 1 more experience wing who was a very good defensive presence. We got one in Damien.
If we had a better backup C than ZaZa, say Dampier or Shaq, and a quicker PG than Bibby, I would say look out! EC Finals or better a possibly. But we still don’t have those 2 missing pieces.
But if ZaZa or somebody big catches fire off the bench, and Teague develops, again I say “Watch out, the Hawks are coming!”
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
7:46 pm
Excuse all of the misspellings in the last post by me.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
7:57 pm
I am almost ready to start hating on Bibby like I do Marvin
Unfortunately, hitting contested shots does not happen in the Playoffs. Bibby may hit shots at a high percentage, but they are pretty much all contested or close to being so. Even if they were wide open, he will not do this in the playoffs. It’s time he got in shape and actually got into the lane or played some semblance of DEFENSE.
I still have not received an explanation on how exactly he uses his body size to his advantage. He can’t post up players and has no speed at all
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
8:01 pm
Speed Kills!
Speed Ball tonight, limit turnovers. I would like to see Teague play fast like John Wall, Ishmael Smith and Steve Nash. He has the jets and play selfish going to the cup to get us going. JC2 is fast too.
Let’s Run them old legs tired tonight. Run like Golden State did with Captain Jack. We can win this..but, the Hawks have to believe it.
I’m on board tonight for a win!
Blast
December 16th, 2010
8:04 pm
I really want to see how the refs call this game. Watch them burn Hawks with no calls as usual.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:06 pm
LOL Marvin is probably pissing his shorts having someone like Ray Allen guard him. He knows that all the pressure is on him now, but he will still be invisible tonight
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:07 pm
lol @ bibby outdoing anyone at anything
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:10 pm
jamal how do are u 6′5 180? son thats some durant shi
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm
Bibby is almost just as bad as Marvin.
Marvin has a good game 2 out of 10 times and plays okay defense. Bibby only makes shots (he can’t make jack against rough defenses). He CANNOT get past his man OR guard his man
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm
lol @ Charles Barkley
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:12 pm
already making fun of josh screw tnt
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:13 pm
what stat did they say about Josh..?
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm
ONly the white guy was hating on Josh….Charles Barkley and Kenny Smith believe
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm
3pt %. Why does TNT hate on us so much? TNT is right next to Philips Arena
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm
Come on the Hawks haven’t shown that they deserve respect.
Of course they’re gonna get clowned
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm
that he’s 9th and the league in 3 pt,
and ernie and charles were like, “i hope he dont start playin like he believe that stat”
and kenny was all his usual smart as self, “how can he not, its a stat”
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:14 pm
#9 3pt shooter in the league right now is Josh Smith @bigdave
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:15 pm
I think we play hard for 3.5 quarters and then commit turnovers. Moral victory?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:15 pm
josh 9th in the lead in 3 pointers
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm
lol@jeje
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm
We need to trade Bibby + Marvin for Monta Ellis and start Damien @ the 3
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:16 pm
I think they hate the Hawks becuz they think theres alotta wasted talent on the team and they don’t show heart. Which is true.
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
marvin about to embarass
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
MARVIN. yes
DO THAT EVERY TIME NO HOMO
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
Marvin????? WTF scoring?
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
Bigdave, where ya at?
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
8:17 pm
marvin great post up..wow!!!
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm
marvin reads this blog too prolly
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm
MARVIN. WHY CAN U NOT DO THIS EVERY DAMN GAME
ATTACK THE BASKET
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm
Oh so Marvin wants to play now lol
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:18 pm
Marvin Williams??????????? *in a high shrill voice*
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:19 pm
ATTACK THE BASKET AND PLAY UPTEMPO AND WE WIN THIS GAME
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:19 pm
I just turned on the game. How come the game started this late? Wasn’t it supposed to be an 8 PM start? Did they go to the studio show before the game or something?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
POST UP MARVIN
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
The Celtics crowd sounds unusually quiet on the TV broadcast.
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
Wat happened to the Motion Offense??????????????????
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
lmao I wonder whats collins 40 speed
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
Smoove’s post moves are horrible
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:20 pm
tnt games always start at 8:15
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm
extra time for charles to blabber and commercials
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm
“He’s the engine that stirs the drink”… where’s the Department of Unintended Irony when you need it?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm
games never start at exactly 8
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:21 pm
Marvin needs to get position in the post. screw posting up smoove for now
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
I was looking forward to Jeff Van Gundy rather than Steve Kerr and Al Michaels
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
DUCK
YES
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
So MArvin wants to play good now
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
Marvin Williams??????????????
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
I think it’s funny how the Celtics fans still boo Bibby for that obvious stunt he pulled during the 2008 first round series. Kinda reminds me of how Section 303 is going to run into Joe Johnson in like 25 years and boo him.
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:22 pm
how was marvins shot a 2
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
white man can jump
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
No way. JVG Blows
You want Hubie and Fratello. These guys know the team damn well
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
This game is over. Boston decided not to come to play. The Hawks will own them.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
ERden bout to make the All Star game off the Hawks
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
When Pierce got that steal….instead of hustling back immediately…Josh Smith took a second or two with kind of “Awww Man!!!” frustrated body language.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
When Pierce got that steal….instead of hustling back immediately…Josh Smith took a second or two with kind of “Awww Man!!!” frustrated body language.
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
Jeff Van Gundy is with ESPN man
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
WTF JOSH. ATTACK THE HOOP IDIOT
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
Here we go with Josh chucking 3s
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:23 pm
Marvin has looked surprisingly not dead so far in this game. Rest of the team doesn’t look so hot.
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:24 pm
Is Josh SCARED of driving?
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:24 pm
Jason Collins is getting muscled by Erden
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:24 pm
horfords playin him strongh es just hittin
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:24 pm
somebody tell josh to realx
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
Horf needs to drive the ball and not just settle
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
Wtf? Josh just stands at the 3 pt line. LD wants him to POST up.
GOD DAMNIT JOSH
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
we hustling at least
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:25 pm
JOSH IS DUMB
Im sorry
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
omgggg josh needs to be bench
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
Good start Marv
LionHearted(FormerlySteel)
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
Josh ruins the flow of the offense with his terrible shot selection
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
Put in a lineup of Bibby (playing well), Damien, Marvin, Powell, and Horford when Erden goes out
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
everybody needs to start driving the ball to the lane no more jump shots
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
Marvin Williams about to break out??? HOw about we do this at the beginning of every game…just so he gets involved….feed Marvin
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:26 pm
josh trying to prove he can shoot to national tv when he needs to just relax and take shots only when he needs too
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
It’s not even Josh’s shot selection that annoys me. HE STANDS AT THE 3 PT LINE the ENTIRE time
LionHearted(A.K.A.Steel)
December 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
I hope someone agrees with me
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
i told everybody…with the two quick shot brothers out, you will see why marvin was compared to James Worthy out of college!!!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
I feel Marvin can be this aggressive even if Joe and Jamal are healthy.
ATTACK THE HOOP AND HIT OPEN SHOTS
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:27 pm
Like I said earlier…lets just hope Josh doesnt try to do too much
LionHearted(A.K.A.Steel)
December 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
Josh Powell has better shot selection than JS
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
@it was not a bad pick
If Marvin gets 30 on a good percentage and the Hawks win he should be MVP
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
MARVIN SHOW US SOMETHING YOUNG FELLA!!!
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
Hawks need to drive to the rim EVERY time down.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:28 pm
it was not a bad pick,
The guy has solid games every now and then, but there’s no CONSISTENCY. Marvin seems to play well vs. CHA (tomorrow night), but he may just go invisible tomorrow night
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:29 pm
We need Teague to play damn well tonight. Drive to the basket, lockdown D. Everyone needs to play his A game tonight
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
wtf is josh doing…dunk the ball
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
WTF? Josh had a fast break on Nate and slows down.
Why are we not converting these fast breaks?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
Bibby and Al need to start knocking down their open shots if the Hawks are going to take this game.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
Oh my, an early Teague sighting…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
Josh has not made 1 good play tonight so far
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:30 pm
marvin play well so we can trade u
dap01
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
Why don’t TNT hire professionals to call the game? The announcers are giving no respect to ATL and they are practically licking the jocks of Boston.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
Another horrible post attempt from Smoove
LionHearted(A.K.A.Steel)
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
Josh has been terrible lately
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
How the hell does Teague leave him that wide open? Watch Nate start to run hsi mouth just like every PG does against Teague
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
get em al
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
lmao nate lil ass
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:31 pm
lmao BAWSE was bout to squash that midget
LionHearted(A.K.A.Steel)
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
Drop Nate
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
LOL @ that call
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
wow a tech?
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
How come Nate didnt get a Tech
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
smh turnovers
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:32 pm
ZaZa should play well tonight. I think he enjoys playing Boston.
I’d like to see some hard fouls. Drop these pricks to the ground
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
How did Powell missed that pass
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
JOSH STOP GAMBLING ON EVERY PLAY.
Take Josh out of the damn game. He isn’t doing !@#$ out there
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
lol@TNT
“Nate isnt afraid to back down from anyone”
It looked more like Nate was poppin off and Al just said somethin in retaliation.
They acted like Al was the big bad bully and Nate was just so bravely standing up to him.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:33 pm
I like Smith’s activity
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
Where’s JC2?
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
There you go Teague…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
We don’t have much offensive power in the game. Nice play JT0
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
Melvin..
im in da building.. on the htc touch pro 2 tonight..
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:34 pm
I like the deflections on defense…good job Hawks
lewis
December 16th, 2010
8:35 pm
pachulia blocked again worst player ont he hawks
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:35 pm
Celts have no backup PG. We need to DRIVE THE BALL AND PUSH THE TEMPO
LionHearted(A.K.A.Steel)
December 16th, 2010
8:35 pm
Teague is afraid of the ghost of Woody LOL
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
LOL lewis.
ZaZa cares more about drawing contact than making the shot. It’s not like a Reggie Miller play where he jumps into player and catches the foul. He has point blank layups
I wish we had someone to work with him other than Tyrone Freaking Hill
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:36 pm
Jeff Teague is afraid of haunted houses.
He does look like an 8 year old, so it’s not all that surprising I guess.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:37 pm
The Celts will start to feel really tired from last night around the 7 min of the 3rd. We just need to keep pushing the tempo. Teague is the ideal guard to do that (if he could add a 3pt shot he’d be similar to Jet Terry)
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
8:38 pm
Lionhearted,
Drop the A.K.A so we can read your posts.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
Got Teague and Damien out there.
GREAT PLAY TEAGUE
Let’s see some defense
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
Teague has looked really good so far.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
that boy got up!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
Damn Teague
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
Avery Bradley??? I thought he was overseas somewhere…looks like he should be overseas
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:39 pm
Give Teague more playing time LD
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
ooooooooooooooooh teague
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
TEAGUE WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
It’s the Jeff Teague show
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
Thy really have Luke Harangody??
yeah let’s go TEague
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
TEAGUE
YES
ATTACK THE BASKET.
ENERGY
THESE GUYS ARE TIRED
ATTACK THE DAMN HOOP
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
JEFF TEAGUE!
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:40 pm
wow teague got sum puccy last night
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
Teague-er! that was nasty!
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
Teague…this is what we envisioned
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
Teague?!?!
-REEspect Roe!!!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
LOL @ JJM
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:41 pm
LOL @ J Smoove saying Teague needs to be aggressive. WTF has Smoove done?
We need to play guys 40+ min tonight. We gotta assume we’ll beat that horrendous Charlotte team at home
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
Celts have a weak lineup in. We gotta take advantage
Blast
December 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
That’s how you earn playing time and the coaches trust, Teague! Keep it up!
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:42 pm
What’s one of the Ying Yang Twins doin playin for BOS
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
bench killing us
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
Use this lineup in the 2nd qtr:
Teague Damien Marvin Powell ZaZa
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
Powell has hands like bricks….
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
Josh needs to shutup if he said that. He’s the one who refuses to drive.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
We need to get the ball inside. Shots are not falling
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
We need better play from the backup PF position….Powell throwing up bricks and has butter fingers…Luke friggin Harangody was guarding you…. SMDH
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
8:43 pm
What a lineup! Any bets on who gets stripped more tonight?
So far Powell has 3.
Brandon
December 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
Al Horford got screwed on those foul calls. He didn’t even touch Erden on that first dunk. That foul should have been on Collins. Also, it’s not his fault that KG is too weak to try and box Horford out down low. Also, technical foul was total BS. If the refs were going to call a tech for that, it should have been a double technical. I just hope that L.D. doesn’t sit Horford for the entire second quarter. That could really hurt the team.
Blast
December 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
At least, Hawks are not getting blown out early.
Boston is not playing as pristine as they did in the Atl. Maybe Atlanta has a chance in this game.
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
i like Jeff being agressive..
i guess no Joe + no Jamal = Jeff
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:44 pm
LionHearted,
MC’s tweet said that
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:45 pm
I feel sorry for that poor guy Teague abused. His confidence must be lower than Teague’s with Woody.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:45 pm
In a way this game has started off exactly opposite of the Detroit game, in which Bibby, Smoove, and Al did everything and nobody else did anything. Those three have done very little in this game so far, while usually invisible players have stepped up.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
Jeff Teague and Marvin are carrying us offensively….
Horford out for probably the 2nd quarter….and Josh not really aggressive enough on offense
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
Najeh,
Maybe that’s just what we need.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
Atlanta: M. Williams 8 Pts, 4 Reb
thats like an entire game worth of stats already for the Platypus.
cp
December 16th, 2010
8:46 pm
Good first quarter. Marvin was playing well and Teague is looking like the guy many of us wanted to see.. But wtf is up with Josh Powell and his shot selection smh
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:47 pm
WTF @ Marquis getting all these shots
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:48 pm
man….BOS has so many scrubs in…we have to win this lol
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:48 pm
Teague is playing good
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:48 pm
Why is Teague rebounding and Josh Powell leading the break???? craziness
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:48 pm
How did Powell only get a veteran’s minimum contract? I’m sure teams offered him more than that
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:49 pm
Even Zaza is contributing positively in this one.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:49 pm
Mo look like he took six steps on that layup
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:49 pm
Zaza is so bad that people dont know how to play him
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:49 pm
This game is a good fit for Z. IDK why he can’t play this solidly usually.
If he and Marvin and Teague played with this energy every night, we’d be an elite team. Drew needs to fire the team up every night / we need more players-only meetings
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
TEAGUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Teague is ballin mane
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
This might be the best game Teague has played in his career.
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Jeff Teague BALLLLLLLLLLLIN
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Teague….
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Did he say Henry Bibby lol
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
JEFF TEAGUE
LOOKING LIKE DERRICK MOTHERF’ING ROSE RIGHT NOW
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
let’s go Teague!!!!! This is what we have been waiting for
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Did Marv Albert just call Mike Bibby “Henry Bibby”?
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Teague has some dog tonight.
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Let that boy cook!
-REEturn of Roe!!!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
Boy!!! Is Teague beasting or what?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:50 pm
CELTS LOOK DISORIENTED
PUT THESE GUYS AWAY
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
look @ Jeffery! lol
cp
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Damn Teague where has this been
Bailey
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Wow. I’m am really loving teague’s performance tonight. He’s really playing aggressively and with confidence. This is what I’ve been hoping for from him. With the physical ability that he has, he could definitely do these sorts of thins on a consistent basis.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Jeff Teague is a primetime player…if they on National TV he is shining
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
How has Teague not beaten Bibby for the starting job?
And why the hell do these announcers keep mentioning the Teague injury. That was 2 freaking months ago
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Josh Powell thinks he’s Tim Duncan.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
JEFF TEAGUE!
YES
YES
YES
YES
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
JT
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Jeff Teague is having a coming out party on TNT
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Teague… holy sh-t. This guy is playing like an All Star. Where the HELL has this been?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
lET HIM PLAY THE WHOLE QUARTER
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Easily his best game…
Blast
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Teague is putting up a major show tonite!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
zaza bad defense
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Damien Wilkins is looking nice too.
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
lol @ the producers unloading all Jeff Teague material
Blast
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Damien was fouled on that play.
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
I like this team better than Joe and the gang
I.MUS WRITE
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
Well Dam!!!!!! Who is this guy Jeff teague lol….WTF and he just dunked his 3rd basket……….Way to step up yung’n-I think he’s been reading my posts.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:52 pm
LOL
Damien ZaZa Teague
These guys are playing damn well now. Hopefully Duck can follow
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
8:53 pm
I’ve never seen Teague play this well. EVER
-REEluctantly Roe!!!
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
8:53 pm
The kid’s stones finally dropped…
He has nobody to defer to tonight…
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:53 pm
Damien will be tough once he find his shot and rhythm on offense…
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:54 pm
Ladies and Gentlemen…….TEAGUE has arrived….this is what Larry Drew envisioned…leave him in the whole game
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:54 pm
Maybe this is one of those games Bibby comes in with 8 minutes left and hits dagger shots all along like northcyde was implying
This would be a damn big win for this franchise. Van Exel needs to fire up Teague every night!!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:55 pm
Teague def has fresh legs from all those DNP-CDs.
He needs to stay HUNGRY and play ANGRY. I hope Nate starts talking smack which will only piss off Teague more
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:55 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
8:51 pm
Josh Powell thinks he’s Tim Duncan.
……………
LOL.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:55 pm
Keep pushing the pace and the Celtics will put up the white towel especially on a back to back game and they are known to have a let down games at home…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:56 pm
COME ON BOX OUT HARANGODY. THE GUY IS GETTING EVERYTHING
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:56 pm
The Celtics have so many characters on their team….exciting to watch
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:57 pm
I bet in a game like this, Woody would not play Teague in the 2nd half LOL
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:57 pm
Powell needs to do a better job on guarding on Harangody
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
8:57 pm
they should have kept that circus music playin for whatever Zaza just did
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
8:58 pm
Josh Powell grab the motherfriggin ball…wtf is wrong with your hands tonight???
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:59 pm
Powell not playing well. Prob getting too many minutes.
Need a basket here
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
8:59 pm
JC2 is in the game….
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
8:59 pm
Zaza Pachulia is turrrrible.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
8:59 pm
wtf why take out Damien?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
8:59 pm
lmaoooo hawks think they slick…jamal hurt all of a sudden jordan crawford is not wearing a suit on the bench
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
9:00 pm
Is it me or does Jordan Crawford have a hunchback? Serious question folks
-REEpeat Roe!!!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:00 pm
Nice FT Marvin!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
These are not high quality shots
DAMNIT
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
drive the balllll
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
FLAGRANT
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
dont get rocky crunk out there…..
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
Flagrant
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
Punch Big Baby
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:01 pm
lmao @ zaza
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
He grabbed Zaza along the neck! This is a technical foul!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
Big Baby did that same foul to Marvin last year
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
LOL at ZaZa with the acting job…
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
That’s all Zaza’s good for…
Pi$$$$$$$$$$$$in off the Celtics…
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
And the Emmy goes to Zaza! Nice non-flagrant flagrant
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:02 pm
Nice sell by Zaza
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:03 pm
Punch the whole Celtic team
Nate Pierce Garnett Big Baby
Does anyone outside of Boston actually like these guys? The All Star voting results have to be rigged
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:03 pm
ZaZa always has an extra gear against the Celtics
I should change my name to Captain Obvious
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:03 pm
How the hell did ZaZa act there? Big Baby flagrantly fouled him and ZaZa was PUSHING him off so nothing escalated further
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
9:04 pm
Y’all noticed how KG played peacemaker this time. He warned Big Bayou of the impending doom awaiting him if he continued to tussle with ZaZa
-REEvealatory Roe!!!
Fresh
December 16th, 2010
9:04 pm
If the Hawks played with this type of fire on a nightly basis, this could really be a great team.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:04 pm
But lost in the flagrant is the best offensive move I’ve ever seen Zaza make. Great spin move.
Who-da thunk it?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:05 pm
has josh scored?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:05 pm
LOL Celtics haven’t booed Bib or ZaZa that badly.
Fresh, that’s what I’m saying. We need a players-only meeting before every game. That’s how this team gets fired up usually
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:05 pm
They have to continue to attack the basket. I dont like those two jumpers from Marvin.. Go hard in the paint
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:06 pm
I’d like to see Damien back in there
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:06 pm
That’s what happens when the NBA allows refs to call games in favor of one team or the other. The team that is getting all these calls at home will start getting increasingly snooty, bold, thinking they can do whatever and get away with it because we are home and refs are on our side.
That’s why Glenn Davis tried so hard to choke Zaza.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:06 pm
2 foul rule for Al again tonight.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:06 pm
Why not put Teague and Damien in?
Teague needs more minutes than that
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
Yea Jordan
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
JC2 on the board! (after an awful turnover)
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
LOL @ Jo-Craw. Had 2 players open under basket, but nails 3 anyway
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
Ice water in Crawford veins…
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
come on Bibby
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:07 pm
2 foul rule for Al works here. Sit him the rest of the half and let him play the whole 2nd
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:08 pm
Josh not hustling for the loose ball actually worked in the Hawks favor…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:08 pm
Bibby isn’t doing anything. Put TEAGUE or DAMIEN back in
WHAT HAPPENED TO POSTING UP MARVIN
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:08 pm
Duncan
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:08 pm
Smoove is doing a good job banging with KG in this game.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
WTF was that Marvin?
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
Marvin should have kneed Big Baby in da face
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
I’ll take the aggressiveness
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
@Najeh PAUSE
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
JC2… And why is Bibby back in the game
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:09 pm
Solid 20 second timeout.
Let’s get a few good plays in, take a 5+ pt lead into half, and have Horf ready for a big 2nd half
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:10 pm
Josh Smith is doing too much crying this game….he needs to play his game and quit whining
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:10 pm
Horf and Z should be at the 4 and 5 at the end of the game
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:10 pm
Marvin should have drop the People’s Elbow in Big Baby chest on the landing. Send him a message not to take anymore charges…
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:11 pm
Hawks are WINNING with Bibby, Al and Josh combining for 4 whole points.
Now THAT’s amazing
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:12 pm
Sautee,
I still think we are going to need more from all three in the 2nd half in order to win this game…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:13 pm
Josh is the one player on our team who has done nothing
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:13 pm
lol refs hate josh
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:13 pm
WHY IS EVANS IN OVER DAMIEN
DAMIEN MADE A FEW PLAYS EARLIER THAT MO COULDNT
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
WHY IS EVANS IN THE GAME
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
Where is Al?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
wtf mo evans
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
Mo Evans is a bum
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
JOSH SMITH
GARBAGE
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
Josh has sucked
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
wild shot by Josh
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
PUT IN DAMIEN AND ZAZA
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:14 pm
josh has been good on defense but offense sucks
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:15 pm
The Hawks can win this game – Celts are gassed – but Josh is whining like I thought he would. We’ve played 11 guys in the first half – I like our bench in this situation!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:15 pm
Wasted possessions
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:15 pm
When is the last time Josh had a good game against a good team?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
turnover leads to points
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
Crawford has been garbage
Looks like he’s pissing his pants out there
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
“@Najeh PAUSE”
LMAO my bad, I’ll remember to say “no homo” next time.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
where is marvin. why can we not get him in and let him post up allen
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:16 pm
Josh needs to sit
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
lmao the ref hate josh wow
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
Celtics closing out the half…that’s what champions do
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
Now that was a charge on Pierce
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
just FALLING apart smh
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
Meltdown again
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
why isnt al even in the game…and yes i would sit josh
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
That’s FOUR for Powell.
Awful last two minutes.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:17 pm
This 2nd quarter is on LD.
Absolutely horrendous lineup choices
You’re gonna put in Jo-Craw and leave him in over DAMIEN?
Where the hell are Teague and ZaZa?
WTF is Josh doing out there?
Ree Roe
December 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
So long to the lead, we hardly knew ye
-REEgretablly Roe!!
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
Josh has been fine defensively but offensively he has been terrible. And wtf is up with LD’s lineup.. Why is Mo and Bibby in? Where the hell is Damien and Teague smh at LD
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
Josh Powell wtf is wrong with your hands??? Catch the ball thats the 4th bobble….
Why is Mo Evans in the game??/
Dance with who brought you there….Teague, Marvin, and Damien should be in…Josh SMith out
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
Jo-Craw has no reason to be in there
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:18 pm
Melvin,
Not to mention the push offs. Every time down.
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:19 pm
The reason Josh gets no calls is becuz he whines to much so they cant stand him. I can’t blame em.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:19 pm
Smoove has been off offensively all game, but defensively he’s been pretty good. In fact I’d say he’s been better than usual playing man to man defense.
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:19 pm
josh needs to stop crying and dunk on somebody..he acts like hes old and doesnt have it in his legs anymore
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:19 pm
Have Teague Damien Marvin ZaZa and Powell out there those last 5 minuets and we’d actually be up.
Horrendous lineup choices
how do you take out Teague after what he did?
Jo-Craw? Let Jo-Craw play against Charlotte – not Boston
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
December 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
Okay. LDis crazy for taking out Teague for Bibby who was off and giving us nothing. That was the beginning of the Celtic run.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
Turrible shot selection by Josh. Had to say it before Chuck does.
dap01
December 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
The NBA refs SUCK!
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
Josh Smith needs to sit on the bench…I do not like his attitude this game…he’s really stinking it up
Josh Powell should also be on the bench….
let Zaza and Al Horford man the blocks….Teague, Marvin and Damien….and lets get it
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
9:20 pm
NOW do yall See why you don’t put Rookies in BIG Games on winning teams?
JC2 with two turnovers evaporates the lead to close out the half!
He comes in and Boston goes on a 10 – 2 run!
Play, Bibby at that 2 and let Teague run the point. Tell JC2 – Don’t Pass it! Shoot it!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:21 pm
What’s up with Powell’s butter fingers?
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:21 pm
I know LD’s 2 foul policy – but it put Wilkens, Al, and Marvin on the bench the last few minutes of the half. Playing Mo, Jordan, and Powell, were fortunate to only be down by 1.
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:21 pm
I haven’t liked LD’s sub patterns all year and this is yet another game where he had guys out there that should have been sitting on the bench. Teague and Damien should have been in the game. Mo is garbage and Powell has hands like bricks.. Bibby came in and they started to attack him off the dribble. WTF LD
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:21 pm
Jo-Craw looked terrified out there. Do not play him in the 2nd half.
Horford needs to beast
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:21 pm
lmaooooo@sautee thats how charkes be saying it too
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:22 pm
I said before the game Josh’s whining was 1 of the keys to this game – what a crybaby!
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
December 16th, 2010
9:22 pm
JeJe, I totally agree with you on JCraw being in this game. LD’s substitution patterns is a huge antecedent for their sporadic, unpredictable play.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:22 pm
My only big beef with LD’s lineup decisions is the fact that Mo has played more than Damien. The Damien/Mo split should be like 4 to 1 in Damien’s favor.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:23 pm
Hawks outplayed the Celtics for 22 of the 24 mins in the 1st half but the Celtics has a 2pt lead.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:23 pm
We still got this game if Josh quits whining, and LD keeps Al, Wilkins, Marvin and Teague consistently in the game in the 2nd half.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:24 pm
TNT ridin Nate Robinson’s ****……lets see if they even mention Jeff Teague at all
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:24 pm
Man, you guys are hilarious.
JC2 hasn’t played in how many games?
Now, Jamal goes down, and you turn to this kid in hopes that he lights it up.
He made rookie mistakes. But how many people bashed Woody for pulling rookies ASAP after mistakes?
He made mistakes. Let him play through it. How many of yall really saw the Hawks beating the C’s minus JJ + Jamal?
JC2 didn’t spark that C’s run.
Also, where are J.Smith and Mike Bibby? Your vets aren’t getting it done.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:25 pm
Najeh – that has to do with LD’s 2 foul policy in the 1st half of games. 2 fouls and your out of the game.
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
9:25 pm
Hopefully this team starts the second half how they started the game, give Marvin the ball let him create some offense for himself with the mis-match on Allen and let them double him on the wing or block and kick it out or hit the cutter then in transition RUN, hopefully Teague starts the second half also.
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:25 pm
Barkley…”You’ve gotta play this kid…”
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:25 pm
Teague needs to get minutes in the 2nd half. He was pulled too early
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:26 pm
Listening to Kenny on TNT talking about Josh Powell, you get the idea he doesn’t watch a lot of Hawks basketball.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:26 pm
Al, Marvin, and Damien – 2 fouls and they were out of the game.
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
9:26 pm
You guys are pressuring Jordan too much, he had two turnovers in a BIG game, but he also almost knocked down all 3 of his looks they were in-and-out give the kid a break…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:26 pm
LOL @ Barkley thinking Woody should still be coach
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:27 pm
Of course, Barkley says the Hawks “gotta play” Teague, and in the same sentence says they shouldn’t have fired Woody.
EmirS.
December 16th, 2010
9:27 pm
Josh needs to go on the inside. Davis and KG can not guard him on the inside…why is he settling for jump shots. It dumbass moves like that, that makes me furious as hell. If your jumper is going then alright, but it’s not take it the hell inside!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:27 pm
Using the 2 foul rule on THREE players? Wow
LD better do some damn good subbing in the 2nd half
Hopefully this is like the game @MIA where Horf makes like 5 shots in a row in the 3rd qtr
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:28 pm
“Listening to Kenny on TNT talking about Josh Powell, you get the idea he doesn’t watch a lot of Hawks basketball.”
I got the exact same feeling. I highly doubt Kenny or Chuck have seen five games this year that didn’t involve the Celtics, Magic, Heat, Lakers, or Spurs.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:28 pm
Teague has the 3rd best PER of our players available tonite. I think LD plays Bibby to protect the vet from saying he needs to be traded or retire because he makes 6+mil. I don’t think it has anything to do with his lack of offensive skills like LD told MC. Teague was an offensive beast in college. Now he does need to be more aggressive, granted.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:30 pm
Well SteveW if that’s true, then let Bibby go. He is one of the 5 worst starting PGs in the NBA. Indiana (an 8 seed at best) has TWO point guards better than Bibby. So does Houston
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:30 pm
I think LD plays Bibby, to clarify my last post, so people won’t call for Bibby to be traded or retire here at the end of his career. I don’t think it has to do with JT not having an offensive game or anything. I think it is one vet PG (LD) protecting another.
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:31 pm
The Hawks are down by a point…
Minus JJ + Jamal…
Horford’s didn’t even see the court in that 2nd quarter.
But the Hawks are down 1 at halftime.
I don’t care how bad you are on the back end of a back to back. That’s no excuse for the C’s considering they’re playing a team minus as many key peices as the Hawks went without in that 1st half.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:31 pm
We should be driving to the rim EVERY trip. KG is their only shot blocker.
Why isn’t Josh slashing instead of shooting jumpers?
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:31 pm
JeJe – According Hollinger, 6 teams have 2 PG’s better than Bibby.
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:32 pm
LD needs to play and trust Teague more, especially tonight!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:33 pm
Exactly SteveW.
Bibby even said if Teague wins the starting spot, he’d respect that.
Let the guy go if he’s unhappy. We need better PG performance than we are getting [most of the time]
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:33 pm
SteveW,
Trust Hollinger at your own risk, LOL
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:33 pm
Sautee – because LD said he could shoot jumpers unlike Woodson last year, and shooting jumpers are less physically demanding than being in the paint when your undersized like Josh.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
9:35 pm
Sautee – Co-sign on Hollinger! But in this case, he is close to being correct I’m afraid. And I like Mike Bibby, I think it’s time to put JT in and let him learn on the court, and let the whining begin about how overpaid Bibby is coming off the bench at 6+ mil per yr.
But Bibby is probably our smartest BB player.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:36 pm
What were the odds that Teague would be the leading scorer at the half and we were within a point?
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:37 pm
The 1st teague dunk is already on youtube lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdQ7m6QTEa0
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:38 pm
Bibby and Al need to knock down shots to start this half. The bench provided energy in the first half; the starters gotta start scoring. And Smoove has to get his offensive game going too, whether that involves passing or scoring.
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
9:38 pm
powell has been solid all season.. most production ive seen from a big off bench in yrs..
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:39 pm
horford with a foul already
Samuel
December 16th, 2010
9:39 pm
LD made a huge mistake taking Teague out. That was the turning point of the ballgame.
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:39 pm
LOL @ Nate lil punk
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:39 pm
cup check!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:40 pm
Uh Oh Ray Allen
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:40 pm
DAMNIT
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:40 pm
wtffff stay on rey allen
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:40 pm
How many times are they gonna fall for the same play
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:40 pm
Why is Marvin run into the pick instead of around the picker..
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
Josh is DUMB
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
pUT IN DAMIEN AND TAKE OUT SMOOVE
WTF ARE U DOING OU T THERE
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
Jordan is actually a pretty good passer
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
Where the hell is the help on these damn picks?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
bench josh please
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
Get Damien Wilkins in the game.
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
JOSH IS TERRIBLE
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
JOSH COMING OFF A SCREEN AND FIRING. U ARE NOT A JUMPSHOOTER
GOD
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:41 pm
LD WTF IS UR COACHING
HOLD THESE GUYS ACCOUNTABLE
WTF IS JOSH DOING
DOES HIS DAD CARE? I SEE HIM AT EVERY GAME
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:42 pm
I would not say Bibby is unhappy. I would say he is cool with giving up his starting role if it would make the Hawks better. Considering his advancing age, I do not think that Mike would mind giving up his starting role, especially if it makes the Hawks a better ball club.
But someone has to win that role. Who??? Jeff? Showing flashes tonite, but who else?
Hawks are losing big now.
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:42 pm
smh Josh Smith on the offensive end tonight. He just keeps hoisting up shots regardless of how bad the shot is
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:42 pm
Weren’t there people on here who said Josh WAS NOT dumb?
Ok yea sure
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
9:42 pm
Why is Collins in the game with Horford matched against KG and Marvin trying to chase Ray Allen? What value is Collins bringing to this game?
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:43 pm
LD is losing MAJOR POINTS
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:44 pm
AJ,
My question exactly.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:44 pm
LD=Lackluster Decisions
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
9:45 pm
We need Al, Josh, Damien, Marvin and Teague
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:45 pm
He called him Henry Bibby again LMAO
Hawks Fan In New Orleans
December 16th, 2010
9:45 pm
Drew!!! Play Teague. Take out HENRY Bibby, lol.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:45 pm
Great shot Marvin
Bibby getting some Techs this year lol
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
NICE…marvin and bibby
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
BIBBY
YES
good comeback
PLAY SOME D
BOX OUT
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
Let’s go…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
Big shots from Bibby and Marvin.
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
If Marvin keeps playing well, you can count Josh out… they like almost NEVER simultaneously have good games.
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
Josh is bad
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:46 pm
josh is getting fouled like crazy
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
COME ON JOSH
WE NEED U OUT THERE
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
Why are we fouling ERden??
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
refs calling everything for the celtics
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
Celtics are getting all the calls…
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
Collins ABUSED by the Turkish rookie
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
Collins ABUSED by the Turkish rookie
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:47 pm
I told ya’ll why he’s not gettin calls
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:48 pm
Wow, I didn’t know Shaq was a big white Turkish rookie. Can’t see any other explanation for that foul call.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:48 pm
I’d love to see someone on the team call out the refs after the game and get that fine
Pretty bad officiating
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:48 pm
COME ON
BOX OUT
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:49 pm
nobody blocking out smh
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:49 pm
JOSH GAMBLES ON EVERYTHING
Just take him outta there
A COMMON MAN
December 16th, 2010
9:49 pm
I’m giving ten to one odds that no one gives a crap less than me.
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:49 pm
josh keep gambling
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:50 pm
Worst game I’ve ever seen from Josh playing these kind of minutes
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:50 pm
Celts have to be tired
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
Hawks are playing really well and with a lot of enegy. They are the cream tonight so they should start pulling away over the next few minutes.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
Where the hell are the foul calls?
Al got hacked by 2 players
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
horford sucks…how you not dunk that
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
Where’s the foul. They were all over horford
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
POST UP MARVIN ON RAY ALLEN
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
I rarely EVER complain about the refs, but the Hawks have been playing 5 on 8 this entire half. This is about as blatantly biased as I’ve ever seen NBA officiating.
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
game over
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:51 pm
Put Teague back in the game…
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm
we had our chance
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm
The Hawks are getting jobbed hardcore by the lack of a whistle.
And they’re getting frustrated and losing their composure.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm
Erden going to the All Star game off us
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm
Al was mugged, no call…….. enough said.
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
9:52 pm
Those non-calls on Horford were a disgrace
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm
I guess Marvin is done for the night.
Run this lineup:
Teague Damien Mo Horford ZaZa
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm
Najeh I told ya’ll Josh’s whining pissed off the refs lol
cp
December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm
And so it begins. hawks dont get some calls and they start playing sloppy
A COMMON MAN
December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm
Is Jamal that overweight kid that played on the old Cosby show?
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:53 pm
LD need to standup for his guys and get a Tech. The C’s are getting away with thugging on defense…
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
The Hawks will be fine coming out of the timeout. THey are outplaying the Celtics tonight.
Blast
December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
Told y’all the Hawks were gonna get jobbed by the refs.
Bailey
December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
I don’t usually complain about the refs, but I have to say, the calls tonight have been very poor. Things are definitely not being called down the middle. Josh and Al are getting the short end of things every time they make aggressive moves. It’s disappointing, to say the least. Horford has yet to get a foul called in his favor and Josh has attacked the rim on several occassions and managed to only get one foul called by some miracle. On the opposite end, they are calling Horford for ticky-tac touch fouls.
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
9:54 pm
Wow, tonight just reminded me there is no team I hate more than the Celtics and their fans
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
Marvin!!!!!!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
At least we kept it close
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
Nice shots Marvin
have the Celts missed in this qtr?
lewis
December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
and thas twice they’ve called marvins 3’s twos
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
9:56 pm
Anotha foul lol
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
How the hell was that a foul on Collins?
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
THat was no foul on collins
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
Funny how the favorite whipping boys of this blog are keeping the Hawks in the game… while the beloved son is, well,…
northcyde
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
Collins with zeros across the board.
Get him out Drew.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
OMG is this team gonna miss?
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
9:57 pm
How the F*** WAS THAT A FOUL??
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
9:58 pm
I’m still tryin to figure out how the hell Ray Allen got a foul after getting his ish swatted by Collins…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:58 pm
wtf
MAKE THE FREE THROW
I hope Josh gets called out after this game
Absolutely horrendous
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
I think Collins pushed Allen outta bounds as he was off balance or s/t
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
LOL at Wilkins assuming that the tie up was a foul on him becasue of the calls this game
lewis
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
sucks that LDREW is another emotionless coach like WOODY
no ref workage at all
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
pierce walked and horford pushed on the rebound
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
GET THE REBOUND WTF
We are always in AWFUL position after the shot
BOX OUT
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
9:59 pm
My goodness. KG clearly took Al legs from under him…
bigdave
December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm
i dont see one “untested” guy on the court for celtics.. get off their nuts…
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm
We need to win the rest of the qtr.
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm
Some of yall are getting too damn worked up…
The Hawks are down 8 @ Boston.
Boston’s the best team in the league.
We’re minus Joe and Jamal.
Josh has been on a tear prior to this game. He’s having a bad game, I get it. But, really, chill.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:00 pm
LOL lewis.
Doc is always active
LD doesn’t seem to do much
Doesn’t really speak eloquently or clearly either
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
10:01 pm
KG would have to murder a nursery full of babies on live television for me to hate the Celtics more than the Heat.
Teabagger Johnson
December 16th, 2010
10:01 pm
Terribly one-sided officiating in this one . . .
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm
LOL@Najeh
Teabagger Johnson
December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm
I hate the Celtics because of their dirty play. The Heat did nothing other than spend money better than we have . . .
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:02 pm
WHY DOES NO ONE BOX OUT
WE GET NO REBOUNDS
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm
MARVIN!!!
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm
Marvin Williams actually stepped his game up tonight.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm
Why does it take so damn long for this offense to get started? It’s 12 seconds on the clock every single time
Marvin playing well
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:03 pm
Marvin is shooting it nicely tonight…
Blast
December 16th, 2010
10:04 pm
Marvin is stroking it tonight!
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:04 pm
The Hawks can’t buy a stop…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:04 pm
Celts can’t stay this hot forever
Teabagger Johnson
December 16th, 2010
10:04 pm
We’re leading in rebounds, so it is pretty hard to say that we get no rebounds . . .
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:05 pm
Great play bench.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:05 pm
We need to really dominate the first few minutes of the 4th
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:05 pm
As well as the C’s played that quarter…
The Hawks are fortunate to only be down 6.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:06 pm
We’re leading in rebounds, so it is pretty hard to say that we get no rebounds . . .
^Who cares? We didn’t rebound well in the 3rd
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:06 pm
There’s still a chance…
Marvin Williams….who woulda thunk it? Keeping us in the game…
Al Horford and Josh Smith basically haven’t showed up thus far
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:06 pm
Marvin and the bench has been big tonight. Teague has to continue to attack the basket and Marvin has to stay aggressive
Teabagger Johnson
December 16th, 2010
10:06 pm
JeJe, people that don’t just make stuff up and talk out of their ass . . .
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:07 pm
Teague Damien Marvin Horford ZaZa
I want to see that lineup
Forget Josh Smith. I am pretty sure Smoove’s first shot in the 4th will be a jumpshot (if he plays at all). I hope LD benches him and has him angry so he explodes tomorrow
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:08 pm
TeaBagger Johnson, good for you.
From what I saw, we missed a lot of defensive rebounds in the 3rd.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:08 pm
How many of you, before the game started, would gladly have said “I’ll take it” if you were told we’d be down only 6 after three quarters without Jamal and with Josh 0-8 from the field AND Horford only playing 14 minutes?
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:08 pm
Nonetheless, incredible what the Hawks have been able to do so far without Joe and Jamal, never in a million years would I have guessed it would be this close going into the 4th quarter after that loss against Detroit, but with Marvin, Zaza, and Teague showing up tonight, they’ve been able to keep it close.
Teabagger Johnson
December 16th, 2010
10:09 pm
We are losing because they’ve shot the ball better and turned it over a few less times . . .
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:09 pm
I can only imagine that a team with Joe Johnson makes the Hawks elite…the bench carried us the entire game and a no show from Horford and Josh on the road and we are only down 6 going into the 4th??? That’s crazy
But the 4th quarter we have fallen apart the last two games. Can we show some heart this game and finish out?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:09 pm
TEAGUE!
I feel he can consistently make that. Keep attacking
EmirS.
December 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
ONLY way we’ll have a chance to sneak out of here with a win is if Smoove AND Horford step up their game tonight.
Without our two primary scorers struggling, we should have a good 10+ lead in this game, the way everyones playing!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
Damnit we can’t afford to let this Turkish scrub beat us
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
Marvin and Teague are our players of the game
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
YES DUCK
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:10 pm
Marvin is superman tonight.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
Marvin Williams….wow…we will keep you after all
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
They are not calling any on the Celtics. Marvin was foul
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
I know da*n well Celtics fans arent crying about a foul call lol
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
Let’s go Teague
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
TEAGUE
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:11 pm
Teague is out of control
jtshoopsblog
December 16th, 2010
10:12 pm
The hawks have been playing well w/o johnson. In fact I will say that they have been playing much better. Jamal gone will be big. Hopefully the other Crawford will have a chance a play like his did in the pre-season.
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:12 pm
Lol, Teague is just throwing those up there
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:12 pm
Teague found his dog
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:12 pm
WTF is this offense?
You play great D and then do that?
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
hawks need to learn how to block out
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
dont tell me this is gonna be a classic case of the Hawks drawing the game withing 1 or 2 possessions…only to let the game get out of hand…..
gotta win this
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
within*
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
Love when Teague is agressive, but he gets quite careless
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
Ok, slow it down a little bit Teague..
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:13 pm
Teague needs to keep his dog on a leash
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:14 pm
jthoopsblog, give me a break
JC2 is only good for shooting. Nothing else
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:14 pm
The good and the bad by Teague. You have to live with it and let him play
Ron
December 16th, 2010
10:14 pm
Sometimes the Hawks can be really frustrating to watch due to the fact that they don’t utilize the strengths of their players. Why in the world does Al only have 6 shots? He’s the best offensive option on the team when Joe and Jamal are out, not to mention that Josh is having an awful scoring night. You would think that L.D. would be running more plays for Al, but instead it seems like the opposite. They have run almost no plays at all for Al. It’s insane. Are we ever going to get to a point where people don’t have to constantly complain about the fact that Al is underutilized!? For heavens sake, give the man the ball and run something for him.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:14 pm
We could’ve tied it up on those 2 plays.
Damnit
Down 4 now Pierce returns
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:15 pm
Five strips for Powell tonight. We got one back but that’s 4 TO’s and empty possessions. Hope that “locker room presence” is worth a lot.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:15 pm
J.J.M.,
we’re leading in the boards battle so apparently we are not having trouble blocking out. LOL
I.MUS WRITE
December 16th, 2010
10:15 pm
Now thats the Teague we all know…….2 bad decisions on the break and a tie up…..Com’n Son
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:15 pm
@ Ron
Horford has been stinking it up…that’s why he’s on the bench along with Josh Smith
terrible games by both of them
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
The hawks are actually playing with too much urgency. They are trying to do too much.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
Ron,
Were you watching the game? KG is eating Horford alive.
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
If Al get find his rhythm while we continue to get above average PG play, we may steal one tonight.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
Game over
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
blocking out in key parts of the game…anybody can see them easy put backs by the celtics
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:16 pm
Zaza can’t help for ish.
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
God I hate the Celtics PA announcer
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
Those screens are killing us on defense
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
STOP LETTING THIS SCRUB SCORE
GOOD GOD
Blast
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
The end of the end.
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
It’s time for Horford to play center…
I.MUS WRITE
December 16th, 2010
10:17 pm
ERDEN ? WTH is this he is eating ZAZA’s lunch…..
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:18 pm
Well there’s that career game for the Celtics someone was talking about
This guy is their 6th best Big
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:19 pm
Teague needs to shoot that
He is too scared to shoot it
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:19 pm
Damien with the deadly pump fakes…
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:19 pm
WTF is with these missed FTs/
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:19 pm
miss free throw….
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:19 pm
We still have a shot – Teague 5 TO’s, Bibby 0 TO’s – Ok LD, I understand your “point”!
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
how is that a foul
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
WTF he blocked that
I.MUS WRITE
December 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
If we could get close to this type of production from marvin on a nightly basis this team would be dangerous…..
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
We still got a chance – Josh has 1 pt. – where’s the team captains at tonight!
northcyde
December 16th, 2010
10:20 pm
Who will Drew select to close out this game?
Marvin, Teague, and Zaza deserve to be in there at the end.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:21 pm
Well, count this along with the MIA and SAS games as one we should’ve won. God Damnit
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:21 pm
thats game
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:21 pm
Just take Josh Smith out
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:21 pm
Our starters played pi$$ poor tonight…
{MAC-Town Georgia 478}
December 16th, 2010
10:21 pm
……..tired of seeing the Hawks faltering in these 4th faltering in these 4th quarters.
They start looking like a BAD high school team….seriously..
I.MUS WRITE
December 16th, 2010
10:22 pm
Okay good to see Bibby in atleast I know he will take the shot.Teague is hesitating on the open shots…..DAM
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:22 pm
just take the starters out please…this game is over
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:22 pm
Northcyde – You were so right that if Marvin gets 20+ we have a chance. Wrong about Al and Josh needing 20+ though. And I think you were wrong about 1st 1 to 85 winning. Could get to 100
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:22 pm
these sub patterns smdh
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:22 pm
Now do ya’ll understand why TNT clowns the Hawks they ALWAYS find ways to lose these games
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:23 pm
That 4th Quarter…that’s when you need a Joe Johnson or Jamal Crawford…
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:24 pm
I like the team we have on the floor right now. I still say we can come back. And JT is hesitating because he knows he’s not the man, and will get reamed out for missing or shot selection if he misses. The dude’s got a shot.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:25 pm
Why do we NEVER beat teams coming off b2bs? Besides Memphis
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:26 pm
Josh gets got
EmirS.
December 16th, 2010
10:26 pm
Sigh.
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:26 pm
Marvin almost got that rebound over three celtics
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:27 pm
Marvin Williams that is what we are talking about
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:27 pm
If Teague took some of those jumpers that you guys are claiming he’s hesitating to take…
You guys would jump on him for taking and missing them.
You know what the results gonna be if he takes those jumpers.
People are on here bashing Josh for taking jumpers…
But are bashing Teague for not taking them?
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:28 pm
Marv Albert cant say Horfords name
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:28 pm
Why does the opposing team always have open shots? Every game
Defense has just been garbage this half
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:28 pm
We still got a chance – good shot Al!!!!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:29 pm
The Celtics are supposed to be TIRED
ATL FAN
December 16th, 2010
10:29 pm
Not only do they have open shots, but the Celtics are making all of them
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:29 pm
Teague’s gotta add more to his arsenal…
He can’t just rely on that floater in the lane.
He’s gotta work on his mid-range.
J.J.M.
December 16th, 2010
10:29 pm
lol just leaving them wide open
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
Where did Davis get this jumpshot!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK TO STOP LEAVING PLAYERS OPEN FOR SHOTS??????????????????????????????/
WHY IS EVERY SHOT UNCONTESTED
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
Thats it
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
JeJe, serious question. Did you honestly expect the Hawks to beat the C’s? Minus Joe and Jamal?
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
Say Goodnight Gracie.
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:30 pm
Well they played hard but only one starter showed up and LD had some questionable lineups out there
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
Ok now it’s over
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
Davis always hits these uncontested shots + against us
STOP LEAVING PLAYERS OPEN
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
LD gets an F for this game.
Josh gets an F for this game
Hawks vs Celtics
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
so Josh and Al getting out played by … Marvin???? I mean really? Even Zaza has better numbers!
N.D.T.K.A.
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
Surprise,Marvin putting in work tonight. KG got in Al Horford’s head in the third quarter. Josh had a bad night.
It is amazing how the TNT commentators notice Rondo and Shaq are out for Boston, but don’t hardly mention that our #1 guy in Joe and SMOY for us J. Crawford aren’t playing. Amazing!
LionHearted
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
How is Marvin gonna outshine all the otha starters?
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:31 pm
cp – Has to do with his inflexible rotations regarding fouls.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:32 pm
1) How the hell did Boston make all those shots in the 3rd?
2) Why is every player uncontested on every shot?
DAMNIT
Jae Evolution
December 16th, 2010
10:32 pm
A positive from this game is that Marvin and Teague played absolutely GREAT, who would’ve thought Marvin would show up but Al and Josh wouldn’t.
It almost makes me want to laugh how these three can never play great on the same night.
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
10:32 pm
Well, Marvin showed up. Good for him. Teague had a decent showing. Too bad Smoove was having an off night (to put it lightly) on the offensive end.
YoDaddy
December 16th, 2010
10:32 pm
The defense in the 4th was unacceptable but that’s been the story the past 3 games.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:34 pm
Does it take 2 top players on your team being out for Marvin to play like this?
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:35 pm
Man, Marvin Williams, if you could ever get consistent and play with the stones you played with tonight every night…
You’d be decent.
But you can’t play that “now you see it…now you don’t…” bullstuff…
J from the A
December 16th, 2010
10:35 pm
I wouldn’t go so far as to give Josh an ‘F’ though. When matched up w/ Pierce, he did a pretty solid job shutting him down. (Almost all of Pierce’s FG occurred when someone other Josh was guarding him.)
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:35 pm
BOX OUT
GOD DAMN
EmirS.
December 16th, 2010
10:36 pm
Well,
Good night guys. Really disappointed and frustrated. You guys can claim after this game, that folks are stepping up. But we all know its a fluke. Marvin wont play this well for weeks to come. Teague will be bashed for having 5 turnovers and he wont have this good of a game for a while either. It’s really plain and simple and quite clear now. We are nothing without our “core”. Igniting on all cylinders. We might win another 2 or 3 games against good teams beore JJ comes back, but we are trash without him. He knows that, Sund knows that, Hawks know that, and we know that. Time to look at this situation realistically. And stop trying to avoid it with side stats.
Also, dont dare any of you throw that “negative” and “glass half empty BS” at me. Open up your eyes.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:36 pm
We lose by 12 without Joe and Jamal and a bottom 5 game of Smoove’s career. Damnit.
Must win tomorrow
Melvin
December 16th, 2010
10:37 pm
Loadup the plane and get the hell out of Boston…
Samuel
December 16th, 2010
10:37 pm
Has Teague made a shot beyond 10 feet all year? He had a good little run there in the 2nd. We should have ridden him while it lasted. I still think J Crawford can help. He had some tough “in and out” misses tonight. Celtics look good.
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:37 pm
I think some of yall need to remember…
You’re playing the best team in the East.
Sautee
December 16th, 2010
10:38 pm
Haven’t seen both Josh and Al play this badly since the Orlando debacle.
Dang, that stunk. Props to the bench for keeping us in the game.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:39 pm
We need CONSISTENT efforts from Marvin, Teague, and ZaZa.
Eastern Conference sucks. We can get that #4 seed and maybe #3 if ORL keeps playing like garbage.
We gotta get healthy and start playing defense and BOXING out though
IDK wtf LD talks about in practice
HOLD A PLAYERS-ONLY MEETING TOMORROW OR RIGHT NOW
tom
December 16th, 2010
10:39 pm
man what a wasted effort by marvin and teague……this team is maddening
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:41 pm
I have been critical of Marvin but dude showed up tonight when we needed him.. Teague also came to play.. The whole bench played well besides Mo. The starters were terrible and LD had some bad subs. He came back with Bibby to early at one point and he brought Mo in although Damien had outplayed him. Josh Powell might have the worst hands I have ever seen. Zaza was better than he has been recently but his defense is still terrible. They played hard they just got beat by a better team. Nice to see them not quit when they got down. Josh Smith was brutal this game smh, Collins gave us nothing, Al didn’t do much and Bibby was ehhh
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
10:43 pm
That’s 3 out of 4 games lost… so much for not needing a 4-time All-Star.
Samuel
December 16th, 2010
10:45 pm
I think we make the playoffs by “default” this year. Thank God there are some “BAD” teams in the NBA.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
10:45 pm
Astro Joe, you really think that 4-time All Star would have made a difference in any of these games? Maybe they lose by 10 tonight instead of 12? With him or without him they still would have lost 3 of the last 4.
Joe Johnson = complete nonfactor.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:45 pm
This is another example of the TWO FOUL RULE NOT working.
HOW MANY TIMES THIS SEASON has a player on the team FOULED out?
I don’t know the number but less than 3 for sure.
THIS MEANS THAT HORF HAS NOT FOULED OUT MUCH IF AT ALL. I understand benching him so he could play the whole 2nd half, but taking out Damien with 2 fouls? Boston dominated the end of that 2nd quarter
STOP TAKING OUT PLAYERS IN FOUL TROUBLE AND LET THEM PLAY.
I’d rather see Damien foul out in 28 mpg rather than play 16 minutes
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:45 pm
Josh is not yet an elite player. He is a very good player who whines and cries when he faces elite competition many times – like Boston and the Magic in the playoffs last year. I wish he would be a little bit more like KG in his professionalism. And Al’s not quite there either as a warrior – but I love his game!
Marvin 26 pts. – Wow!
Teague – 18 Pts. on 8-11 shooting and 4boards, 3asst. and 3 steals. Yes, 4-6 TO’s, but I wish he could learn on the court. I like he and Bibby on the floor together sometimes.
The Celt’s professionalism and experience won out in the end. And to think they got Big Baby in the 2nd round. Just like SA got DeJuan Blair at the 46th pick or something. We’ve got to learn to do that.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
10:45 pm
Anybody notice when the Hawks get hit in the mouth?
They fold up like a Lawn Chair?
Josh 0-8 WOW!
Josh bricked those two threes to start the game and disappeared like Marvin usually does. Then, when he did go inside he put up some wild shots near the rim and screamed for a foul!
INSIDE Peanut Butter – OUTSIDE Jelly – Josh! He lost that confidence and didn’t do the other things he normally do: like block some shots, rebound and assits his mates. I didn’t hear Al’s name a lot either, did he even show up in the paint to push Big-Baby away from the rims?
I was multi-tasking in the 2nd Half – what happened?
Them Celtics went in the locker room, sniffed some ammonia, re-grouped and came back to put my Hawks away.
What did we do in our locker room, because we were only down one point?
Josh was prolly in there pouting and complaining about he wasn’t getting any fouls called. He did NOT bring his “A” Game nor his “D” Game either.
What did my fellow bloggers see?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:46 pm
When is the last time this team won a game on National TV in the regular season? Seems like almost a year
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
10:46 pm
I said before the game that I would be pleasantly surprised if the Hawks lost by less than 25. They lost by 12, so I am pleasantly surprised.
Let’s face it — Kenny and Chuck are right. Even with Joe and Jamal, the chances the Hawks go into Boston and win are slim to none. The Hawks are just not that caliber of a team, plain and simple.
Thanks for showing up, Marvin and Teague. Keep doing that for the rest of the season, and the Hawks will win 50 games again.
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:46 pm
Say what you want about Rondo and Shaq being out – We still got beat by 3 future HOF’s.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
10:47 pm
I just don’t want to hear/read about any moral f’ing victories. If the team hadn’t already totally quit on three games this year (Boston, Bucks, Pistons), then maybe it would be justified. But, don’t go lose to the Pistons because of a half assed effort and expect to be patted on the back just because you didn’t get killed by the Celtics.
Celtics were toying with the Hawks the entire night anyways. Nothing to hang your hats on here, guys. Just hope they don’t lose tomorrow.
darrell starks
December 16th, 2010
10:48 pm
Marvin look so good maybe warrior’s will give us monta for marvin lol!!!!!!!!
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
SteveW
December 16th, 2010
10:48 pm
DrmaryB and Najeh – Co-sign to both.
And as I said, with Wilkens, I like our bench. JT, Mo’, Powell, Wilkens, ZaZa are all pretty good bench guys. Not to mention Jamal when he’s healthy.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
10:49 pm
The only thing holding Marvin back is the hawks…if you gave Marvin Joe’s shot attempts, he would be a lot more productive than joe..we drafted him #2 but decided Joe was the man….Marvin is easily a top 5 sf in the NBA….
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:49 pm
I really think Damien needs more minutes. Mo should not be playing at all at this point.
Those 2 Reggie Miller pumpfakes Damien did were damn impressive and his defense was solid
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
10:50 pm
Section 303, I guess when a guy gets surgery, I figure that he is hurt. I guess I assume that the injury didn’t happen instantaneously… he wasn;t healthy one day and had a “loose body” the next. And lastly, I don’t think coaches would send him to the All-Star game if he were a non-factor whom they don’t scheme to shut down during every contest against the Hawks. Yeah, I think we’re FAR better with Joe than without him (a healthy Joe that is). Funny how Roy gets a pass for being hurt in Portland while some refuse to link Joe’s inability to hit open jumpers to his recent surgery. Whatever.
darrell starks
December 16th, 2010
10:50 pm
Marvin is still young at 24, i just think he need a fresh starte with a team like the warrior’s who is desperate for a SMALL FORWARD.
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
10:51 pm
Smoove was not bad on D. He was nightmarishly bad on O. I actually felt like he was playing a little scared of KG.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:53 pm
We gave up 14 points to Erden and Harangody. Who the hell are these guys?
18 points for Big Baby?
NO player on this team finished with over 3 personal fouls!!!
No one came CLOSE to fouling out. This means that at the end of the 2nd qtr, we should’ve had DAMIEN and MARVIN in there, not clueless JC2
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
10:53 pm
My only knock on Drew…
Mo Evans and Damien Wilkins are the same damn players. But, Damien Wilkins defense is better than Mo Evans.
I understand we don’t have anybody behind Marvin on the wing, but any minutes Mo Evans clocks are a waste of minutes. He doesn’t give you much offensively, and defensively, he’s overrated. I know people were whining on this blog tonight about JC2’s mistakes, but, without much PT, he’s gonna continue to make those mistakes. But, if you groom the kid and get him touched up before playoff time, you’d have another solid option to fall back on off the bench.
I’d much rather see us groom Teague and JC2 and get them polished so we have more of an arsenal when the games really count as opposed to playing bums like Mo Evans throughout the season. You know what you’ll get from Mo throughout the season and at the end of the season when it counts. There really isn’t much room for improvement with this guy. You plug JC2 in, because his ceiling is much higher.
I know JC2 can’t back up Marvin. But, J.Smith has shown this season (not tonight – but for most of this season) that he can spot Marvin minutes at the 3. Give JC2 more court time. JC2 > > > > > Mo Evans.
And, I hope this game showed Drew that Teague needs minutes to polish his game. I also hope it showed him that some of these guys can contribute if we’re not always defering to JJ and Jamal. Guys like Teague and Marvin defer to JJ and Jamal too damn much, and they don’t go as hard when they’re in the game. Work to get that chemistry better when JJ and Jamal return.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
10:53 pm
Section 303!
Man, YOU still bashing Joe? Man you need a SHRINK for real, Bruh. Joe didn’t play tonight and you blaming him for a LOSS tonight, Joe is in Atlanta, GA tonight and you gonna’ twist your lips just to say if he did play we would have still lost, after we swept Boston last year?
Are YOU effin’ kidding me? Man, just go away and log off that computer until Joe returns so you at least type in reality. Get over it – man!
Geez!
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
10:54 pm
It was not a bad pick,
Are you Marvin’s mama?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:54 pm
We have too many damn 6″5 players on this team. Just get rid of Mo already.
Offer Marvin and Bibby for Monta Ellis or Mo Williams + X. We need consistency at PG.
Thankfully, Marvin usually plays well vs the Bobcats although I don’t think any of his buds are on that team anymore
northcyde
December 16th, 2010
10:55 pm
@ SteveW
I said that Marvin would have to take 10+ shots and that he would at least get 14 pts. LOL . . no way did I see him going for 26 pts and 5 rebs.
I said that it was more important for Smith and Horford to get 10+ rebounds, than 20+ points. They got neither for the 2nd time in a row vs Boston.
And I said the first team to 85 will win. Boston was the first team to 85 . . and they won.
And by the way, we’re now 1 – 5 when Smith gets 4 rebounds or less. We can’t have him be a non-factor on the boards.
With Marvin and Teague having games like they had, we almost have to consider this a blown opportunity. Those 2 guys may never play that well again. So when they do, we need to make their performances count.
I don’t think it was a coincidence that Teague had a good game with the absence of Crawford. He got to dictate the offense with Jamal gone, and looked more for his offense.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
10:56 pm
“The only thing holding Marvin back is the hawks…if you gave Marvin Joe’s shot attempts, he would be a lot more productive than joe..we drafted him #2 but decided Joe was the man….Marvin is easily a top 5 sf in the NBA….”
Yeah, Marvin is top 5 SF in the WNBA!
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:56 pm
“Marvin is easily a top 5 sf in the NBA….”
LBJ
Carmelo
Durant
C.Butler
G. Wallace
and that’s leaving out like 20 others
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
10:56 pm
Je-Je, Marvin broke a sweat tonight, maybe one of our remaining captains who took the night off should be expected to play well tomorrow.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
10:56 pm
Najeh, I have to disagree. Josh was pretty much awful the entire night. There were at least two instances where he let himself get lost on screens and Ray Allen knocked down 3’s because of it. Josh just played lazy and spent most of the time whinning to the refs.
Outside of a couple of nice passes early, he was a waste. Happens too often to that guy. He needs to get his head on straight. Too much talent. He’s better than that.
darrell starks
December 16th, 2010
10:57 pm
MARVIN, JAMAL, TEAGUE AND 1ST FOR BIEDRINS, ELLIS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
cp
December 16th, 2010
10:57 pm
The Celts were not toying with the Hawks.
JSS
December 16th, 2010
10:57 pm
@ Astro Joe…
Wasn’t Dr. Andrews saying this (the Johnson elbow) has been a long term thing?
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
10:57 pm
Astro, make all the excuses for him you want. Joe Johnson would not have won any of these games for the Hawks. That’s why he is a nonfactor. Lose with him. Lose without him.
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:58 pm
We let Erden go 5-6
Pathetic
Oldatl
December 16th, 2010
10:58 pm
We need better players. How long will the Hawks go on without a solid center and have over 4 or more players who play the same position. Every other team are upgrading except us.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
10:59 pm
“The only thing holding Marvin back is the hawks…if you gave Marvin Joe’s shot attempts, he would be a lot more productive than joe..we drafted him #2 but decided Joe was the man….Marvin is easily a top 5 sf in the NBA….”
Is there a Dept. of Unintentional Comedy?
JeJe
December 16th, 2010
10:59 pm
Section 303
“Astro, make all the excuses for him you want. Joe Johnson would not have won any of these games for the Hawks. That’s why he is a nonfactor. Lose with him. Lose without him.”
Are you crazy?? You’d rather see JC2/Mo out there than Joe?
Quit hating on the guy. So he is not as good as Kobe or Wade. He’s still a top 3-4 SG when healthy. Maybe in a system like LD’s where the offense is more facilitated he can actually show up in the playoffs
Wabe
December 16th, 2010
11:00 pm
Section303,
Not moral victories. But, realistically, do you expect the Hawks to win a game @ Boston – whose currently playing some of the best basketball in the league – minus your top 2 scorers?
I’m not happy they loss, but I’m not as distraught as some of the others here seem to be.
Mainly because, I never expected them to win tonight.
I don’t care if Boston is minus Rondo and they’re coming off a back to back.
They’re capable of winning minus Rondo because unlike the Hawks, they’ve got real depth. They still had the Big 3 healthy and good to go.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:01 pm
JeJe, my point is this: name me the game we would have won had Joe played. I’ll wait for your answer.
darrell starks
December 16th, 2010
11:01 pm
STARTE MONTA, JOE, JOSH, HORFORD, BIEDRINS
BENCH BIBBY, MOE, DAMIEN, POWELL, ZAZA
RESERVE JC2, COLLINS
GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:02 pm
In fairness, Marvin did play a very good game tonight. Props to him.
But like I said the last time he played a good game, I’m over him. I’m done getting suckered in by his so-called potential. Let’s see him play like this for five games in a row, and maybe I’ll pay attention. Until then no.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:03 pm
Wabe, I didn’t think they would win, either. I just don’t want to hear them patting themselves on the back for keeping the game kind of close. They always do that after games like tonight and then go onto the next game and get killed. I’m predicting a loss tomorrow.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:05 pm
JeJe
I told you, If the Hawks would go to Marvin and run plays for marvin this is what you would get every night..His shot is sweet, he has handles,just the total package….LBJ,Mello,Durant are all better but if Marvin was given an oppurtunity to score , he would produce and probaly be the 4th best sf..i would take Marvin over butler because he is bigger and his shot is better..and unlike Joe, it does not take Marvin 25 shots to get 26 points..Nice stroke, big athletic, plays tough d…..etc..etc..
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:08 pm
Rick Sund, your team wheels are falling off. This is 85% the “Genius” Billy Knighs’s team! You better shop Marvin,Bibby and Josh if you got backbone…The Hawks really do miss Joe Johnson but he is not Kobe, he is not going to save this team as it slides backwards to mediocrity fast! 8th seed? Maybe? You can’t continue to put undersized Al, Josh”I am the next Magic Johnson, but don’t know how to shoot a jumpshot and the “invisible man” Williams who just shot his entire load for the next 12 to 15 games on the floor tonight and expect wins against the elites.These three are now going to be called the 3 stooges…Your front line looks like “D” league material out there…..WOW……Rick your new name will be Billy knight JR real soon.. Keep up the lousy work. Your name is changing on the blogs real soon….
Astro Joe
December 16th, 2010
11:10 pm
JSS, Joe said that he has had problems with his elbow “on and off” since last year. It is the kind of injury (reportedly) that guys can “deal with” until the pain is too severe and it must be addressed. I’ve not read any reports about the severity of the injury from the doctor (that would actually be against federal law to share Joe’s medical info). But if it was anything like what pitchers endure, he probably was hurting for a while.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:10 pm
It was not a bad pick, I’m just going to assume that you are going out of your way to raze the people who read/post on here. There is no way you belive anything you just wrote.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:10 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
If the hawks run plays for Marvin, tonights game is an example of what his numbers would look like…Just face it this Joe Johnson’s team..not Marvin…
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:11 pm
Astro, good. I hope it hurt him badly.
Rev in Tampa
December 16th, 2010
11:11 pm
I like Coach Drew. He is doing a fine job as a rookie head coach, but I would like him to take a crash coarse on coaching the last five minutes of a game.
I also felt like he needed to have an explosion toward the refs tonight. If he’s not going to let Josh, etc. mouth off to refs then he has to do it. If he is not going to call out the refs, then Josh, Bibby, etc. will feel like they need to.
cp
December 16th, 2010
11:11 pm
Wabe I agree with you about Mo. I have been complaining about him for a while now.I said blogs back that Damien and JC2 should play ahead of him. Put Mo in a suit. The guys on the bench looked better without Jamal especially Teague.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:14 pm
Ref’s cant help Josh considerable lack of offensive skills!! He never learned them and it is to late for him.He’s already wired the way he is. Just a dunker tha’ts it…
Elliot
December 16th, 2010
11:14 pm
Larry Drew is an absolute disgrace as a coach and is in no position to coach a professional basketball team. I have played in and watched basketball for many, many year, and watched many, many different teams, and I can tell you that L.D. looks lost. He is doing some of the worst coaching I have ever seen at the pro level. So many things are wrong with what he does that I could write a novel on it. The Hawks are not going to improve and reach their true potential with him as the head coach. This team desperately needs a change, and the main change that is needed is in the coaching staff. Drew needs to go. He clearly wasn’t ready for this job. For the personnel that the team has on the floor, this team is definitely underachieving, and although the players are not without fault, the majority of the blame goes on the coach in this case, without a doubt.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:14 pm
Rev, I think there is truth to what you’re saying. Refs were sticking it to the Hawks most of the night. I thought Josh drew a charge on Pierce that wasn’t called. Plus, the time he attacked the hoop, got fouled twice, and still no call. Hawks get nothing from officials. That will never change.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:15 pm
Section 303
Wow…Im talking about a guy who was considered for the # 1 pick..im as serious as i can be….but i have never seen a guy drafted this high and never really given a chance to shine..He has a nice stroke and he is athletic..the hawks did Acie Law the same way but he went 12th….Whats the point of being the #2 pick in the draft and standing in a corner wacthing joe Max dribble for 19 seconds in one spot…it seems like people on this blog would rather blame marvin instead of blaming Joe Max…
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:15 pm
Section 303, seriously, it’s time to get over it dude. It’s been seven months since he made that comment. At this point, for you to be p-ssed at Joe over that — especially when nearly every other pro athlete feels the exact same way and are just smart enough not to say it — is kind of pathetic. Whether you like him or not, in all likelihood he’s going to be here for the next six years. I have a hard time seeing how you can continue to be a fan of this team and hate its franchise player that much at the same time. You’re going to drive yourself insane. For your own sanity’s sake, learn to forgive him or find a new team.
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:19 pm
@NORTHCYDE
“don’t think it was a coincidence that Teague had a good game with the absence of Crawford. He got to dictate the offense with Jamal gone, and looked more for his offense.”
I agree 100%
We are going nowhere with Bibby as the PG and Jamal dominating the ball…
They need to either make teague the starter or trade Jamal.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:19 pm
Only the Hawks would hire the assistant coach who worked for the Head coach who was let go last season after his team was dismantle in the 2nd round of the playoffs. Rick Sund= Billy Knight Jr..
drmaryb (*_*)
December 16th, 2010
11:19 pm
Toys R Us!
Man, that 1st half, the Celtics was just playing with us. They came out and measured to see how hard they would have to work before putting us away.
That’s what professional teams do. They do only what they have to, to win.
They don’t waste energy in a 82 Game season. There was NEVER a doubt that they would win this game from their perspective.
We got played!
But, I did see some good things and bad things tonight. Our Captains never showed up to play though. Kudos to the bench.
Coach Drew nor Phil Jackson would win with all these scrubs on this team!
See Sund!
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:21 pm
“i have never seen a guy drafted this high and never really given a chance to shine.”
Marvin has started 312 games in his career. How is that ANYTHING like what the Hawks did to Acie Law and are doing to Jeff Teague? The fact that he has started that many games, played over 30 minutes per game in every season since his rookie year, and STILL can’t find a way to contribute consistently just tells me that he is one dimensional. Either he is scoring or he is a complete liability, and more often than not he is a liability.
Yeah, he had a nice game tonight. But good players, and especially good players who are picked high in the lottery, find a way to impact the game in ways beyond scoring. For crying out loud, Smoove wasn’t even a lottery pick and he finds a way to impact the game positively in multiple ways. So does Joe, and so does Horford. At this point I think most of us are over the fact that he was picked #2. All we ask is that he do the little things — play solid D, knock down open shots when he gets them, don’t turn the ball over, crash the boards (especially the offensive boards), etc. None of that has anything to do with his involvement in the offense.
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:23 pm
Chris Paul and Darren Williams are far superior players then Marvin and should have be drafted by the Hawks at the time knowing we needed a legit point guard since Mookie Blaylock retired!! For the next ten years the Hawks could have been contenders instead of pretenders….
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:25 pm
And the idea that Marvin is being held back by Iso-Joe doesn’t hold water either. For one thing, Iso-Joe didn’t stop Smoove and Al from developing into All-Star caliber players. And also, the Hawks don’t run an isolation offense anymore. If Iso-Joe was a valid excuse the last few years, it damn sure isn’t this year.
Steve W
December 16th, 2010
11:26 pm
drmaryb,
Please do not ever compare Coach Drew to Phil Jackson or any other Hall-of-Fame level coach. If Mike Woodson, with his very limited philosophy was able to get the Hawks to win 53 games, then it’s almost a guarantee that Phil Jackson would have the Hawks as a top-5 team every year. They’d be almost guaranteed at least 50 wins each season, even with injuries. The players are not perfect, but this team is loaded with talent. Coach Drew is a bad coach, plain and simple. He has no idea how to use his players effectively. It’s amazing how much better players look when they get the right coach and play to their strengths. You’d be surprised.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:27 pm
najeh, josh is a coach killer.
the guy aint a great defender.
great defenders deny the ball.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:29 pm
Najeh Davenpoop
No way I agree with
“For crying out loud, Smoove wasn’t even a lottery pick and he finds a way to impact the game positively in multiple ways. So does Joe, and so does Horford.”
If Al is not hitting jumpers he does not help you really at all, not really a great rebounder..I never really seen Joe Max shut down a good sg ..I must be wacthing the wrong game, because i clearly see Marvin as our best on the ball defender on the team, and i clearly have seen Marvin standing in the same corner for the first 5 years of his career due to Woodys iso Joe offense…Maybe its time for a trade..i just hate seeing a talented player going to waste like he is in Atl…He averages like 7 shots a game..this is Joe Max team
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:29 pm
josh lets everything come in and tries to block it.
how about off the ball defense?
how about trying to deny the ball into the post?
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:31 pm
PF 24mil 9pts and 11rbs….I would atleast expect a decent defensive effort. I never question the defensive effort Marvin gives. I don’t care about the 26pts, he is a 7mil players and he will have some of these nights. My Allstar center and my 12mil power forward didn’t even give a solid defensive effort…THAT IS WHY WE LOST!!!!!
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:32 pm
It was not a bad pick
Is Marvin your boy or somethin? You sure like kissin his kaboose..He gonna hook you up with floor seats?
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:34 pm
najeeh,
smoove could care less about playing off the ball defense.
he wants to block shots.
if you really want to watch someone that denys the ball go back and watch what rodman did.
he fronted players. then he was quick enough.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:35 pm
“If Al is not hitting jumpers he does not help you really at all, not really a great rebounder..I never really seen Joe Max shut down a good sg ..I must be wacthing the wrong game”
Wow. Yeah, you are watching the wrong game. Maybe you are talking about Al Harrington and Joe Smith.
O'Brien
December 16th, 2010
11:36 pm
Good game from Marvin tonight. I just wish we could get this from him more often (like in the Detroit game).
Teague played well. But I agree with AJ’s point on the other blog. teague played well because there was no JJ and no Jamal, and Teague got to play lead guard.
Losing by 12 on the road to the C’s w/o JJ and Jamal is not bad. Unfortunately, a loss is a loss, and now we play in Charlotte tomorrow.
Hawks need to regroup.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:37 pm
our best player has zero right hand. plus he is out of shape.
then again he has zero game with his back to the basket.
Harpie
December 16th, 2010
11:39 pm
Josh Smith is an idiot, and so is Drew!
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:40 pm
@Najeh Davenpoop
Every player can’t thrive in an ISO offense….so players need plays run for them. Ray Allen had opts in the 1st half. they did ask him to go one-on-one, they ran plays for him.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:41 pm
this entire team should be built around joe, crawford, marvin.
yeah marvin is a player.
josh will never be a player on this team.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:41 pm
It was not a bad pick, no way. You do not really think any of this. You’re a fraud. I’m calling it right now.
To humor you a bit…I’ll give you that Marvin was not the worst pick in the Billy Knight era. That honor is for Sheldon Williams (how is that piece of crap still in the league?). But, Marvin has been a starter for years. He has about 4-5 good games a year. No more.
Willing to bet that Marvin scores less than 10-pts tomorrow night.
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:42 pm
“josh is a coach killer.
the guy aint a great defender.
great defenders deny the ball.”
First of all, “coach killer” is one of the five dumbest phrases in sports. I remember when Jim Moron Sr. called Mike Vick a “coach killer” because Jim Moron Jr. was too stupid to figure out how to use him. It is a meaningless phrase meant to take the blame off an inadequate coach.
Secondly, Smoove does gamble more than he should, but it doesn’t change the fact that he has a huge defensive impact on the game, which is plainly visible in most games when he exits. He’s the guy who creates turnovers and fast break opportunities for this team, and he’s the guy who allows players like Bibby and Jamal to not be complete liabilities since they can funnel players in to him. I’m willing to live with some of his man to man defensive lapses as long as he continues to create the chaos he does in passing lanes and by altering shots (which he did several times in the first half today even as his shots weren’t falling).
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:43 pm
Charlotte owns the Hawks! Another loss coming. They will be 16 and 12 after tomorrow night! Go Rick Sund!! You da man!!
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:44 pm
@O’brien
Why doesn’t anyone acknowledge he was playing against Prince(Defensive stopper)…Prince only Had 7 of his 10pts against Marvin, if I am correct.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:45 pm
slimjr
no i dont know Marvin, but i know talent and he has plenty of it..but with Joe Max and Jamal, he will never get a chance to unleash the skills he has.The kid can score..if i was Drew,no way Josh and Al get more shots than Marvin..all he need is a couple of plays ran for him..and its on….It does not take Marvin a lot of shots to get his points…Damn, did any one watch the game tonight..I mean i should really seem smart right now…..26 pts 9-15…..
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:45 pm
“Every player can’t thrive in an ISO offense….so players need plays run for them. Ray Allen had opts in the 1st half. they did ask him to go one-on-one, they ran plays for him.”
Every player can’t thrive as a scorer in an ISO offense. But every player can play good defense, crash the boards, and knock down open shots in an iso offense. Marvin has never shown that he can do even that. That’s a much bigger knock on him than his lack of offensive development.
And anyway, this discussion is pointless. The Hawks rarely run iso offenses anymore anyway, even when Joe or Jamal is in the game. Maybe iso was an excuse in past years for Marvin. Not anymore.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:46 pm
i just dont get the love for josh?
he should be a garbarge guy.
a block out guy that defends the the goal and hits the offensive rebound.
instead of a guy that wants to hoist a three.
what if he turned into a high energy guy that attacked both boards?
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:46 pm
I think “It was not a bad pick” and Rod from College Park should have a fight. We should find a way to arrange this somehow. They are like the polar opposites of each other.
N.D.T.K.A.
December 16th, 2010
11:46 pm
Josh didn’t get many calls tonight and was a little uncomfortable tonight trying to find his offense from the perimeter. By the time Drew tried to move Josh to the post his head was out of the game and the C’s double teamed him.
Again, Horford was having a decent game until the third quarter when KG started to get in his head going at him on the offensive end.
If the Hawks would just learn to do the little things like rebound and defend could see a lot better results.
Maybe Drew is doing something Woodson would not do like develop the rest of the team including the bench.
Section 303
December 16th, 2010
11:46 pm
Najeh, the finding a new team thing sounds tempting, but I’ve been around too long. I love the Hawks. I hate Joe Johnson. I don’t/won’t forgive easily. Never have, never will.
Joe Johnson is just another dumb athlete. He won’t make me stop rooting for the Hawks.
But, I disagree…I do not think most athletes think what Joe was dumb enough to say. I’ve been around high level athletes most of my life. They are usually pretty appreciative to the people who show up for them. Joe just showed his true colors. That’s all.
I’m out. Off to bed. Hope some of you are actually going to the game tomorrow night. My buddy and I are hitting Taco Mac beforehand, if anyone wants to hang.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:50 pm
najeh,
i respect your opinion? just dont think josh can go to his right.
Dante Fitzgerald
December 16th, 2010
11:52 pm
It was not a bad pick – Calm down on the ellipsis.
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:54 pm
@Section 303…”He has about 4-5 good games a year.”
If that is the case, then the motion offense is working, because he has already had about 4-5 good offensive games this year.
I count the defensive games also(like Gay, Iggy, Grainger..etc) I don’t expect much more from a 7mil player
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:54 pm
@Najeh Davenpoop
Your right, Jim Moron Sr. was and is an idot!! PLAYOFFS<PLAYOFFS??
Najeh Davenpoop
December 16th, 2010
11:54 pm
“just dont think josh can go to his right.”
I agree with this and I’ve said it on many occasions, that Smoove needs to develop his right hand to become a better scoring threat. The encouraging thing is that he has added something to his game every offseason, so maybe sooner or later we will see this from him. But it’s a huge leap from saying “he can’t go to his right” to “he isn’t a good player”. He does enough things well that he is clearly valuable to this team, despite tonight’s disappearing act.
uga-brave
December 16th, 2010
11:55 pm
so how long?
can our poward forward not develop a right hand?
how long till he can develop a drop step.
watched guys like kevin machale, karl malone, all develop games with there backs to the basket.
It was not a bad pick
December 16th, 2010
11:57 pm
Section 303
Im serious dude, did you watch the game tonight? why would you think im just talking s%^^..Marvin has talent ..it is a reason why Marvin was almost took #1 in the ENTIRE draft..this guy is not as mud as you people say..We have bigger problems than sf..WE HAVE NO CENTER..AND WE JUST GAVE A GUY NAME JOE MAX 129 million who has no heart.joe is solid but no way is he a true all star.he just tkaes alot of shots and always have the ball so his sats look good..Center is the hawks biggest problem..And yes Marvin has been a starter for 5 years, but no way you can deny that he never gets any shots..i mean this guy was the #2 pick of the draft, but instead of seeing what he can do, he is paid to watch Joe and Jamal,(used to be Flip) go one on one..Drew offense is a bettter fit for Marvin, but you also have to remember He started off good but then he got hurt…And Josh is shooting more this year also…
slimjr
December 16th, 2010
11:58 pm
Josh Smith never learned the fundamentals of Basketball! He cant shoot,He cant dribble, He cant post up! He cant pass. He is what he is.A DUNKER!!!Bless is heart he wanst to play like Magic but he aint wired that way. Trade his butt ASAP…………………..
Rufus1
December 16th, 2010
11:58 pm
THE HAWKS NEED A REBOUNDER AND RIM PROTECTOR….Because josh will not consistantly get 10-12rbs. I would trade jamal for Priz
slimjr
December 17th, 2010
12:01 am
Marvin shot his entire load tonight. He’s done for the next 10-12 game maybe 15……..
uga-brave
December 17th, 2010
12:04 am
najeh,
he has not improved himself.
he can jump really high, with his left arm.
how about him dropping himself into the post?
how bout him playing with the back to the basket?
great fours, understand how to play with their back.
MsDee
December 17th, 2010
12:16 am
Not sure if you guys notice this but back when we played our 1st pre-season game this year, both Teague & Marvin had an EXCELLENT game amongst each other..both played really well w/o JJ nor Jamal cause that’s when Jamal set out most of the pre-season game due to the same injury, (BACK PAINS), and LD sat JJ most of that game as well SINCE IT WAS PRE-SEASON…I say all that to say, MAYBE, just MAYBE LD should allow Marvin to play along side Teague more often. As good as Jamal is, he is a ONE MAN SHOW too much for us and it handicaps players like Teague & Marvin!
O'Brien
December 17th, 2010
12:17 am
So Hawks select Pape Sy with the 53rd pick.
Boston selects Semih Erden with the 60th pick.
So far, who is the better pick?
ant banks
December 17th, 2010
12:19 am
mike woodson has got to be postin’ as ELLIOT. and MARVIN WILLIAMS has got to be postin’ as IT WASNT A BAD PICK.
there is no effin’ way you can say that marvin was a great pick. so you are sayin’ that if the hawks had a do over they would pick marvin every time? we coulda got that same performance if we had picked marvin 17th
ant banks
December 17th, 2010
12:20 am
prizbilla has missed a ton of games this year already and we have only played 25 games. lol
MsDee
December 17th, 2010
12:23 am
@Ron 10:14pm post
That’s why I have been requesting the likes of a PG like Nash..u wouldnt have to ask Nash to run a play for Al cause 99.9% of the plays WOULD BE RUN THRU AL CAUSE NASH IS A PLAY MAKER WHO GETS THE BALL INTO THE HANDS OF THE PLAYER WHO IS A TOP 3 OR 4 FG% IN THE LEAGUE RIGHT NOW!!! Bibby, u would think, would go thru Al more than he has but he doesn’t for some strange reason..and Teague, as good as he was tonight, could have gotten about 3 more assists tonight HAD HE THOUGHT TO GO THRU AL MORE!! MANN, if I was the PG out there, that’s all I would be doing is getting the HOT man the ball AT ALL TIMES!! Tonight, it was Marvin!! He couldnt miss almost!
Clyde
December 17th, 2010
12:36 am
The only positive is we didn’t get blown out by 20. With Woody coaching the game would have been over by the first quarter.
Elliot
December 17th, 2010
12:36 am
ant banks,
I’m not posting as Mike Woodson. LOL. Woodson was a decent coach for a while, but I really felt that he, too, was holding the team back. I was all for hiring a new coach at the end of last season, but Drew is definitely not the coach who should have been hired. Just because I don’t like Drew, doesn’t mean I liked Woodson. Woodson had several flaws as well, and placed the Hawks into some unfavorable situations on many occasions. I wanted him replaced, but not by someone who is even worse than he is.
Clyde
December 17th, 2010
12:39 am
O’brien you dam right. Everybody and they mama knew we needed bigs going into the draft but we drafted a sg and a sf. Pape Sy may not even play this year while Erden is filling in nicely.
drmaryb (*_*)
December 17th, 2010
12:47 am
HOF’rs -vs- Scrubs!
SteveW fixed his mouth to say this:
“drmaryb,
Please do not ever compare Coach Drew to Phil Jackson or any other Hall-of-Fame level coach. ”
First of All Sir:
Phil Jackson has NEVER coached a Scrub! Ever! He can drop to his Broke Hipped Knees and kiss MJ & Kobes pair of BALLS for each and every one of his 10 Rings that they gave him!
Like Barkley said, “YOU CAN NOT WIN w/o PLAYERS!
Phil has hand-picked TWO TEAMS to Coach: Bulls and Lakers!
You don’t coach HOF’rs and stacked benches:
You sit on your azz, cross your good leg over your bad leg and watch them demolish inferior talent!
Hell! You could clock out from your day job, show up at the Lake-Side Show, chat with Jerry Buss about what the team needs, smoke a fattie and WIN five Rings too!
Give Me a Break! Phil wouldn’t even bother to get on a plane to come here and coach an Atlanta Spirit – Hot Mess team like this!
MsDee
December 17th, 2010
12:49 am
@O’Brien,
Dont know, Pape Sy has yet the touch the court yet!!
YoDaddy
December 17th, 2010
8:47 am
@ Section 303
hholding grudges like a lil beyotch…he apologized…I mean what more do you need?
slimjr
December 17th, 2010
9:51 am
This Franchise has never won a conference FINALS!!!!! YA’LL HEAR ME!!!! 45+ yrs of garbage!!! I predict they will not win a conference final for the next 7 years at least…Get rid of JOSH,BIBBY AND MARVIN for some D league/ International players who have sound fundamentals and we may start to compete again.Rick Sund=Billy Knight Jr..
JSS
December 18th, 2010
8:54 am
@ Astro Joe…
The federal law is about disclosure when not authorized by the patient… Professional athletes routinely waive this, they just don’t disclose the course of medications or their underlying non-injury health histories…